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Jun 12, 2009 11:55 AM

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Dreamtheater2112 said:
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^The complaining people above me fail


you do the same thing for naruto every week...dun see how you can call out the bleach people for excessive bitching at legitimate crap =/



Me in naruto thread - bitching about legitimate things in the crappy chapters
People in bleach thread - "Omg she has a ranged bankai - BLEACH SUXXX"
Jun 12, 2009 12:55 PM

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Finally Stark, this is the only fight that I hope something good, because since the fight of Kenpachi, not seen anything good.
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Jun 12, 2009 12:58 PM
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maybe aizen is busy creating the kings dimension key . sly fox as he is ....also took the other two defected captains with him . will have to wait a few months to see that =[
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huh, didn't see that coming
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Fai said:
Dreamtheater2112 said:
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^The complaining people above me fail


you do the same thing for naruto every week...dun see how you can call out the bleach people for excessive bitching at legitimate crap =/



Me in naruto thread - bitching about legitimate things in the crappy chapters
People in bleach thread - "Omg she has a ranged bankai - BLEACH SUXXX"

I think most everyone agrees that Soifon's Bankai was pretty cool.

The complaints are about how it took 10 pages for literally one attack to happen, 2 of which were recap pages from last week's chapter (seriously, this is a manga and there's no need for a "previously on Bleach" type of thing).

And then for the "big twist" thing, maaaaaaaaaybe Kubo thinks he fooling someone by "killing-off-the-bad-guy-in-a-giant-flashy-iceplosion" and moving on to the next battle...but he's not. They're alive until bodies disintegrate.

Also, Naruto probably has more words per chapter than Bleach does per volume.
Jun 12, 2009 1:59 PM

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So Kyouraku is serious and Stark is more powerful.



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Jun 12, 2009 3:07 PM

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Anitnelav said:
Death the Kidd called.

He wants his guns back.

Stark looks fucking awesome though.
Jun 12, 2009 3:17 PM
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Nayah said:
CAN'T.TELL.WHAT.STARK'S.WEAPON.IS.

And Los Lobos?

That is all.


Well, Kubo's always had a varied taste in music.
Jun 12, 2009 3:40 PM

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Stark to Kyouraku:" I'll show you mine if you show me yours!"
LOL That's what I thought of when I was reading this chapter.

But, seriously, Stark looked freaking cool in this chapter, which (sort of) made up for the wasted 5-6 pages that showed Soi Fon's attack. And, no, I don't think Barragan's completely gone - the smoke is still there! The smoke! Everyone knows that you have to wait until it clears before you make any conclusions~
Jun 12, 2009 4:15 PM
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It's a-a-a-a-A-FREAKING-MISSILE!?!?

Aren't Halibel, Barragan, and Stark Vasto Lordes?

I don't see why Kubo is making Halibel and Barragan "die" when it's painfully obvious that they are going to come back and pull something that will completely pwn up Hitsugaya and Soi Fon. Why create suspense when he can just get it over with?
Jun 12, 2009 4:16 PM

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i like how he said "kick"

usually its something all drawn out, like "feed on the lives of dead fetuses" or something boring like "grrrgle glutoneria"
Jun 12, 2009 4:29 PM

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Kyouraku is still awesome (UKITAKE AND THE HAORI AND :D)

Stark is most definitely still badass. GUNS, PEOPLE, GUNS.

Soi Fon's bankai though, on the other hand, must kind of suck for her if she gets backlash from launching...that missile.
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Dude it is about fauking time someone got a gun... i mean COME ON... what could beat the missle of the previous chapter... but a gun?!... but ya... stark always did look like he was a "gun-ho" kinda guy...
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HE'S GOT GUNS.
and fancy long ones at that.
Jun 12, 2009 5:03 PM

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ChronosXIII said:
It's a-a-a-a-A-FREAKING-MISSILE!?!?

Aren't Halibel, Barragan, and Stark Vasto Lordes?

I don't see why Kubo is making Halibel and Barragan "die" when it's painfully obvious that they are going to come back and pull something that will completely pwn up Hitsugaya and Soi Fon. Why create suspense when he can just get it over with?
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No they're not.

Vasto Lorde is complete humanoid hollowification. So far Ichigo is the only one.
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Fai said:
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Death the Kidd called.


Originality called. He wants everyone to stop quoting some series "currently on the waves" as the forge and foundation of all what exists.


Awesome.

seiyu said:
I think most everyone agrees that Soifon's Bankai was pretty cool.


No.

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C. He is just using them to buy time until the vasto lordes show up. (Besides stark, who is actually one of the vl's?)


NO.

There's no way Aizen has any Vasto Lordes, You saw what Ichigo did to Makeupboy. No, no and no. He wasn't even trying. Not only that Ichigo came out of that fight without a single scratch on him. Ichigo was fucking with him.

You can't control a Vasto Lorde hence why Aizen created the Arrancar from the Hyokgouku in the first place, to prevent them from going Vasto Lorde. If you actually noticed, Makeupboy had a level upon his initial release. And it wasn't being a Vasto Lorde.

What Ichigo's power now is, being a Vasto Lorde is exactly what will be the downfall of Aizen. That is, if Ichigo can manage to control it.


...What? Ichigo got more than a scratch. He died. Sure, in his hollow form, he wasted Ulquiorra, but what does that have to do with a Vasto Lorde? Ichigo is not a Vasto Lorde. In fact, since we've never seen a Vasto Lorde, he may be many times more powerful than one while in his hollow form. Also, way back when Hitsugaya explained the Vasto Lorde and Adjuchas, it was strongly implied that Ulquiorra was previously a Vasto Lorde.

Onto the chapter:

Okay, certainly didn't expect Lillinet and Stark to combine. Despite the fact that so many shonen anime have already used fusion, that was pretty clever. The end result looks pretty cool.

Other than that...meh.

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Vasto Lorde is complete humanoid hollowification. So far Ichigo is the only one.


Vasto Lorde have nothing to do with humanoid hollowfication. They're the strongest form of Menos. And, seeing as Menos are made up of hundreds of hollows, Ichigo couldn't possibly be a Vasto Lorde.
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The release of Stark looks sexy. Other than that... the rest is a copypastah from another series.

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Jun 12, 2009 6:52 PM

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wow, last page looked cool! can't wait to see how their fight turns out.
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Fai said:
Anitnelav said:
Death the Kidd called.


Originality called. He wants everyone to stop quoting some series "currently on the waves" as the forge and foundation of all what exists.

Nayah said:
CAN'T.TELL.WHAT.STARK'S.WEAPON.IS.

And Los Lobos?

That is all.


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As for Nr2 and Nr3

Fai said:

No seriously, we will go to Shunsui fight or HM and after that we will get a reveal that both nr2 and nr3 are unhurt.




Overall great chapter.

Thankfully this blows the current crappiness of Naruto out of the water.



Pff, I can't believe it. Do you seriously mean it? Naruto is doing what some may think as obvious, but It needs to get done and show on tha manga.

Now Bleach every week just waste its pages on SJ, and there's no actual advance in the storyline.

Starks ressurection was nothing more than new outfit and two boomerangish guns. Nothing special, pretty plain release, seriosly...




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So... if Stark had sex with Lilinette, it would technically be masturbation? XD

hahahaah! probably :P
And I was thinking that Stark's hole is down there and he's not techincally a man but I saw the hole two chapters ago, not there :P

I don't think that second and third espada would be kicked down so easily. Come on, remember when Hitgugaya was babbling about how strong were those lame arrancars? These are Espadas, dammit!!!
And, That new form of Stark is not a resurrection, right??



Yes, it was a ressurection, I believe. He said something about arrancar dividing their power between their bodies and their swords, but he divided his body in two, didnt he?

He also let out one those effect release phrases as well...

So, yes, it seems to be a ressurection.




Jun 12, 2009 8:55 PM

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Soi Fon NUKE !!! >_> Soi Fon's bankai was a let-down

But on the other hand, Stark's released form is pretty much badass.
Maybe he can fire high level cero's with his gun simultaniously

Jun 12, 2009 9:16 PM
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FU-SION-HAAA


If they had actually done that, I would have laughed my ass off.

I feel that this chapter finally does a good job of making up for "THIS ISN'T HOW I WANTED TO WIN!!" by getting to a fight that I personally don't mind if they drag out, since Kyouraku's awesome.

As for the guns, I really don't see why almost everyone I know is bitchin' about them. I mean, god forbid everyone in Bleach doesn't fight with a god damn katana or some kind of bladed weapon.
Jun 12, 2009 11:39 PM

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I'm seeing some Zombie Powder look to Stark's character design.
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PsychFreak said:
So... if Stark had sex with Lilinette, it would technically be masturbation? XD

Anyways good chapter, Stark looks badass.


that means StarXLilinette won't work at all ...no babys lol
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seiyu said:
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I don't think Bleach is capable of "big twist"

Fixed.

No, your so called fix gives Kubo Tite too much credit.

I unfix your fix.

lolok. I failed.
Jun 13, 2009 4:00 AM

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State_Of_Despair said:
I'm seeing some Zombie Powder look to Stark's character design.


If his outfit can't be called homage to Gamma, then don't know what can be.

Seriously, its a cross between General Cross(DGM) and Gamma (Zombie Powder)

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Pff, I can't believe it. Do you seriously mean it? Naruto is doing what some may think as obvious, but It needs to get done and show on tha manga.


If you mean Kishi realizing his LSD dreams, then yes it was inevitable.

Through the latest "arc" Kishi did the MOST ridiculous things possible in the plot


Sorry, but Even if Kubo seriously tried to write bad story, he would not be able to beat the fail that is Naruto since the part II began.


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Now Bleach every week just waste its pages on SJ, and there's no actual advance in the storyline.

I seriously loved all Pendulum chapters and all "War" chapters. Character development for various characters, cool poses, etc. Its all what shonen needs.

Now after Nr1 Nr2 and Nr3 will beat their opponents, we will get some story I bet.

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Starks ressurection was nothing more than new outfit and two boomerangish guns. Nothing special, pretty plain release, seriously...

Pretty plain cool release serving as both homage to Kubo's previous manga and badassing Stark into character who brings guns into sword fight.

Loved most of recent releases. NR1 Nr2 Nr3 all have, probably the best releases ever, with Nr0 coming close in fourth place.
Jun 13, 2009 5:06 AM

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Was hoping Soi Fong had a hotter Bankai, since giving her a shoulder missile it’s like giving Komamura a skirt and I can only say that Oomaeda is a lucky bastard. Definitely, none of this three Espada will be defeated before the Vazado group come (probably Aizen was right when he said he didn’t even need to fight in order to the captains get defeated). I was looking for this battle, cause we never really saw Kyouraku true strength and I always knew he was a bad ass one (the quiet ones are always the scariest). I don’t see problems with guns (we just had a missile), depending on how Tite will develop this.
Jun 13, 2009 9:46 AM

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damn stark fight look intresting and no way in hell soifon beated number 2
Jun 13, 2009 9:46 AM

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Interesting release, cant wait to see what it does. Soi Font blew her load then she almost passed out. xD
Jun 13, 2009 9:51 AM

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stark is gonna get rape nothing new :[
Jun 13, 2009 11:22 AM

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Oh. Where did the vaizards go? Probably haven't seen them in 100 chapters plus.
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Fai said:
If you mean Kishi realizing his LSD dreams, then yes it was inevitable.

Through the latest "arc" Kishi did the MOST ridiculous things possible in the plot


Sorry, but Even if Kubo seriously tried to write bad story, he would not be able to beat the fail that is Naruto since the part II began.


Can't disagree with ya about Kishimoto. But about Kubo, only time will tell. Also, how should we avaliate him when Kubo doesn't write anything at all. Like that is kinda hard to ruin a plot or arc, dont you think so? Actually that may be a slighty harsh criticism, but there are too many chapters for all those fights, so I can't help with that emptiness feeling after reading a chap.


Fai said:

I seriously loved all Pendulum chapters and all "War" chapters. Character development for various characters, cool poses, etc. Its all what shonen needs.

Now after Nr1 Nr2 and Nr3 will beat their opponents, we will get some story I bet.


Pendulum was great, but it was mainly a story development part. It had those big illustrations too but they were far different from what we are seeing now. Kubo is re-using his artwork, abusing of one page illustrations that doesn't really add anything to story nor are that cool -some of them are, but most of 'em are not-.
He had the space/room to make all fights more interesting, and actually conclude some of them. Shunsui/Stark and Soi Fon/Barragan barely exchanged blows or tried some other attacks, the only exception was Hitsugay and Halibel. The more he prolong these battles like that, more prone to fail in making 'em feel cooler, he is.

Hope you're right, about the espadas deafeating the caps and the focus on story.

Fai said:

Pretty plain cool release serving as both homage to Kubo's previous manga and badassing Stark into character who brings guns into sword fight.

Loved most of recent releases. NR1 Nr2 Nr3 all have, probably the best releases ever, with Nr0 coming close in fourth place.


Gotta wait til next chap. Still don't like Stark's release. On the other hand Halibel's and Barragan's were indeed pretty cool.




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The first thing I thought when I saw what Stark was holding was boomerangs. -_- I didn't think they looked like guns at all until I saw the many posts about them being guns. =/

But anyway, Bleach has so little dialogue. Major flaw. (as well as the good guy constantly winning thing)

Was shocked into believing Kyoraku would go Bankai before even using his shikai. Maybe they'll actually confirm his manipulation over Wind power.
Jun 15, 2009 3:24 AM

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The wind power was already in the games. Why would Kubo go out of his way to invalidate them? Besides, it suits him.
Jun 15, 2009 7:18 AM

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The wind is kinda explict in his release command. Just like Ukitake - that controls water and lightning - he may control more than just wind, who knows, maybe earth too? @_@




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well, whatever, i just kinda started drooling when Shunsui mentioned his bankai


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Jun 15, 2009 2:54 PM

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Is Stark going to use Gun Kata like in Musashi?
Jun 15, 2009 6:02 PM

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I don't quite know what Stark's form is yet, but he looks kickass.
And it looks like old man Arrancar's down for the count.
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Probably. You need either fancy movements or an interesting environment to make a gun fight fun and the environment in Bleach is useless.
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Oh. Where did the vaizards go? Probably haven't seen them in 100 chapters plus.


i think the Captains are gonna their asses handed to them and then the vaizard are gonna come in and then the espada are gonna pull out a Ulquiorra transform and Aizen is gonna be like o.O and then the vizards are gonna pull out a Ichigo transformation and whoop ass then Aizen is gonna T.T and die.
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So...still not really clear what Soi Fon's ban kai is. If it only shoots rays, that's really disappointing.

ALSO,

Stark is a perverted loli-lover pedophile.
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I don't know why Bleach is just composed of wasted pages, and the end page is just a cliff-hanger and a revelation. That's it. As if I'M WAITING FOR JUST ONE PAGE (last page) IN ONE WEEK?! Lol! What a great way to just waste time.
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alex264 said:
Stark is awesome. But something still tells me that the vasto lordes haven't even showed up yet. Its sort of ridiculous that Halibel and the Old man would go down so easy. Big twist is coming soon.

Yeah i totally agree. They went down way to easy, unless they're still hanging on, with a comeback.
Stark looks so bad ass. I think those are guns.

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i wish kubo would show wtf aizen is thinking during this whole fight sequence. I mean two of his 3 most powerful subordinates were just killed and its like "oh, im too weak to get out of some fire". Obviously,

A. Aizen doesnt give a damn because they are all holding back their real strength

B. He is going to bust out and save them all at the last second. Just for dramatic effect.

C. He is just using them to buy time until the vasto lordes show up. (Besides stark, who is actually one of the vl's?)


yeah then there could be some actual dialouge or some insight. oh well kubo you've had my attention this long...
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Makes sense those two captains are made to fight together so only right it kinda worked out that way. Looks good.

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I dun think Soi Fon defeated the good ol' Barragan with that Rocket Blast!!! It was so lame to be considered deathly... In fact Soi Fon has a harder time trying to keep her guard than actually seeing if she was successful pulling out her move destroying that old man...

Meanwhile, Stark got interested on the power of the Captains and finally decided to fight seriously. And so Shunsui also takes the battle seriously now XD... I dunno what will happen from now on, but even if Stark is able to fire something out of the common stuff from Bleach Logic, I still found him interesting since he finally knows what to do and how to do it! And so Shunsui reveals what looks like his Shikai YAY! Finally an interesting battle will unfold!

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I really like Stark. He deserves more credit.
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Lilynette is so kawaii!
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The guns makes me think of death the kid
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This is a bankai! I wonder if Soi Fon won or not?
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