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ShootTheBullet said: Well, what I really mean was about trap thing, because I already had 2 trap characters as my favorite and it is ridiculous once you learned they are trap. Yeah it was never impressed me for just being a trap. One more thing we don't even know if Innovator is a trap or not, and they could be a new gender. As you can see Tieria has two voice male and female, and long hair and short hair which we have no idea or they never explained how he/she did that.Siva said: Trap is the most ridiculous thing in anime ever >_< Traps usually don't impress me just for being a trap but G00 makes it seem like there's a reason behind making them traps, so I like the Innovators so far. The doujin market also has its demand for traps. Wyvr said: How could you let your woman's treasure to be seen by the others than you, right?Exactly what i thought, although nobody noticed until you ;) |
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Siva said: Wyvr said: How could you let your woman's treasure to be seen by the others than you, right?Exactly what i thought, although nobody noticed until you ;) But does Setsuna care about Marina's "treasure"? He is Gundam after all XD darkxdestiny said: MapleRose said: Marina is still useless, still waiting for her to do something other than sit and cry and whisper "Setsuna". But I guess the situation isn't right for her to do anything right now. But she'd better eventually, or she'd totally fail as a character! I think it'll be a little more time before she starts taking action (but I don't know how "little" is time in this season. She's not Lacus Clyne who can recover from tragedies very quickly. Then again don't tell me she'll lead Katharon (noting her standing in front in the OP. Leaders are usually portrayed in front of all the people.) I doubt Marina will become the "leader" of Kataron, since she's stubborn not to fight. However, she might become a voice for Kataron/the oppressed or something. |
| Alright episode, not many development and a strange hit and run attack by an unknown MS (what the Hell, they try to call it a strategy? That's more like your average "ennemy of the week" I guess), but overall it's MUCH better than the first 5 or 6 episodes of the season. |
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| One thing most of you forgot is the Innovators can act on there own and don't follow Ribbons. He is just another Innovator. Anew is most likely an Innovator acting on her own either to spy on CB or just to follow in Aeolia's plan like Tieria has been. I'm hopping she confronts him soon. He really needs someone to talk to about the Innovators. 00's upgrade was nuts. Reminds me of the Gundam in the first episode of season one that saved him. The particles look like they effect people's mental state either amplifying their senses or causing them great pain. It looks like it just affects people that have been altered (ie. super soldiers and Innovators). This may end up being the one weapon that can bring down the Innovators. Now that Al's awake it looks like he's ready to rape someone lol. |
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DeathfireD said: tieria didn't know that he was an innovator. he just knew from the beginning that he is not the same as everyone on board. veda set everything up for tieria and therefore he had no clue about his real purpose. that's why he was so uptight and strict on following the computer because he's got nothing else. without the plan, the testtubers would feel left out and become somewhat useless. innovators does have superiority complex. in which any of them could just go off and do their own thing. they are the future of humans anyways. One thing most of you forgot is the Innovators can act on there own and don't follow Ribbons. He is just another Innovator. Anew is most likely an Innovator acting on her own either to spy on CB or just to follow in Aeolia's plan like Tieria has been. I'm hopping she confronts him soon. He really needs someone to talk to about the Innovators. 00's upgrade was nuts. Reminds me of the Gundam in the first episode of season one that saved him. The particles look like they effect people's mental state either amplifying their senses or causing them great pain. It looks like it just affects people that have been altered (ie. super soldiers and Innovators). This may end up being the one weapon that can bring down the Innovators. Now that Al's awake it looks like he's ready to rape someone lol. |
DeathfireD said: It is not just that Innovators can act on their own, everyone that involve in Aeolia's plan can act on their own or to say that they never have a leader to begin with.One thing most of you forgot is the Innovators can act on there own and don't follow Ribbons. He is just another Innovator. Anew is most likely an Innovator acting on her own either to spy on CB or just to follow in Aeolia's plan like Tieria has been. I'm hopping she confronts him soon. He really needs someone to talk to about the Innovators. DeathfireD said: Well, this season is all about 00 unit so you can expected something like that.00's upgrade was nuts. Reminds me of the Gundam in the first episode of season one that saved him. The particles look like they effect people's mental state either amplifying their senses or causing them great pain. It looks like it just affects people that have been altered (ie. super soldiers and Innovators). This may end up being the one weapon that can bring down the Innovators. |
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Frito said: tieria didn't know that he was an innovator. he just knew from the beginning that he is not the same as everyone on board. veda set everything up for tieria and therefore he had no clue about his real purpose. that's why he was so uptight and strict on following the computer because he's got nothing else. without the plan, the testtubers would feel left out and become somewhat useless. innovators does have superiority complex. in which any of them could just go off and do their own thing. they are the future of humans anyways. Well, you see, Tieria knew who he was and what his purpose on the team was. It was his whole motivation, feeling compelled to make sure that the plan(which he does not know) would come true. Trial system, big access level to Veda, bossy attitude - he knew exactly what his supposed purpose in team was. What tieria did not know is that there are others like him and that those others all have their own wishes and plans. Innovators, instead of following their own roles, all went down with their own free will. Innovators are like...big Shakespearean family, each doing whatever he wants, as long as the interests do not clash. Regene sticks around Ribbons, because he/she finds it interesting. If something goes against his/her goals, Regene would not hesitate to interfere. If Ribbons fails at something, Regene would not hesitate to make a snarky remark. Hence why Ribbons is significantly annoyed by him/her. No one is really in charge, its just that Ribbons is taking initiative. |
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Fai said: he knew his role, not his true nature. it was a big surprise when he finally realized why they were created. Frito said: tieria didn't know that he was an innovator. he just knew from the beginning that he is not the same as everyone on board. veda set everything up for tieria and therefore he had no clue about his real purpose. that's why he was so uptight and strict on following the computer because he's got nothing else. without the plan, the testtubers would feel left out and become somewhat useless. innovators does have superiority complex. in which any of them could just go off and do their own thing. they are the future of humans anyways. Well, you see, Tieria knew who he was and what his purpose on the team was. It was his whole motivation, feeling compelled to make sure that the plan(which he does not know) would come true. Trial system, big access level to Veda, bossy attitude - he knew exactly what his supposed purpose in team was. What tieria did not know is that there are others like him and that those others all have their own wishes and plans. Innovators, instead of following their own roles, all went down with their own free will. Innovators are like...big Shakespearean family, each doing whatever he wants, as long as the interests do not clash. Regene sticks around Ribbons, because he/she finds it interesting. If something goes against his/her goals, Regene would not hesitate to interfere. If Ribbons fails at something, Regene would not hesitate to make a snarky remark. Hence why Ribbons is significantly annoyed by him/her. No one is really in charge, its just that Ribbons is taking initiative. |
| Setsuna gets God suit. Allelujah gets badass split personality back + GN Archer Tieria and Lockon need upgrades. Also, anyone notice the minor changes made in the OP? |
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| im LOL'ing over the fact that saji may see the battlefield. and whooo lasse gets blown up in the previews. |
Frito said: Fai said: he knew his role, not his true nature. it was a big surprise when he finally realized why they were created. Frito said: tieria didn't know that he was an innovator. he just knew from the beginning that he is not the same as everyone on board. veda set everything up for tieria and therefore he had no clue about his real purpose. that's why he was so uptight and strict on following the computer because he's got nothing else. without the plan, the testtubers would feel left out and become somewhat useless. innovators does have superiority complex. in which any of them could just go off and do their own thing. they are the future of humans anyways. Well, you see, Tieria knew who he was and what his purpose on the team was. It was his whole motivation, feeling compelled to make sure that the plan(which he does not know) would come true. Trial system, big access level to Veda, bossy attitude - he knew exactly what his supposed purpose in team was. What tieria did not know is that there are others like him and that those others all have their own wishes and plans. Innovators, instead of following their own roles, all went down with their own free will. Innovators are like...big Shakespearean family, each doing whatever he wants, as long as the interests do not clash. Regene sticks around Ribbons, because he/she finds it interesting. If something goes against his/her goals, Regene would not hesitate to interfere. If Ribbons fails at something, Regene would not hesitate to make a snarky remark. Hence why Ribbons is significantly annoyed by him/her. No one is really in charge, its just that Ribbons is taking initiative. No it wasn't. He already knew he was a cyborg. Rewatch season 1. The term innovator is used now for any of the Cyborg/Humanoid people Aeolia made. So keeping that in mind Tieria may not have known he was an Innovator but he knew damn well he could do things normal humans could not thus a cyborg with a purpose. The whole part about there being more innovators and that each had a part in the master plan was what shocked him. Not that fact that he was one. |
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DeathfireD said: are you actually gonna argue that he is a cyborg? i said he knew what he was. but he doesn't know what the fuck he truly is. its like you are a orphan and you don't know your parents therefore you turn onto something that will give you fulfillment. tieria may have known that he is a tuber. but he was naive about his true nature. he didn't know that he was a toy to aeolia's plan and has a bigger part than he anticipated. again if you misread my context im gonna type it again. he is suprised that there are more people like him. he thought he was the only person to access veda therefore he cherished it. he knew he was different from the start but it doesn't mean he knew what the hell he really was.Frito said: Fai said: he knew his role, not his true nature. it was a big surprise when he finally realized why they were created. Frito said: tieria didn't know that he was an innovator. he just knew from the beginning that he is not the same as everyone on board. veda set everything up for tieria and therefore he had no clue about his real purpose. that's why he was so uptight and strict on following the computer because he's got nothing else. without the plan, the testtubers would feel left out and become somewhat useless. innovators does have superiority complex. in which any of them could just go off and do their own thing. they are the future of humans anyways. Well, you see, Tieria knew who he was and what his purpose on the team was. It was his whole motivation, feeling compelled to make sure that the plan(which he does not know) would come true. Trial system, big access level to Veda, bossy attitude - he knew exactly what his supposed purpose in team was. What tieria did not know is that there are others like him and that those others all have their own wishes and plans. Innovators, instead of following their own roles, all went down with their own free will. Innovators are like...big Shakespearean family, each doing whatever he wants, as long as the interests do not clash. Regene sticks around Ribbons, because he/she finds it interesting. If something goes against his/her goals, Regene would not hesitate to interfere. If Ribbons fails at something, Regene would not hesitate to make a snarky remark. Hence why Ribbons is significantly annoyed by him/her. No one is really in charge, its just that Ribbons is taking initiative. No it wasn't. He already knew he was a cyborg. Rewatch season 1. The term innovator is used now for any of the Cyborg/Humanoid people Aeolia made. So keeping that in mind Tieria may not have known he was an Innovator but he knew damn well he could do things normal humans could not thus a cyborg with a purpose. The whole part about there being more innovators and that each had a part in the master plan was what shocked him. Not that fact that he was one. |
best episode so far... nb. Liu Mei's a bi*ch i tell ya!!!!!  |
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| Setsuna got owned. The End. |
| i want to see the 00+O-RISER in battle now >_< oh oh.. halle is back time to see some insane killings :)(i consider him the good ali lol) marina:asadistan destroyed now i know how setsuna feels setsuna: now u know how i feel, come and pilot the O-RISER marina:ok, and btw i love you setsuna setsuna:(smiles)(again) ^^ and yes i noticed the minor changes in the OP but they are so minor! in ep 16 it`s OP change, no? |
doblefiloDec 13, 2008 9:39 PM
| Hallelujah is back, 00 kicks more @$$ & a new hot chick has shown up. I love this show. Oh & the obligatory "space-borne super weapon" has made its appearance as it should in every Gundam. I wonder if this one is going to fall to Earth or just attempt to scorch it? |
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| The 00 is beyond overpowered now..well at least for a couple episodes since the A-laws have also gotten spontaneous upgrades lol Well I'm looking forward to seeing it in action. Hallelujah! :D |
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| Quite powerful that Momento Mori weapon, nice way of naming it too. Good to see Hallelujah back, things should get interesting once again. |
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| I don't think the Colonel would die. He is like immortal. xD Obviously, Anew seems fishy (those innovator's strange names alone are fishy enough), though maybe being introduced by Liu Mei doesn't mean she will betray them. I mean she let Nena do some spying on Ribbons, so I think she is still two timing. She hasn't made her bed yet. Moreover Ali lied to Ribbons about not seeing some sort of spy (Nena?), so I wonder what's up. I'm starting to question everyone's relationship to everything. xD Interesting to have Hal back. But I get the feeling he will be an obstacle to MarieXAle. |
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| lol, way to fake name, anew returner. and man, why exia gets all the cool shit? so unfair.. |
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| Holy crap that cannon was strong, holy crap Hallelujah is back and holy crap 00 got a turbo boost. |
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| Is it now a new in to be an innovater? now we have the throne girl and a new one that are now offically innovaters.. |
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| giant frekin laser beam from satellite, wow, destroyed an entire town- tax dollars at work |
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| memento mori. nice. reminds me of persona 3. And Anew being an innovater. Tieria didn't realise? =/ ferruiz34 said: 3 words............... HALLELUJAH IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!! Heh got that rait. Biggest yeah! in the episode. I still miss Lockon TT___TT |
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| I feel like everyone look there are innovators... |
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| OMG mini death star !!!! are they try destroy the world ??? |
| That Anew looks fishy. She's a possible Innovator's spy. I just hate it when they made the Innovators look alike. Memento Mori looks powerful and mean. But I'm sure they could defeat it somehow. But ah... now Sergei is gone~ T__T And what is Hallelujah doing there?! O__o |
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| C'mon guys, this far into the thread and still no "that's no moon"/"I sense a great disturbance in the Force" jokes? |
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Relenus said: C'mon guys, this far into the thread and still no "that's no moon"/"I sense a great disturbance in the Force" jokes? Hal is back. And he isn't going to let you do that. |
| Things just got a little complicated for Marie-lujah now that Hallelujah is back. |
| Agh, ever since the Innovators showed up, I'm not sure this show has gotten any better. Anyway, the new character Anew Returner is clearly an Innovator and probably a spy. It's amazing that Sumeragi for all her tactical skill cannot tell that Wang is playing both sides too. Hallelujah is back. Trouble. |
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| It just isn't gundam without a big-freakin' laser that can devastate the earth from space. |
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| ... so, did that Memento Mori thing remind anyone else of Kefka's "Light of Judgment"? |
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| Anew Returner...yeah she's not a spy at all. And now we have our super weapon in the hands of idiots, wouldn't be a Gundam show without it. |
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| Seeing or hearing Ali annoys me. Hate that guy. Although I don't like Nena either, it's still sad that her brothers were killed in front of her. 0 Raiser! So cool! Looking forward to it being in action. Returner...why send a spy when the sky is helping out really well? I feel like perhaps Returner won't really be bad guy? Or I just don't want her to be a bad guy, lol. She seems to have a gentle disposition. At least, she doesn't look arrogant like all the other Innovators... Saji continues to not know what to do. I don't find that annoying, as it 's really understandable since his life has changed so much. As long as he doesn't do anything stupid and close his eyes to reality, I don't mind his presence. I do hope he finds an answer. It's interesting that Saji and Marie have had a few talks. Speaking of Marie, seems like Sergei died. That Mementos Mori is a crazy destructive weapon. Smh. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I enjoyed the flashback with Sumeragi and Kati. It's sad that they have to fight each other. Also, why do some of them have Japanese code names, lol. Setsuna and Sumeragi, to be more precise. Hallelujah is back? I don't think that's really necessary. I really don't like the revival of supposedly dead characters, and I'm not just talking about Gundam, but any story in general. But I guess Hallelujah is needed for Allelujah to be in top shape. I wonder if in real life, an alter has ever gone back to a system? I've heard of alters leaving (integrating), but coming back? |
| They straight baked that country with their omega orbital space laser. All I can think about Hallulujah being reawakened is how Marie (or a reawakened Soma) will react to him. |
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| I think the memento mori was too much, i hope public opinion will go against them. If something happens to Sergei i will cry. It's time to star preparing for the new girl's betrayal, she is clearly an innovator. I'm starting to get really annoyed by the presence of Wang Liu mei and Ali. |
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