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Apr 12, 7:25 AM
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When Mushoku Tensei II Part II finished airing I discussed the dilemma its protagonist faced with some of my friends and we agreed, for the most part, that it was the optimal solution in the context of the story and the characters involved, however when we talked about how we'd act in his shoes ours conclusions were somewhat different. Today I thought to myself that it could be interesting to read what other AD users might want to say about it.

You can look at this dilemma from two angles.

Angle A: you are Rudeus, the girls are Sylphiette and Roxy; how would you act?
Angle B: You are you, the girls are whoever you want them to be - your favorite characters from other series or maybe even your flesh and bone crushes if you're into that sort of thing.

If you go with the B angle, it would be cool if you specified who you have in mind.
Apr 12, 7:54 AM
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I’m female but I was in such a situation, I’d stay with my husband (Sylphy) and reject Roxy and not make moves on Roxy.
Apr 12, 9:21 AM
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The obviously most ideal solution is to make them all happy, just like Rentaro does.
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Apr 12, 9:28 AM
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The ideal strat from a evolutionary standpoint is being a genkis khan and spread the seed.
I do typically prefer monogamy if romance is the focus, but Mushoku is not exactly a romance by any means.
Apr 12, 9:34 AM
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there is nothing wrong with harem but lying is disgusting, what loodie did disqualifies him as a man and husband, I prefer to live my life in honor.
Apr 12, 9:52 AM
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I would be a monogamy enjoyer if I wasn't forever alone.
Apr 12, 10:01 AM
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So, she is rejected.

Roxy was a crush from childhood, also she was the only girl who was attractive to Rudy at that time.(close to his age)
, So I wouldn't choose Roxy as well.

Sylphy is without a doubt, the best girl. I feel like listing her qualities isn't necessary as those who have watched the show know about it.
Apr 12, 10:21 AM
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From Rudy's standpoint he made the right decision. Both saved him in different ways. So rejecting Roxy wouldnt be fair. Now as he said his decision completely depends upon Sylphy. If she rejected Roxy I don't think he could have any complaints.

If I am I in same situation I would have stay loyal to Sylphy. Because you don't need anyone except her. She is the most perfect. Even if Roxy made her moves, I would still have to reject her regretfully.

-This kinda makes me scum. And Rudy's decision more correct one. Because if anyone has to get the blame it's Roxy not Rudy. She knew about his marriage. And still choose to do it. I doubt many people would be able to control themself being at Rudy's situation there. (He was shut in(again) for days without eating).

Polygamy is very difficult thing to pull off in a non comedic way. And imo they pulled it off quite well. Let's see how Eris is handled.
Apr 12, 10:29 AM
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It's funny you call it a dilemma, but then offer 5 options to vote for, and the last one is an open ended "other".
Apr 12, 11:20 AM

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leave both, then get a total makeover and become a solo adventurer.

fuck polygamy by the way. i loathe that trope with every fiber of my being.
Apr 12, 11:21 AM

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It's funny you call it a dilemma, but then offer 5 options to vote for, and the last one is an open ended "other".
@JaniSIr Can't argue with that, maybe I should've thought of a better title.
Apr 12, 11:22 AM

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It's funny you call it a dilemma, but then offer 5 options to vote for, and the last one is an open ended "other".
@JaniSIr Well spotted, it's actually a polylemma
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Apr 12, 11:31 AM

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@JaniSIr Well spotted, it's actually a polylemma
@Zarutaku I was trying to figure out a good pun about NTR, I didn't expect this word to actually exist.
Apr 12, 1:55 PM

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You can't just ignore the context and go "Oh, imagine it's other characters".
Polygamy is widely accepted in that world, it just isn't a thing for the Millis faith in particular.

And it makes extra-sense in any society that abides by the philosophy of "If a man is doing his duties to his family (Providing their economic, psychological and physical needs), then he is acting morally".
Apr 12, 2:37 PM

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I think the situation is similar to 100 Girlfirnds and Rudy just wants to make everyone happy without sidelining anyone. In normal world this relationship wouldn't last, but with the benefit of it being fiction it can. I personally don't like polygamy and that's the only thing that prevented me from enjoying 100 Girlfriends so much.
Anyway, Sylphy was the first one, so I guess I would go with her.
Sep 14, 7:45 AM

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Interestingly, no one chose "Stay with Roxy, leave Sylphy" option, but it happens in real life all the time.
Sep 14, 8:12 AM

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I can't see Roxy as an adult in that anime, so Sylphy is the right option.
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Sep 14, 8:22 AM

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Interestingly, no one chose "Stay with Roxy, leave Sylphy" option, but it happens in real life all the time.
@Shizuna if anyone leaves Sylphy after how she saved Rudy he have to be lowest of low scum of the earth. Respectfully they deserve worst of pains for him and his family for 1000 lives..👍
Sep 14, 8:42 AM

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Shizuna said:
Angle A: you are Rudeus, the girls are Sylphiette and Roxy; how would you act?

I would suggest that Roxy marries Sylphie, instead of me, which would (deservedly) make Sylphie the center of the harem, for the better of us all.
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Sep 14, 9:09 AM

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Why choose between Roxy and Sylphy, if Rudeus is primed for polyamory? Eris will be the 3th of his harem :P
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Sep 14, 12:14 PM
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No brainer. Stay with Sylphy, be grateful & respect Roxy for the role she played in your life, but no to a waifu/concubine/mistress relationship. When Eris enters the equation, things get more complicated.


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Interestingly, no one chose "Stay with Roxy, leave Sylphy" option, but it happens in real life all the time.
@Shizuna I feel like all real life examples I can think of, if a man is cheating on his wife with another girl, and people are encouraging him to leave his wife for the other girl, they likely see it as he no longer loves his wife, which is why he is cheating in the first place, and so he should not force himself to stay in an unhappy relationship, and instead go be with the person he is happy with.

I can't imagine anyone who has seen this show, could come to the conclusion that Rudy no longer loves or is happy with Slyphy, so I can't see anyone come to the conclusion that he should abandon her and their soon to be child, just because he had a one-night stand with his childhood crush. Even if he has genuine feeling for her.

Replace the names with descriptions instead

C .Stay with (a person he loves), leave (a person he loves, committed himself to in marriage, and has a child with)

Can you see many people picking that option over A or B?

If the question was just "if Rudy could only pick one, who would it be?" Then I can see Roxy stans arguing for him to leave Sylphy for her, but within the context of "the dilemma" I can't see many people justifying leaving Sylphy in this situation.
Sep 14, 7:28 PM

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Norn was right Rudeus is a cheating loser who didn't realize what he had...although Roxy is pretty fine...Sylphy should have been more pissed and betrayed...but like father like isekaied son...and if Sylphy wants to share her cheating husband then I guess that's on her.
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Sep 14, 7:32 PM
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monogamy or polygamy depends on culture like religion so i might convert to islam as it allows polygamy
Sep 14, 8:34 PM
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