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Oct 31, 2023 1:55 PM

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@Kimurah Yeah, how dare the special sword imbued with special powers that can cut even the mightiest magical monsters with ease, that was introduced in the very first minutes of the character wielding it, explained its status of magic antique relic as a weapon capable to kill the strongest forms of living things (exactly what a hero is) be actually something that will be used later in the story to try and stop the menace that requires exactly the described item.

I can agree with the first two points, despite they being just how a story usually flows and a bit cliche, but come on, the third one was foreshadowed both right before the flashback and in the first appeareance of Alicia. Is in no way, shape nor form an asspull.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun
@CorbanEsp

Yeah sure buddy. Fanboys always love to ride on the writers D just because his BS writing with the least minimal details said so.

A plot device that is just "painted" as part of a character attire is far from proper introduction to something that will change the story flow, it's just as you said it lampshading, but not enough to justify why a side character had the key to change the whole story. You need a whole passage explaining how did Alicia got the sword in the first place rather than just believe "oh she had it from the beginning, there's nothing to explain" hurr durr. This situation is exactly what an asspull is. But then again, both you and that other guy that loves my D @Sigmar-Unberogen know jack shit about what constitutes as proper writing and buy whatever BS the author is selling.

Here's a good example of proper plot device introduction. In Lord of the Rings, imagine if we never saw that sequence where Bilbo Baggins hands over to Froddo the mythril armor and the mythril sword that can detect orcs. The whole audience would feel like being treated like an idiot if Froddo would have pulled his sword and told the fellowship of the ring "guys my sword is glowing, there are orcs incoming" with no previous explanation. Same thing when he was stabbed with the dark sword and the mythril armor saved him.



Imagine justifying 2 week-long delayed reply with "I just got better stuff to do" and then demonstrating wasting time on a "sh1tshow" like Helck. Can't be more convincing.


@Sigmar-Unberogen

Yes I got better things to do than just idle until you or any other salty fanboy will make a forum reply quoting me. Laughing and pointing out the flaws of this joke of a show is something I can make room for, giving attention to attention seekers is a different story and you need to take a turn and wait for me to feel like replying (I know you'll wait whatever it takes for my reply anyway, so why should I rush?). Also funny that you didn't address anything I mentioned in my post other than "wah wah you didn't give me proper attention to me" Then again strawmen is the only way people like you can make any kind of refutations.

@xdiesp

Whatever you say alt account. You have no leg to stand in this discussion other than just "dog pile" on me because you never had any good argument to properly defend your bullshit.
KimurahOct 31, 2023 2:44 PM
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@CorbanEsp

Yeah sure buddy. Fanboys always love to ride on the writers D just because his BS writing with the least minimal details said so.

A plot device that is just "painted" as part of a character attire is far from proper introduction to something that will change the story flow, it's just as you said it lampshading, but not enough to justify why a side character had the key to change the whole story. You need a whole passage explaining how did Alicia got the sword in the first place rather than just believe "oh she had it from the beginning, there's nothing to explain" hurr durr. This situation is exactly what an asspull is. But then again, both you and that other guy that loves my D @Sigmar-Unberogen know jack shit about what constitutes as proper writing and buy whatever BS the author is selling.

Here's a good example of proper plot device introduction. In Lord of the Rings, imagine if we never saw that sequence where Bilbo Baggins hands over to Froddo the mythril armor and the mythril sword that can detect orcs. The whole audience would feel like being treated like an idiot if Froddo would have pulled his sword and told the fellowship of the ring "guys my sword is glowing, there are orcs incoming" with no previous explanation. Same thing when he was stabbed with the dark sword and the mythril armor saved him.



Imagine justifying 2 week-long delayed reply with "I just got better stuff to do" and then demonstrating wasting time on a "sh1tshow" like Helck. Can't be more convincing.


@Sigmar-Unberogen

Yes I got better things to do than just idle until you or any other salty fanboy will make a forum reply quoting me. Laughing and pointing out the flaws of this joke of a show is something I can make room for, giving attention to attention seekers is a different story and you need to take a turn and wait for me to feel like replying (I know you'll wait whatever it takes for my reply anyway, so why should I rush?). Also funny that you didn't address anything I mentioned in my post other than "wah wah you didn't give me proper attention to me" Then again strawmen is the only way people like you can make any kind of refutations.

@xdiesp

Whatever you say alt account. You have no leg to stand in this discussion other than just "dog pile" on me because you never had any good argument to properly defend your bullshit.
Kimurah said:
Yes I got better things to do
Oh please, only people you convince in this BS are your imaginary friends, a.k.a the "we" you mentioned to me in earlier reply. Imagine wasting time watching a bottom-tier Chinese cartoon (Zanting! Rang Wo Cha Gonglue) and having the audacity to claim you never had 5 minutes of free time during an entire week for a regurgitated reply like this.
This seems to be your cringe strategy to discourage people from replying to you again due to constant delays. Or, it's an even more pathetic attempt to seem more "important" than others, like saying: "unlike you lot I have better things to do in life", and then get caught watching garbage like "Dekoboko Majo no Oyako Jijou" and the Chinese one mentioned above.
Of course you'd blame the world for your idiocy and absence of basic comprehensive skills too. Typical. That's what happens when parents don't spank their kids enough; you get a narcissist with a bloated ego.

Kimurah said:
But then again, both you and that other guy that loves my D
2 functioning braincells seems to have farted for the last time there. I think you've reached the pinnacle in argument articulation. Congratulations for this achievement.
Oct 31, 2023 2:57 PM

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Kimurah said:
Yes I got better things to do
Oh please, only people you convince in this BS are your imaginary friends, a.k.a the "we" you mentioned to me in earlier reply. Imagine wasting time watching a bottom-tier Chinese cartoon (Zanting! Rang Wo Cha Gonglue) and having the audacity to claim you never had 5 minutes of free time during an entire week for a regurgitated reply like this.
This seems to be your cringe strategy to discourage people from replying to you again due to constant delays. Or, it's an even more pathetic attempt to seem more "important" than others, like saying: "unlike you lot I have better things to do in life", and then get caught watching garbage like "Dekoboko Majo no Oyako Jijou" and the Chinese one mentioned above.
Of course you'd blame the world for your idiocy and absence of basic comprehensive skills too. Typical. That's what happens when parents don't spank their kids enough; you get a narcissist with a bloated ego.

Kimurah said:
But then again, both you and that other guy that loves my D
2 functioning braincells seems to have farted for the last time there. I think you've reached the pinnacle in argument articulation. Congratulations for this achievement.
@Sigmar-Unberogen

Yes, that's how I manage my time. I find some things (like creating the post for a chinese anime) more important than answer to obviously rabid and obsessed fanboys that can't take no for an answer. Now we have even stablished that you're so butthurt with my self that you needed to stalk on my forum history (how pathetic, even for you).

2 functioning braincells seems to have farted for the last time there. I think you've reached the pinnacle in argument articulation. Congratulations for this achievement.


Blah blah blah. Keep yapping like an angry kid because someone else has different standards and doesn't rely of delusional pers to make a point. Good to know that you're like the bottom of the barrel mal users, so hung up on a fictional show that you need to act like an asshat over cheap fiction.

edit: see you next week when I'll answer your angry diatrabe. And yes, I answered this post immediately because I was still online.
KimurahOct 31, 2023 3:03 PM
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@Sigmar-Unberogen

Yes, that's how I manage my time. I find some things (like creating the post for a chinese anime) more important than answer to obviously rabid and obsessed fanboys that can't take no for an answer. Now we have even stablished that you're so butthurt with my self that you needed to stalk on my forum history (how pathetic, even for you).

2 functioning braincells seems to have farted for the last time there. I think you've reached the pinnacle in argument articulation. Congratulations for this achievement.


Blah blah blah. Keep yapping like an angry kid because someone else has different standards and doesn't rely of delusional pers to make a point. Good to know that you're like the bottom of the barrel mal users, so hung up on a fictional show that you need to act like an asshat over cheap fiction.

edit: see you next week when I'll answer your angry diatrabe. And yes, I answered this post immediately because I was still online.
Kimurah said:
Yes, that's how I manage my time. I find some things (like creating the post for a chinese anime) more important than answer to obviously rabid and obsessed fanboys that can't take no for an answer. Now we have even stablished that you're so butthurt with my self that you needed to stalk on my forum history (how pathetic, even for you).


It literally takes 5-10 seconds to check a profile and anime-history. This "stalking" takes minimum time and effort you know? Are you imagining something else?

Audacity to call someone a kid when your arguments devolved to this:

"Fanboys always love to ride on the writers D"
"you and that other guy that loves my D".

I'm at loss of words. Nothing says "I'm a credible adult" than mentioning the "D" in an argument. Why not shine to full extent and say it as it is? Saying it makes you blush? Do you think you won't get banned this way? What's the reason?

Kimurah said:
Blah blah blah. Keep yapping like an angry kid because someone else has different standards and doesn't rely of delusional pers to make a point. Good to know that you're like the bottom of the barrel mal users, so hung up on a fictional show that you need to act like an asshat over cheap fiction.
Ahh, once again demonstrating the true adult behavior by throwing tantrums. You're the one continuously crying about "cheap fiction" not being the best fiction. Stop contradicting yourself and make up your mind.

Kimurah said:
edit: see you next week when I'll answer your angry diatrabe. And yes, I answered this post immediately because I was still online.
I'm so glad you edited this post today, solely to let me know this. Also, last time I checked the diatrabe it contained "D's" directed at 3 different respondents. I think the user's name started with "K".
Nov 1, 2023 5:49 AM
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Insecured loser got no valid point to argue about an anime so it had to resolve in checking profile. Fucking pathetic generation
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Nov 3, 2023 7:24 AM

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Bravo! another solid episode!!!
5/5.
now this i how you make good story-telling!


Nov 7, 2023 5:24 PM

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@Sigmar-Unberogen

It literally takes 5-10 seconds to check a profile and anime-history. This "stalking" takes minimum time and effort you know? Are you imagining something else?


It's not about the time it took you, it could had been 2 seconds or an hour. It's the fact that you needed to check on my profile and my forum history in order to know what I was doing with my time in this board. Last time I checked the definition of stalking I don't remember either webster nor oxford definitions stating a maximum or minium required in order to be called stalking. Seriously get a life (though looking at the total number of replies that ship sailed long time ago).

Unlike you, you're so uninteresting and bland that I don't need to check up your forum history to use as some sort of evidence to build up a case (I actually don't check anyone's profile in this site for the matter)

"Fanboys always love to ride on the writers D"
"you and that other guy that loves my D".

I'm at loss of words. Nothing says "I'm a credible adult" than mentioning the "D" in an argument. Why not shine to full extent and say it as it is? Saying it makes you blush? Do you think you won't get banned this way? What's the reason?


Because sometimes I don't need to use full words? You got the message, it's more than enough. But then again your whole personality is being a Karen and if people don't do things exactly as you would then they are wrong in your very short sighted vision.

I'm so glad you edited this post today, solely to let me know this. Also, last time I checked the diatrabe it contained "D's" directed at 3 different respondents. I think the user's name started with "K".


Didn't you just barked at me because I didn't use a full word, but you now are just using capital letters to do the same? Hypocrisy should be your middle name. Typical Karen.
Nov 7, 2023 9:33 PM

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@Sigmar-Unberogen

It literally takes 5-10 seconds to check a profile and anime-history. This "stalking" takes minimum time and effort you know? Are you imagining something else?


It's not about the time it took you, it could had been 2 seconds or an hour. It's the fact that you needed to check on my profile and my forum history in order to know what I was doing with my time in this board. Last time I checked the definition of stalking I don't remember either webster nor oxford definitions stating a maximum or minium required in order to be called stalking. Seriously get a life (though looking at the total number of replies that ship sailed long time ago).

Unlike you, you're so uninteresting and bland that I don't need to check up your forum history to use as some sort of evidence to build up a case (I actually don't check anyone's profile in this site for the matter)

"Fanboys always love to ride on the writers D"
"you and that other guy that loves my D".

I'm at loss of words. Nothing says "I'm a credible adult" than mentioning the "D" in an argument. Why not shine to full extent and say it as it is? Saying it makes you blush? Do you think you won't get banned this way? What's the reason?


Because sometimes I don't need to use full words? You got the message, it's more than enough. But then again your whole personality is being a Karen and if people don't do things exactly as you would then they are wrong in your very short sighted vision.

I'm so glad you edited this post today, solely to let me know this. Also, last time I checked the diatrabe it contained "D's" directed at 3 different respondents. I think the user's name started with "K".


Didn't you just barked at me because I didn't use a full word, but you now are just using capital letters to do the same? Hypocrisy should be your middle name. Typical Karen.
Kimurah said:
It's the fact that you needed to check on my profile and my forum history in order to know what I was doing with my time in this board.

It's public information available to everyone, sweetheart. Checking one's profile usually gives a hint to what type of person you're dealing with; be it their bio, MAL mean-score or comments. Funny enough literally the first other comment of yours I've clicked on (after your first Helck reply), revealed the same issue, which is your lack of attentiveness and downright bad comprehensive skills, which is evident in our other discussion. More about it there.
Kimurah said:
Because sometimes I don't need to use full words?
No. Your insecure inner-child simply couldn't resist the urge to throw insult, albeit in the most pathetic way. This was rich coming from someone who assumes they're above the "bottom of the barrel" MAL users. Do you think abbreviation makes you sound less of a 10 year old?
Kimurah said:
Didn't you just barked at me because I didn't use a full word, but you now are just using capital letters to do the same? Hypocrisy should be your middle name. Typical Karen.
What are you even talking about??? K stands for Kimurah. That's all there is to it. I was pointing at your hypocrisy calling my comment a diatrabe while throwing insults a litteral child would, assuming saying D instead of Dick won't get them called to a principal.
I suppose you don't have a mirror to see the Karen at home then.
Nov 24, 2023 6:02 AM

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Those nobles just sitting there with their presumed inherited title: general populace become my slave (and also lose all consciousness and free will); you should be honored.

Not narcissistic at all kappa.

Helck getting backstabbed seemed quite serious.
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Nov 24, 2023 6:04 AM

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Wait so if the plan was to force people into this I guess something must change later where they actually volunteer to be awakened unless it wasnt a real choice and only made to seem like they chose to.

They got an offer they couldn't refuse...
@Gl0rp ...- Don Vito Corleone 2023
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Nov 28, 2023 1:36 AM

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Zeruzeon seeking Helck's help on the "Power of Awakening" that will arguably destroy the kingdom with awakened warriors, to create a kingdom just for the nobility, he fears for the worst since it's Great Sage Mikaros at the helm of this nefarious plan, and while the king is the spellcaster, Cless can still put a stop to this plan. And being good friends at that, he is prepared if Cless turns to the path of evil. To that stance, both Alicia and Edil will support him rig his way through, though Mikaros has already assumed that Zeruzeon has no brains to approve this plan.

Worse still, the kingdom's senators are all blindsided by nobility, which the king has enormous power over all, and yet, Helck defies the very nature of the king, though that does not discount him facing his own brother, which Mikaros took advantage of to make the plan work. Alicia's Hero Slayer sword was deemed useless before, but this point, proves critical to saving him. But just when things were letting up, Mikaros suddenly having found himself having power even to kill Helck.

By what chance of a miracle did Helck eventually recover?
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should have just killed the king, mikaros and the senators. Damn softies.

The backstory is still not over wow
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It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
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so the broken sword helck kept with him was alicia's, how did it break is what i wanna know. or perhaps he used it to kill cless when he went out of control and those nobles branded him a traitor or something just to have all the humans hate him?
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Holy shit. Backstory is tying up a lot of the plot. But his past is pretty nuts.

Only thing I don't like is how Zeru is talking with Helck and they discuss the demon lord value and Helck mentions the demons wanting peace, but Zeru is completely silent about what was said began the demon lord and Cless, or how exactly he was poisoned...

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