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Nov 16, 2022 7:45 PM
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Not to hate on this. But i find it funny that the mainstream media and tubers who declared this the best or top 2/3 have basically forgotten about the show and moved on to bleach, chainsaw man, my hero academia. It's days of tracking 1 on corner and trendz seems to be behind them.

It was lucky in spring its only competitors were date a live and kaguya. But once the shonens came in, it got eaten by the sharks

As someone who has read the manga, it takes a while for the plot to progress. With this shows pacing where people are monologuing all the time, it feels like they are trying to drag it out. Endo ironically doesn't like his own creation that much.

What do you think?
Nov 16, 2022 7:55 PM
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nah its pretty good, some stuff just has its time in the limelight just because
Nov 16, 2022 8:09 PM
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Because there are shows that better than Spy X family, CSM is even more hype than this show, Bleach is also for the hype and nostalgia so obviously they will be talked about more
Nov 16, 2022 8:23 PM
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it's a good show for me and I am currently reading it's manga it's fine but i think I was overhyped for this show because of wit studio
Nov 16, 2022 8:40 PM
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Well written, well animated, enjoyable to watch. The manga was already very big pre-anime release, the popularity combined with the studios working on it just helped elevate it. It’s also easy to watch, not overly “violent“ and a good vibe show. It appeals to a large range of people
Nov 16, 2022 8:53 PM
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Cringe post.

People like what they like. No use saying this show is better than that show because people can like both shows. People usually watch for enjoyment, so it’s foreign to MAL users.
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Nov 16, 2022 8:54 PM
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Nobody cares about date a live so only kaguya was its only competitor really
Nov 16, 2022 9:05 PM
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icefirestone23 said:
Not to hate on this. But i find it funny that the mainstream media and tubers who declared this the best or top 2/3 have basically forgotten about the show and moved on to bleach, chainsaw man, my hero academia. It's days of tracking 1 on corner and trendz seems to be behind them.

It was lucky in spring its only competitors were date a live and kaguya. But once the shonens came in, it got eaten by the sharks

As someone who has read the manga, it takes a while for the plot to progress. With this shows pacing where people are monologuing all the time, it feels like they are trying to drag it out. Endo ironically doesn't like his own creation that much.

What do you think?

Too be fair those streamers and media people constantly have to change their seasons focus to make the video and money. They all gave spy family their praises and stuff and now the go too are bleach, csm, and mha. But for some overall quality and story spy family should be praised and more talked about than mha
Nov 16, 2022 9:44 PM
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Spy x family was beaten by other shonen carried by media hype, but things like this happen regularly

It's how this world works, if you want to stay relevant, always bring something new
Nov 16, 2022 9:47 PM

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Nah, the hype-wagoners were always more interested in action anime. The tubers generally fall into that crowd too, and have better things that excite them more to talk about this season.

It's not that the show is perfect either. I think the screen time is much too focused on Loid and Anya. And contrary to a lot I've heard, I've never been too entertained by Anya's school scenes. There's not much focus on Yor and her profession, plus the tension of them not knowing each other's profession is gone more or less. Multiple stories now where she's just there to tie up Loid's mission by beating someone up because "Haha she's an assassin". In the end the story is either Loid spy mission mode or chill family/school mode.

Overall, the show is still an entertaining watch. I'd say it's about as good as the first part.
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Nov 16, 2022 10:03 PM
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Even though I liked this show, I'm going to say yes. A lot of it's success was initially because of media hype
Nov 16, 2022 10:25 PM

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Saimatsu_Fan said:
Nobody cares about date a live so only kaguya was its only competitor really


Date a live has a much stronger plot than both kaguya and spy x family. Also a bigger franchise. Kaguya and spy x are just new waifu slice of life with little plot direction shows that newcomers will vehemently rally behind just like my dress up darling.


Realistically no one will consider kaguya, spy x, dress up darling under shows with an actual plot. It's a joke how people are complaining about bleach being 1 on corner all season and spy x not when Bleach is an objectively better show.
Nov 16, 2022 10:26 PM
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
Nobody cares about date a live so only kaguya was its only competitor really

youd be surprised how many people like date a live
Nov 16, 2022 10:31 PM

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JoshJoestar97 said:



Too be fair those streamers and media people constantly have to change their seasons focus to make the video and money. They all gave spy family their praises and stuff and now the go too are bleach, csm, and mha. But for some overall quality and story spy family should be praised and more talked about than mha


Agree on streamers but a ton of anime streamers are not caught up on older shows so they only cover new one.

Csm is getting shilled far more than Bleach is by anitube. I would say spy x is a lot as well. But let us be real here. Spy x is a SOL with little plot direction like kaguya and dress up darling. Yet these shows are considered better than action oriented plot shows like mha. Those are some double standards.
Nov 16, 2022 10:37 PM
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When Spy x Family is the most popular anime of thr season in Japan.
Nov 16, 2022 11:59 PM

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no, its a lovely and funny show. And that's basically enough to be highly praised. If an anime can perform in their genre great they don't need anything else to please people.

Nov 17, 2022 12:31 AM
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The anime is entertaining without the need to fall into things like fanservice or something like that.

Although on the other hand, it's not a big deal either, I would say that it was supported by the hype but only because it was something a bit different from what came in the spring season.
Nov 17, 2022 1:37 AM

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This season is oversaturated with very good shows. Spy X Family is just one of those very good shows.

Nov 17, 2022 2:12 AM
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Cyrose said:
no, its a lovely and funny show. And that's basically enough to be highly praised. If an anime can perform in their genre great they don't need anything else to please people.
naah Spy IS basically trash compared to Mha
Nov 17, 2022 2:14 AM
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LuisSV23 said:
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The anime is entertaining without the need to fall into things like fanservice or something like that.

Although on the other hand, it's not a big deal either, I would say that it was supported by the hype but only because it was something a bit different from what came in the spring season.
spring was pure mediocrity that's why
Unlike winter and Fall only peaks. Aot S4P2. Kny. CSM. Bleach ๐Ÿคฉ
Nov 17, 2022 3:04 AM
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Consider the fact that people have been waiting for over a decade for Bleach... also new viewers who are just getting into the franchise, it's like a new shiny thing currently. Ofc other shows will be overshadowed right now. I don't know what else you expect anyone to say.
Nov 17, 2022 3:39 AM
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Honestly I'm dropping it after this part. It's becoming more and more shonen-esque, feel-good escapism that I quite dislike personally.
Nov 17, 2022 3:47 AM
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icefirestone23 said:
JoshJoestar97 said:



Too be fair those streamers and media people constantly have to change their seasons focus to make the video and money. They all gave spy family their praises and stuff and now the go too are bleach, csm, and mha. But for some overall quality and story spy family should be praised and more talked about than mha


Agree on streamers but a ton of anime streamers are not caught up on older shows so they only cover new one.

Csm is getting shilled far more than Bleach is by anitube. I would say spy x is a lot as well. But let us be real here. Spy x is a SOL with little plot direction like kaguya and dress up darling. Yet these shows are considered better than action oriented plot shows like mha. Those are some double standards.

I’m only comparing it because it’s currently airing same way I would’ve included marimashita iruma-kun or to your eternity if they had been brought up. But you correct under normal circumstances you can’t compare since they they are two different genres of shounen. But when we are talking opinions on the season then when we can. But over I’ve had a better time watching spy family than mha even with the updated animation(which is carrying the current season) the story writing is just meh. Like it’s fun, looks pretty at times and the voice actors being phenomenal that’s about it for me.
Nov 17, 2022 5:22 AM

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I've lost count of the amount of SxF topics that could be easily answered with "Just watch the actual statistics outside of MAL or the 2-3k people seasonal polls and there's your answer"

Despite competing with shows as popular as the current season line up and not having a loud and vocal fanbase to show off, it's doing just as well as when it aired in Spring. You could argue it's doing even better, considering the shows of the Fall season.
Nov 17, 2022 6:14 AM

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Anitubers revolves around what's the talk of the town so it's natural they don't talk about Spy Family much. Now, whether they have forgotten the show is unconvincing.

icefirestone23 said:
Endo ironically doesn't like his own creation that much.

I've seen this sentiment going around and I think it's nonsense.




Nov 17, 2022 7:47 AM
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Honestly speaking of facts, they indeed marketed this anime really well like catchy teasers and making really curiosity but did it the only cause that carry on this anime ? No.
The manga did pretty well job with a good story line, and each of episodes are like fine wine, the more you watch more interesting it gets, also generally first episode of majority of anime has many views, then the viewer decide to not or to watch . they did really great job in these genres but well the fact that some very interesting parts of manga havent included in the anime is a bit sad but overall I really like this anime .
Nov 17, 2022 8:06 AM
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i think it depends on which group of consumers one is following to make this statement bc ppl i know who were excited abt cour1 are still watching cour2 enthusiastically, this season is heavily dominated by action shonen so those who eat that genre (many streamers) are obviously more loud abt those but ppl who enjoys chilled sol are hyped for cour2 too
Nov 17, 2022 8:27 AM

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icefirestone23 said:
Not to hate on this. But i find it funny that the mainstream media and tubers who declared this the best or top 2/3 have basically forgotten about the show and moved on to bleach, chainsaw man, my hero academia. It's days of tracking 1 on corner and trendz seems to be behind them.

It was lucky in spring its only competitors were date a live and kaguya. But once the shonens came in, it got eaten by the sharks

As someone who has read the manga, it takes a while for the plot to progress. With this shows pacing where people are monologuing all the time, it feels like they are trying to drag it out. Endo ironically doesn't like his own creation that much.

What do you think?


I'm anime-only, so, your statement about the plot not progressing for a while is scary to me.

I believe the hype was justified and not just a fluke. It was a great concept, a breath of fresh air, an enjoyable show.
A lot of people, including tubers, were genuinely waiting for Part 2.

But then, the show took the route of many animangas with great concepts : just living off that concept.
It doesn't go further than that, it plays safe, relying on the initial concept that caught people's attention.

I assume this is how most mangakas are taught to write a story? Find a good concept, keep the status quo and just milk it as long as you can until your serie is cancelled?
Authors are picked for publication because of their base concept and 1st chapter attention-catching potential... not for their ability to develop a story.

If you look at it closely, the shows that manage to keep the hype up, are the ones with outstanding concepts and a well balanced amount of renewal. Whether it's through arcs, power ups, character development, or the whole setting changing like Jojo...
It's not an easy thing to do, a lot of authors fail at renewing their base concept or go too far to the point of genre shifting (Promised Neverland, Medaka Box....)

Even the mainstream shounens that I like to hate, have the merit to not keep the status quo forever. I can't deny that their authors are skilled for that.

This is exactly not what Spy x Family is doing with that Part 2, and the reason why it's going to be forgotten... it just stays in its comfort zone and keeps the status quo there...
As much as I love mangas and animes, I think this is a problem happening too often in mainstream productions... Spy X Family is still fine to watch, but the hype is gone for a valid reason.
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I think it’s wholesome, unlike most action anime which are incredibly gory and violent. In fact, I’d classify it more as slice of life, which is my favorite genre, but typically carries less buzz.
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Nov 17, 2022 10:26 AM

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no it's carried by Anya. She carries this show so hard that even though the rest of the characters are good. Anya is just too good. When she grows up, she'll have severe back pain from carrying an entire series. The back pain will be so severe that she will never be able to walk straight again.
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Nov 17, 2022 10:38 AM
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Hype has died down mostly because many people feel that s2 just isn't as high of quality as s1.

S1 was great IMO and deserved a top spot in people seasonal rankings. S2 just hasn't carried the ball quite as well for whatever reason.
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Nov 17, 2022 1:11 PM

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Dafrek said:


I'm anime-only, so, your statement about the plot not progressing for a while is scary to me.

I believe the hype was justified and not just a fluke. It was a great concept, a breath of fresh air, an enjoyable show.
A lot of people, including tubers, were genuinely waiting for Part 2.

But then, the show took the route of many animangas with great concepts : just living off that concept.
It doesn't go further than that, it plays safe, relying on the initial concept that caught people's attention.

I assume this is how most mangakas are taught to write a story? Find a good concept, keep the status quo and just milk it as long as you can until your serie is cancelled?
Authors are picked for publication because of their base concept and 1st chapter attention-catching potential... not for their ability to develop a story.

If you look at it closely, the shows that manage to keep the hype up, are the ones with outstanding concepts and a well balanced amount of renewal. Whether it's through arcs, power ups, character development, or the whole setting changing like Jojo...
It's not an easy thing to do, a lot of authors fail at renewing their base concept or go too far to the point of genre shifting (Promised Neverland, Medaka Box....)

Even the mainstream shounens that I like to hate, have the merit to not keep the status quo forever. I can't deny that their authors are skilled for that.

This is exactly not what Spy x Family is doing with that Part 2, and the reason why it's going to be forgotten... it just stays in its comfort zone and keeps the status quo there...
As much as I love mangas and animes, I think this is a problem happening too often in mainstream productions... Spy X Family is still fine to watch, but the hype is gone for a valid reason.


I am caught up to reading the manga and while there is a bit of plot and backstop involved, the focus of childcare and Anya hasn't changed so it is not like it is going to blow your mind.

I do agree for manga, especially comedy, romantic comedy, dragging something out leads to slice of life and staleness.

Like kaguya after the confession just continues that love subplot that people aren't interested in plus more slice of life.

Other notable example is nisekoi that ran for very long and after the initial hook, largely just became slice of life and repetitive threads.

Of course we know kanokari

But since comedy and romcom has their high confession moments, people tend to look over the staleness of the story.
Nov 21, 2022 12:32 PM
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I feel the plot is progressing too slowly :/ I personally don't feel as engaged as in the first episodes
Nov 21, 2022 3:50 PM

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It's still dominating the big charts on r/anime tho but I do agree that the hype especially on MAL is not as evident as it once was.


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Nov 21, 2022 6:24 PM
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icefirestone23 said:
Not to hate on this. But i find it funny that the mainstream media and tubers who declared this the best or top 2/3 have basically forgotten about the show and moved on to bleach, chainsaw man, my hero academia. It's days of tracking 1 on corner and trendz seems to be behind them.

It was lucky in spring its only competitors were date a live and kaguya. But once the shonens came in, it got eaten by the sharks

As someone who has read the manga, it takes a while for the plot to progress. With this shows pacing where people are monologuing all the time, it feels like they are trying to drag it out. Endo ironically doesn't like his own creation that much.

What do you think?

It’s literally the second popular show this season in mal and the most popular show in japan. Shounen fanboys got to chill
Nov 22, 2022 9:11 AM

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LordSozin said:

icefirestone23 said:
Endo ironically doesn't like his own creation that much.

I've seen this sentiment going around and I think it's nonsense.


@icefirestone23

Yeah, this rumor was created by clickbait website that cherry picked parts from original interview.

original interview
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/web_pages/263/
clickbait website
https://en.as.com/meristation_en/2022/07/15/news/1657911905_266946.html#:~:text=Tatsuya%20Endo%2C%20the%20mangaka%20behind,no%20attachment%20to%20the%20characters.%22
"summary"
https://twitter.com/deepChasms/status/1581511146556690433
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpyxFamily/comments/wjg3l9/fanbook_kazue_kato_amu_tatsuya_endo_triparties/
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- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.74/? - biweekly)
- You and I Are Polar Opposites (Ch.61/? - biweekly)
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Nov 22, 2022 9:22 AM

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Funny cuz this even without media hype right now, in terms of consistent production(direction, animation, etc.)just like Bocchi the Rock, this beats battle shounen anime right now. And it's mostly a SoL show, mindblowned right???
Nov 22, 2022 1:18 PM

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It's still an insanely popular show in Japan, as evidenced by it attracting more viewers than Chainsaw Man on TV over there.

Personally, I was lured in by it's first half-dozen episodes and thought it was going to be something that it ultimately wasn't : a more action-oriented spy thriller series with some light comedy and the occasional character-building SOL moments throw in. Instead we get what is essentially a SOL with action occasionally sprinkled in.

People can debate all they want but there's absolutely no doubt interest in the series outside of Japan has fallen off a cliff, especially this season.

Nov 24, 2022 11:47 AM

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I think season 1 was also just straight up better. It was a unique and interesting setting, now we are used to it and it degressed on top
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Nov 24, 2022 2:11 PM
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And these post is why anime watchers' opinions are not trust-worthy.
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I don't think so, while I myself am not a fan of it at all, Spy x Family definitely has a big fan base, dedicated to it.

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