| I have no idea if this has been asked before, but if the tech came out for us to jump into a SAO-like game (Sword Art Online) like super soon...would you be one of the early adopters? Or do you think some crazy mofo would act like the anime, and try and trap people in it so maybe you should stay back to let the early folks go first? |
| Vr isn't really at that point that it's proficient enough to be used for every time of gaming. not to mention still not a lot of people own VR due to things like motion sickness that a lot experience with vr or can't afford or believe it's to expensive to waste money on. |
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| I just wouldn't be an early adopter, because the game and the "Nerve Gear" would be freaking expensive... |
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hazarddex said: Vr isn't really at that point that it's proficient enough to be used for every time of gaming. not to mention still not a lot of people own VR due to things like motion sickness that a lot experience with vr or can't afford or believe it's to expensive to waste money on. While I know this to be true, the question was asked in a hypothetical sense :) So to rephrase if there was hypothetical VR headsets that everyone could afford without needing to buy a bad arse PC... would you, or do you think your family/friends would be early adopters? ( to become trapped for two years) or a week/however much time till they get that next patch in... Haha because we all know mmos and nowadays new games need patches on day one. |
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hacker09 said: I just wouldn't be an early adopter, because the game and the "Nerve Gear" would be freaking expensive... Lets hope when it all does come out it'll be cheaper, I mean even now you can buy the valve index VR stuff in pieces... and its not too bad price wise...not super cheap but doable if youre patient. |
| I will probably be a late adopter, always use others as a guinea pig before you try it out yourself. |
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| I'd want it asap, and if a game like sao was released I'd want it even more. We've all seen the anime so we know what to do if it turns out that way xD Plus it's time off work.. :P |
| I wouldnt “preorder” if you could call it that, but the idea is still super neat. Like someone else said, “let others be your guinea pig.” Of course, when it’s comfirmed to safe, then I’d be super into it. Then again, with current technology there are some VRMMOs, all be it they aren’t that great. Technology still needs to improve. But hey, at least there’s something to keep us occupied |
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| Until we hit neurological interfaces I don't see the point nor I think we will get a SAO-like game that's actually good. What's the point of playing a virtual reality game if you don't run the possibility of ending up as a vegetable or trapped in a sick experiment of some psycho or an AI waifu that just gained sentience? Waste of time I tell you. |
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Guilion said: Until we hit neurological interfaces I don't see the point nor I think we will get a SAO-like game that's actually good. What's the point of playing a virtual reality game if you don't run the possibility of ending up as a vegetable or trapped in a sick experiment of some psycho or an AI waifu that just gained sentience? Waste of time I tell you. Haha unfortunately I 79% agree with you! Hence the topic question....although i feel like I need to plan ahead for that scenario...like save up some money and write a will, maybe have some investments that pay for my hospital bills? :D |
hazarddex said: Vr isn't really at that point that it's proficient enough to be used for every time of gaming. not to mention still not a lot of people own VR due to things like motion sickness that a lot experience with vr or can't afford or believe it's to expensive to waste money on. Motion sickness in VR is actually rare among younger people. Also, PSVR isn't that expensive, especially if you already own a PS4, and buy the PSVR when it's on sale. I own a PSVR, and it's a lot of fun. |
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Seiya said: hazarddex said: Vr isn't really at that point that it's proficient enough to be used for every time of gaming. not to mention still not a lot of people own VR due to things like motion sickness that a lot experience with vr or can't afford or believe it's to expensive to waste money on. Motion sickness in VR is actually rare among younger people. Also, PSVR isn't that expensive, especially if you already own a PS4, and buy the PSVR when it's on sale. I own a PSVR, and it's a lot of fun. why would i waste money on a PS4? |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: Seiya said: Motion sickness in VR is actually rare among younger people. Also, PSVR isn't that expensive, especially if you already own a PS4, and buy the PSVR when it's on sale. I own a PSVR, and it's a lot of fun. why would i waste money on a PS4? Because there's lots of great games on it, and it has the best variety of any console out at the moment. |
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Seiya said: Because there's lots of great games on it, and it has the best variety of any console out at the moment. no not really. PC has more and as far as exclusives go Nintendo have the only ones that are first party. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: Seiya said: Because there's lots of great games on it, and it has the best variety of any console out at the moment. no not really. PC has more and as far as exclusives go Nintendo have the only ones that are first party. Oh, you're one of "those people." I have no time for "PC gamers," as you all spend most of your time thinking that you're superior to everyone else. I don't play games on my computer, and Nintendo games are too expensive, unless you get them in yard sales. |
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hazarddex said: Seiya said: Because there's lots of great games on it, and it has the best variety of any console out at the moment. no not really. PC has more and as far as exclusives go Nintendo have the only ones that are first party. Hmm I don't know, I'm with @Seiya... Yes PC does have a lot of customization and great games and other stuff, but the consoles specifically PS4 inthis case have great games as well if you want to be an early adopter of those games I mean. An example would be all of the people who were going crazy over the Miles Morales version of Spiderman coming out for PS4 and PS5 only. If youre a huge fan then yeah you would splurge for the console, and enjoy your life...or you can wait the many years till emulation catches up and attempt to hardware or software emulate something you would also need a powerful PC for. But thats a topic for another day, I just remembered if we I decided to become an early adopter for a true virtual MMO, Id probably have to spend some ridiculous amount of money for a new PC or upgrades. :( |
Seiya said: hazarddex said: no not really. PC has more and as far as exclusives go Nintendo have the only ones that are first party. Oh, you're one of "those people." I have no time for "PC gamers," as you all spend most of your time thinking that you're superior to everyone else. I don't play games on my computer, and Nintendo games are too expensive, unless you get them in yard sales. idk how having pc and switch classifies me as pc game, buuut okay. you say nintendo games are expensive, but most games are sold for 60$ it's a standard price it's not like Nintendo is deviating from what most gaming companies are charging for their games also sales exists on the Nintendo e store. and you can get used games for the switch it's not like a cd and with the switch you can download the game onto the switch itself. but sure lets talk about how oh so good sony's ps4 and anti consumer practices are enjoy your censored anime titles @vosake you don't need the "fresh off the mint." graphics card and processor to have a good gaming rig. people who boast about there ultra wide monitor 8k nonsense are the few the vast majority of people who game on pc don't bother with spending that much money. most gaming rigs can be bought on a workers sallery. |
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| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: Seiya said: Oh, you're one of "those people." I have no time for "PC gamers," as you all spend most of your time thinking that you're superior to everyone else. I don't play games on my computer, and Nintendo games are too expensive, unless you get them in yard sales. idk how having pc and switch classifies me as pc game, buuut okay. you say nintendo games are expensive, but most games are sold for 60$ it's a standard price it's not like Nintendo is deviating from what most gaming companies are charging for their games also sales exists on the Nintendo e store. and you can get used games for the switch it's not like a cd and with the switch you can download the game onto the switch itself. but sure lets talk about how oh so good sony's ps4 and anti consumer practices are enjoy your censored anime titles Switch games are $80 each in my country, and controllers are $100 each. Also, I don't pay for digital games. I don't like censorship either, but most of the games that I play aren't censored anyway. |
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| Given how easily moddable games like Half-Life, Warcraft 3, and Arma 2 were in the past, I'm surprised to not yet see the VR equivalent desu. Or at least, the fruits of such. Watame said: vosake said: Or do you think some crazy mofo would act like the anime, and try and trap people in it so maybe you should stay back to let the early folks go first? Yeah, it is goin' to happen somewhere in 200 years. (The best case scenario). But, yeah, it is a possibility and might happen in the future. It should happen around the point prosthetics become viable alternatives to their mushy counterparts. If neuroscience were made more easily accessible... |
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hazarddex said: Seiya said: Oh, you're one of "those people." I have no time for "PC gamers," as you all spend most of your time thinking that you're superior to everyone else. I don't play games on my computer, and Nintendo games are too expensive, unless you get them in yard sales. idk how having pc and switch classifies me as pc game, buuut okay. you say nintendo games are expensive, but most games are sold for 60$ it's a standard price it's not like Nintendo is deviating from what most gaming companies are charging for their games also sales exists on the Nintendo e store. and you can get used games for the switch it's not like a cd and with the switch you can download the game onto the switch itself. but sure lets talk about how oh so good sony's ps4 and anti consumer practices are enjoy your censored anime titles @vosake you don't need the "fresh off the mint." graphics card and processor to have a good gaming rig. people who boast about there ultra wide monitor 8k nonsense are the few the vast majority of people who game on pc don't bother with spending that much money. most gaming rigs can be bought on a workers sallery. "you don't need the "fresh off the mint." graphics card and processor to have a good gaming rig." You may not need it but imho it's better to get it the first time. Most of the reason I personally build my own pc is because a) I can control the bloatware, b) obviously i control the parts as I see fit So why not save up the money within your possibilities and get the highest grade you can so you dont have to upgrade it within the next 4-5 years, unlike most laptops. Which going back to our topic, if you think a mid-grade graphics processor can do what we are hypothetically talking about...i.e. a whole new world where we can taste, touch, see, and fight akin to SAO...then shi* You might be right because noone knows what that future will look like! haha xD Im hoping it costs medium range so a lot of people can get in from the beginning to see what its like. :o |
Indochina said: Given how easily moddable games like Half-Life, Warcraft 3, and Arma 2 were in the past, I'm surprised to not yet see the VR equivalent desu. Or at least, the fruits of such. Watame said: Yeah, it is goin' to happen somewhere in 200 years. (The best case scenario). But, yeah, it is a possibility and might happen in the future. It should happen around the point prosthetics become viable alternatives to their mushy counterparts. If neuroscience were made more easily accessible... If they are still talking about gene modifying unborn babies, why cant we also focus on neuroscience...as I would assume (guessing here) some part of those must overlap. |
vosake said: hazarddex said: Vr isn't really at that point that it's proficient enough to be used for every time of gaming. not to mention still not a lot of people own VR due to things like motion sickness that a lot experience with vr or can't afford or believe it's to expensive to waste money on. While I know this to be true, the question was asked in a hypothetical sense :) So to rephrase if there was hypothetical VR headsets that everyone could afford without needing to buy a bad arse PC... would you, or do you think your family/friends be early adopters? ( to become trapped for two years) or a week... Haha because we all know mmos and nowadays new games need patches on day one. i think i would definitely give it a shot, maybe just a bit scared to be trapped, but still more convinced to try it... |
shinymelody said: vosake said: While I know this to be true, the question was asked in a hypothetical sense :) So to rephrase if there was hypothetical VR headsets that everyone could afford without needing to buy a bad arse PC... would you, or do you think your family/friends be early adopters? ( to become trapped for two years) or a week... Haha because we all know mmos and nowadays new games need patches on day one. i think i would definitely give it a shot, maybe just a bit scared to be trapped, but still more convinced to try it... Reason I thought of the topic to start it. I think a lot more people would be willing to say fudge it and go than are currently admitting... Especially even now with the world being chaotic...obviously we're not at that tech level yet, but when it does come... makes me wonder still how many people old and young will jump on the bandwagon who've lived through covid, and/or other stuff. Life makes you live, if that make sense, and unfortunately we all do our outside MMO differently. |
vosake said: shinymelody said: i think i would definitely give it a shot, maybe just a bit scared to be trapped, but still more convinced to try it... Reason I thought of the topic to start it. I think a lot more people would be willing to say fudge it and go than are currently admitting... Especially even now with the world being chaotic...obviously we're not at that tech level yet, but when it does come... makes me wonder still how many people old and young will jump on the bandwagon who've lived through covid, and/or other stuff. Life makes you live, if that make sense, and unfortunately we all do our outside MMO differently. super interesting thought... yeah covid has made a lot of us suffer, even for my family (fatal economic blow), so probably to escape reality some people would go try it, prob. me too. |
shinymelody said: vosake said: Reason I thought of the topic to start it. I think a lot more people would be willing to say fudge it and go than are currently admitting... Especially even now with the world being chaotic...obviously we're not at that tech level yet, but when it does come... makes me wonder still how many people old and young will jump on the bandwagon who've lived through covid, and/or other stuff. Life makes you live, if that make sense, and unfortunately we all do our outside MMO differently. super interesting thought... yeah covid has made a lot of us suffer, even for my family (fatal economic blow), so probably to escape reality some people would go try it, prob. me too. Sorry to read about your fam, but hopefully ya'll are slowly recovering so one day you can all jump into VR! :P BallistikJuice said: I don't even like 3D graphics let alone VR, and haven't even owned any gaming consoles or "gaming PC" for years now. So after this comment...since you didnt specify Im assuming you want 2d paper mario type VR? Noone said it specifically had to be 3d. Im not against people turning sideways and being paper slim for half a second. lol |
shintai88 said: Considering how VR headsets aren't really that great, I am not expecting much. That said VR gaming shown in a recent China Technology expo, showed some promise on headset sizes, which seems more comfortable, and the gun looked interesting. Just how people have said thinks about TikTok spying like the next best facebook, are you not worried about a VR headset from china doing the same thing? I personally have no qualms against chinese based tech as long as we can know its not spying on us too much (because they are all spying). China in general though locks down everything so I assume everything that comes from there is locked down so their govt has their hands in it too. :o extra links (just from google): https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2020/10/chinas-new-export-control-law/ https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f3f87a68-26bd-4e88-9694-b60e8e071a1c https://www.globaltradelawblog.com/2020/09/02/china-technology-export-controls-tiktok/ But once again even though its a hypothetical question, Im sure all of the people we don't want involved would move in :o |
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