Kill la Kill
| The first half was fucking boring and had no plot whatsoever, after episode 16 it improved a lot. |
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| Well to be honest the first half had a lot of serious moments Eps 3/5/6/7/11/13(IMO the best episodes in the first half) Hell in ep 6 Sanageyama gets his eyes taken out to get an advantage.. I love the humor BUT the one piece of it I don't like are Mako's hallelujah speeches.. She can be hilariously cute in a lot of other ways but during those speeches? No |
| I enjoyed this show throughout, from the light-hearted first half that felt like "classic" Kill la Kill to the darker and more plot driven second half. |
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| Tbh the only thing I wanted from this anime was gurren-lagann themed epic retardation so I was fine with the way it was before, but the latest episodes have definitely changed my opinion on it completely. It went from something stupid fun, to slightly less stupid fun, and then stupid fucking fun with shit going down that I didn't really expect to be executed so well. Now we just wait for the ending. I gotta good feeling but don't quote me. |
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The Evolution of KILL la KILL *Spoilers, obviously. I actually divide the show into 3 parts, and I believe they were trying to divide it the same way. Part 1: Ryuuko Storms Honnouji Academy // Episodes 1 - 12 The introduction. Ryuuko is introduced and meets the Antagonist, Satsuki. All important characters are introduced, and growth between them is shown. Slightly more comedic than latter portions, this first half takes it time to introduce all necessary information needed for the other two parts. Part 2: Senketsu's 'death' & The Tri-City Raid Trip // Episodes 13 - 15 The transition. This is where the show goes from a "Battle Shounen" to a "Character Drama." Alternate motivations are teased, Ryuuko finds a new reason to fight against Satsuki, Nudist Beach is revealed in detail, and Ragyou foreshadowing intensifies. Part 3: Humanity vs. Revocs // Episodes 16 - 24 The finale. Truths are revealed, true antagonists are unveiled, and the final goal is laid out for the protagonists. Satsuki betrays Ragyou, leading to the eventual team-up of the Elite 4 with Nudist Beach against Ragyou & Revocs. This final piece is more of a "Character Drama," showing what happens when seemingly-"completed" characters are thrown into new situations. ________________________________________________________________ My Thoughts As far as each piece is concerned, they executed parts 1 and 3 extremely well. I loved part 1, and I am currently in love with what they're doing with part 3. It's part 2 where they stumbled a bit, and I don't blame them for it. They had to take what could pass for "completed" characters, & give them new flaws and motivations. They had to do that while adding exposition, changing the mood of the entire show, and introducing new concepts, like the OLF. (Original Life Fiber) Where they stumbled was in doing it the same way they had done everything before it. They had Ryuuko fight openly with Satsuki for the third time, had the elite 4 fight one-time antagonists, and greatly disappointed with the Nudist Beach reveal. If they had executed the transition from "Battle Shounen" to "Character Drama" a bit more smoothly, it would've been amazing all the way throughout. Those are only my thoughts though. |
BRSxIgnitionMar 8, 2014 8:43 PM
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRSxIgnition said: The Evolution of KILL la KILL *Spoilers, obviously. I actually divide the show into 3 parts, and I believe they were trying to divide it the same way. Part 1: Ryuuko Storms Honnouji Academy // Episodes 1 - 12 The introduction. Ryuuko is introduced and meets the Antagonist, Satsuki. All important characters are introduced, and growth between them is shown. Slightly more comedic than latter portions, this first half takes it time to introduce all necessary information needed for the other two parts. Part 2: Senketsu's 'death' & The Tri-City Raid Trip // Episodes 13 - 15 The transition. This is where the show goes from a "Battle Shounen" to a "Character Drama." Alternate motivations are teased, Ryuuko finds a new reason to fight against Satsuki, Nudist Beach is revealed in detail, and Ragyou foreshadowing intensifies. Part 3: Humanity vs. Revocs // Episodes 16 - 24 The finale. Truths are revealed, true antagonists are unveiled, and the final goal is laid out for the protagonists. Satsuki betrays Ragyou, leading to the eventual team-up of the Elite 4 with Nudist Beach against Ragyou & Revocs. This final piece is more of a "Character Drama," showing what happens when seemingly-"completed" characters are thrown into new situations. ________________________________________________________________ My Thoughts As far as each piece is concerned, they executed parts 1 and 3 extremely well. I loved part 1, and I am currently in love with what they're doing with part 3. It's part 2 where they stumbled a bit, and I don't blame them for it. They had to take what could pass for "completed" characters, & give them new flaws and motivations. They had to do that while adding exposition, changing the mood of the entire show, and introducing new concepts, like the OLF. (Original Life Fiber) Where they stumbled was in doing it the same way they had done everything before it. They had Ryuuko fight openly with Satsuki for the third time, had the elite 4 fight one-time antagonists, and greatly disappointed with the Nudist Beach reveal. If they had executed the transition from "Battle Shounen" to "Character Drama" a bit more smoothly, it would've been amazing all the way throughout. I can't help but think the score would be a good .40 points higher or more, here on MAL if they had done it in a better way. Those are my only thoughts though. Yeah I agree the middle portion they did stumble a bit, but it's hard to imagine doing it better as they didnt want to spend too many episodes just transitioning and because of this it feels a little rushed. But in the grand scheme of things I don't think it really takes away from the show, in fact I really enjoyed ep 14 even though many people hated it XD. The fact that kill la kill has these two vastly different sides and yet makes them fit into the show cohesively is pretty impressive and keeps it from becoming stale, while many other animes have this problem. About the score, it's always been around an 8 I doubt improving a few eps in the middle would change it by that much, maybe .10 at most. |
WyattEarp said: Yeah I agree the middle portion they did stumble a bit, but it's hard to imagine doing it better as they didnt want to spend too many episodes just transitioning and because of this it feels a little rushed. But in the grand scheme of things I don't think it really takes away from the show, in fact I really enjoyed ep 14 even though many people hated it XD. The fact that kill la kill has these two vastly different sides and yet makes them fit into the show cohesively is pretty impressive and keeps it from becoming stale, while many other animes have this problem. About the score, it's always been around an 8 I doubt improving a few eps in the middle would change it by that much, maybe .10 at most. Thing is - that middle portion is where the score began to really dip. People got tired of how the same match-ups kept happening, and it felt like the story wasn't going anywhere. They could have partially avoided this by having the episode go more like this: Thing is, they pulled the same match ups as Part 1, and it began to feel repetitive for less patient viewers because of it. Kokopelli said: @Ignition I think you meant to include Episode 16 in Part 2; that's when we learn about NB in detail and the OLF. I also must add that Ryuuko's "fight" with Satsuki in Episode 12 was so short and there was so much else going on that it's easily forgotten (I was going to correct you that it was only their second fight until I remembered that, lol). Moreover, the fight in Episode 15 was quite differentiated from the previous two by the setting, choreography, Senketsu's transformations, etc. And I don't quite get what you mean about the characters and the Nudist Beach reveal disappointing. Thanks for the reply - let me explain. I place Episode 16 with the final part because it is where the real antagonists are revealed, thus giving meaning to "Humanity vs. Revocs." Nudist Beach's reveal happened in Episode 15, when they began fighting against Satsuki and the Elite 4 in full force. I call it pathetic because what little of their force wasn't destroyed easily by the Elite 4 in the begining was destroyed quickly by Nonon. Alone. Offscreen. Regarding the fight in episode 12, it was less about its length, and more about the match-up itself. Episodes 2, 3, and 12 all had at least minimal clashes with the same match-up, Ryuuko vs. Satsuki. People began to notice this, and likely found it repetitive once they faced off a 4th time. The fact that the end result was - once again - a draw, didn't help either. Lastly, could you be more specific about what you mean with the characters? Which part of my thoughts were you referencing? |
BRSxIgnitionMar 8, 2014 8:24 PM
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
BRSxIgnition said: Thing is - that middle portion is where the score began to really dip. People got tired of how the same match-ups kept happening, and it felt like the story wasn't going anywhere. They could have partially avoided this by having the episode go more like this: Thing is, they pulled the same match ups as Part 1, and it began to feel repetitive for less patient viewers because of it. You're remembering wrong, the score never dipped, it never actually went down, it was around an 8.03 since very very early on episode 3ish, and only changed by a significant amount around ep 16 where it began to gradually rise. I think your solution to that gap of episodes is totally right, however I think it would require 1-2 more episodes, which would have been better in my opinion, but maybe due to certain budget issues they had to restrict this and therefor had to rush this part. Maybe they'll have kill la kill movies where they sum up entire seasons but then add to the final battle kinda like the ttgl ones haha. I wouldn't mind that, more KLK is always appreciated. |
WyattEarp said: You're remembering wrong, the score never dipped, it never actually went down, it was around an 8.03 since very very early on episode 3ish, and only changed by a significant amount around ep 16 where it began to gradually rise. I remember that it was hovering around 8.05 or 8.04, then dipped to 8.03 around Part 2... But you may be right and I might be remembering wrong. Regardless - it's less about the score and more about the actual quality. You may be right that they may have rushed that piece. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
Kokopelli said: You said "They had to take what could pass for "completed" characters...". Ah, I see what you mean. To explain, Imaishi has stated in interviews that during the Development of KILL la KILL, Ryuuko had the image of what he called a "Completed Character." He also stated that as development got further and further underway, KILL la KILL became more character driven, more like a "Character Drama." He said that Ryuuko changed a lot in this phase of development, because they had to go back to her status as a "Completed Character" and add flaws and such - ones that would give Ryuuko life in a "Character Drama" as well as the "Battle Shounen" she was originally developed for. I assume they went though a similar stage for characters like Satsuki as well. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| Man,it's been a while since I posted anything on this site. Anyway,if by evolution you mean a change in feel & a growth in setting,then I must state I like it.I like seeing this sort of evolution in most series.An obvious example is Gurren Lagann.The show started underground & ended up throwing galaxies like Frisbees. Kill La Kill went from a series confided in the event of a school & feeling small on the scale to a global take over by aliens (though I think we are going back to Honnouji Academy AGAIN bringing it full circle).I agree,it became slightly more serious than it was at the start.Part 1 (as BRS divided) was alright with good portions,part 2 was meh & part 3 is the best portion of this show with some hiccups here & there. So,Kill La Kill's evolution is something I like about the show.Was it executed perfectly?Eh,no.Am I pleased with the result anyway?Hell Yeah,Ragyo is awesome.All that is left is the see the end so I can truly examine the show's evolution. |
| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
Heredity said: Litrydow said: Really? I thought episodes 1-12 were great, and 13-17/18 sucked major ass.The first half was fucking boring and had no plot whatsoever, after episode 16 it improved a lot. Episode 13 was definitely the worst episode of the series. Seriously? 13/16/17/18 were all good |
BRSxIgnition said: WyattEarp said: Regardless - it's less about the score and more about the actual quality. You may be right that they may have rushed that piece. Right. Who cares what score it has on MAL, some of the best shows imo are ones that seem to polarize the audiences being love or hate type shows, and thus end up with generally lower scores. Kill la kill clearly has already had a major impact and has attracted a huge fanbase, I predict it's legacy will grow over time. Kill la kill takes major risks and goes for something completely different from what has come before, it's not a perfect show that's for sure, and yet I give it a 10 mostly due to the fact that it really strives for something more, it's suprising, and it never becomes monotonous. And it's this evolution which finally brought it to a 10 for me, cuz it proved it could handle plot driven episodes as well as episodes that were just pure fun, it's just the full experience. |
| ^@WyattEarp Hahaha - seems like you mixed up what was a quote and who said it. But yeah, I agree. What KILL la KILL does right, is its heart. It honestly believes in what it is presenting. It's unforgiving in its raw spirit, something that has been lacking for quite a while in most anime. It shows you how much talent is waiting to be used at TRIGGER, and how badly they want to push the envelope. I can't wait to see what kind of legacy KILL la KILL leaves behind, as well as what show TRIGGER makes next. |
| "Evidently... There's no such thing as 'meaning' in this world. But that in itself is wonderful... isn't it? Since if there isn't a set meaning, then you can just find one on your own." - Filicia Heideman, So Ra No Wo To |
| I'm actually quite glad the second arc wasn't so spoiler-intensive. So I don't agree with those who said that the second arc was a letdown. They needed that time to introduce Nui and also the details of her father's death. It was a plot build-up, so they did extremely well there without giving away major spoilers for the third arc. |
| I think the main difference between the two parts shouldn't be seen in term of plot but in term of structure and rhythm. Let's use the following letters for the intensity of each episode: H-High, A-Average, L-Low. Structure of first half: HLH - LHH - HLA - LAH Structure of 2nd half: LAH - LAH - LAH - With its three clear built climaxes, it's easy to see why the second part is more likely to generate stronger emotions, especially since twists at the end of episodes seem more frequent than in the first half. |
EratiKMar 9, 2014 10:10 AM
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| I call bs. I don't see much of a difference in anything. The first "half" had its many "serious" moments with entire episodes revolving around them. The second "half" had more because (obvious conclusion is obvious): the story moved on. There is something we like to call "structure" when dealing with stories. We have an introduction, inciting incident, climax, resolution and conclusion, and each part obviously has a different focus from the others. A story that just had the same thing going on from start to finish would be awful (and frankly I'm yet to even see that in any anime). Time has to be devoted to introducing the characters, developing the events that take place (so that the mystery element is not lost) and having reveals and the completion of goals. All that being said, you can tell a lot about a viewer from what they complain about. Most of those that complain about the first "half" never really cared for the comedy, while I for one loved it and it's one of the reasons I have the show rated very high. I can't help but think of impatient viewers that want a quick ride, everything rushed to the end and finished so they can move on when I see people that make that complaint. It's always struck me as absurd that someone would want something they like to be over quickly instead of enjoying it while it lasts. A show that offers only one thing like a 1-trick pony would not get nearly as much praise from me as a show that can offer comedy and action, mystery and drama and many more elements. KlK is one of the best shows offering many different factors that I've seen, and the comedy of the first part is a huge part of that. If you don't like the comedy, I won't even recommend sticking around for the action. All the elements of the show contribute to what makes it great, and if you only want a one-track show, go watch something else. |
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BRSxIgnition said: The Evolution of KILL la KILL *Spoilers, obviously. I actually divide the show into 3 parts, and I believe they were trying to divide it the same way. Part 1: Ryuuko Storms Honnouji Academy // Episodes 1 - 12 The introduction. Ryuuko is introduced and meets the Antagonist, Satsuki. All important characters are introduced, and growth between them is shown. Slightly more comedic than latter portions, this first half takes it time to introduce all necessary information needed for the other two parts. Part 2: Senketsu's 'death' & The Tri-City Raid Trip // Episodes 13 - 15 The transition. This is where the show goes from a "Battle Shounen" to a "Character Drama." Alternate motivations are teased, Ryuuko finds a new reason to fight against Satsuki, Nudist Beach is revealed in detail, and Ragyou foreshadowing intensifies. Part 3: Humanity vs. Revocs // Episodes 16 - 24 The finale. Truths are revealed, true antagonists are unveiled, and the final goal is laid out for the protagonists. Satsuki betrays Ragyou, leading to the eventual team-up of the Elite 4 with Nudist Beach against Ragyou & Revocs. This final piece is more of a "Character Drama," showing what happens when seemingly-"completed" characters are thrown into new situations. ________________________________________________________________ My Thoughts As far as each piece is concerned, they executed parts 1 and 3 extremely well. I loved part 1, and I am currently in love with what they're doing with part 3. It's part 2 where they stumbled a bit, and I don't blame them for it. They had to take what could pass for "completed" characters, & give them new flaws and motivations. They had to do that while adding exposition, changing the mood of the entire show, and introducing new concepts, like the OLF. (Original Life Fiber) Where they stumbled was in doing it the same way they had done everything before it. They had Ryuuko fight openly with Satsuki for the third time, had the elite 4 fight one-time antagonists, and greatly disappointed with the Nudist Beach reveal. If they had executed the transition from "Battle Shounen" to "Character Drama" a bit more smoothly, it would've been amazing all the way throughout. Those are only my thoughts though. |
Kokopelli said: I really don't feel like the series has changed in tone that drastically. The first half has serious moments and the second half has serious moments. It's not the tone that changed, it's the underlying formula. It went from a battle-focused show, focused only on the growth of Ryuuko as she faced enemy after enemy... ... To a character drama driven by her relation to Ragyou, Ryuuko, her new family, her father, and all those characters to each other as well. (Not to mention humanity being threatened.) So I agree, the tone didn't change THAT much - it became slightly more serious, sure, but it's the formula that changed, more than the tone. |
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Agusloquillo said: RedRoseFring said: I call bs. I don't see much of a difference in anything. The first "half" had its many "serious" moments with entire episodes revolving around them. The second "half" had more because (obvious conclusion is obvious): the story moved on. There is something we like to call "structure" when dealing with stories. We have an introduction, inciting incident, climax, resolution and conclusion, and each part obviously has a different focus from the others. A story that just had the same thing going on from start to finish would be awful (and frankly I'm yet to even see that in any anime). Time has to be devoted to introducing the characters, developing the events that take place (so that the mystery element is not lost) and having reveals and the completion of goals. All that being said, you can tell a lot about a viewer from what they complain about. Most of those that complain about the first "half" never really cared for the comedy, while I for one loved it and it's one of the reasons I have the show rated very high. I can't help but think of impatient viewers that want a quick ride, everything rushed to the end and finished so they can move on when I see people that make that complaint. It's always struck me as absurd that someone would want something they like to be over quickly instead of enjoying it while it lasts. A show that offers only one thing like a 1-trick pony would not get nearly as much praise from me as a show that can offer comedy and action, mystery and drama and many more elements. KlK is one of the best shows offering many different factors that I've seen, and the comedy of the first part is a huge part of that. If you don't like the comedy, I won't even recommend sticking around for the action. All the elements of the show contribute to what makes it great, and if you only want a one-track show, go watch something else. Dude, calm down. I was just pointing out a change in the mood of Kill la Kill. No need to say all of this, I just wanted to discuss something. And besides, KLK did change its tone after the first half. For example, the fourth episode is a joke episode with no relevance to the actual plot of the show, and episode 14 centres on the hilariously ridiculous battles of the Elite Four (which were important, by the way); in the entirety of the second half I've yet to see something like that. Also, you can't deny that the second half has more tense scenes without any comedy whatsoever. The first half had comedy even during those intense scenes, like when Mako interrupted Tsumugu and Ryuko in episode 5. To top it all off, I wasn't even complaining. I was, like I said, pointing it out. PS: I'm a spanish writer, so please try not to school me on basic storytelling 101, I know all of that already. I was venting. I've seen this complaint so many times. The 4th episode is one of my favourites and it did have relevance to the plot, exemplifying how Satsuki was preparing her soldiers for battle, the fact that Senketsu had bonded strongly to Ryuko and (even though I don't care much for it) Gamagoori and Mako's relationship. In fact, the 4th episode is one of the reasons why I have the show ranked highly because it has more to offer than just action all the time. That still remains the funniest episode to date and I loved it more than majority of the others. Of course, the 4th episode was downtime before the events moved on and completely fine with its inclusion. If something like that happened when COVERS went into action, then I'd view it as a problem. In the second half the situation changed, so the comedy would also change as well, but that does not mean it wasn't there. Mako's interruption in the latest episode is just like her interruption in episode 5, and it made me laugh. If you review it, you will see that a lot of focus on the second half was on Satsuki who is a naturally very serious person, and that is what gives off the vibe that the tone changed when it was really the focus that did. After the group lost too, there was less time to celebrate and more emphasis had to be placed on beating the enemy. It's just a natural progression of mood corresponding to the progression of the situation, something that everybody goes through everyday. Basically, to sum it all up: there's a time for everything, and it usually depends on the current situation of the characters. |
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Agusloquillo said: RedRoseFring said: I was venting. I've seen this complaint so many times. The 4th episode is one of my favourites and it did have relevance to the plot, exemplifying how Satsuki was preparing her soldiers for battle, the fact that Senketsu had bonded strongly to Ryuko and (even though I don't care much for it) Gamagoori and Mako's relationship. In fact, the 4th episode is one of the reasons why I have the show ranked highly because it has more to offer than just action all the time. That still remains the funniest episode to date and I loved it more than majority of the others. Of course, the 4th episode was downtime before the events moved on and completely fine with its inclusion. If something like that happened when COVERS went into action, then I'd view it as a problem. In the second half the situation changed, so the comedy would also change as well, but that does not mean it wasn't there. Mako's interruption in the latest episode is just like her interruption in episode 5, and it made me laugh. If you review it, you will see that a lot of focus on the second half was on Satsuki who is a naturally very serious person, and that is what gives off the vibe that the tone changed when it was really the focus that did. After the group lost too, there was less time to celebrate and more emphasis had to be placed on beating the enemy. It's just a natural progression of mood corresponding to the progression of the situation, something that everybody goes through everyday. Basically, to sum it all up: there's a time for everything, and it usually depends on the current situation of the characters. (I agree with what you said about episode 4. Even though it's arguably the episode with the least quality, it's still a really fun ride. I think it's the episode I've rewatched the most.) Well, I never said the comedy wasn't there at all, but I realize I implied it; sorry, my bad. What I meant was that the comedy took a huge step back to allow the actual plot unfold, and in comparison to the first half, where the absurdity of it all was pretty much what made it so fun, it was something I found pretty striking. I think they could have kept the comedy at about the same level without sacrificing anything and it would've been a bit more consistent... It's probably just me though. You guys might see something I don't. I do see something differently than you, and that is that comedy can be part of the plot and doesn't have to be a separate thing. Episode 4 is one of the highest quality episodes of the series because it did what it aimed to do extremely well. Just because episode 4 didn't have any big reveals or encounters with the main villain doesn't make it a "low quality" episode. If you were to strip away every single second of screen time that didn't supposedly add to the "actual plot", you will reduce most 26 episode series to less than 8 episodes and that would be plain awful. Being at a climax all the time stops it from being a climax and the effect falls flat because there's no balance between the high and low points. That is one of the main ideas behind episodic series too, and why such titles like Cowboy Bebop get so much praise when they have much less time dedicated to their "actual plot" in comparison to continuous narrative series. I for one like to savour the shows I enjoy and take both the downtime and high points, as both are completely necessary and one builds into the other. I do see what you mean by the striking difference to what pulls you in for the second half as opposed to the first, but they are both fine by me, and one is not necessarily better than the other. |
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Jamie-sama said: yah i kind of felt that way, except for me it went fromIt went from ok, to complete shit, to slightly better. great, to ok, to complete shit, to better im still fucking annoyed by ryuuko's plot armor |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: ?by ryuuko's plot armor Do you mean literal armor or something wrong with the plot surrounding her? Cause that literal armor is hot af. |
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Korrvo said: JizzyHitler said: ?by ryuuko's plot armor Do you mean literal armor or something wrong with the plot surrounding her? Cause that literal armor is hot af. Plot armor Basic Trope: A main character survives a deadly situation simply because they're one of the main characters. |
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Litrydow said: Didn't that get explained though?Plot armor Basic Trope: A main character survives a deadly situation simply because they're one of the main characters. |
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JizzyHitler said: im still fucking annoyed by ryuuko's plot armor She is more or less the typical heroic protagonist, of course any main character will have plot armor to a degree. And in the final three episodes, none of the main characters are out of the woods yet. If anything you should be complaining about Mako's comedic plot armor. Of course for an anime you dislike you would use terms like that to describe it even if other anime blatantly gets away with more BS. Korrvo said: Litrydow said: Didn't that get explained though?Plot armor Basic Trope: A main character survives a deadly situation simply because they're one of the main characters. And this too. She's practically immortal like her mother, of course she'll survive. Surviving when the Original Life Fiber eventually gets destroyed though? I'm not completely sure. |
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| The show is still a massive piss take bit it is better and more serious than at the start, where it got stale pretty quick. At least they managed to make something out of it that's worth watching. |
antonnn said: The show is still a massive piss take bit it is better and more serious than at the start, where it got stale pretty quick. At least they managed to make something out of it that's worth watching. Obvious troll is obvious. |
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migohunter said: Of course for an anime you dislike you would use terms like that to describe it even if other anime blatantly gets away with more BS. Not entirely true, im downright in love with hajime no ippo but ippo's plot armor during fights has gotten on my nerves alot and made me really begin to stop enjoying his fights, the sawamura fight was still downright incredible though even if i knew he'd win mainly cause of music but to be a 100% honest ever since around episode 50 something of the first season ive found his fights pretty dull since hes too damn invincible, though in that shows defense he gets the shit kicked out of him even when he wins though that doesnt change the fact theres no tension when he fights, hes gonna win and you know it. Same with takamura too actually. Thankfully there are a ton of other characters that get fights as well as really good slice of life sections to help the series but god damn the plot armor is way too thick with ippo, also im fucking sick of the damn dempsy roll it was cool the first few times but he uses it so damn much. Also Blazblue(games fuck the anime) has a ton of plot armor for ragna but i usually give that a pass due to the villains having way more than the MC's. I also was bothered by dangan ronpa's(again fuck the anime, < games) since naegi was way too fucking precise on his judgements, thats why i love the 2nd game so much cause they make big mistakes like an actual human would. too bad hinata isnt all that likable Korrvo said: Litrydow said: Didn't that get explained though?Plot armor Basic Trope: A main character survives a deadly situation simply because they're one of the main characters. She is more or less the typical heroic protagonist, of course any main character will have plot armor to a degree. And in the final three episodes, none of the main characters are out of the woods yet. If anything you should be complaining about Mako's comedic plot armor. And this too. She's practically immortal like her mother, of course she'll survive. Surviving when the Original Life Fiber eventually gets destroyed though? I'm not completely sure.yah i will give you that they did explain that, though your misinterpreting the plot armor comment, plot armor doesnt just mean live or die, she still lost fights....well lost A fight, she simply pulls victories out of her ass usually with a new power we never see again like in the blue haired guy's fight and it just makes the fights downright boring. the worse part is it just feels so anticlimatic, they could at least gradually move up to the victory but in KLK they just jump straight to the final move out of no where, like take for example when ryuuko got mind controlled how she just kind of comes out of it after 1 minute, or how in the fights against the 4 3 generals in the midpoint arc of the series she beat the fights just by using a new power at the end of the episode(though the jetpack is kind of sweet). thats what i mean by her plot armor |
JizzyHitlerMar 15, 2014 5:21 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
RedRoseFring said: antonnn said: The show is still a massive piss take bit it is better and more serious than at the start, where it got stale pretty quick. At least they managed to make something out of it that's worth watching. Obvious troll is obvious. How so? Cause my opinion is the complete opposite of yours so I'm a troll? No, I do believe it got stale in the first half, it was the same thing over and over pretty much, and only really changed slightly towards the end. The action got better and there's more blood and there's actually some story, but it's nothing to cheer about. |
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