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Jul 14, 2009 5:28 PM

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iSwordsman said:
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wow, shaft sucks.


You rated this series a one after two episodes, and you are still watching it... wow


Dont mind him, he just loves Senjougahara so much that he decides to act Tsundere for her ;)



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Jul 14, 2009 5:31 PM

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abrasicu said:
iSwordsman said:
mel said:
wow, shaft sucks.


You rated this series a one after two episodes, and you are still watching it... wow


Dont mind him, he just loves Senjougahara so much that he decides to act Tsundere for her ;)
Well played.
Jul 14, 2009 8:48 PM

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Hm, I think Shinobu's reminding me of Rika Furude from Higurashi in her dejected state. I'm wondering if her character ends up coming into play later on~

Jul 14, 2009 10:02 PM

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So Araragi gains 45 kilos, the same weight as Hitagi. Does this somehow mean that he's carrying her burdens as well? Or implying that he wants to carry her burdens? It would be so LOL if he became "responsible" for her.

mcjazzman32 said:
I loved the episode but I have to say I'm going to be disappointed if we completely lose her sharp tongue and she turns all nice. That was the highlight for me. How she was so dangerous while also a complete smart-ass.


I don't think she's going to lose that sharp tongue. She's still yandere after all. That was just a dere moment. :P
Jul 14, 2009 10:44 PM
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I agree great episode loved the humour in the beggining of the episode. I really like how the anime is presented to the audience its definitely very different from your usual anime. The story doesn't seem to suck me in but I think this series will probably end up being one of the better 09 series and therefore I'll keep watching it. :D
Jul 14, 2009 10:55 PM

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JoyDivision said:
I don't think she's going to lose that sharp tongue. She's still yandere after all. That was just a dere moment. :P

Nope, not Yandere, TSUNDERE as she always claims to be one.



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Jul 14, 2009 11:49 PM

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JoyDivision said:
So Araragi gains 45 kilos, the same weight as Hitagi. Does this somehow mean that he's carrying her burdens as well? Or implying that he wants to carry her burdens? It would be so LOL if he became "responsible" for her.
Well.. they DID say those Gods were a sketchy bunch so .. : D
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Jul 15, 2009 12:03 AM

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This is my favorite show this season. Holy god...I'm just...in awe. Too bad, like Ef, this will probably never see an American dvd release because I would kill to own physical copies of this anime. And that's just from seeing the first two episodes.
Jul 15, 2009 8:28 AM

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pretty nice episode. the animation is really cool.
i wonder if next episode story would be completely diferent, because this seemed like it ended there.
Jul 15, 2009 8:55 AM

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Dayan said:
pretty nice episode. the animation is really cool.
i wonder if next episode story would be completely diferent, because this seemed like it ended there.


Yes it would seem so but as mentioned in the synopsis the preceeding chapters will play a substantial role for the subsequent chapters. In what way I don't know though. :D
Jul 15, 2009 3:04 PM

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Alexstratz said:
[Edit] Random Curiosity noticed staplers having sex in the OP. xD


i checked that link 3 times and just now i saw it >.<''

Jul 15, 2009 3:08 PM

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Well.. they DID say those Gods were a sketchy bunch so .. : D


Sketchy is not the right translation. It would make more sense to use "careless."

Hopefully the last bit makes more sense now.

oh well, to be completely honest, I would probably be able to use both sketchy and careless in the same kind of sentence.. it kinda makes the same sense to me anyway : p
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Jul 15, 2009 3:10 PM
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Good episode. I am loving the animation so far. I thought the depiction of the crab was pretty unique. Also, they sure didn't cut back on the fan service, lol (not that I have a problem with it). The story is intriguing and well thought out, imo. However, the characters appear to be following standard archetypes. I hope that there's some major character development that separates the characters in this series from the archetypes of useless dude and tsundere. The music so far is superb as well. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series. :D
Jul 15, 2009 7:54 PM

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Wow... this was full of fail.

Yeah. If only you'd let that man rape you, you're family would be juuuuust fine. WTFBBQ?

Also, what is with the ridiculous fanservice and over-the-top tsundere in the beginning? Why did no one's face get stapled? This show is losing me fast. I had really high hopes for it too, but it looks like it's being dragged down by the twin baggage of ridiculous fanservice (25 kilos) and stupid, STUPID character design choices (rape would have been fine = 30 kilos).

Let hope SHAFT pulls it's shit together.
Jul 16, 2009 1:03 AM

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Very interesting, I guess she's a cancer being born July 7th. Hmmm I do want my bloody gore in the opening thought it will be like Elfen Lied or Gantz. (;
Jul 16, 2009 2:50 AM
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DarkSageRK said:

http://www.answers.com/sketchy
http://www.answers.com/topic/careless

I'm glad you made the connection by understanding the context and thinking past the word choice, but the point is that sketchy completely changes the meaning and doesn't fit at all. People have previously indicated confusion over the ending of the show, and a proper translation would have fixed that confusion.

My fix was not superfluous, kthx.


Yes it is superfluous, and it's wrong.

"神様っていうのは、結構、大雑把な連中なんだ" was the original line.
The word we're looking at is 大雑把 (Ohzappa).

From jisho.org:
大雑把 ohzappa rough (as in not precise); broad; sketchy
Na-adjective, Noun

Key point there: not precise or, they don't care about the details (of humans in this case).

Careless in this context mean "by accident," rather than "not precise", so "careless" is wrong.

Quoting from the translation:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.34,0:12:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't really care about humans.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.55,0:12:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To those Gods, the age, sex, and weight of us three are no different.

If, as you said, the God's are "careless", then these lines wouldn't make any sense at all.

Now, let's try and tackle this from a different point of view.

Why Senjoughara would be in this situation to begin with if the gods didn't pay attention (or careless, if you would)?

Next time, don't start blogging about translations unless you know what you're talking about.

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Jul 16, 2009 5:33 AM

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weird , but it seems different from the first episode for some reason

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Jul 16, 2009 7:00 AM

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I'm going to miss "old" Senjoughara though I can't really complain about her new personality.
Jul 16, 2009 9:29 AM

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Very interesting, I guess she's a cancer being born July 7th. Hmmm I do want my bloody gore in the opening thought it will be like Elfen Lied or Gantz. (;
No, Die in the flames of hell, thank god for Stapler Stable.

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Jul 16, 2009 10:55 PM

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that was sick...


Jul 17, 2009 12:23 AM

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Wow, great ep. Animation rocked!
Also, the story was nice. I thought this'd be an action tv series, guess I was wrong..?

Looking forward to next week~
Jul 17, 2009 7:48 PM

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AWESOME!!!

GREAT ANIME!!

I LOVE SENJOUGAHARA-SAN ^^
Jul 17, 2009 10:43 PM

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Good stuff. :D

Can't wait to see what happens with Senjougahara now.
Jul 17, 2009 10:45 PM

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Jure said:
Spade said it well.

Really great episode, I don't understand why people don't like fanservice, I think it was pretty nice. Though it was a bit weird, seeing that Senjogahara didn't want to drink alcohol, but had no trouble being naked in front of Araragi.

Anyway, I am looking forward to see next arc.
Jul 18, 2009 1:16 AM

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OMG THIS Anime is just awesome! It made me jump when I saw the eyes (16:58).

Can't wait for the next episode and the new personality she has now.


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Jul 18, 2009 1:29 PM
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That was a great episode. If the story doesn't get you, the art or style has to. Wonder how much her personality will change, and really looking forward to more.
Jul 18, 2009 1:58 PM

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Just awesome. Psychedelic and gore all the way and surprising at the end with a more refreshing and slice of life atmosphere.
Also awesome opening I really love it and I'm already in love with this show. Somehow it remind me of Mononoke.
Jul 20, 2009 1:09 AM

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I do believe I have fallen in love with staplers. Someone please tell me that Hitagi is going to stay the same;;
Jul 20, 2009 1:24 PM

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I loved the episode and also the OP. The whole episode had this really creepy feel about it. I think I'm in love with this anime ... ^_^

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Another very absorbing episode, loved it. This is probably my fave regarding the summer anime so far. Good stuff, Shaft. More!

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Jul 20, 2009 1:56 PM

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wonderful story <3 Can't wait to see what happens next...
Jul 20, 2009 2:14 PM

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Disturbing episode. It was great though. OP is pretty neat as well.
Jul 20, 2009 4:01 PM

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Wow, wasn't expecting that.
Great episode, Senjogahara having such a bad background shocked me.
Jul 20, 2009 5:20 PM

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That was really good. I agree that there was to much fanservice in the beginning but the ending was really well done.

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Jul 20, 2009 5:23 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
That was really good. I agree that there was to much fanservice in the beginning but the ending was really well done.
to be completely honest, I think the so called fanservice was actually very fitting with the situation, but that's just what I think, no need to pay it any mind xD
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Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM

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This show seems to depend a lot on symbolism and play on words.

Anyway, this episode was much better than the first one. I like how Hitagi's weight loss was due to her losing touch with her family and her feelings with it.
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Jul 21, 2009 1:14 PM

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The graphic is amusing.
Jul 21, 2009 1:46 PM

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Dur. It's a SHAFT anime. Anyone who's awed by it is a total SHAFT no0b. XD They're always like that lol.

Anyways this was my fav line from the anime: "Wearing clothes doesn't suit me."
Jul 23, 2009 1:16 PM

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Oh wow, I enjoyed it much more than I'd expected o.o It's becoming more and more interesting. I loved it how that 'weight' was something deeper than just physical weight...
Plus, it managed to creep me out a few times D:
I hope Senjougahara stays a part of the story, I like her. The way she mocked Araragi was cute xD
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Jul 23, 2009 3:53 PM

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I just absolutely love the artwork for this anime.
Jul 23, 2009 6:44 PM

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See this is the kind of fanservice I don't mind and totally dig. Nice story, animation and I really want more of it.
Jul 23, 2009 10:35 PM

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ah so her weight was directly affected by her feelings about her broken family.
liked the way they worded it with "omoi"
Jul 25, 2009 6:58 PM

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Amazing.
Jul 28, 2009 10:02 AM

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Awesome
But before seen this cap, I except for a really big crab. Is not giant, is big, but not giant
Jul 31, 2009 11:21 PM

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i used to like shaft's work (esp with maria+holic) but this is too much for me. (i'm on the verge of drooling and falling off my chair after watching them chat crap for 15 whole minutes) i guess i'm just a sucker for more normal/emotional style of animation, not this abstract type. dropping this series bye.

Aug 2, 2009 11:57 PM

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Eh, I'm still annoyed by her behavior, but I can understand where it's coming from better now.

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Aug 4, 2009 3:55 AM

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Great episode. The artwork really amaze me.
Aug 4, 2009 5:21 AM
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Oosran said:
Suzune-chan said:
That was really good. I agree that there was to much fanservice in the beginning but the ending was really well done.
to be completely honest, I think the so called fanservice was actually very fitting with the situation, but that's just what I think, no need to pay it any mind xD


Traumatized boys usually act out with inappropriate violence.

Traumatized girls usually act out with inappropriate sexual assertiveness.

I found the "fan service" rather annoying while it was going on.

Then, when I later saw that the girl had a good reason to feel traumatized, it made sense to me.
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Im giving the SHAFT art style a chance, it really.. I dunno seems off to me, but hell I owe them that much to give it a try.

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