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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow,great episode if i must say^^ Akira meets up with Mononobe and they talk in the helicopter. Mononobe introduced Yuuki(Seleção 10) to Akira when they entered a building. But the ending was pretty good. |
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| I can't believe there's only one episode left! ;_; Loved this episode. Lots of talking at first, but the second half more than made up for it. LOVE IT. |
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| NEET Army was lol. but who exactly is Number 12 now? |
| Very interesting episode. Hard to guess who #12 is. the 5000 to move Juiz were the first withdrawal and shouldn't be enough to pull that off anyway. Can't wait for the final TV ep. [edit]: Wonder what's so great about that pink guy that he was selected a Selecao. |
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cyruz said: Hard to guess who #12 is. the 5000 to move Juiz were the first withdrawal and shouldn't be enough to pull that off anyway. Maybe it's Juiz herself? |
| Yeah, knowing Eden this could be possible as well. |
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| I was thinking shit would hit the fan in this episode.....and it did! |
| CONFUSING..... |
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| Wah, can't wait for next week now. I wonder how they'll wrap this all up in just one episode. |
| Like someone else said... Juiz could be #12 herself... and the Supporter. The failsafe to keep all the Selecao in check. I lol'd at the NEET army but why show up now? Did pre-memory-wiped Takizawa forsee something like this happening and timed the arrival of the NEETs? |
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Kantana said: Wah, can't wait for next week now. I wonder how they'll wrap this all up in just one episode. Or they will just leave us hanging and tell us to watch the movie (highly likely given that there is so much left to explore/explain and only one episode). Good episode though. if this show had some more episodes and finished the story well, it would be perfect. As it is now, it seems like they're going to try and pack too much content in too little time. Pretty much open warfare between Takizawa and 3 other Seleção should have had more time than 2 episodes. |
| Wow, now this is definitely one of the best episodes. So the Careless Monday is the work of some emo kid. I'm pretty disappointed. :/ I wonder how those saved by Akira betrayed him. And what's he gonna do with the NEET army? Can't wait for next episode, too bad it's the last one. :( Something I don't understand though : the pink guy said he still has 10 billion yen on his phone, but aren't the seleçaos supposed to use their money regularly or they'd be killed by the supporter? How come this guy gets to keep his money? XII being probably the supporter, what would that make the pink guy? Unless XII is Mr. Outside or Juiz so he/she isn't affected by the rules and that punk is the supporter. Or maybe it's because he's on Mononobe's side and they hacked the super computer? |
AlexstratzJun 12, 2009 5:45 PM
| woo ... great episode xD The person who sent the missiles seems to be some looking emo kid xD haha didn't think there would be someone who never even spend a single cent |
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| TWENTY THOUSAND NAKED MOTHA FUCKERS ON A BOAT |
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Alexstratz said: Something I don't understand though : the pink guy said he still has 10 billion yen on his phone, but aren't the seleçaos supposed to use their money regularly or they'd be killed by the supporter? How come this guy gets to keep his money? XII being probably the supporter, what would that make the pink guy? Unless XII is Mr. Outside or Juiz so he/she isn't affected by the rules and that punk is the supporter. my thoughts exactly :/ can't wait until next week (and the movie). |
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| Another good episode. I enjoy how the past of Akira in this one and the events on Careless Monday being shown. I've been enjoying of late sitting and while not only watching but having to ponder where the show will go next. It's nice to have to think while watching a show once in awhile because helps you get into the feel of it and try to stay a step ahead of what's being shown to you |
| OMG I JUST GOT MIND FKED! lolz dam speechless i swear Next episode = KaBoOm! dam i needs a preview |
| Very well done episode. I was expecting a clusterfuck of compounded and rushed material, but it was pulled off really well. I can't wait for next week D: |
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| That's call life #10! Nice episode now I wanna know who is number 12. Juiz is one smart lady too to be able to pull off all these crazy demands. I hope last episode conclude this anime and the movie well it could be all the 13 episodes put together or something. |
| I liked this episode. A lot. Though I feel like my brain hasn't processed a lot of this episode since I'm terrible with remembering numbers, so just knowing which Selecao is which number is difficult for me. It's looking like the show will wrap up with Akira, Sakia, and Akira's memories. If they manage to include tying up the 20,000 NEETs and the 60 missiles in a coherent fashion, then I'll be astounded. But I'm going to guess that the movie will be about the missiles and Project Eden. If they do finish the numbers game by next week, then I feel like the movie will be totally about Eden rebuilding Japan and maybe Akira becoming Mr. Outside to continue the game. |
Vipey said: TWENTY THOUSAND NAKED MOTHA FUCKERS ON A BOAT Haha, that just made my day! lol |
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Enchant said: halcyon said: Alexstratz said: Something I don't understand though : the pink guy said he still has 10 billion yen on his phone, but aren't the seleçaos supposed to use their money regularly or they'd be killed by the supporter? How come this guy gets to keep his money? XII being probably the supporter, what would that make the pink guy? Unless XII is Mr. Outside or Juiz so he/she isn't affected by the rules and that punk is the supporter. my thoughts exactly :/ can't wait until next week (and the movie). Same here. Makes me want to rewatch the previous episodes to check if there are things the Supporter can and cannot do despite being a Selecao. This also makes me wonder, how well can Mononobe rely on his sources (even if he managed to become the executive of ATO) to properly identify the other Selacao. I don't remember if Tsuji was ever mentioned by his number, it does seem possible that it's him. He really doesn't seem to match the description of a Selecao mentioned in the reenactment by Selecao # 5. (He doesn't seem as eager to be in the game and as you've mentioned, he hasn't used his funds at all. Yet, he lives.) And he hasn't used his phone, so no history has shown up for him, at least with his number. Nor does match the figure Hiura saw at the time of his death in episode 4, but that isn't really reliable. Now that I think of it, there was no cleanup requested from Juiz after Hiura was killed. Still loved this episode and I was glad to get a glimpse at what Juiz looks like. Rewatch episode 4. It doesn't really say anything about being penalized for not spending money. However Mr. outside says you will get penalized for not using your phone or producing results. So in short, all they really have to do is call people and get involved with things that could possibly save the nation (ie. use the phone). Here is a list of the conditions that they must not brake. 1) You cannot abandon your mission or desert. 2) You cannot go for a long period of time without using your phone or producing no results. 3) You cannot use your 10 billion on your own personal desires. The money has to be spent for the sake of the nation. 4) If your balance hit's zero and you have not saved the nation, you die. My guess is Akira saves the nation by stopping the missiles. The reason he probably didn't win before was because the missile attack was only directed at one general area and not the Nation as a whole. So theoretically if Akira blows all his cash preventing this attack, he most likely wont be killed by the supporter because he saved the country as a result of using all the cash. Juiz is most likely member 12. Not only because she "supports" each member regardless of what they spend the money on but in episode 4 Mr. Outsider describes the supporter as someone who is "Enthusiastic to assist, but cruel when observing". It describes Juiz perfectly. She's always willing to help any of the members but as we learn more about the character and how they're using the money, you can sense her tone of voice changing negatively over time. Mr. Outsider also says "So called member 12" This could mean that 12 is not really a member but the system itself (ie. Juiz). So in the end any of the remaining 11 members could be killed by anyone but it would be the result of Juiz causing it. Look at the detective that was stabbed by his wife. It was a result of Juiz redirecting his message that was for his mistress to his wife. Just my 2 cents. |
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martin03345 said: Another good episode. I enjoy how the past of Akira in this one and the events on Careless Monday being shown. I've been enjoying of late sitting and while not only watching but having to ponder where the show will go next. It's nice to have to think while watching a show once in awhile because helps you get into the feel of it and try to stay a step ahead of what's being shown to you Same thing here. I dutifully wait for it throughout the week and enjoy it on Friday night, when I'm too tired to do anything else... although I also tend to stay up until 2 am after I watch it, trying to decipher this riddle of a show! I haven't enjoyed an anime like I have for this one in a very long time! It's awesome and makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside! :) I really want to know what was done to Akira for him to wipe his own memories... anybody else has the feeling that HE might be Mr. Outside? Betrayed by his own protegees or whatever? And I have a feeling that he might have planned something big before wiping his memories? What about those naked NEETs in the boat arriving right on queue for the grand finale? Seems like a grand mast |
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| And wtf with Akira in the cold on the top of a moving train?? I feel so bad for him! I hope Saki finds him and helps him out!! :( |
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| Wow, this episode was brilliant! God i love this series. So much was explained, im sure the movie has to be the ending since i don't think it can end in one more episode. |
| Ahh! This was too intense, can't wait for next week! |
| Absolutely brilliant, my doubts about this no being wrapped up nicely are gone. We even see what seems to be Juiz herself at the end. Excellent. |
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| Wha......why must it end there! I need the next episode. Takizawa is pretty much alone now, what is he going to do? Where did the Johnny Hunter go? Why doesn't Juiz look hot? The naked NEETs made me laugh my ass off. I wanted Takizawa to beat the crap out of someone, but...alas he is dead... CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT! |
DeathfireD said: Enchant said: halcyon said: Alexstratz said: Something I don't understand though : the pink guy said he still has 10 billion yen on his phone, but aren't the seleçaos supposed to use their money regularly or they'd be killed by the supporter? How come this guy gets to keep his money? XII being probably the supporter, what would that make the pink guy? Unless XII is Mr. Outside or Juiz so he/she isn't affected by the rules and that punk is the supporter. my thoughts exactly :/ can't wait until next week (and the movie). Same here. Makes me want to rewatch the previous episodes to check if there are things the Supporter can and cannot do despite being a Selecao. This also makes me wonder, how well can Mononobe rely on his sources (even if he managed to become the executive of ATO) to properly identify the other Selacao. I don't remember if Tsuji was ever mentioned by his number, it does seem possible that it's him. He really doesn't seem to match the description of a Selecao mentioned in the reenactment by Selecao # 5. (He doesn't seem as eager to be in the game and as you've mentioned, he hasn't used his funds at all. Yet, he lives.) And he hasn't used his phone, so no history has shown up for him, at least with his number. Nor does match the figure Hiura saw at the time of his death in episode 4, but that isn't really reliable. Now that I think of it, there was no cleanup requested from Juiz after Hiura was killed. Still loved this episode and I was glad to get a glimpse at what Juiz looks like. Rewatch episode 4. It doesn't really say anything about being penalized for not spending money. However Mr. outside says you will get penalized for not using your phone or producing results. So in short, all they really have to do is call people and get involved with things that could possibly save the nation (ie. use the phone). Here is a list of the conditions that they must not brake. 1) You cannot abandon your mission or desert. 2) You cannot go for a long period of time without using your phone or producing no results. 3) You cannot use your 10 billion on your own personal desires. The money has to be spent for the sake of the nation. 4) If your balance hit's zero and you have not saved the nation, you die. My guess is Akira saves the nation by stopping the missiles. The reason he probably didn't win before was because the missile attack was only directed at one general area and not the Nation as a whole. So theoretically if Akira blows all his cash preventing this attack, he most likely wont be killed by the supporter because he saved the country as a result of using all the cash. Juiz is most likely member 12. Not only because she "supports" each member regardless of what they spend the money on but in episode 4 Mr. Outsider describes the supporter as someone who is "Enthusiastic to assist, but cruel when observing". It describes Juiz perfectly. She's always willing to help any of the members but as we learn more about the character and how they're using the money, you can sense her tone of voice changing negatively over time. Mr. Outsider also says "So called member 12" This could mean that 12 is not really a member but the system itself (ie. Juiz). So in the end any of the remaining 11 members could be killed by anyone but it would be the result of Juiz causing it. Look at the detective that was stabbed by his wife. It was a result of Juiz redirecting his message that was for his mistress to his wife. Just my 2 cents. But I think that using the phone means using its services, not just calling random people on it whenever you want, without producing any real results. Hell, if that was the case, I'd order dinner every night on it and then bring some to the homeless people outside, and claim that I was producing a result and just live off the huge amount of money until I die or someone wins. I think you have to make a real effort to change the country using Juiz, but who knows, because that pink-haired guy is still around. -shrugs- I guess we'll see soon enough. =) |
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| so finally explanation on who set this up, and it seems number 12 is supporter, or maybe mr.outside himself; anyways, the neets are released, all 20,000 in the nude and pissed |
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Xylona said: But I think that using the phone means using its services, not just calling random people on it whenever you want, without producing any real results. Hell, if that was the case, I'd order dinner every night on it and then bring some to the homeless people outside, and claim that I was producing a result and just live off the huge amount of money until I die or someone wins. I think you have to make a real effort to change the country using Juiz, but who knows, because that pink-haired guy is still around. -shrugs- I guess we'll see soon enough. =) Except that wont answer why one person still has the 10 billion. The rules don't specify spending money at all and that's the loophole. As long as your using the phone to change the nation your not braking the rule unless the supporter feels you are. Theres also the chance that maybe he just received the phone. |
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| Juiz ISN'T the supporter....rewatch episode 4 when #5 was killed by the supporter. I don't think Juiz would wear a suit and have a male figure. |
| complex and confusing... but it isnt really bad, at least its still exciting. i hope they will reveal everything in the last epi. |
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| Truth hurts! good episode and an army of naked NEETS, hurray! |
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| The end was amazing, this whole episode was great. I'm so anxious to know who #12 is. |
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| Most. Awesome. Episode. EVER. |
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| Nothing more to say, people already said it all... Great ep, a bit slow at the very beginning but the right pace came. The ending was just perfect... I can't think of anything else. Where's Akira going now? Back to Tokyo I think... |
| damn that was a great episode:) one episode to go and a movie |
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Syl said: Very well done episode. I was expecting a clusterfuck of compounded and rushed material, but it was pulled off really well. I can't wait for next week D: Vipey said: LMAOTWENTY THOUSAND NAKED MOTHA FUCKERS ON A BOAT god this anime is so cool. |
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So the Careless Monday is the work of some emo kid. I'm pretty disappointed. :/ I wonder how those saved by Akira betrayed him. As for the episode... they didn't actually reveal how Takizawa was betrayed right? I'm scared I just kind of missed something really big >.> Saki's commen t made it obvious how he was betrayed: the people he saved wished something bigger then the missile attacks had happened. Juiz is one smart lady too to be able to pull off all these crazy demands. It seems that she is some kind of super-computer... probably moved while Takizawa and No. 1 were going to the institute (I think that the objects in those trucks were Juiz). the neets are released, all 20,000 in the nude and pissed We don't know if they are pissed of. Looking at the NEET that managed to get out of Dubai sooner, they may even be grateful. Juiz ISN'T the supporter....rewatch episode 4 when #5 was killed by the supporter. I don't think Juiz would wear a suit and have a male figure. :facepalm: When did Juiz EVER do something personaly? If Juiz is the Supporter, she would send someone else to kill No. V. |
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| In the ending it was a guy looking like Akira. Akira was in the room with the other Selecao's and the door were closing. So the guy on the train maybe were a twin or no. 12? I think I've seen someone in this anime looking like Akira before. (I feel retarded now) But that can be the case that Akira is misunderstanding and with all the alias? |
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