Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova Episode 3 Discussion

Tenzen12 said:


Not realy, there is nothing particulary romantic between him and Iona so far, so Takao is only ship around with "maiden plug-in"

Natr1x said:
Up until now I have been quite skeptical to this adaptation. But this was the first episode that was actually on par with the manga. I hope they can make the rest as good ^^

Jyuu-niDesu said:
Ehhh....most of the videos online are screwd up with badly off-course subtitles and missing video frames(the op and after the mid episode break).

But as far as my first impression on a episode that I can barely understand, it looks awesome. Most of those CG stiffness are now much more natural(not 2D standards thou) and the background detail (the port fortress)and movement plus I-401 transformation are gorgeous...in CG. Couple with some comedy relieve (oh Takao, Takao) this episode is a brilliant showcase of CG. So If there is still any CG-atheist out there that still have problems with it, ermmmm, well theres no point convincing.

Plot wise , the political scene are finally coming in, with the oh-so-natural Navy-Army rivalry.I have to say there are few points thrat deviates from the manga, and now that the two Kongou-class battleship have arrive, where is the Hakugei JMSDF super-sub? where are the crew? and where's the supreme flagship of the Fog, the mighty battleship Yamato?(she was seen in the op of the 1st ep. Overall now that I have more faith in the animation, the storyline may worry me more. Now can somebody put up a non-screw up episode online please?

My Submarine can''t be this cute.

Darklight0303 said:


Not just that they cut out a whole ton of scenes.

Gr33ncar said:
i really hope takao becomes apart of gunzous fleet

Takuan_Soho said:
This was one of those episodes that could have sunk an otherwise promising show, instead it transcended it (yes the pun was intended).

Properly handling the emotions at the cemetery could have been hackneyed, but by having the MC answer Iona's questions honestly was perfect. We had the expected betrayal by the government, but neither side acted like idiots, so good there. The discussion between the other two fog warshps was also both interesting and suggestive for the future. And most importantly Takao's defection could have been overdone, but her comedic reaction to the book and then the reaction of 400 and 402 were both great and boded well for future episodes, she didn't overreact to knowing that 401 was under attack, but acted in character, namely she expects him to win because she gets the bigger picture.

I have to say that a week or so into this cour while I had a couple of shows I thought were entertaining, I didn't think that any show would prove to be that exciting. This week proved me wrong, 4 shows (this, Galileo, Gintsune and Yowamushi) all stepped up big time, showing that they have the chops to maintain through the season. All of these may flop from here on out, but for now I have 4 shows to look forward to, and for that I am grateful.

Takuan_Soho said:


Agree. It also made this episode seem to fly by. It was already halfway done before I noticed. I liked that they explained Chihaya's reasoning, both in knowing they had the canon and that they had to have a submarine with them. It was also a good move to have Takao explain why she was defeated and have the other Fog leader both chastising her for her arrogance AND suspecting that there was more to Takao's behavior than Takao had explained. I LOVE shows with smart good guys and bad guys (which is really rarer than one thinks - stupidity is so much easier to write).



My guess is that his father felt the same way about the ships which is why Iona was willing to defect (at the cost of her memory (which probably ensured her loyalty to the Fog). That Chihaya sees them first as intelligent beings is going to be the key to this series. Of course the biggest question is who is leading the Fog, because they are not self-directing units, someone had to instruct them on this course. That I believe will be the main drama of this show.

I have to admit that after last week I had very low expectations of the show. That 2 out of 3 crew members were women, and all the ships mental units were women I expected an eventual harem series. But the writing and directing of this episode was superb. Great time management, and as I said above, funniest beginning to a harem (Takao viewing humans as "units") makes this show much better than I thought. Looking forward to seeing if they can maintain the momentum.

-ShadowClaw- said:
Also it as a nice change of pace that this whole episode was dedicated for the entire battle especially at this early in the series because most anime series have there battles to about 30 sec to 2 min

ma_ko said:
Why only 12 episodes? :(

Takuan_Soho said:


On Takao. I would agree that it would be fast if she had a human personality, but remember that the mental modes aren't human. They don't have that much in the way of emotions: all they have is their "we are weapon" approach and a desire, similar to a weapon, to do away with the enemy as efficiently as possible. So three observations:

1) Emotionally they are children, so like children they can change their emotions on a pin drop.
2) Takao's change is also related to her belief in being a weapon. She lost, not only did she lose, but she lost when she had the overwhelming advantage. She realized that ship to ship it wasn't a contest, she should have won, but something blunted her as a weapon, and that was 401's captain. She now wants a Captain because she thinks it would both sharpen and polish her as a weapon.
3) Finally, the show has made several references that the mental modes have spent too much time in human form, and this was causing some issues: so on top of Takao having the emotions of a child, the excitement of possibly being perfected as a weapon, she also has teenage hormones running through her system. And on top of that don't forget that for a Ship, failure is death. Takao failed, but Gunzou saved her life as romantically as Tarzan rescuing Jane. No wonder she swooned Tsundered

Monad said:
Translation
Old guy: - i want your loli moe ship.
mai guy - NO! Loli is mine!