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Dec 3, 2008 4:06 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I guess I'll make a discussion for this episode too while I'm at it. I'm still wondering why no one's been discussing these episodes. Once again, GREAT episode, 5/5

Dec 3, 2008 5:06 PM
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I think nobody's discussing them because only a few people follow the raws. +1 for ability to understand spoken Japanese.

If I may coin the term "Tokuchowned". Tokuchi played every single person in the show (other than himself) for a fool in at least one way here, being a badass the whole time. The soundtrack was really electrifying in a couple of points here. I was totally sucked into it. I ended up laughing my head off when the owner was all "Yamero! Yamerooooooo!!" at the tv. Although I don't understand why Tokuchi's contract still went up after the Mariners coach forfieted the game.

21 billion yen. Here's some gamblanime perspective; he's now earning about 3-4 times the entire wager of Akagi's match vs. Washizu (adjusted for inflation), about 18 times the wager of Kaiji's battle vs. Hyodo. Tokuchi is going to end up owning freaking Japan if this continues.
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Torisunanohokori said:
21 billion yen. Here's some gamblanime perspective; he's now earning about 3-4 times the entire wager of Akagi's match vs. Washizu (adjusted for inflation), about 18 times the wager of Kaiji's battle vs. Hyodo. Tokuchi is going to end up owning freaking Japan if this continues.


It's 2.1 billion yen.
Dec 4, 2008 3:58 AM
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"Ni-ju-ichi-oku", which the narrator said, means 21 billion, but the numbers don't add up. Odd.

The final figure was given in man yen, or 10000s, and the digits added to that were 213500. Adding 4 digits, that's 2,135,000,000. Wonder if that was a mis-written line or if they're missing a digit?

Edit: Nevermind, I rechecked my terms and oku is a hundred million. Still a lot though. It'll probably be more than the other two by the time the series ends at this rate.
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Dec 7, 2008 8:48 PM
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Well I watched it RAW and it was pretty darn awesome. Can't wait for the sub to come out.

Dec 11, 2008 7:49 AM
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wow,Tokuchi never stop impressing me.
Dec 11, 2008 7:59 AM
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Yeah, subs say 2.1 billion and not 21. But that's still 23 million American dollars. For some real perspective, nearly 3 million is the average American major league salary (for Yankees, twice that). Pettitte, the highest paid pitcher for the Yankees this year, makes 16 million.

And I have a feeling Toua's just going to make more.
Dec 11, 2008 11:45 AM
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Good ending, I was waiting to see Tokuchi act on his claim and he didn't disappoint. Tokuchi has a way with the human mind indeed.
Dec 11, 2008 12:09 PM
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A solid episode with the Akagi-esque turnabout that I come to know and love.

To put things in perspective, the Yankees just threw down this week the largest contract for a pitcher ever just recently by signing on C.C. Sabathia. 7 years, 161 million dollars. That's $23 million dollars a year right there. An eerie coincidence? I'd say so.

So at this very moment in the series, Toua is making the most ever even an American pitcher on a top flight team with a platinum budget is making. Sure there's no multi-year guarantee, but it can only go crazier from here.

I can only wonder if there will be a twist in the end that Toua will somehow zero out the contract on his own accord and fade into the sunset. This is totally conjecture, there's no looking into it more than that.
Dec 11, 2008 3:50 PM

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Awesome! Tokuchi ends up winning a shit ton of money from that match.
Dec 12, 2008 12:52 AM

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What. There's no way a rule like that exists. Until someone shows me sauce, I'm calling bullshit.
Dec 12, 2008 1:23 AM

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Those rules actually do exist.

In MLB Official Rules, which Japan Baseball rules are more or less adapted from:

Rule 2 (definitions)
A FORFEITED GAME is a game declared ended by the umpire-in-chief in favor of
the offended team by the score of 9 to 0, for violation of the rules.

Rule 10.03e (2)
If a regulation game is forfeited, the official scorer shall include the record of
all individual and team actions up to the time of forfeit. If the winning team by
forfeit is ahead at the time of forfeit, the official scorer shall enter as winning
and losing pitchers the players who would have qualified as the winning and
losing pitchers if the game had been called at the time of forfeit. If the winning
team by forfeit is behind or if the score is tied at the time of forfeit, the official
scorer shall not enter a winning or losing pitcher. If a game is forfeited before
it becomes a regulation game, the official scorer shall include no records and
shall report only the fact of the forfeit.

Dec 12, 2008 4:08 AM
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Wow. That's crazy. A rule like that actually exists? The writers of One Outs really must have done their homework.

Anyway... I'm still loving the show. The only problem I have is with the bit after the end credits. The audio is always out of sync. Why is that?
Dec 12, 2008 5:38 AM

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Nicely executed. As expected from the creators of Kaiji and Akagi.
Dec 12, 2008 10:41 AM

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Too bad those umpires don't know all the rules. You can disqualify a team for purposefully elongating the game.

4.15 A game may be forfeited to the opposing team when a team—
(b) Employs tactics palpably designed to delay or shorten the game;
Dec 12, 2008 11:03 AM

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Kojima did though. He mentions that in episode 8.
Dec 12, 2008 11:30 AM

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evirob said:
Rule 2 (definitions)
A FORFEITED GAME is a game declared ended by the umpire-in-chief in favor of
the offended team by the score of 9 to 0, for violation of the rules.

Rule 10.03e (2)
If a game is forfeited before
it becomes a regulation game, the official scorer shall include no records and
shall report only the fact of the forfeit.

Madness. (in b4 sparta)

Seems like the best strategy for the manager at this point would be hiring an expert on the rules of baseball... or at least reading the rules himself. Some of these official rules are downright bureaucratic. :-P

Good episode, overall. The previous two have started to turn this series around.
Dec 12, 2008 11:33 AM

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megara said:


Anyway... I'm still loving the show. The only problem I have is with the bit after the end credits. The audio is always out of sync. Why is that?

B2E says it's the raw and there's nothing they can do. Not much other than "buy the manga, thanks for watching" in there anyway.
Dec 12, 2008 6:03 PM

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KEIKAKU DOORI
Dec 13, 2008 7:49 AM

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Awesome.
Dec 13, 2008 8:28 AM

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While I were having problems accepting One Outs in the beginning, it's starting to show just as much potencial as Kaiji and Akagi had. Watching Toua playing everyone into his palms, manipulating every aspect of the given situations and some rules, all of this while thinking outside the box and still coming up with his godlike prediction.

tl;dr: I'm gay for Toua.
Dec 14, 2008 6:41 PM

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ZoiQ said:
KEIKAKU DOORI
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Karura said:
ZoiQ said:
KEIKAKU DOORI



Kitcha said:
I'm gay for Toua.


Not there yet, but almost.


Dec 15, 2008 5:33 PM

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Avarice said:
Kitcha said:
I'm gay for Toua.


Not there yet, but almost.

You must be skipping the brainwash OP.

Dec 15, 2008 5:40 PM

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@_@
Dec 17, 2008 4:03 PM

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Picked up this show yesterday, it is really good. However, how does the sub release go?
Does it come random or is there a specific date for each episode? Just asking, since episode 11 have been released.
Dec 17, 2008 6:33 PM

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There's not a specific date. It comes out whenever B2E finishes it. Generally, though, it's been about a week in-between releases, and their last release was 6 days ago.
Dec 18, 2008 6:35 AM
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Can´t wait how it will go on!

Toua is terrifying =D
Dec 18, 2008 12:34 PM

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naikou said:
There's not a specific date. It comes out whenever B2E finishes it. Generally, though, it's been about a week in-between releases, and their last release was 6 days ago.


Okay. Thanks for the heads up=]
Dec 26, 2008 5:46 AM
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Kinda irrelevant to the actual episode, but I found Toua's talk about the true meaning of apology a little contradictory to their own staff's mistake in Ep 4 (the part about announcing one out instead of no out) that was highlighted at the end of Ep 8... LOL.
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"Yamero! Yameroooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!" ROFL! ^^

Torisunanohokori said:
...Tokuchi played every single person in the show (other than himself) for a fool in at least one way here, being a badass the whole time. The soundtrack was really electrifying in a couple of points here. I was totally sucked into it...
Yeh he pretty much has!!! Also while I like the soundtrack, there seems to be a lot of repetition... or maybe I'm so engrossed I'm not picked up on the different pieces of the background music...

Lol at everyones reaction when Arai got depressed, and the ball in the face was unexpected :P
megara said:
Wow. That's crazy. A rule like that actually exists? The writers of One Outs really must have done their homework..
Well Toua seemed so confident, that he wouldn't pay a penny while in return getting paid for the game, that I knew some loop hole would come into play. But that still didn't make it any less awesome!!!

Awwww I just love those salary calculations!!!!!! XP
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2.1 billion yen...2.1 billion yen....one more time 2.1 billion yen.
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This show is really interesting but still when I compare "Kaiji" with "Akagi" and "one outs", "Kaiji" scores better. "Kaiji" allowed the main character to lose at times so the cliffhangers were more interesting in comparison to "Akagi" and "One Outs". However, "Akagi" and "One Outs" give you the pleasure of winning all the time :D


Sep 3, 2009 11:27 PM

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obscure rules ftw XD
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megara said:
Wow. That's crazy. A rule like that actually exists? The writers of One Outs really must have done their homework.


I love this ANIME,,interesting "rules"
Oct 13, 2009 6:21 AM

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Holly Cow!!..*gawking* i don't believe there is a possibility the result of that game will be like that!

This guy is amazing
May 29, 2010 7:23 PM

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Goddamn, Toua's earning a hell of a lot! 2 billion+!
Jun 1, 2010 9:34 AM
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Awesome episode as usual
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Jun 19, 2010 10:25 AM

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Great episode, awesome how he turned hid debt into even more money.
Looking very much forward to the next "battles".
I probably regret this post by now.
Feb 28, 2011 11:36 AM

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Toua is genious alright.Great ep!

"Only the dead have seen the end of war".
~Plato~
Apr 20, 2011 12:47 PM

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wow,Tokuchi never stop impressing me.


The way he was able to plan that all out sure is impressive, the pitchers must be so relieved that the game was forfeited.
Apr 20, 2011 10:01 PM

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I laughed so hard when I saw that owner's face.Toua is a genius.

Sep 8, 2011 8:56 PM

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Toua is going to bankrupt that old asshole lol
Jul 19, 2012 5:13 PM

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Sometimes, you just need to sit back and enjoy a series where the main character just can't lose.

Devious bastard. I love him. :D
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I could not stop laughing at the end when I saw Toua's salary now. The man is bloody brilliant.

Excellent episode.
Jan 15, 2013 8:25 PM

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What a boss, Tokuchi takes the ball, takes some psychological tendencies, and dishes it right into that guy's face. Rain? Screw that. OH, and the result was interesting indeed.

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BEE-YOO-TI-FUL
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This episode is brillant!
Man Toua is a genius! He fooled every single guy! Even the owner oh snap! And dat billion dollars that is justt awesome!
So now the rule for baseball is they forfeit the game, and the records are erased, and Toua got a perfect game. That is called right there a mindfuck.
100/5
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