| Madoka would actually make me watch TV every once in a while. |
| Great, now we'll see a bunch of kiddos running around yelling how awesome Deadman wonderland is. And for the record, Deadman Wonderland was shit. I kinda expected it would be a show they'd air though. And I suppose there are worse shows they could have aired but hey. |
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| So they would like to air Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt sometime down the road. Good luck getting it past the censors. |
_fantasticmrfox said: So they would like to air Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt sometime down the road. Good luck getting it past the censors. That wouldn't be hard at all...just watch an episode of Boondocks. |
| WTF O_o.......I just had dream 2 days ago that adult swim bring back Toonami. Ii'm going to missed watching Durarara live on tv. |
| I have poorly English grammar, so for give me. I still learning. -....Loading..... |
| Deadman wonderland is a pretty enjoyable show. Loose ending, but whatever. Look forward to watching it in engrish. |
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| WHOA! BLEACH! |
| I'll be watching both just to support the return of Toonami. <3 |
| I'm in the UK but I hope it this does well and gets good ratings! |
| Adult swim went bad a long time ago. Never really watched anything on CN to begin with except Star Wars CW First I ever heard of Toonami was hearing about DBZ dubbed and what not but I watched the original soz. Would be interesting to see P&S dubbed though |
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| wow, adult swim must be pretty desperate for viewers if they're actually planning to revive their anime block...they've been ignoring it for years and rerunning the same shows in endless repetition to the point where they've lost all their viewers and now they actually plan to start running new anime again? too little, too late...most people stopped watching years ago (including me)......also, most real anime fans would rather watch subs anyways, dubs (in general) are usually unwatchable to me - it's like viewing a paint by numbers version of a great piece of art... |
octal9May 22, 2012 12:25 AM
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octal9 said: most real anime fans would rather watch subs anyways, dubs (in general) are usually unwatchable to me - it's like viewing a paint by numbers version of a great piece of art... While I agree that subs are much better than dubs, watching subs does not make you anymore of an anime fan than someone who watches dubs. |
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| I feel bad for all the kids today that watch Toonami. They'll never experience a promo this good, especially with the lineup they have now. |
KuroDubZeroMay 22, 2012 4:17 PM
mitch3315 said: While I agree that subs are much better than dubs, watching subs does not make you anymore of an anime fan than someone who watches dubs. Well said. KuroDubZero said: I feel bad for all the kids today that watch Toonami. They'll never experience a promo this good, especially with the line up they have now. I'm pretty sure most of the time they'll be playing old series, so it's likely they'll use their good promos. |
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mitch3315 said: octal9 said: most real anime fans would rather watch subs anyways, dubs (in general) are usually unwatchable to me - it's like viewing a paint by numbers version of a great piece of art... While I agree that subs are much better than dubs, watching subs does not make you anymore of an anime fan than someone who watches dubs. This, I can understand why subs are generally preferred because they do tend to be better (not in all cases), but watching them over dubs doesn't make you any more of a fan than the person that watched the show dubbed, they just liked a different version than you. That is one of the most asinine misconceptions with anime fans that to be a "real" fan you have to watch the sub. I don't mean to offend anyone because I watch most shows subbed, but to condemn others for liking a different adaption than you, whether it be an English dub, Spanish dub, Korean dub, Arabic dub, Italian dub, or whatever is just wrong. |
| Deadman Wonderland. Deadman. Wonderland. Deadland Wonderman. Horribly bad. Go away. |
I have my own anime blog. It's called Anime Viking. Hope you'll you read it! |
| Not a good lineup IMO. But maybe when they get more money they can get Naruto from Disney though I doubt anyone watches the dub anyways. |
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_fantasticmrfox said: So they would like to air Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt sometime down the road. Good luck getting it past the censors. Look at most of the shows Adult Swim already has. With shows like Metalocalypse up on there it wouldn't even be a challenge. |
| Dubs, subs, pubs. This is rather disappointing about how most of you are just bickering what's completely unwatchable. Dubbing companies are trying to run a business here, and they just try their best to entertain its fans. Even though I prefer to watch subs because the Japanese cast and their voices have more feeling and drama than the dubs, dubs exist for people who well aren't as fortunate as many of us with decent computers or with the ability to understand English subs as well. I have a friend in Mexico whose gardner wanted to watch Saint Seiya, but has horrible English understanding because their government wouldn't provide the education to do English. I had to go out and find a complete set that's completely Spanish dubbed for my friend. Long story short, quit bitching and just watch what you want to watch. Everyone has their own preferences. |
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GigaSPX said: Long story short, quit bitching and just watch what you want to watch. Everyone has their own preferences. Only if it was that easy,but the arrogant high-horse riding fans might not make it that easy. |
| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
| Okay,Deadman Wonderland is just one show.One show will not nuke Toonami's return.True,the Deadman Wonderland anime turned mediocre after the first episode and went into becoming complete crap after |
| I wish they were approaching the return of Toonami differently, but at least it's nice to know that we get to see T.O.M. in action again. |
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GigaSPX said: I have a friend in Mexico whose gardner wanted to watch Saint Seiya, but has horrible English understanding because their government wouldn't provide the education to do English. I had to go out and find a complete set that's completely Spanish dubbed for my friend. Was he illiterate as well? /blah |
| This story was to set an example about some positives of pros. I don't know the story about him too well though. If you're saying my post was illiterate, that's not even worth the matter of debating. |
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| there's no way some of you have any idea how this works. there's not a lot of funds to work with, they can't just simply slap steins;gate onto the lineup. you also have to consider adult swim's fanbase, casual viewers, the majority not being anime fans even if they watch and enjoy anime on the channel; so it's natural that they air anime with light-weighted concepts and action appeal. i think deadman wonderland would be a good start to toonami, however, i don't expect to see something like madoka aired anytime soon if ever. |
| Now that I think about it... Toonami broadcasting Deadman Wonderland, as bad as it may be, isn't the worst thing they could have done. Remember when Toonami aired between 1998-2004? Remember when the block was at it's peak in popularity? Well, I hate to say it, but during those 6 years, they've had to work with some of the worst English dubs in anime history (Sailor Moon, Cardcaptors, etc.), that would make any hardcore fan spit in disgust and yet they not only got the ratings they needed, but they turned these into some of the most popular anime at the time. They, at that time, turned lead into gold, with the help of us, who gave them a chance. And because of this, they gave us some very good anime with better treatment (at least in my opinion), such as Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, and Evangelion. This was only possible because we gave them a chance! Point is, even if most of us are disappointed, we have to give them the chance we gave them in the past in order to get some quality anime back on TV. Am I pleased with the choices they've made? Not really, no. But will I shut them down completely because of it? No, because I remember how glorious that block was and I now realize at my age, that I, among countless others just like me, helped turn Toonami into a legend. So, even if you really hated DMW, or you had your hopes up that DBZ would come back on the block, help support Toonami anyway. The least you could do is just turn the TV for a little while. Use it as background noise, mute it, chat with some buddies online or something. They don't care, as long as that TV is on, you're supporting them and bringing them steps closer to turning the block into something great. There's that saying that you gotta dig through the crap to get to the good stuff, right? That pretty much applies here, I guess. (Sorry if it sounds incredibly sappy, but for the fate of anime on US TV, this is kind of a big deal. And yes, I'm guilty of complaining, but if I want my wishes to become reality, I have to help Toonami.) |
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| There is one very important thing you are all missing about this. SHINY SHINY is going to be on American television. |
| Do any of you think that this will last long? Let's face it, anime was cool back in the early 2000s but now the vast majority of people in America don't care that much about it anymore. And the fact that T.V. is now considered an irrelevant form of getting entertainment is a bad sign. Also, to those people who complain that DBZ and Naruto aren't in the block, I hate you. |
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| I liked Deadman Wonderland >_> I say godspeed Toonami, hope it goes well. |
DrGonzo7 said: Do any of you think that this will last long? Let's face it, anime was cool back in the early 2000s but now the vast majority of people in America don't care that much about it anymore. And the fact that T.V. is now considered an irrelevant form of getting entertainment is a bad sign. Also, to those people who complain that DBZ and Naruto aren't in the block, I hate you. If anime was a fad in the earlt 2000s(It's not even that far back tbh) then like a fad it can make a comeback and the thought of it working for a station that primarily just shows cartoons isn't a big logical leap. TV is only considered an irrelevant form for people that don't understand it is still the most profitable form because of the ads and viewers that show up to watch programs on a schedule. The internet, for those with fast enough speeds not non-crap PCs, might be able to find something to watch faster than channel surfing but doing so makes less money for the businesses involved. |
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Redfoxoffire said: There is one very important thing you are all missing about this. SHINY SHINY is going to be on American television. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-05-21/funimation-announces-deadman-wonderland-dub-cast Cast of the Deadmand Wonderland dub. I also found this on youtube: |
NanoZero said: Now that I think about it... Toonami broadcasting Deadman Wonderland, as bad as it may be, isn't the worst thing they could have done. Remember when Toonami aired between 1998-2004? Remember when the block was at it's peak in popularity? Well, I hate to say it, but during those 6 years, they've had to work with some of the worst English dubs in anime history (Sailor Moon, Cardcaptors, etc.), that would make any hardcore fan spit in disgust and yet they not only got the ratings they needed, but they turned these into some of the most popular anime at the time. They, at that time, turned lead into gold, with the help of us, who gave them a chance. And because of this, they gave us some very good anime with better treatment (at least in my opinion), such as Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, and Evangelion. This was only possible because we gave them a chance! Point is, even if most of us are disappointed, we have to give them the chance we gave them in the past in order to get some quality anime back on TV. Am I pleased with the choices they've made? Not really, no. But will I shut them down completely because of it? No, because I remember how glorious that block was and I now realize at my age, that I, among countless others just like me, helped turn Toonami into a legend. So, even if you really hated DMW, or you had your hopes up that DBZ would come back on the block, help support Toonami anyway. The least you could do is just turn the TV for a little while. Use it as background noise, mute it, chat with some buddies online or something. They don't care, as long as that TV is on, you're supporting them and bringing them steps closer to turning the block into something great. There's that saying that you gotta dig through the crap to get to the good stuff, right? That pretty much applies here, I guess. (Sorry if it sounds incredibly sappy, but for the fate of anime on US TV, this is kind of a big deal. And yes, I'm guilty of complaining, but if I want my wishes to become reality, I have to help Toonami.) That's pretty much the exact same thing they're doing now. Due to their low budget, this is the best they can do right now- they can barely afford to make new TOM animations with the current budget. But, with better ratings come more money, meaning more shows that will at some point replace Deadman Wonderland.They've expressed an interest in One Piece, Fairy Tail, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt, Gundam Wing, and Inuyasha: The Final Act, along with others (most likely some of the older series that used to air on Toonami but they couldn't get the rights to air them right off the bat), so we'll eventually get better shows. We just have to actually, ya know, watch. |
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BULLDOG266 said: You're making a grave error. This isn't the toonami of the nineties that pulled in the ratings that let them air shows like Sailor Moon and Hamtaro. This is a new toonami, on a network that's been barely fighting death. They don't have the luxury of being experimental, not yet at least, so most of the stuff you mentioned couldn't happen.Dear Toonami, will you forsaken yourself once more? REALLY? Deadman Wonderland? Yes it is/WAS "good" (using that term VERY LOOSELY) but not "good" enough to be shown on your channel. Want views and pretty much a guarantee from your loyal fanbase that you will never be canceled again? Show the following programs : Steins;Gate - could work, but it appeals to the Durarara!! audience type, and doesn't fit the toonami image. Madoka Magica - wouldn't make it because AS viewers would write it off as a "girly show." Bakemonogatari - wouldn't make it because it doesn't have enough fighting/ Nisemonogatari - assuming the same as the prequel. Mirai Nikki - could work, but wouldn't in an early revival. Shakugan no Shana - definitely could work, and fits Toonami's image. Angel Beats! - could have a small chance of working. Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? - comedy based, not a toonami thing. That should do for maybe about a month or two? I know dubbing is a bitch a money is a pain to grasp onto, but getting those shows on would really set Toonami forward. |
DamonashuMay 26, 2012 3:25 AM
somefakeusername said: damn it screw you people deadman wonderland had instant action since minute 2 that anime was awesome and yes steins gate was awesome too but watch chaos head too if you're into steins gate No to that first statement. No to watching chaos head...ever. (steins gate was glorious though) |
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somefakeusername said: damn it screw you people deadman wonderland had instant action since minute 2 that anime was awesome and yes steins gate was awesome too but watch chaos head too if you're into steins gate ^I'm deafened by the sound of butthurt. I hope better shows are added to the lineup. If so, I might tune in. CN has been dieing for years now. Not being to get Naruto Shippuden cause Nick has it, and they lost DBZ to Nick as well don't help the livelihood of CN. |
| Very Disappointed in the AS/Toonami line-up. If they weren't going to air a bunch of "New" shows, they should have ran the old shows that got the buzz going in the first place. Gundam Wing, DBZ, Outlaw Star, The Big O. Those are what ppl were watching Toonami for last time. The shows they are are airing now (excluding "new" ones) are the same shows that NO ONE was watching on AS. Personally, I think it was a stupid idea in the first place. The Toonami we loved couldn't work today. We should just enjoy the happy memories we had from 97 to 08. Or in my case 97-03. |
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| I have a question real quick here.... what the heck is so horrible about Deadman Wonderland??? o_0 |
| ~Izzy Zazztacular~ |
typhlosionwolf said: I have a question real quick here.... what the heck is so horrible about Deadman Wonderland??? o_0 It's basically Elfen Lied in an even worse format, which is a stunning feat in itself. It places emphasis on gore and what not instead of actual substance and the writing and everything else about the show is very bad. Not to mention the many reports of it deviating from the source material and bastardizing the manga in many ways. I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's worse ever material or anything, but it's still awful. A 2/10 on my list, with a 3-4 from others being generous. |
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Damonashu said: BULLDOG266 said: You're making a grave error. This isn't the toonami of the nineties that pulled in the ratings that let them air shows like Sailor Moon and Hamtaro. This is a new toonami, on a network that's been barely fighting death. They don't have the luxury of being experimental, not yet at least, so most of the stuff you mentioned couldn't happen.Dear Toonami, will you forsaken yourself once more? REALLY? Deadman Wonderland? Yes it is/WAS "good" (using that term VERY LOOSELY) but not "good" enough to be shown on your channel. Want views and pretty much a guarantee from your loyal fanbase that you will never be canceled again? Show the following programs : Steins;Gate - could work, but it appeals to the Durarara!! audience type, and doesn't fit the toonami image. Madoka Magica - wouldn't make it because AS viewers would write it off as a "girly show." Bakemonogatari - wouldn't make it because it doesn't have enough fighting/ Nisemonogatari - assuming the same as the prequel. Mirai Nikki - could work, but wouldn't in an early revival. Shakugan no Shana - definitely could work, and fits Toonami's image. Angel Beats! - could have a small chance of working. Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? - comedy based, not a toonami thing. That should do for maybe about a month or two? I know dubbing is a bitch a money is a pain to grasp onto, but getting those shows on would really set Toonami forward. Indeed. There's plenty of more popular stuff that hasn't been aired first that would fit American tastes. Remember SciFi channel's animondays? Nobody watched it, but they ran Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and Gundam 00. Toonami's best bet if they can afford it (that is a big IF), would be action shows like Tiger and Bunny, or Panty and Stocking. Kore wa Zombie might have a chance... What absolutely won't make it are any shows animated by Shaft. Bake/Nisemogatari, Madoka, and Zetsubou Sensei are great shows, but they are difficult to follow even if you can speak/read Japanese. Remember, people don't have the luxury of pausing live TV to read all the text that flashes on the screen. |
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| also, during the mid-episode break for Casshern Sins.... there were three commercials for Trojan condoms. THREE! I know this is during late night TV, but AS might want to reconsider their advertisers as they grow their Toonami following. |
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OatBob said: Damonashu said: BULLDOG266 said: You're making a grave error. This isn't the toonami of the nineties that pulled in the ratings that let them air shows like Sailor Moon and Hamtaro. This is a new toonami, on a network that's been barely fighting death. They don't have the luxury of being experimental, not yet at least, so most of the stuff you mentioned couldn't happen.Dear Toonami, will you forsaken yourself once more? REALLY? Deadman Wonderland? Yes it is/WAS "good" (using that term VERY LOOSELY) but not "good" enough to be shown on your channel. Want views and pretty much a guarantee from your loyal fanbase that you will never be canceled again? Show the following programs : Steins;Gate - could work, but it appeals to the Durarara!! audience type, and doesn't fit the toonami image. Madoka Magica - wouldn't make it because AS viewers would write it off as a "girly show." Bakemonogatari - wouldn't make it because it doesn't have enough fighting/ Nisemonogatari - assuming the same as the prequel. Mirai Nikki - could work, but wouldn't in an early revival. Shakugan no Shana - definitely could work, and fits Toonami's image. Angel Beats! - could have a small chance of working. Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? - comedy based, not a toonami thing. That should do for maybe about a month or two? I know dubbing is a bitch a money is a pain to grasp onto, but getting those shows on would really set Toonami forward. Indeed. There's plenty of more popular stuff that hasn't been aired first that would fit American tastes. Remember SciFi channel's animondays? Nobody watched it, but they ran Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and Gundam 00. Toonami's best bet if they can afford it (that is a big IF), would be action shows like Tiger and Bunny, or Panty and Stocking. Kore wa Zombie might have a chance... What absolutely won't make it are any shows animated by Shaft. Bake/Nisemogatari, Madoka, and Zetsubou Sensei are great shows, but they are difficult to follow even if you can speak/read Japanese. Remember, people don't have the luxury of pausing live TV to read all the text that flashes on the screen. Plus what are the chances of them airing shows that aren't dubbed like the Monogataris? Also, you just know that if it gets dubbed, Guilty Crown will end up on there sooner or later. |
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WiikendWarrior84 said: The shows they are are airing now (excluding "new" ones) are the same shows that NO ONE was watching on AS. Lol wut? Bleach constantly brings in the ratings. Why do you think it's been on the air for years, and at the start of the lineup? FMA: Brotherhood, GitS: SAC, and Cowboy Bebop in particular are also some of the more popular stuff they've had over the years. What are you smoking? I don't know about others, but I never watched Toonami for Gundam Wing, Outlaw Star, or The Big O. |
| I agree that those shows aren't what brought in viewers prior to 2003. You know what did? Being on after school on weekday afternoons. Toonami's time-slot and popular shows including Gundam Wing were what got those other shows their fans. But those shows are what Toonami fans would watch and feel nostalgic about. And while those anime on AS like CowboyBB, Bleach, FMA and GitS are popular, they do not bring in new viewers or keep viewers. It's clear that AS is still testing the water with the Toonami revival but I don't expect a full support of it any time soon on their behalf. I certainly wish they would bring in something else besides just 2 new shows that are frankly hit or miss. |
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WiikendWarrior84 said: It's clear that AS is still testing the water with the Toonami revival but I don't expect a full support of it any time soon on their behalf. I certainly wish they would bring in something else besides just 2 new shows that are frankly hit or miss. They've gone on record saying they have very little money for this, so little even that they don't have enough to bring Sara in. I think it's good that they even got two new shows. Not sure about Casshern Sins since I'm just not familiar with the series, but Deadman Wonderland was a good choice for the time being as a likely-cheap broadcast with a good hook and a lot of good action, even if its writing veers off course a lot. |
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