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May 20, 2012 10:09 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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ICE CREAM 5/5
May 20, 2012 10:26 AM
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Right after the meeting last ep., the two are having conversation. W. no OP.

To have some rose color (fun)?

Report with sister. "Forbidden sentence"?? Not "Hero story"? more info. needed.

Librarian teacher is the writer for first volume of Hyouka? And she was the leader of the club 2nd year?

So his theory was almost perfect, and the leader of the argument was a "sacrifice" (nominated to the argument). Hyouka was "useless dajyare?" "Ice Cream" "I Scream"??

So she cried because of Hyouka's meaning (be strong). Survival the fittest? To die while living is painful.

So it's time to write it.

No ED, either. He's wondering why his sister wanted him to get to lit. club.
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May 20, 2012 10:36 AM
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tsubasalover said:


Librarian teacher is the writer for first volume of Hyouka? And she was the leader of the club 2nd year?

she is 2nd volume writer
May 20, 2012 11:04 AM
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zimno said:
tsubasalover said:


Librarian teacher is the writer for first volume of Hyouka? And she was the leader of the club 2nd year?

she is 2nd volume writer

Oh, really? I thought I heard 1st.
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May 20, 2012 11:08 AM
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Well, it seems that there's no OP song, oh well. And the anthology continues...



Middle intermission quote:
When the sun grows its hottest, or the day seems to reach its longest


It also seems that the word/title of the series Hyouka is a


Quite a difficult mystery, isn't it? and to conclude:

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May 20, 2012 11:14 AM
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No op ? maybe there will be new op and ed
May 20, 2012 6:23 PM
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Good episode,Ice Cream

So in the end Oreki theory wasnt that far from reality....just that the reality was even colder(like real life)

First intereting conversation between Oreki and Fukube as Oreki wants to get his life less gray,and this mysteries can be a way.

I must say his sister seems like a big troll i really want to see her XD

So the librarian was the person that right the second volume,and she told them how things really happen....i must say as expected of KyoAni as I loved the animation as she told it.

So the theory was almost correct beyond 3 things:
1.He didnt wanted to be leader was forced too.
2.There was a big accident that caused his suspension
3.And that he didnt sacrifice himself...he was sacrifice....

Also the meaning of Hyoka.....I Scream.....and is really what this world is about,if you are weak you get stumped,used,sacrifice,so you always most be strong no matter what if no....you will just be like a rabbit being feed to the wolfs.

Watching Eru cry was sad T__T
At least she got her remember why she cry an he can put her uncle to rest...

Well in the end good episode this mystery is over...or is it?? I feel there is still way more to it.
Next episode seems interesting....lets wait for it!!
May 20, 2012 6:26 PM
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No op ? maybe there will be new op and ed


Yup yup, they already announced a new OP and ED, but I'm not sure if they already change it after only 5 episodes... I love the current OP very much!

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Well in the end good episode this mystery is over...or is it?? I feel there is still way more to it.
Next episode seems interesting....lets wait for it!!


Indeed, I feel like there is still more, but I think that's all to the story... :S
And the next episode looks REALLY interesting!
I really love how the show the story of what happened 45 years ago. It's was fun to watch the young librarian walking in the scenes. :)

I-ce scream. I would like try a realy hyouka someday.

Hyouka is really a interesting series! And I just love how Oreki is unique :D
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May 20, 2012 6:28 PM
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He solves the entire mystery!
Hyouka is official one of my favorite anime this season :D

I hope that I can enjoy the next mystery just as much
May 20, 2012 6:28 PM

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OMFG it was actually really good!

and the classic music inserted in this...so good. soo good
May 20, 2012 6:33 PM

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Hmm wasn't expecting them to finish it so soon guess this was just one of many story arcs?,as for the conclusion i guess it was alright was just hoping for something crazier i guess haha like when his sis told him about the taboo it reminded me of Another how Kouichi's dad would talk about the class and stuff.
May 20, 2012 6:34 PM

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fantastic, truly fantastic
May 20, 2012 6:44 PM

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That was faster than expected to conclude this arc.... I wonder what's in store for us now
May 20, 2012 6:45 PM

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no OP or ED :(

....but FUCK, houtarou really is a genius
i couldnt believe how amazingly thought up his theory was from last episode, but to think that he was pretty much dead accurate about everything?

so he even ended up solving the sekitani jun incident, which ended with the ominous pun:
hyouka = ice cream = I scream

cant wait to see some more insane mysteries thrown at the group, i absolutely love seeing houtarou theorize and tear through mysteries

AMAZING series

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May 20, 2012 6:52 PM

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Awesome episode; likely the best so far, the way Oreki broke down everything was great again he really is a genius, but also in terms of character development i like how he is starting to question his own life; how he is slowly changing through the developments, the mystery itself wasn't that huge, but like i said before on previous episode forums, the fact that the mysteries are down to earth make it better; also i really like the fact that the mystery "ended" because that just makes you question what else is going to happen, now without being pessimistic and saying it will drag out; I'll have the optimistic thought that the best has yet to come, after all shows like Steins; Gate proved that "slow" starts mean nothing.
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The mystery isnt fully resolved. For instance, who burned the old school building? Why did Shitanda´s uncle disappear? Who was behind the school rebellion? What is the connection of Oreki´s sister with the classic´s club story?

Lets remember that this was a successful light novel, published by Kodokawa and picked upby the director of the animation of the Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi.

This on itself, along side the animation, should tell as right away that there is a lot of material to work with in this story. People who complain about it being boring, I am sorry if I offend anyone, tend to be those who have never thought themselves the meaning of build up, and have become all to accustomed to either instant gratification thorough weirdness, violence or fan service. By being rather a conventional story in many ways, Hyouka is unconventional for the medium. THE CHARACTERS DONT FIT THE USUAL STEREOTYPES. They really dont. Comparisons to K-On arise from the simple fact that to many, the only instance of a story taking place in an ordinary setting following a slow pace are slice of lifes, the difference between them and Hyouka being, that Hyouka isnt drifting aimlessly, on the contrary, its a story with an overreaching arch we so often find in novels and dont get to see in TV.
May 20, 2012 7:14 PM
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azeriraz said:
That was faster than expected to conclude this arc....

Same here - not sure why, but I was expecting one more episode before Eru remembered why she cried.
May 20, 2012 7:16 PM

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Damn, this episode was great, Oreki suddenly started to think about himself, Fukube immediately reacted to that. Oreki got so worked up about the mystery in a way you wouldn't expect from him, Chitanda is changing him and I wonder if he knows to what an extent or if he noticed it at least.

I agree that the mystery isn't completely solved, two points: who was the real organizer and where and still why (or I already forgot it) did Sekitani disappear?
May 20, 2012 7:18 PM

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well that was surprisingly good
May 20, 2012 7:41 PM

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Recaps to insight scenes for Oreki and Satoshi was good. Otherwise I thought for the most part it was rather suspenseful. I think I can safely take back my feelings on the case from last episode since apparently it was actually a violent protest riot even, firing the buildings, no wonder he was expelled. I really liked the music during much of the episode. Visual trickery was intense kind of brutal even.
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May 20, 2012 7:41 PM

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Over 25-and-a-half minutes of raw, OP-less, ED-less content -- probably the best episode of the series so far.

I love bilingual wordplay. It was easy to figure out the moment he said "ice cream," but I wish I had paid more attention to the meaning of "hyouka" itself before this episode.

For a moment I predicted that the uncle had just screamed his lungs out at Chitanda when she asked him what "Hyouka" meant...that certainly would traumatize a child ~_~
May 20, 2012 7:44 PM

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I'm surprised that the mystery turned out so well. It would have been so much easier if they asked the librarian in the first place.
May 20, 2012 7:48 PM

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tsubasalover said:
zimno said:
tsubasalover said:


Librarian teacher is the writer for first volume of Hyouka? And she was the leader of the club 2nd year?

she is 2nd volume writer

Oh, really? I thought I heard 1st.

sry, i did not have enough words.
that preface(or postscript?) was written on second issue, by that teacher.
howevere, only the first issue has not been found yet.
so i just think other matters still have been unmentioned in the story.
May 20, 2012 7:50 PM

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Surprisingly short arc... considering that it's the synopsis.

Why no opening and ending? D:

This felt like a last episode for some reason. XD
May 20, 2012 7:51 PM

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I can only imagine that the mysteries get 10x more interesting from here on out. But holy shit I didn't even expect that. I thought that Hyouka only meant for Ice, not ice cream. The more we learn eh?

Can't wait for next weeks episode, see what kinda crime they commit.
May 20, 2012 7:54 PM
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I said it before (in this thread and in others even back in episode 4) and Ill say it again.

THE ARCH IS NOT OVER!!!!!
May 20, 2012 7:59 PM
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I thought that Hyouka only meant for Ice, not ice cream. The more we learn eh?


Hyou = Ice
Ka = dessert

Essentially what ice cream was used to be called, unlike the more used Engrish word aisu kurimu.

baff said:
I said it before (in this thread and in others even back in episode 4) and Ill say it again.

THE ARCH IS NOT OVER!!!!!


Yup. There will be recurring elements from this one coming back in later arcs.

Alright, up to the next book!
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May 20, 2012 8:07 PM

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Hmmmm....... That pun was interesting. And unexpected. But still a good twist nonetheless.

Plus, Hyouka being I scream? Makes PERFECT SENSE with the cover of Hyouka.
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May 20, 2012 8:13 PM

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Pretty good episode, the story got revealed at last.
May 20, 2012 8:18 PM

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the story got revealed at last.


Well part of it anyway :P
May 20, 2012 8:25 PM

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Ice Scream. I can't believe I didn't get that. Awesome arc. Can't wait to see what's next.

May 20, 2012 8:31 PM

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That was surprisingly better than expected.
May 20, 2012 8:38 PM

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They just had to pull the lamest pun of the book. The was a fine mystery, with quite the slow build up. The scene with the metaphorical wolves and rabbits was done nicely. There definitely seems to be more to the mystery, and watching it come together should be interesting.
May 20, 2012 8:38 PM

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I can't really find the right words to describe this episode, other then the fact of saying it was more then great. This is by far one of the best series i have seen in a while. I hope they can keep the pace up.

.......ICE CREAM.......good lord


May 20, 2012 8:46 PM

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Excellent episode for its setup, depiction visually and most of all the following,

One cannot deny the fear present in a little child as MOE as Eru was.

Houtarou’s hair in the following,

CANNOT BE DENIED! They need to be seen! Best messed up hair style in a while TBH. Good end depition IMO.

So far from what the sister said first being in Pristina:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristina
whom after checking it out where it is, no surprise anymore....thieves are common over there. Oh God! The terrible atrocities the minute they know you are foreign. Well yeah you do get mugged there a lot. Even beaten sometimes by corrupted cops there.

As it enchains the sister plans to go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarajevo
now that is Bosnia. Safer but still not stable too much depending where you are. Both of these used to be USSR.

So from this we can deduct the sister sure is taking loads of risks in traveling. Especially since she is Japanese.

That being said I said whaaaaaaaaaaat when the sister hung up. What I do deduct from there is the story along with "Kind Hero" are in fact fake and propaganda. Seems the sister knows the truth indeed. Might edit later.

BTW Here we Go Image Stitches and Pic Dumb in the BLOG:
http://ecchiking99.blogspot.ca/2012/05/hyouka-episode-5-image-stitches-and-pic.html
Most nice Houtarou and Youko ones.
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May 20, 2012 9:03 PM

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Is it just me, or is the only thing that comes out of Chitanda's mouth "desuka? desuka? desuka?"
May 20, 2012 9:10 PM

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Can somebody explain to me about the whole ice cream thing? I really don't get it. Why did such a pun make Chitanda cry?
May 20, 2012 9:17 PM

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Can somebody explain to me about the whole ice cream thing? I really don't get it. Why did such a pun make Chitanda cry?


Well say it to yourself, ice cream, i scream...not that hard, thus why Oreki said lame pun; as for why Chitanda cried i think she said it; its because she feared being "dead" while still alive; thus the whole animation with the rabbit being sacrificed while everyone turned away.
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That was rather impressive! I have to say that this was, hands down, the strongest episode this series has had. What an excellent backstory + now we know the origin of "Hyouka." The pacing was excellent.

I really enjoyed this... Bravo!
May 20, 2012 9:33 PM
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My god not 1 minutes was i bored there.
May 20, 2012 9:38 PM

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Is it just me, or is the only thing that comes out of Chitanda's mouth "desuka? desuka? desuka?"
It's a pun to go along with fact that Houtarou called Eru a curious mongrel/monger. Think desuka = "munch" and munch like she was eating up curiosity itself. A rather nice approach on this.

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kaarosu_318 said:
Can somebody explain to me about the whole ice cream thing? I really don't get it. Why did such a pun make Chitanda cry?


Well say it to yourself, ice cream, i scream...not that hard, thus why Oreki said lame pun; as for why Chitanda cried i think she said it; its because she feared being "dead" while still alive; thus the whole animation with the rabbit being sacrificed while everyone turned away.


I know it was a pun. It's not that hard to figure it out. Now I'm wondering about the "being 'dead' while still alive" part. What does that supposed to mean?
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kaarosu_318 said:
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kaarosu_318 said:
Can somebody explain to me about the whole ice cream thing? I really don't get it. Why did such a pun make Chitanda cry?


Well say it to yourself, ice cream, i scream...not that hard, thus why Oreki said lame pun; as for why Chitanda cried i think she said it; its because she feared being "dead" while still alive; thus the whole animation with the rabbit being sacrificed while everyone turned away.


I know it was a pun. It's not that hard to figure it out. Now I'm wondering about the "being 'dead' while still alive" part. What does that supposed to mean?


I just explained that also but...to phrase it in a different way from what i understood it to be is to be cast off, the uncle was "sacrificed" as was shown with that rabbit animation and was treated as the dead even though he was still alive since not one person gave him notice despite what occurred; thus the whole meaning, you are still breathing and alive but people treat you as if you died.
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That last scene with the dog catching the rabbit, while the other rabbits look away in indifference was just brilliantly done. Wonderfully animated and made quite an impact. Looking forward to the rest of the show!
May 20, 2012 9:45 PM

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Since the mystery is solved, what now? 16 eps left o-O.
May 20, 2012 9:48 PM

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Ardamaeus said:
Since the mystery is solved, what now? 16 eps left o-O.


Quite the optimist *sigh* T_T
May 20, 2012 9:51 PM

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Ardamaeus said:
Since the mystery is solved, what now? 16 eps left o-O.


We still don't know where her uncle ran off to, which is probably a bigger and harder-to-solve mystery.

It just struck me that Houtarou's sister is also abroad...I wonder if she'll play a role herself in the mystery?
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Quite the optimist *sigh* T_T


No dude, like, the summary pretty much said the anime was about solving the mystery they just solved in this episode. I don't know this series very well, so what is basically going to happen from here x.X? Are they going to get some clues about her uncle or something?
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We still don't know where her uncle ran off to, which is probably a bigger and harder-to-solve mystery.

It just struck me that Houtarou's sister is also abroad...I wonder if she'll play a role herself in the mystery?


Yeah, the uncle mystery is up in the air, so hopefully the series will progress to trying to solve that. If not, then I'm probably dropping this. Hyouka doesn't quite ooohhh and ahhh me like it did some folk.
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InfiniteDestiny said:
Quite the optimist *sigh* T_T


No dude, like, the summary pretty much said the anime was about solving the mystery they just solved in this episode. I don't know this series very well, so what is basically going to happen from here x.X? Are they going to get some clues about her uncle or something?


Thus you could be optimistic about the potential plot ideas; heck this image alone proves questions as to who is going to do what, etc



Not to mention i seriously don't think the mystery is over; its just a guess but i think they will all connect somehow in the end; like for example if they start "another" mystery it connects to the one just "solved"
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