Bomb attack and shooting in Norway

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Hoppy said:
Norway like a lot of Scandinavia has some really bad anarchist activity and the worst thing is that it's not widely known. No radical Muslim caused this at all.

Really? Well that's news to me >__>
Except for some louts like the blitzers, the odd house occupiers or some of the more extreme leftists, there's hardly any big groups of anarchists around. And certainly no one taking actions at a magnitude like this.

Jul 22, 2011 8:58 AM

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I blame eco-terrorists

You mean those environmentalists who are obsessed with "saving the planet"? I thought those only existed in Planetes!

Jul 22, 2011 9:11 AM

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Hoppy said:
Norway like a lot of Scandinavia has some really bad anarchist activity and the worst thing is that it's not widely known. No radical Muslim caused this at all.

Da hell, laughed my ass off. xD

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Jul 22, 2011 9:21 AM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

Apparently there was some gunfire at some Labour Party youth camp.

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Jul 22, 2011 9:23 AM

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You know who did it, probably some crazy fellow. No ulterior motives, just a crazy fellow.

Jul 22, 2011 9:31 AM

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Wow im surpriced.
My parents is close to oslo atm:/

Jul 22, 2011 9:32 AM

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Scud said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

Apparently there was some gunfire at some Labour Party youth camp.

Yes it happend right after the bomb attack.
Like the police weren't busy already >_<

I'm so glad i wasn't in Oslo today..

Jul 22, 2011 9:33 AM

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I've heard that Norway was one of the top countries in danger of terrorism.
Now, with my horrible memory and terribly vague interest in politics, I can't point my finger on exactly why. But regardless, I'm not surprised by the current happenings.

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Jul 22, 2011 9:34 AM

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Must be British royal family's doing. And I'm no kidding here, there was some interesting research of one russian journalist on the subject, and according to him the whole thing works like this: the British are pulling the strings behind the Americans, the Americans employ the islamists, the islamists recruit random people all over the world who do the actual job. And it was like that for decades already.

Anyway, hope there's as few casualties as possible and all the wounded people make it as well.

Jul 22, 2011 9:39 AM

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Well, The Guardian is implying Islamic extremists already. I can't imagine it's Mullah Krekar... he seemed to be under watch from the PST pretty strongly. Ghadaffi would probably be touting this if it was him. Norway is an odd target for Muslim extremism... doesn't really jive.

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Jul 22, 2011 9:43 AM

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SwanSoup said:
You know who did it, probably some crazy fellow. No ulterior motives, just a crazy fellow.

Pretty damn big bomb for a crazy guy though...

Norway is involved with Afghanistan which is a tenuous link but a link nonetheless.

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Jul 22, 2011 9:45 AM

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Beatnik said:

SwanSoup said:
You know who did it, probably some crazy fellow. No ulterior motives, just a crazy fellow.

Pretty damn big bomb for a crazy guy though...

Norway is involved with Afghanistan which is a tenuous link but a link nonetheless.

I still doubt it's Islamic Terrorism, eco-terrorists maybe since they were also tied to anarchist groups in Europe and they did set off a bomb in Switzerland.

Jul 22, 2011 9:48 AM

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Hoppy said:

Beatnik said:

SwanSoup said:
You know who did it, probably some crazy fellow. No ulterior motives, just a crazy fellow.

Pretty damn big bomb for a crazy guy though...

Norway is involved with Afghanistan which is a tenuous link but a link nonetheless.

I still doubt it's Islamic Terrorism, eco-terrorists maybe since they were also tied to anarchist groups in Europe and they did set off a bomb in nearby Sweden.

I'm keeping up to date via Guardian (as usual these days, their coverage of the phone-hacking has been great) and there's a post that explains the reasoning behind an extremist attack.

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Jul 22, 2011 9:49 AM

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Libya has also threaten to attack Europe earlier.

Jul 22, 2011 9:49 AM

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Chibi-Alice said:

Scud said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

Apparently there was some gunfire at some Labour Party youth camp.

Yes it happend right after the bomb attack.
Like the police weren't busy already >_<

I'm so glad i wasn't in Oslo today..

The man doing the shooting is apparently dressed in a police uniform. Four people have been killed so far according to this article (in norwegian): http://www.varden.no/nyheter/jeg-har-sett-fire-personer-bli-skutt-1.6379146

Jul 22, 2011 9:55 AM

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Libya has also threaten to attack Europe earlier.

Yeah, there's some speculation that it's an attack by Libya.

Jul 22, 2011 9:57 AM

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My condolences go to the victims and their close ones.

Fingers seem pointed at terrorists so far, so I guess it's a semi-normal occurrence?

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bottle said:
Libya has also threaten to attack Europe earlier.

Yeah, there's some speculation that it's an attack by Libya.

Actually, even going by extremist crazy thinking, why would Libya attack Norway, and in such a manner? That would make this an odd occurrence.

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Jul 22, 2011 9:57 AM

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Beatnik said:

Hoppy said:

Beatnik said:

SwanSoup said:
You know who did it, probably some crazy fellow. No ulterior motives, just a crazy fellow.

Pretty damn big bomb for a crazy guy though...

Norway is involved with Afghanistan which is a tenuous link but a link nonetheless.

I still doubt it's Islamic Terrorism, eco-terrorists maybe since they were also tied to anarchist groups in Europe and they did set off a bomb in nearby Sweden.

I'm keeping up to date via Guardian (as usual these days, their coverage of the phone-hacking has been great) and there's a post that explains the reasoning behind an extremist attack.

Yemen being mentioned, oh shit, hopefully this doesn't lead to a war there in the future. The US has eyes on that country since that ship got bombed, and when the US goes to war, some other NATO country joins in most like the UK.

Jul 22, 2011 10:00 AM

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The US has already been ramping up covert strikes against Yemen, but there won't be a "war" there in the traditional since. An attack like this wouldn't lead to one even if it was tied back to extremists in Yemen.

If this does get tied back to Libya, it just shows another reason the whole conundrum has been a mistake.

But we really have no clue yet. Let's not jump to conclusions.

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Jul 22, 2011 10:13 AM

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Really doubt it's Libya though. After all, they should be occupied enough with their own war, and it's not like the 5-6 or whatever F16s we contribute with is any big force in the action against them.
If anything, an action like this would only cause further antagonism towards the Libyan government with pretty much nothing to gain from their side.

But if it's just a random Islamist group wanting to make a ruckus to tell they're still alive, then that makes more sense. After all, Norway should be one of the easier targets, what with our all around lax security. Even if we're not among the "Axis of evil" along with the US, Britain and Israel, we are at least mostly supporting them, and above all, a easy target.

Plus, the prime minister was scheduled to hold a speech at that AUF summer camp. So maybe the whole deal was supposed to be a single strike, first bombing the government HQ and then assassinating the prime minister shortly thereafter, but it was rushed for some reason and the gunman went all rambo and took off.

Jul 22, 2011 10:15 AM

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NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.

Douchebags with nothing better to do.

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Jul 22, 2011 10:16 AM

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Yeah, who knows... a couple sources I've seen are saying that;

Reportedly, several Jihadist forums are saying that ""HELPERS OF THE GLOBAL JIHAD" might be responsible, that name does not ring a bell to me.

A Norwegian guy I am in contact with says the youth camp shooter is a tall "Nordic looking" guy.

Edit: Cross post.

Jul 22, 2011 10:32 AM

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Well, if it really is Islamist immigrants, then I hope this is an incentive for the government to make a move and stop the ghettofication of Muslim immigrants.
Force them to move and take buses to faraway schools if needed, like Denmark does, just don't let them make their own little communities, or they'll never properly integrate into the rest of the society.
Because if they don't, we'll have that retarded Us and Them thing all over the place, with FRP inciting to fear of immigrants and retards like Mullah Krekar scheming of bombs and shit around every corner.

Jul 22, 2011 10:33 AM

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The guy that was shooting around ''Utøya'' campus is caught.
He was wearing police uniform and they say its linked to this ._.

Jul 22, 2011 10:45 AM

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I've walked around a lot in those streets before ;_; All that junk's gonna take some time to clean up.

Jul 22, 2011 10:50 AM

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Well, if it really is Islamist immigrants, then I hope this is an incentive for the government to make a move and stop the ghettofication of Muslim immigrants.
Force them to move and take buses to faraway schools if needed, like Denmark does, just don't let them make their own little communities, or they'll never properly integrate into the rest of the society.
Because if they don't, we'll have that retarded Us and Them thing all over the place, with FRP inciting to fear of immigrants and retards like Mullah Krekar scheming of bombs and shit around every corner.

I blame Saudi Arabia personally. They took what is supposed to be a universal moral code and fetishised it (with help from plenty of non-Quranic sources and self-proclaimed scholars) into something that is soley Saudi and Saudi alone. Which means believers, no matter where they are in the world, HAVE to visit Saudi Arabia, they HAVE to dress like Saudis, HAVE to speak Arabic, otherwise they wont be considered 'muslim'. Which leads to the whole 'muslims not intergrating into other cultures' thing, because Islam is infused with Saudi culture which is quite obviously incompatible with quite a few other cultures, which leads to closed bubble communities.

Basically these modern day terrorist attacks wont lessen until Islam experiences its own 'Arab spring' as it were. It's happening though, slowly but surely.

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Jul 22, 2011 11:03 AM

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Even if we're not among the "Axis of evil" along with the US, Britain and Israel, we are at least mostly supporting them, and above all, a easy target.

Now it's a good reason for the aforementioned "Axis" to organize a provocation, blame it all on Libya, Syria (I know there's a lot of syrian and lebanese immigrants in Scandinavia in general and I suppose there are some in Norway as well) or whatever other islamic country in order to make Norway support them better.
They're pushing it on every fronts really. Strauss-Kahn case, E. coli cucumbers (a bacterial weapon in reality) in Germany and some other countries, economic pseudo-crisis in Italy, now the good ol' bombings. All to avert attention from the dollar issues and many other things.

Jul 22, 2011 11:10 AM

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inb4 it turns out it's a norwegian style UNA bomber and everyone looks sort of foolish

Presumptions.

Not that I'd be surprised if it was an Islamist, but there has not been a single reason to believe it before that unknown group took responsibility.

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HAVE to visit Saudi Arabia

Well, they can't help that part, hajj and Mecca both predate the Sauds.

Jul 22, 2011 11:11 AM

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Beatnik said:
I blame Saudi Arabia personally. They took what is supposed to be a universal moral code and fetishised it (with help from plenty of non-Quranic sources and self-proclaimed scholars) into something that is soley Saudi and Saudi alone. Which means believers, no matter where they are in the world, HAVE to visit Saudi Arabia, they HAVE to dress like Saudis, HAVE to speak Arabic, otherwise they wont be considered 'muslim'. Which leads to the whole 'muslims not intergrating into other cultures' thing, because Islam is infused with Saudi culture which is quite obviously incompatible with quite a few other cultures, which leads to closed bubble communities.

I can't help to think how much better it might have been if the Ottoman empire hadn't fallen into obscurity. Then at least we would have one somewhat progressive (Even if it was pretty much decaying in the end), powerful and west-friendly (without being cultural sellouts) Muslim nation to inspire the less fortunate Muslims and not force them into a backwards spiral of terror and confrontation like this.

Then again, these Al Quaida crazies and their ilk might have turned up anyways, but at least then the poor retards that they recruit would have one other powerful nation to look up to.

Jul 22, 2011 11:19 AM

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I can't help to think how much better it might have been if the Ottoman empire hadn't fallen into obscurity. Then at least we would have one somewhat progressive (Even if it was pretty much decaying in the end), powerful and west-friendly (without being cultural sellouts) Muslim nation to inspire the less fortunate Muslims and not force them into a backwards spiral of terror and confrontation like this.

The Osman Caliphate was awesome, but I'd rather Abbassids had remained.

They invented algebra and the scientific method, you can't easily beat that.

Jul 22, 2011 11:22 AM

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You guys just love those fez hats.

By the way, I have to ask, what the heck is a Labour party youth camp and why do I have an image of Nazi kids running around in my head?

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Jul 22, 2011 11:29 AM

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Beatnik said:
You guys just love those fez hats.

By the way, I have to ask, what the heck is a Labour party youth camp and why do I have an image of Nazi kids running around in my head?

Well parties here tend to have rather strong and active youth organizations, and they arrange parties and seminars and stuff, so I imagine it's something like that.

...As ominous as the name is.

Jul 22, 2011 11:34 AM

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Just read this disturbing comment on a metafilter thread.

NRK tv had a reporter in a helicopter a few moments ago: he had counted 25-30 dead bodies on the beaches around Utøya.

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Jul 22, 2011 11:36 AM

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Kaiserpingvin said:
The Osman Caliphate was awesome, but I'd rather Abbassids had remained.

They invented algebra and the scientific method, you can't easily beat that.

Sort of makes you wish they'd smashed those Crusader kingdoms and taken over all of Europe.

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By the way, I have to ask, what the heck is a Labour party youth camp and why do I have an image of Nazi kids running around in my head?

Just some sort of summer vacation fun camp (Not to be confused with an Orwellian "Joycamp") for members of the AUF like Kaiser said. Alas, probably a breeding ground for future politicians and nourishing soil for the sad affair that is representative democracy.

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Just read this disturbing comment on a metafilter thread.

NRK tv had a reporter in a helicopter a few moments ago: he had counted 25-30 dead bodies on the beaches around Utøya.

Lolwut. Only says four as far as I know. That would be one dramatic increase, unless there's more than the one perpetrator.

Jul 22, 2011 11:39 AM

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Unconfirmed numbers says anywhere between 20-50 killed at Utøya. >>

Jul 22, 2011 11:43 AM

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I was in Oslo when this happened. Never thought that a simple trip to Norway would end up like this. My first thought when I heard the bang was that some sort of giant building had fallen over, but as soon as people started to run in panic and screamed "BOMB!" I got really nervous. The first thing that went through my mind was al-qaeda.
I hope I won't have to go through any problems when I go back to Sweden next week...

Jul 22, 2011 11:45 AM

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Just stay away from public places for now Harii, let the police and emergency services do their thing and get back in control. Stay safe!

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Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM

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Pisses me off the fact that two friends of mine called their parents and told them that they are being chased by a person, and they're running towards the water only to lose connection after gunshots.

I can deal with the bombing, but the fucking shooting.

Jul 22, 2011 12:18 PM

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Trapped on this place

Horrible.

Jul 22, 2011 12:24 PM

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The shooting sounds bad, I hope your friends are ok Pineappledishes.

This fucking world...

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Jul 22, 2011 12:31 PM

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Oh my god, I had no idea it was that small.

Now I completely understand why some guys took the chance and swam that long distance to the mainland.

Jul 22, 2011 12:34 PM

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Norway is like our little brother. This is completely unacceptable.
Our thoughts go out to all of you. :'c

Wish there was more we could do...

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Jul 22, 2011 12:37 PM

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So thats why my fat ass nephew went to Scandinavia.....

Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM

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Police just said at least 9 people got killed in the shooting.

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