What do you think of Suzaku?
| First I didn't have an opinion about him, then I really liked him and cried over him and Euphie. Then I wasn't sure at the end of the series. second season though I keep bouncing back between finding him facinating and loathing him. Though because I have come to hate him, I think he's become a much more interesting character because of it, if that makes sense. |
| I voted for... "Ok so he is a little self-righteous and naïve but he means well…" I like Suzaku as a pilot and as a character too.... he kicks ass! His ideals are way over the top though... makes him look like an idiot ^^; Lulu's ways are more substantive though. |
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Infernal said: Suzaku was always a hypocritical bastard that could never hold to his words. He preaches a hell lot but never was he able to perform them himself. The main reason he despises the methods of Zero is because he can never accept that what he did before was clearly a mistake. This is probably why he would never agree that Britannia's defeat is possible since that would clearly make the fact that he murdered his own father a BIG mistake. What he believes to be the only way out for Japan would be betrayed the moment Britannia is defeated. Spot on. I think no matter what, this is what all his preaching tries to hide. If the illusion that Britannia isn't invincible is shattered, then he has to stare down the idea that that he killed his father for nothing. And I don't think he's capable of that. Anyway...I try not to jump on the "hate" bandwagon for any character, but no matter how you look at it, Suzaku's wrong. See, I get that people think he's just idealistic and misguided, but I'm an idealist and I think he's wrong. Not because he's naive, but because of the country he's defending. Its like he ignored the speech Charles Di Britannia gave at Clovis' death. Everything that came out of that guy's mouth were the very principles Britannia was founded on. And that's your problem. You can't change a kingdom that's corrupt from its very foundation. That's like trying to care for a tree that's dead at the roots. Lelouch's actions are the right ones. You don't try to change a kingdom like that. You raze it to the ground and create a new one. And anyone that stands in his way, no matter what their *words* are, their actions indicate they condone EVERYTHING Britannia has done and is doing and will do. Granted, I'm not saying Lelouch is a good guy. But, give it time...there's some things you've all overlooked. :) |
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| I dont hate Suza, but i would love it if he was not on the governments side. |
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jaiklar said: selective_yellow said: When is this guy going to die? D: I want to know too. Oh, me too. I hate him with a passion. Sure he's important for the story and stuff, but I'll just be hating him more for every episode I watch. (And don't tell me to stop watching, because I love CG) |
| I don't hate him, but I don't like him. He is just stupid idiot. |
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| yeah, same here, don't like him, but i'm scare it will turn to hate in this s2.. |
| I almost hated him, but I remembered something; his hatred is always towards zero and never Lelouch, even if he used Nunnally. He still thinks Zero's Geass to Euphie was deliberate and that made him detest Zero. He's betting on Nunnally to make all the difference once and for all. His goal is more or less the same with Zero, albeit with a different tactic. Can't say I really hate him, lol. |
| A deplorable example of a self righteous bastard. Detest the man and the unintelligible codswallop that is his reasoning. |
| 5. There is nothing righteous about betraying your best friend. |
KappakaJun 17, 2008 8:34 AM
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| Wasn't Suzaku sorta brainwashed by Emperor Charles? Hmmm... Also Suzaku still thinks Zero was the one that killed Euphie (or let Euphie kill the Japanese) I think that was the actual start of his hatred for Zero. Hypocritical also, (but who isn't really) and he also had a screwed up childhood. He's also hated by both Japanese and Britannia at some point, hated mainly by Britannia in the first season for becoming a honorable guard. Not like he can be a good guy with all those screwed up experiences. Meh. I actually want Suzaku to change so he can fight against Britannia, but that's probably unlikely, rofl... since Euphie died and all that, don't think he can ever forgive Zero, and Lelouch probably knows it as well. |
TachiiJun 17, 2008 8:51 AM
LAH-Foton said: I almost hated him, but I remembered something; his hatred is always towards zero and never Lelouch, even if he used Nunnally. He still thinks Zero's Geass to Euphie was deliberate and that made him detest Zero. He's betting on Nunnally to make all the difference once and for all. His goal is more or less the same with Zero, albeit with a different tactic. Can't say I really hate him, lol. That's exactly it though. He does hate Lulu. >_> Ever since he found out about Lulu being Zero, he practically hates his guts. And geez, Suzaku is such a freaking idiot. I wish he could die because the series could survive without him, easily. >_< |
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| I freaking hate Suzaku....... BLAH!!!! But I guess its essential that he remains in the story in the end. I bet he'll convert back to Lulu somehow... |
| Suzaku and Lelouch have similar goals, Suzaku just has a different way of going about them. And watching your best friend shoot your love has got to screw you up. I think the dynamic between Suzaku is interesting, and important to the show. I'm glad he's in the show, as much as I may yell at him while I'm watching him. Plus, he looks to much like Syaoran to hate him ;) (Ah, Clamp~) |
| He's a self-righteous bastard, and his personal sense of justice doesn't make any sense, well in the first season anyway. Now, his motives are more taking Lelouch down slowly and painfully orientated, so that smooths the edges over a little, but I still don't like him at all. If he wants what's best for Japan then why is he fighting for Britannia? I'm pretty sure it's become painfully obvious that the Emperor doesn't give a shit about the Japanese. "Oh no, I'm gonna change it from the inside." No you're not, you're just a tool you dumb f*ck! |
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| After episode 11, I now feel TOTAL hatred for him. Even if I was sorry for him , pitied him or thought that he is gonna change... anyway... Suzaku, MESSING WITH MY FAVORITE CHARACTER MEANS DEATH, YOU KNOW THAT ? -.- *imagines suzaku getting trashed by train-...AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAINNNNNNN!!* asdasdsasd |
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| I wonder why he stays with britannia? i mean at the start of the first series he almost dies twice because of them? but i guess the only reason i dont completely hate him is because of the suzaku kick |
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| like I have posted in another thread: I feel that, as much as Lelouch have become an idealistic man, Suzaku has become an increasingly pragmatic man; a reversal of the two since S1 |
| "He may mean well but he is going too far for it to be forgiven" - not really good description of what I think about him, but the closest one ... |
| Ok so he is a little self-righteous and naïve but he means well… |
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| Aw, I love him. :( He's a confused cutie-pie. |
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| I hate him, I mean, he's too stupid, with all that changing from the inside stuff...OMFG... In the episode when he said he can't even suicide himself I was laughing. I can't stand him, it's too much for my intellect... |
| I don't hate 'em, but I don't like 'em either. So I voted third down. I feel the same way about Lelouch. There's nothing great about either of them :/ |
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| I'm on the side of Lelouch, and from that side Suzaku really is an ass. He must die, but I don't think Lelouch is going to do that, so there for Kallen must murder him, ha. |
| I like him. I feel like he and Lelouch are heading toward similar goals, but in completely different ways. Suzaku wants to do it the 'legal way', while Zero wants to burst in, take control and do it his way. Suzaku also really hasn't done anything that bad. Sure, he's done some things that would make him seem like a traitor, but he's just doing what he feels is right. How can you knock a guy for standing by his beliefs? If Lelouch can be responsible for the slaughtering of thousands of Japanese people and still be well liked, I think we can cut Suzaku a little slack. |
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Asanya said: I like him. I feel like he and Lelouch are heading toward similar goals, but in completely different ways. Suzaku wants to do it the 'legal way', while Zero wants to burst in, take control and do it his way. Suzaku also really hasn't done anything that bad. Sure, he's done some things that would make him seem like a traitor, but he's just doing what he feels is right. How can you knock a guy for standing by his beliefs? If Lelouch can be responsible for the slaughtering of thousands of Japanese people and still be well liked, I think we can cut Suzaku a little slack. hear, hear. For once, I get to see posts that are not hate-filled for our second antihero. |
Asanya said: I like him. I feel like he and Lelouch are heading toward similar goals, but in completely different ways. Suzaku wants to do it the 'legal way', while Zero wants to burst in, take control and do it his way. Suzaku also really hasn't done anything that bad. Sure, he's done some things that would make him seem like a traitor, but he's just doing what he feels is right. How can you knock a guy for standing by his beliefs? If Lelouch can be responsible for the slaughtering of thousands of Japanese people and still be well liked, I think we can cut Suzaku a little slack. Well said :) |
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| I don't really like him but there isn't really a reason for me to hate him. He did nothing wrong, he just wanted to make change from the inside out. Which is futile but the I guess moral thing to do? Lulu is a siscom and seems like he could really give a crap about the Japanese to get to his goal. Really I just care about the women they're hot. The end. |
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| I liked Suzaku in R1, but all he seems to do in R2 is make me dislike him more and more. If he had used that refrain on Kallen in episode 15 he would of been dead to me. He did redeem himself a little in my eyes by not using it. I voted for the second one down from the top. |
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| I don't like him, but I don't hate him either. |
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| Well..... I hate Suzaku and for all hes doing, standing in Zero's way, selling his best friend 2 gain a higher status, etc. Look one of the biggest reasons Suzaku rlly hates lulu is bcuz of Euphie's death. Of course from his point of view he would b furious but if he ever knew lulu's side(the first person he luved in a romantic way was Euphie, he supported her proposal about the japan thing, he geassed her unintentionally) I think he might have still been Lulu's friend but if he hears his story now its pretty much hopeless -__-. Suzaku rite now is only being used as usual and he accepts that w.e.. His excuse about changing from within is stupid. His attitude has completely changed from season 1 and is now one of those characters that have solid feelings and hardly show happiness. I can understand while hes like that but man wtf ur whole personality has changed cuz of the event. Lulu lost Shirley and was 10x sad as Suzaku was when Euphie died and lulu was betrayed by his best friend, Lulu is nearly going 2 lose his sister, Lulu has a fake brother, Lulu is nearly about 2 lose his whole Order as of rite now, Lulu has found out that the man he wanted 2 kill all these years cant be killed as of now(unless he finds a way), Lulu's mother was killed by his father who also threw him out, . U dont see Lulu acting all emo tho many times he let his anger get the best of him but Suzaku as of now is acting all serious and no more Mr. Smiley Justice guy anymore. He fuels his anger towards Lulu which has changed his whole personality. Lulu has fuel for his anger but still remains himself. That is one of the biggest reasons I really dont like Suzaku but his reasons for his actions MAY be understandable but as of rite now I still ahte him and the only way I think I might start liking him again if he hates lulu less tho i doubt that'll ever happen |
deli53Jul 23, 2008 6:26 PM
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| I go back and forth on Suzaku. Sometimes I like him and sometimes I don't. Lelouch has always been my fave. I just like the way Suzaku is drawn and when he's being a normal kid. When he starts with all the military stuff, I really hate him. |
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| Dude. He's frellin awesome. |
| You know, who would, in all honesty, believe Lulu's side in the "Princes Euphemia" incident? You are just gonna believe he made a "joke" order and ended up geassing her for real? When that Geass order ended up leading to the Black Rebellion incident, which could have lead to the collapse of Area 11 and the victory of the Black Knights? Yeah, right...I'm totally on Lulu's side here. *rolleyes* We know because we saw it, but if Suzaku had believed that lame "excuse", I would have yelled foul. Suzaku is too idealistic and naive, but he's far more humane than Lelouch. Lulu is just selfish, period, he's just in a personal war against his dad. Just a little comment about Suzaku killing his father. Japan addopted a kamikaze strategy at the very end of the war. It means, they were gonna fight until the very last japanese was dead. This would have meant more blood spilt on a "lost" fight, and the possibility of the war dragging out further, and external countries like the Chinese Federation and Europe involving themselves in the fight and then taking their piece of the spoils of war. Basically, japan was lost no matter what, so better to surrender there with no more losses than sacrifice more innocent lives. That's the reasoning behind him murdering his father. |
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Suzaku? More like GARzaku. |
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| I liked him till Euphy died >__> Then I hated him, because he just became an annoying Lelouch hater, who made me mad. >.> After seeing one of my recent episodes, I didn't hate him as much, because what happen at that shrine thing seemed like an accident. |
| I'm indifferent about the character. However, seeing him find new ways to become a bigger "douche bag" every week, is always entertaining. |
| I hated this guy, Really hated him, Most of the time I though he is an idealist, But I sort of liked him-a little- when he joined Lelouch. |
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| Hmm.. I'm not sure. I like him but I don't like him much (but not hate..) His goal is similar to Lelouch but in another way. |
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