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| ^ Exactly, people who are exposed to radiation will not be able to live that long. That incident took place 6-7 years ago according to him, so I doubt he can survive for 6 straight years with radiation in his body, but oh well, my most cordial gratitude for providing me some worthy entertainment though ;) |
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| Man, that was a sad episode. I wonder if the other characters' stories will be like this one. |
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| I want to like this, but I wasn't moved by anything. Something felt off for me. The thing I want to see most is how Joe is going to fare in the next ep. |
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Truth101 said: Dude all you see is either American propaganda about it or Japanese propaganda. Neither gives a good image... All this shows is the effects of the bomb on one person.I'm actually surprised that the Anime showed the dropping of the bomb. It still makes me sick how I've had US history "teachers" try to justify the dropping of the bomb, trying to make it out as something more than slaughter. It has nothing to do with the reasoning for using the A-bombs. Also you seem to forget that that whole war was started because Japan felt it was necessary to slaughter anyone they didn't like unite all of East Asia. War = senseless slaughter, deal with it. Even that war with the American founding fathers was no more than senseless slaughter. The British just aren't as buthurt as the Japs about it. ____________________________________________________ Great episode to a great series. I do hate how this episode skips even more from the manga than the first episode... But watever. What I also don't get is. Why aren't Joe and Megu related by blood? They where dumped by the same mother right? And they don't know anything about themselves other than that right? I hated the pervy-old-hag. Poor Joe... |
| "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise" |
| Pretty heavy episode, that old hag was just...ugh.. To the people talking about the radiation- It's not like being exposed to large amounts of radiation is a death sentence. While the chance of developing illnesses like Leukemia certainly is much higher, there are many many people who won't develop any lifethreatening illness either. So it's perfectly possible for Maeda to be alive and well (for the moment.) |
Torrentsven said: Subs are not out yet amirite? Slowpoke. They're out. |
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| Emotions. I was full of various once, while watching this episode - sadness, anger mainly. It's a perfect example of strong bonds between people and how it survives even the darkest things in life - violence, hate or even pedophilia. The episode was full of brilliant and strong scenes - the escape, where everybody unites just to help Joe, the scene in the orphanage or the flashbacks, everything just added to the overall cruel and sad vibes which surely Rainbow doesn't lack. We also get a lot of insight into Joe's and Spoon's past, which have one big thing in common - sadness. I'm overwhelmed after watching this episode and that being said, I can't rate this episode other than I do. In a season surrounded by moe and comedy, Rainbow is exceptional and one of the best currently airing. 10/10 |
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| Seriously, I wish not all the bad people were ugly. Also...are there seriously prisons that easy to escape? o.O |
- If you believe this place holds you, it is a prison. If you do not wish to leave, it will become a fortress. Current icon: Kusuriuri from Mononoke by pana (LJ username) |
Cenedess said: Also...are there seriously prisons that easy to escape? o.O Nowadays, I very much doubt it. But this was 55 years ago, whilst in a particularly bad financial situation, so it's hardly surprising that institutes such as this wouldn't be able to afford as good security as you'd expect. That said, it still bugged me. Probably the only blip in an otherwise perfect episode. |
| Damn that perv baba -.- btw great ep |
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| Another SICK episode. In every meaning of the word. This series is shaping to be one of the finest of this season, and I'm truly loving the OP and ED too. |
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| v v Yeah, I threw up in my mouth alittle. francismeunier said: Jou.......OMG I was seriously disgusted with the old grandma! If you see this part=> This episode was a giant ten for me. I am in love. This anime made me cry on the second episode? Amazing! I love you Joe... you're nice one second, and then cursing at grandma the next. ((I know, I'm weak for crying...)) (Is there going to be a brutal beating every episode? >.<) - Please don't troll on me for saying I cried, I'm just sayin' :D - Zer0_TR said: Also He easily captured by 2 guards...I hate weak and stupid characters. I didn't find anything weak about Joe. Nothing at all... |
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| Great episode. But I don't like the music. It kinda ruined the mood for me. >.< |
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| This episode is kinda emotional at the end. Definitely love it. I'm always on for tragic and cruel tales. Cenedess said: Seriously, I wish not all the bad people were ugly. Also...are there seriously prisons that easy to escape? o.O I also wondered about that. But as someone else mentioned above, it is a youth detention center, not a prison? |
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| oh my gosh! just saw episode 2 and it was just amazing! this anime is so full of emotions.. the episode was really touching, it even almost made me cry xD i cant wait till next episode! this is my favorite anime of the season so far! |
nicoliolipoli said: v v Yeah, I threw up in my mouth alittle. francismeunier said: Jou.......OMG I was seriously disgusted with the old grandma! If you see this part=> This episode was a giant ten for me. I am in love. This anime made me cry on the second episode? Amazing! I love you Joe... you're nice one second, and then cursing at grandma the next. ((I know, I'm weak for crying...)) (Is there going to be a brutal beating every episode? >.<) - Please don't troll on me for saying I cried, I'm just sayin' :D - I was more sad at the part Meg cried......I really felt for her on that moment with Jou also when he cried.....that was strange around when it happened.... |
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| Commie did an excellent job subbing episode 02 and since they're faster than FroZen, I'll follow them from now on. Commie are actually very good imo. Episode 02 was cruel with the whole director of the orphanage (pervert granny), she RAPED all the poor boys who she was supposed to take care of including Joe.....she was having sex with boys between the ages of 10 to 17 (or even younger). Then she proceeds to "sell" the young girls in her care to pedophiles under the filing that this man is your father now. At first, I didn't understand why Megu-chan was cold towards Joe but I think she did it so that Joe wouldn't escape from jail and hurt himself like he did now. in the name of trying to meet her or save her from those evil clutches. Episode 02 was incredibly sad because of how life was sooooo cruel and this pretty much erupts this series to the top spot of being the BEST SERIES OF THIS SEASON. |
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| That orphanage owner is fucking sick. Like for real. I want her to die. Fucked up woman. That guy that adopted Meg is also sick. I feel SO bad for Joe...wtf is Meg's problem. FFS. He escaped from jail to find her and she just turns him down. She probably did it for a reason, but she could of done it a little better..or something. I dunno. It was BS move. Also, those guards are fucking stupid idiots. Shows EXACTLY how the police system really is in the world. Bunch of useless good for nothings. Cops are just dogs anyways. |
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| In the manga, Spoon and Joe escape together. |
| So they'll leave Megu fot that ugly guy? Shit... >__< But Joe showed off this time. "Strong" episode. btw I feel like francis for already liking Megu... <_< KayChan4U said: I feel SO bad for Joe...wtf is Meg's problem. FFS. He escaped from jail to find her and she just turns him down. She probably did it for a reason, but she could of done it a little better..or something. Watched this and still don't get it? In short, she wanted Joe to not think only of her anymore, but more of himself . Or somehing like that... ;P |
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Maximatum99 said: That was the most brilliant thing I've witnessed in.. I don't know how long. I cried laughin' for 10 minutes straight. I salute you.In dramatic buildup of moe and plane, it was almost a surprise for maximum impact. The line I quoted, however, shows the tipping point of destruction of logic. "I am afraid she will either be not pure because of that fake father or she might become a killer." The shift in OMGWTFAMIREADING was so dramatic that the genre of the pictures transformed symbolically opposite yet equally. ps: The episode was nice even if illogical at points |
Maximatum99 said: kerobear said: I think you are all forgetting something. If it was radiation that made him look like who he is, wouldn't he maybe have died way before due to developing cancer cells? Well, not sure how long he was exposed but you get the idea. francismeunier said: Good observation, i just thought that was his styleO_o. he doesn't seem to be growing either. wait.. does height have anything to do with radiation?yamakasi said: Yes! I agreed with you. I think also his pimples scars can be a extent of the poisoning since he was still at a certain distance when it happened....so he might develop later on cancer?And if we're going to dispute facts within Rainbow's world, the escape aside, what about when we flashed back to Maeda walking amongst the debris of the bomb? Wouldn't he have radiation poisoning and probably die? (Or is his appearance -- the pimples/scars, patchy hair -- the "extent" of his poisoning?) I still think it's his character design. Go read Hiroshima, it's a book written by John Hersey. He covers 6 survivors of the bomb dropping, and all but one of them were within a mile of the blast radius. He then did a follow-up 40 years later. 4 out of the 6 were still alive. While many people in the blast zone suffered physical and psychological trauma, including cancers, it wasn't a guaranteed death sentence. |
| I never knew Alfred E. Neuman had his home and sister incinerated by a nuke. Now I feel bad for making fun of his looks for years. |
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Rakuen42 said: True, true. I remember watching a documentary on it a couple of months back with the survivors telling their story.Go read Hiroshima, it's a book written by John Hersey. He covers 6 survivors of the bomb dropping, and all but one of them were within a mile of the blast radius. He then did a follow-up 40 years later. 4 out of the 6 were still alive. While many people in the blast zone suffered physical and psychological trauma, including cancers, it wasn't a guaranteed death sentence. |
| ^^ Actually read that book. Glad to see that time isn't going to waste. The people only obtained radiation poisoning if they stayed in the refuge tents they put up after the bomb or heavy burns. I question how far away he was; in order to not get burned yet his house still got destroyed. It said he just left the house because his dad was drunk... Great improvement over the first episode since the stage is finally set. Nice to see a tragedy that isn't chock full of moé. Although i am not sure i like hentai baba.... Even with that bad security, how can they really not notice a kid running at full speed like that? I mean spoon was in the same general direction as Jo... |
OrochiPL said: Well we all feel bad for her being with that disgusting pig and yeah I should do some kind of adoption......I could be a good father for her.....I am sure Sawako would take care of her well also. So they'll leave Megu fot that ugly guy? Shit... >__< But Joe showed off this time. "Strong" episode. btw I feel like francis for already liking Megu... <_< Kvakond said: Maximatum99 said: That was the most brilliant thing I've witnessed in.. I don't know how long. I cried laughin' for 10 minutes straight. I salute you.In dramatic buildup of moe and plane, it was almost a surprise for maximum impact. The line I quoted, however, shows the tipping point of destruction of logic. "I am afraid she will either be not pure because of that fake father or she might become a killer." The shift in OMGWTFAMIREADING was so dramatic that the genre of the pictures transformed symbolically opposite yet equally. ps: The episode was nice even if illogical at points Yeah ok sometimes I fail at the posts......at least it makes people laugh. |
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| OMG.. another sad episode. I don't know if i'll be able to continue watching this anime if it stays this depressing. >.> |
| It's not only depressing but irritating, in a good way of course makes me want to throw that perv old hag with a table from 5th floor |
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| This episode probably had the scariest thing I've ever seen in it. |
GrmoApr 21, 2010 1:18 PM
| As expected, this is extremely dark and although the directing is stereotyped for the drama genre, it's still quite good at building up sadness and the emotional impact is certainly strong. In a market dominated by moe, this stands out even more as a disturbing show in a good way. The character design used to show the disgusting nature of certain antagonists reminds me of the one used in Battle Royal, which is (in)famous for its dark and extremely graphic scenes. So the art style certainly helps create a sick and creepy atmosphere. Episode 2 overall confirms that this show will be great for its genre. I only hope FroZen will get their subs out quicker as the Commie ones aren't that good. |
| To think the boy was willing to bite himself in order to escape, desolate times. <_< |
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| This was borderline bad. Again, I felt the heavy hand of the directors trying to lighten up the mood of this piece, while over-exaggerating the morally black characters as "villains." I feel a little insulted by how Joe looks as opposed his rapist, and the guy taking in Megu. There is a lack of subtlety that I find pedestrian about this show. |
| This ep was depressing... even thinking about that old pervert lady makes me disgusted... Megu is so strong, she made me cry at the end... |
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| ;_; oh man i don't even |
| I'd probably like Turtle more if he didn't sound EXACTLY like Edward Elric, and yes I do know its the same voice actor but thats no excuse. Still, it was a very good episode. |
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Xavierxenon said: I'd probably like Turtle more if he didn't sound EXACTLY like Edward Elric, and yes I do know its the same voice actor but thats no excuse. But....all her voices sound like Edward Elric.... |
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| I feel sad for Meg when I think about what she's going to go through... |
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| This shit is terrible. The number of people I wanna see dead is rising... |
MorningGlory said: Very realistic episode,i feel as if i am not watching Anime.I feel as if i am watching a real life drama.Hope nothing scary happen after this >.< Well yeah. How an anime will be, depends on the story not on the medium itself. Anime can do anything and even more of what live action movies can. Well horror is a little hard for anime i have to admit, real life horrifying scenes always look more terrifying. This episode was very good and we got a look from outside the prison also. The emotion transfer was successful, i just wanted to go find those disgusting old people that do such things to children and open there guts out. That old lady and that guy that bought the girl where disgusting as hell. I believe this was slightly better than the first episode. Watching this show can spoil your happy mood but it deserves the trouble. The story is completely real, giving a perfect image of a very hard life. noteDhero said: This was borderline bad. Again, I felt the heavy hand of the directors trying to lighten up the mood of this piece, while over-exaggerating the morally black characters as "villains." I feel a little insulted by how Joe looks as opposed his rapist, and the guy taking in Megu. There is a lack of subtlety that I find pedestrian about this show. Under normal circumstances i would have agree with you on the way evil characters are presented but in this show i don't. Why? Because this anime shows stories that are realistic along with a feeling that the scenario knows the shit that it talks about and believe it or not this kind of people 90% of the time look exactly as disgusting as that and even more especially in the eye of there victims. Yes you may think it's an unrealistic element of exaggeration but it's actually realistic as hell. I don't know if you met similar people in your life but i have and if i could make an anime about them then they would look/behave like that also. No matter how deliberately evil and absurd some characters may look to you, real life is even more awful and absurd. Yes believe it or not there are many real people that their personality is so two-dimensional that anime flatters them if they try to show other sides by trying to satisfy the sense of realism of viewers like you who didn't actually ever had an encounter with this reality. You judge how an interesting villain should be, simply by a cinematography perspective of realism and not a real world realism. Don't know if you get what i mean. |
MonadApr 23, 2010 3:17 PM
Monad said: and believe it or not this kind of people 90% of the time look exactly as disgusting as that Wow...just wow. I'm speechless. Your way of judging people by their exterior is sickening. To add something non-constructive to the topic: - character design: fail - escape: fail - realism: fail Anime dropped. And wtf at that quote again, open your eyes, god damnit. |
didipApr 23, 2010 3:55 PM
| Poor Jou. That's now two for two in terms of episodes he's the target of sexual abuse (Or at least, I kind of felt like the doctor was a little excited to check him for worms in episode 1). About the characters looking disgusting when they're evil. This is being written by a guy who went through all this, so to him, all the evil people probably appeared as physically repulsive to him as their personalities were. Sort of like after so much abuse his image of them is now demonic and subhuman. So we see them in the same light that the prisoners do. |
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Kiddo said: Monad said: and believe it or not this kind of people 90% of the time look exactly as disgusting as that Wow...just wow. I'm speechless. Your way of judging people by their exterior is sickening. To add something non-constructive to the topic: - character design: fail - escape: fail - realism: fail Anime dropped. And wtf at that quote again, open your eyes, god damnit. It's not my exterior judging sense that's sickening, it's your level of understanding on how the world "look" should be perceived especially considering the following phrase. And btw even if it was meant as completely literal looks this doesn't judge people by their looks but the looks of certain people. The difference is that the first perceives the personalty in terms of outside looks while the second perceives the looks after judging the personality. Maybe if you squeezed your brain a little instead of just throwing the first catching phrase out of your head that you think will make you look good you would have catch the difference. Ignoring the reasoning of realism that will take a lot of talk, your other two reasons are quite laughable also. JustRad said: About the characters looking disgusting when they're evil. This is being written by a guy who went through all this, so to him, all the evil people probably appeared as physically repulsive to him as their personalities were. Sort of like after so much abuse his image of them is now demonic and subhuman. So we see them in the same light that the prisoners do. Thank you! I didn't knew the guy who wrote the story actually lived threw this shit but this enforces my argument of real life perceptive. I get the feeling that those objecting are the kind of people that never met such disgusting individuals and have no idea what kind of people are out there. And anyway we are talking about old guys here. Old people never look very good especially in anime and manga, the only difference from making them look disgusting or nice is the expressions on there face and way they act. And those things depend on there personality. People underestimate how your outside appearance can be affected by what's inside especially with time. The older you are the more it will appear on your face because as your body changes it adopts more and more to your inside world. |
MonadApr 23, 2010 5:25 PM
| Let's remember that these beautiful people are in a detention center for not being upstanding citizens themselves. Whether or not you want to excuse or even admit it is not my problem. On top of that, you seem to be forgetting that the doctor has a much more subtle design than the jail keeper, or the other two molesters in this episode. On top of all that, you seem to be conveniently forgetting that a large number of sex offenders were at one point victims themselves. This is the black and white mentality of the show that I don't appreciate. The show admits that this is a time when men and adults took advantage of women and children during a very severe moment of societal reconstruction. These kids are criminals themselves, but have their own reasons (good and bad, I'm sure) for ending up where they are. I expect that a show that is willing to show these types of characters in a light to let their stories speak for themselves, wouldn't rely so heavily on two-dimensional representations of real people. But that's what's happening, and it's a shame. The show would be a lot grittier and truer to life if it examined the harsh nihilism that made Japan go Lord of the Flies. And as an example, shows like Monster and Kaiji, where there is a more uniform character design help get across that edge a lot better than Rainbow. |
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