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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
38 14.23%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
30 11.24%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
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03-27-08, 3:19 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So i finished this episode, and all i have to say is what? So, are the kids supposed to be a reincarnation of yukito and misuzu? Yukito was also the crow, himself, and that kid. Was this arc supposed to be a retelling with the crow added because i'm pretty sure that i didn't see a crow in the first episode.
 
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04-16-08, 8:16 PM

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Last few episodes was a retelling and showing us what was happening behind the scenes, the parts where Yukito wasnt around for. Also remember that she gets worse VERY fast when Yukito is near her, so the crow was essentially a way of Yukito being near her without actually being near her. Another significance of the crow was that the Ryuyu wanted to be with Kanna who was still in the skies, feeling lonely and tortured, Now Yukito can be with her forever. Remember that Misuzu was only a VERY small piece of Kanna.

Also it seemed like that kid at the end had knowledge of the future so im doubting that he was Yukito reincarnation, some reason I believe that hes an offspring of the race with wings like Misuzu is.
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04-27-08, 2:50 AM

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For what it's worth, I put this together after going to a lot of different forums, websites, etc. For me it ties up a lot of loose ends. If someone doesn't agree with any or all of it - good for them. It's there, take what you want from it I'm not going defend it or discuss it. I would say however if you disagree with something within post your own resolution for the situation - you can't why are you disagreeing?

1. Michiru, who is the spirit of Managi’s dead sister, is constantly shown as not being able to blow bubbles. This refers to a sad song that mothers of babies who have died sing to comfort themselves. The main verse is: A soap bubble vanished away. Before it could fly it vanished. The moment it was born it burst and vanished away.
2. Yukito is the last in a line of descendants from Ryuya and Uraha. Sora, the crow, is the spirit of Ryuya who died trying to protect the woman he loved, Kanna. Sora, appears many times you just are looking for him.
3. Misuzu is the latest reincarnation of Kanna. Kanna was the last of the winged beings. In order to destroy her and the cult built around her species, Buddhist monks cursed her to live an endless cycle of reincarnation, suffering and death; never knowing happiness. She suffers from the knowledge she will be alone and sad, that if she is even fond of anyone she develops an extremely painful illness that eventually kills her, but even if she didn’t she will die young because a human is not strong enough to be the reincarnation of a winged being. What causes the greatest amount of suffering is if she thinks that a person likes (not even loves) her they, too, will suffer a painful death.
4. In some forms of Buddhism, reincarnation is not linear which means that a spirit’s reincarnations can overlap and or take different shapes and, therefore, be in the same plane at the same time. While the girl in the sky is Kanna’s spirit, Misuzu is the human reincarnation of Kanna. Yukito’s human reincarnation is the boy on the beach, his (or rather Ryuya’s) spirit is Sora, the crow. Misuzu is reincarnated as the girl on the beach.
5. Yukito left Misuzu to convince her that she would once again be alone and therefore recover. In fact he did not stop loving her even though he knew it meant his death. Misuzu didn’t recover because she made a conscious decision to love Huruko, which caused her death. Huruko didn’t suffer because the curse was broken when Sora took Misuzu’s happy memories of that summer with Yukito and Huruko to Kanna’s spirit, the girl in the sky. Because Misuzu was Kanna’s reincarnation the memories became Kanna’s as well thereby defeating the monks curse.
6. That the curse is broken is shown first by Huruko not being ill and then by the two children on the beach who are the reincarnations of Yukito and Misuzu
 
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05-13-08, 1:32 PM

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I really didn't understand this series too much, it just seemed to jump around all over the place. It was a good "last" episode though, very sad and touching.


#NBHNC
 
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06-10-08, 5:14 AM

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I can't take it... The moment when Misuzu's shouting for her mom on the beach and they start to run to each other. I cry every and each time I watch it. Seen it 4 times already and before I realize my eyes are so wet... Just why the hell everyone has to die... I've had enough of dramas for about a year, seriously I'm getting depressed.
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07-24-08, 11:18 AM

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I also felt like I was grabbed and thrown all over the place while watching this. I enjoyed it, and teared up. But perhaps 12 episodes just wasn't enough to convey this story.
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08-01-08, 6:00 AM

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Huge post, so click the spoiler tag at your own risk :P
 
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08-08-08, 8:54 AM

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god what a way to end it :'(, man i wished it was a happy ending i was like hoping even though i knew what would happen just a little bit of hope to end on a happier note.

*its 2am just finished very tired azn here (-.-);
 
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09-11-08, 4:11 PM

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i have never cried so hard in my life. seriously. AIR did that. and, after watching it, i can no longer cry during an anime, because I just end up thinking, "this is NOTHING compared to Air."

omg, i love the moher-duaghter relationship those two have. T-T.

i love this anime so so so so so so SO much.


 
10-17-08, 3:10 PM

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chinaboat said:


Thanks alot!! I already knew part of what you said, but you clarified what I already knew and suspected, as well as imforming of the few little things I didn't get.
This was a very beutiful, yet sad story. I rate this anime at a 9 out of 10. Key employees have an impressive talent at story-telling...
Roketsu said:
Huge post, so click the spoiler tag at your own risk :P

Ah!! Thanks alot! This deepens my love for these series, as well as clarifying EVERYTHING!!!
Well mostly everything, since I still don't know if those 2 kids at the end were their rencarnations...
 
10-28-08, 1:33 PM

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Air is a masterpiece, and nothing less. I shed tears at the ending. Seriously, Air, Kanon and Clannad together make for the ultimate drama/romance "trilogy".
 
11-08-08, 1:19 AM

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Okay, that really made my day. And gave me the whole explanation. Thank you for explaining EVERYTHING to me!!

Love it! I thought I would just give it an 8, but it's better to give AIR 9.

Overall, Air is the 2nd among the trilogy. Clannad for me is the best, while Kanon is the least of the three.
 
11-13-08, 7:15 PM

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Genix said:
chinaboat said:


Thanks alot!! I already knew part of what you said, but you clarified what I already knew and suspected, as well as imforming of the few little things I didn't get.
This was a very beutiful, yet sad story. I rate this anime at a 9 out of 10. Key employees have an impressive talent at story-telling...
Roketsu said:
Huge post, so click the spoiler tag at your own risk :P

Ah!! Thanks alot! This deepens my love for these series, as well as clarifying EVERYTHING!!!
Well mostly everything, since I still don't know if those 2 kids at the end were their rencarnations...


Agreed - thanks for posting these explanations. They both jive pretty well with how I perceived the story while watching and they both do a fine job of tying up loose ends and connecting the dots for the lingering questions I had at the end.
 
11-27-08, 9:27 PM

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chinaboat said:
For what it's worth, I put this together after going to a lot of different forums, websites, etc. For me it ties up a lot of loose ends. If someone doesn't agree with any or all of it - good for them. It's there, take what you want from it I'm not going defend it or discuss it. I would say however if you disagree with something within post your own resolution for the situation - you can't why are you disagreeing?

1. Michiru, who is the spirit of Managi’s dead sister, is constantly shown as not being able to blow bubbles. This refers to a sad song that mothers of babies who have died sing to comfort themselves. The main verse is: A soap bubble vanished away. Before it could fly it vanished. The moment it was born it burst and vanished away.
2. Yukito is the last in a line of descendants from Ryuya and Uraha. Sora, the crow, is the spirit of Ryuya who died trying to protect the woman he loved, Kanna. Sora, appears many times you just are looking for him.
3. Misuzu is the latest reincarnation of Kanna. Kanna was the last of the winged beings. In order to destroy her and the cult built around her species, Buddhist monks cursed her to live an endless cycle of reincarnation, suffering and death; never knowing happiness. She suffers from the knowledge she will be alone and sad, that if she is even fond of anyone she develops an extremely painful illness that eventually kills her, but even if she didn’t she will die young because a human is not strong enough to be the reincarnation of a winged being. What causes the greatest amount of suffering is if she thinks that a person likes (not even loves) her they, too, will suffer a painful death.
4. In some forms of Buddhism, reincarnation is not linear which means that a spirit’s reincarnations can overlap and or take different shapes and, therefore, be in the same plane at the same time. While the girl in the sky is Kanna’s spirit, Misuzu is the human reincarnation of Kanna. Yukito’s human reincarnation is the boy on the beach, his (or rather Ryuya’s) spirit is Sora, the crow. Misuzu is reincarnated as the girl on the beach.
5. Yukito left Misuzu to convince her that she would once again be alone and therefore recover. In fact he did not stop loving her even though he knew it meant his death. Misuzu didn’t recover because she made a conscious decision to love Huruko, which caused her death. Huruko didn’t suffer because the curse was broken when Sora took Misuzu’s happy memories of that summer with Yukito and Huruko to Kanna’s spirit, the girl in the sky. Because Misuzu was Kanna’s reincarnation the memories became Kanna’s as well thereby defeating the monks curse.
6. That the curse is broken is shown first by Huruko not being ill and then by the two children on the beach who are the reincarnations of Yukito and Misuzu


AAAAH.... So that's what happened.
 
12-20-08, 9:27 AM

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thanks for the explanations I think I get it now ^^ anyway, great anime, but everutime an anime like this ends I'm just sad, and to think clannad is going to be something like this >_<
 
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chinaboat said:
For what it's worth, I put this together after going to a lot of different forums, websites, etc. For me it ties up a lot of loose ends. If someone doesn't agree with any or all of it - good for them. It's there, take what you want from it I'm not going defend it or discuss it. I would say however if you disagree with something within post your own resolution for the situation - you can't why are you disagreeing?

1. Michiru, who is the spirit of Managi’s dead sister, is constantly shown as not being able to blow bubbles. This refers to a sad song that mothers of babies who have died sing to comfort themselves. The main verse is: A soap bubble vanished away. Before it could fly it vanished. The moment it was born it burst and vanished away.
2. Yukito is the last in a line of descendants from Ryuya and Uraha. Sora, the crow, is the spirit of Ryuya who died trying to protect the woman he loved, Kanna. Sora, appears many times you just are looking for him.
3. Misuzu is the latest reincarnation of Kanna. Kanna was the last of the winged beings. In order to destroy her and the cult built around her species, Buddhist monks cursed her to live an endless cycle of reincarnation, suffering and death; never knowing happiness. She suffers from the knowledge she will be alone and sad, that if she is even fond of anyone she develops an extremely painful illness that eventually kills her, but even if she didn’t she will die young because a human is not strong enough to be the reincarnation of a winged being. What causes the greatest amount of suffering is if she thinks that a person likes (not even loves) her they, too, will suffer a painful death.
4. In some forms of Buddhism, reincarnation is not linear which means that a spirit’s reincarnations can overlap and or take different shapes and, therefore, be in the same plane at the same time. While the girl in the sky is Kanna’s spirit, Misuzu is the human reincarnation of Kanna. Yukito’s human reincarnation is the boy on the beach, his (or rather Ryuya’s) spirit is Sora, the crow. Misuzu is reincarnated as the girl on the beach.
5. Yukito left Misuzu to convince her that she would once again be alone and therefore recover. In fact he did not stop loving her even though he knew it meant his death. Misuzu didn’t recover because she made a conscious decision to love Huruko, which caused her death. Huruko didn’t suffer because the curse was broken when Sora took Misuzu’s happy memories of that summer with Yukito and Huruko to Kanna’s spirit, the girl in the sky. Because Misuzu was Kanna’s reincarnation the memories became Kanna’s as well thereby defeating the monks curse.
6. That the curse is broken is shown first by Huruko not being ill and then by the two children on the beach who are the reincarnations of Yukito and Misuzu


Thanks. That explains a lot to me. I always thought less of this anime because there were many things I didn't understand. I didn't even know why it was that Misuzu would get weak when she made a friend. But monks putting a curse on winged ones makes sense. They may have mentioned that in the anime, but I don't remember it.

But if Ryuya is the crow than what happened to Yukito? For some reason I thought he was the crow, but now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense. Did he die? Or did he really leave? I thought he said he wasn't going to leave.

I loved the relationship with Misuzu and her mom. I always cry during the scene with Misuzu walking. This is probably the saddest anime I've ever seen.
 
01-01-09, 6:32 AM

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i have never cried so hard in my life. seriously. AIR did that. and, after watching it, i can no longer cry during an anime, because I just end up thinking, "this is NOTHING compared to Air."

You know what the worst part is? Air isn't even the most depressing story Key has done. Planetarian is like, 10 times worse.

Either way, while Air might have been my least favourite out of the Key/KyoAni-shows, (Air, Kanon and Clannad) I still thought it was an outstanding series. The ending actually made me feel depressed for several days... Though I've never, ever, ever, EVER actually cried while watching an anime, this one came dangerously close. If I were to say one thing I didn't like about the series, it would be that the ending is pretty confusing.
 
01-30-09, 3:46 PM

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Loved this series..thanks for the explanations! That really helps.^^
As for episode 12..I have never cried so much while watching any anime. It was probably the most depressing ending of an anime that I have ever seen.
 
05-08-09, 4:05 PM

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Pretty good series, but I don't like this as much as Clannad or Clannad AS. The ending was much more confusing than either of them, but the explanations on the first page helped quite a bit.

I really contemplated on whether or not to give this series a 9, but an 8 seems enough to me. Yet another good anime from Key, now I've only got one left in the romance/drama trilogy; Kanon 2006. Looking forward to it.

8/10
 
06-09-09, 9:30 PM

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Nothing much to say except for I'm going to go and die in the corner of my room now <.>
Misuzu FOREVER! <3<3




 
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