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Dec 8, 2015 5:24 AM

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moodie said:
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Seriously?Did you really just wrote that in a Monogatari thread?Thats the whole point of this series...Protagonist of that arc narrating the story of something from her/his perspective...We don't show monogataries here,we tell them...You are watching the wrong show with wrong expectations...
srsly when has monogatari done anything otherwise

the only "action" you will see is in kizu


I guess that's why it's called monogatari. LOL
Dec 8, 2015 6:14 AM

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I feel like the previous episode was a little better, anyway, I liked this week episode. I'm waiting for the next, let's see what the first want.
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Dec 8, 2015 7:13 PM

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If you take a step back, Ougi is sitting there listening to Araragi's recollection of events months prior, including all of the explanations by Gaen. And because Gaen knows everything, Gaen probably knows Ougi is listening in.
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Dec 9, 2015 12:08 AM

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not gonna lie i got pretty confused about a lot of things during gaen's infodump. Maybe it was just the translation I had but it seemed really unclear and convoluted. Can anyone explain briefly her explanation? I really don't wanna have to watch all that again lol


Basically, The First and Shinobu were responsable for everything that happened until now in the series, in a simplified way.

All the apparitions became attracted to the temple, since there was nothing to replenish them (Like a god, as Gaen said)

With that information in mind, i still recommend you to watch the episode again though.
Dec 9, 2015 1:36 AM

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Hohohoo, shit is getting more real and real.

lololol that bookstore, especially Gaen in the mature women magazine :--D
Dec 9, 2015 10:23 PM

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Dec 10, 2015 3:13 PM

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Kanbaru trying to get a look at that loli butt.


Man, this episode was confusing. What is even going on anymore. And now, somehow, the Samurai thing is a young boy? What?
Oh, well. The Araragi and Kanbaru banter was wonderful as always.
Dec 13, 2015 6:04 AM

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1st part didn't made sense to me but it was cute seeing Shinobu biting the arm of Kanbaru.
LOL at the last part, Yato buying BL novels as a request from Kanbaru.
and since Yato branded as a lolicon was forced to buy also MILF items and lol at the "employees laughing"!
5/5.


Dec 19, 2015 5:47 PM

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That was one heck of an info-dump.

"Employees laughing" LMAO
Dec 20, 2015 2:14 AM
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gaen is trash and having to listen to her drone on for hours is even worse
Dec 20, 2015 6:08 PM

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There he is! Right on time just like every week! #besttroll2015


I used to think he's either a troll or a super elitist. After reading that I know he undestands nothing about Monogatari, heck he didn't even pay any attention to this (or apparently the previous) episode.
Dec 20, 2015 6:45 PM

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MoeGod said:
I used to think he's either a troll or a super elitist. After reading that I know he undestands nothing about Monogatari, heck he didn't even pay any attention to this (or apparently the previous) episode.

You say that as if disliking a show means that I don't understand it or pay attention to it.

Heck, I started reading the light novels and I think they're decent. That wouldn't be possible if I didn't understand anything about the story.
Dec 20, 2015 11:52 PM

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64SuperNintendo said:
MoeGod said:
I used to think he's either a troll or a super elitist. After reading that I know he undestands nothing about Monogatari, heck he didn't even pay any attention to this (or apparently the previous) episode.

You say that as if disliking a show means that I don't understand it or pay attention to it.

Heck, I started reading the light novels and I think they're decent. That wouldn't be possible if I didn't understand anything about the story.


Well.. the fact that you didn't even recapped the episode properly (I don't know if it's just your English problem but they certainly didn't choose to call Kagenui.. yet) or that you didn't even realize the "new" character was Shinobu's first familiar made it clear to me you barely paid attention to the story or the dialogues. I suspect that's most likely the case too with the whole Monogatari series. Good thing you're reading the novels, that'd probably give you some details you obviously missed out in the anime.
Dec 21, 2015 4:56 AM

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MoeGod said:
Well.. the fact that you didn't even recapped the episode properly (I don't know if it's just your English problem but they certainly didn't choose to call Kagenui.. yet) or that you didn't even realize the "new" character was Shinobu's first familiar made it clear to me you barely paid attention to the story or the dialogues. I suspect that's most likely the case too with the whole Monogatari series. Good thing you're reading the novels, that'd probably give you some details you obviously missed out in the anime.

No, I said they chose to call Kagenui to help as a last resort, meaning that they said that was their option if things go bad, but I didn't say that it was a fact that they were definitely going to do that. Just that they chose that as their option.

I also knew that guy was Shinobu's first familiar, because I was, in fact, paying attention to the story and dialogue. It was pretty obvious to figure out anyway, considering that he had already been talked about previously in the episode, as well as in Second Season. I just called him a new character because that was his first appearance in person, and because he wasn't explicitly identified as being her first familiar until the following episode (and I was recapping based on what information has been explicitly given in the episode I was recapping).
Dec 21, 2015 6:18 PM

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That's quite an interesting section of a book store :v

Pretty fun and interesting ending, looking forward who that new girl/boy (I'm not sure what that was) actually is.
Jan 8, 2016 12:45 PM

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Lmao I loved the Boys-Love skit between Kanbaru and Ararararagi :D
21 books already!

Oh damn ... the first one already took a human body, let alone a small boy with crazy eyes!

This is getting exciting :D
Jan 26, 2016 11:15 AM

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Rejoice, folks: we got a shota now ! Kaiki and Sode on that BL Light Novel cover couldn't be more fitting.

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And now, somehow, the Samurai thing is a young boy? What?
Well, think about Shinobu and her own kid form. The First is now revived, but he has yet to retrieve his full powers.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Feb 4, 2016 5:37 PM

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Proving that you don't have a lolita complex is important.

And...did Shinobu overwrite the Samurai or something?


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Feb 21, 2016 9:57 PM
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Did they add a Hajime no Ippo reference from the BL title?

Lol Kaiki and Gaen. XD
May 5, 2016 8:01 AM

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I thought the first was Ougi, i'm a little bit dissapointed
Jun 30, 2016 3:44 AM

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Kanbaru is still best girl but Gaen has her charm.
Oct 4, 2016 1:01 PM

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It was about time Kanbaru made some sexual innendos again xD
Oct 5, 2016 5:38 AM
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appear the "first"...is young and strong!!!! seem a ugly girl xD
Dec 15, 2016 3:27 PM

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One of those BL book covers had a guy who looked like Kaiki lel.
The first minion seems to have decreased in age o.0
Feb 21, 2017 1:22 PM

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May 6, 2017 11:04 AM

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Interesting first half, but the second half made it for me, the commentary scene and Araragi in the bookstore were hilarious.

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Aug 27, 2017 10:59 PM

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lol that ending and araragi in the idol area of the store XD
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Nov 3, 2017 12:19 AM

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Fuck. This episode pretty much answered every query I had in the last episode.

Apparitions can attract other apparitions no wonder a lot of apparitions are appearing around Araragi because of Shinobu, too. The First saw Shinobu when she visited that shrine when they're about to time leap back then, so it gave him will to become powerful like a romance yeah. Haha. First literally followed Shinobu in that town, that's why he's there. Hehe.

No wonder Ononoki's mission failed because First was gone when she arrived in that shrine. Now their mission is to kill First. And jeez Shinobu knew that Araragi is jealous of the First. Hehe. Jealous Araragi is cute. Heck, you're her one and only now, Araragi, like she said, so that's a relief. Huehue. Cuties.

Hahaha. Kanbaru is literally a fujoshi and that "Eat up" is from a BL light novel. I can't with her. And asking Araragi to buy her a bra. Pffft. Cutie Shinobu wants donuts. Awwww. :3

EXCUSE MOI, I JUST CAN'T IGNORE THAT SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION REFERENCE THERE WHEN ARARAGI SHOUTED FREEDOM. HAHAHA!

And when Araragi was buying a light novel jeez he bumped into First who looks like possessing a kid's body and it looks terrifying. Them eyes. Them muscles. What the fuck.

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Jan 10, 2018 11:32 AM

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It was about time Kanbaru made some sexual innendos again xD


indeed & i cant get enough of them lol

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Sep 26, 2018 2:43 AM

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lol Kaiki and Episode on the cover of BL. And Gaen Izuko was also on the adult magazine covers lololol

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May 1, 2019 7:08 AM
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Usually I enjoy whenever the dialogue is really heavy, but this time it was a little boring. The ending though, hahahahah.
May 5, 2019 11:41 PM

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Gaen is so overpowered but used so well in the show, it's great
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May 25, 2019 8:25 AM

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So basically, the first minion was the cause for all the Apparition that Araragi had been facing so far, expect Black Hanekawa.

And a 'cat' that help with Shinobu fight earlier wasn't explained yet. I bet it's Black Hanekawa, though it remains vague.

Heh, Shinbou said that don't be jealous is the fact that she care both of them.

Kaiki and Gaen is a model lol. And dat Shawshank's Redemption reference.
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Aug 19, 2019 1:19 AM

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Lmao, was that Kaiki and Episode on the cover of the BL book?
Nov 14, 2019 12:15 AM

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Good banter and wordplay, cute Shinobu and Kanbaru moments too, the Cover of that Mature women's magazine was Gaen lol, the BL one was Kaiki. That cliffhanger at the end, looks like it's gonna be a fight from here on.
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Aug 14, 2020 10:56 AM

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Woah that was a lot of dialogue
Aug 25, 2020 10:02 AM

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Finalmente um episódio perfeito! Tive que reassistir para entender toda a explicação da Gae- (ops) Oshino Izuko, mas valeu a pena! Os mistérios estão se conectando, Nisio não deixa nada de fora e o humor parece mais dinâmico.

A cena do Araragi comprando o BL foi um ótimo balanço depois de tanta informação, e a aparição do primeiro servo trouxe uma curiosidade que não sentia nos episódios passados. Primeiro copia a voz e agora a aparência, quem sabe ele não pode se disfarçar de Muraragi-san?

No geral, esse episódio trouxe algo que a muito tempo me faltava.

5/5

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Holy shit, finally a perfect episode! I had to re-watch to understand the full explanation of Gae- (ops) Oshino Izuko, but it was worth it! The mysteries are connecting, Nisio leaves nothing out and the mood seems more dynamic.

The scene of Araragi buying the BL was a great balance after so much information, and the appearance of the first servant brought a curiosity that I did not feel in past episodes. First copy the voice and now the appearance, maybe he can disguise himself as Muraragi-san?

Overall, this episode brought something that I had been missing for a long time.

5/5

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Sep 19, 2020 3:01 AM

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This was yet another great episode so it was all on Gaen talking again but it was great very interesting.

The cliffhanger on that last scene was exciting.

Kanbaru and Araragi commentary stuff was so damn cute.
Oct 6, 2020 12:28 AM
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the shawshank redemption reference was funny. and uh oh, the samurai looks likes a girl lmao
Nov 1, 2020 3:28 PM

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Run, Koyomi, run!
Well, looks like the first minion has a new body, should be interesting to see what happens next.

That dude on the cover of the BL novel looks a lot like Kaiki, just saying...
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That was a fantastic episode, it's really amazing how everything just ties together. We finally found out the reason why Gaen wanted to make Shinobu a God. And I can't believe that all this time, the first aberration killer has been the specialists goal the entire time, that's fucking wild.

That second half was hilarious though lmao, Shinobu and Kanbaru interacting was something I never knew I needed so badly. Is that fucking Kaiki in that BL cover lmao, and Gaen was in one of those sexy magazines. The employees laughing at Araragi for sandwiching the BL book in sexy magazines was hilarious.

Damn, the first aberration killer has gotten a form, is that how he really looked like, or maybe like Shinobu that's just like a younger version of himself since he's still recovering power.

Pretty interesting though that Gaen said, Kagenui will never see a day where she can use her full strength. So, is Gaen like the one that cursed Kagenui to never be able to walk on the ground? That's interesting.
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Gaen explanation is explanation hard to understand but in the end of first half i was like cool i kinda get it still amazing though....
5/5
Jun 25, 2021 4:46 AM

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Did I really see Kaiki and Episode on that BL cover ? There was also Gaen on the magazines Araragi bought, but the most important is that there was freaking Kaiki and freaking Episode on a BL cover. I don't know if I want to laugh or erase my memories before my imagination tries anything.

Other than that, now it's confirmed that Kagenui has some sort of ability to resurrect people, maybe that's how Kaiki survived getting killed ?
Also, I had doubts because I didn't remember very well what happened but it is also confirmed that it is the Darkness that destroyed Araragi's and Shinobu's connection. It's surprising how casual they both are with that, especially Shinobu. Wasn't her connection to Araragi essential since she needed his energy to survive ? How come she can still move around then ? If I remember correctly, it was even stated that she was losing strength while she was kept away from him (but everyone kinda forgot about this problem as soon as it turned out the Darkness was after Hachikuji instead of Shinobu).
What's interesting though, is that at first I wondered why the Darkness separated them, but when I think about it it makes sense. In Kizumonogatari, Oshino described Araragi as "a vampire trying to behave like a human" and Shinobu as "a human trying to behave like a vampire". Considering what is the Darkness' purpose, it makes sense that it would separate them since it is said connection that made them that way. It still doesn't explain Shinobu's current state though.
Also, I don't really understand what happened in Tsukimonogatari then with him getting his powers back. But actually, I realize I'm pretty lost when it comes to this plot point about Araragi's condition as a vampire, there's a lot I have forgotten, so I should rewatch some scenes instead of complaining.

Other than that, that's once again a lot of important informations we got. So the warrior's ashes brought the necessary amount of energy for the temple to "feed" oddities again, which explains why the oddities began to appear only 15 years ago (which has me wonder, are there oddities others than the ones we know, in different places ?).
And the warrior is starting to regenerate which is why he looks the way he does at the end of the episode, it's just like what happened to Shinobu. But what's pretty ironic is that he seemed insanely powerful when he was still a shadow of himself, while now he is like a kid. If we take Shinobu for exemple, then there is no doubt that while he most likely still has some powers like the Energy Drain, he must be considerably weak. Even with the Energy Drain, it would surprise me if he easily gets back the strength he gathered back in episode 7. As I said, that's ironic. Also, that's probably just me but he didn't really leave a good impression on me at the end of this episode, he seems too much to be the typical rival character, I hope I'm wrong because with such a story, he has the potential to be interesting.

A last thing I wanted to mention is that now I more or less understand why they brought up this oddity cluster thing last episode, because the whole story is about how oddities came to gather in this city. However that doesn't explain what it really is nor what it is doing here. Apparently it isn't an actual oddity but a "nuisance", but in this context I fail to understand what it is supposed to mean. (Also, I mentionned in the last thread that the cluster thing must be related to the Darkness due to having the same kind of inscriptions written on it, but I just realized it's just what non-humanoid oddities look like.)

Well, now that there's only two episodes left I think I can safely say that this arc is, in my opinion, definitely inferior to the fantastic Sodachi arc which is disappointing but it's still pretty interesting, especially thanks to all the informations we get regarding oddities who still remain a mystery.
But what's the most disappointing is that once again, I feel like Shinobu is completely relegated to a secondary role in her own arc, even if the story technically revolves around her. It's a real shame because due to that I lost the majority of the interest I initially had in her, and I hoped for this arc to correct that but unless they provide us absolutely amazing last two episodes, it looks like that won't be the case.
Sep 18, 2021 3:41 AM
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Araragi's laugh was hilarious XD. I noticed that he laughed just like Kiss-shot did in Ougi dark when she lifted him and swung him around.

So Kiss-shot's 1st minion didn't actually die. For the past 400 years he had been burning and regenerating and now like Izuko said he travelled to this town in the form of ash. Pretty obvious that the boy in the last scene (who looks like a male edgy version of Shinobu) is him.

Episode and Kaiki on a BL cover is so randomXD
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AH so it was here in the 10th episode of Owarimonogatari where the Shawshank Redemption reference was all this time; finally I've found it. Heck yeah



So we go from finishing off the info dump from the last episode to going shopping for BL light novels. Nice


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Sep 27, 2022 9:34 PM
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So much info from Gaen, recounting the apparition stories from phoenix, cat, snail, monkey to snake. Now the significance of the shrine becomes more apparent. Oh Kanbaru and her BL novels. I have to admit (out of curiosity) busting out the Google translate for the "mature ladies" mags that Koyomi buys. "Beautiful mature women cosplay photo collection" and "thirty years old". OMG 30! Why can't I find that title at the local bookstore? LOL.
Mar 27, 2023 1:54 PM

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That reminds me of a Higher Vampire's true immortality from the Witcher. Man, I wish I could be immortal like that as well. It must be nice to be so difficult to kill.
Sep 29, 2023 10:02 AM

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I don't like how she blame Araragi and Shinobu.
Dec 10, 2023 5:03 PM

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Shinobu and Kanbaru moments were so cute ongfrfr
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