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| Well now it won't all be just one sided battles now. |
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| THAT is an episode. Powerful plot, political aspects evolving fast and a lot of character development are exactly what Gundam is all about. I'm glad that Sunrise improved the general level of the series because the 1st part (episode 1 to 13) was really not up to the Gundam standards, but now they are getting better and better... and this episode is really great. |
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NabeShogun said: Apparently Lagna is the fake GN drive producer? Which means he prolly is also giving orders to Trinity. That'll be an interesting angle to follow. He's not the producer, hes the president of one of the countries (forgot which), thus controls who the drives go to, which is why Mr. Merc wanted to see him. It is my firm belief that the Trinity faction is under the influence of 'Lord Corner, who in reality is controlled by Almark following Aeolia's plans, not the president Laguana (everytime I see that I want to call him Lasagna ^^) |
  Dibs on Ishida! |
Fai said: As far as i understood. The damage is on the whole body, due to the red gn particle radiation. In a sense, stem cells unable to recover is...bad. All I would say, that we can fully expect her to die from cancer in few months/years... Yes, that is what is hinted. The radiation from the GN particle may have cause cellular mutation in her whole body not just her arm. I wouldn't be surprised if she has cancer or a deadly disease (like leukymia) later on. OK, Here is the thing: IS IT POSSIBLE that the GN Drive given to the three countries are TAMPERED. Some kind of remote-control deactivation device can be installed. For all that we know, they could BLOW UP at crucial moment......And don't forget Nadleedh's secret weapon. I am nearly sure that GN Particles and GN Drives are KEY to changing the world. Is there some HIDDEN functions inside GN Drive, and especially the ORiGINAL ones. The original Gundams may have SECRET abilities that the red GN Drive doesn't have....Pure speculations though.... Wang liu mei says "kawaranai no nara, kowarete mo ii to (?) omou hodo ni" literally "I would even think that if the world does not change, it should get destroyed" How she stated it is PURE HATE towards the world. This is not good since she is loyal to Aeolia's plan, which hints that Aeolia's ideologies are really questionable. Really, i pity the Trinity. They are fools being played around with.....(reminds me of Raider, Calamity and Forbidden in SEED) And VEDA is revealed, THAT is SO from FOUNDATION series by Asimov....unbelievable. And the green-haired guy, everyone can see he is manipulating Alejandro Corner.... WTF do they want to do with Veda? Kinue is not confirmed to be dead yet. But from the episode preview we see Saji looking down at what? Kinue's grave? or something else? Something terrible will fall on the world (it sounds like prophecy...but too many foreshadowing anyway....) that WILL change it. Here are some examples: -all technology fails due to some permanent GN Particle shield....Not very likely because we need a second season....But this idea is inspired to me from the not-popular and short manga MARII no kanaderu ongaku by Usamaru Furuya, where a futuristic world is at peace because technology is impossible due to "Marie's music", a device disrupting all scientific achievement. -Veda planned it all, GN Drives somehow comes into play and get all weapon technology disabled.....well I don't know HOW.... -Mass destruction of the world...maybe a Genesis-like weapon all over again???? (Wang liu mei will choose this one for sure) -Veda = Skynet = super AI take-over of the world..... Now the question is: what kind of cliffhanger is going to happen at the end of season 1? Is it a time gap? Is it a Code Geass style cliffhanger? This is getting me fired up.... |
wakka9caFeb 26, 2008 7:43 PM
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wakka9ca said: Fai said: As far as i understood. The damage is on the whole body, due to the red gn particle radiation. In a sense, stem cells unable to recover is...bad. All I would say, that we can fully expect her to die from cancer in few months/years... Now the question is: what kind of cliffhanger is going to happen at the end of season 1? Is it a time gap? Is it a Code Geass style cliffhanger? This is getting me fired up.... I also agree, considering these particles come from a 'solar furnace', the sun's fusion is similar to the reaction of a nuclear bomb which has deadly after effects for the still living, it would effect the body in some way similar to the bomb. I'll also go and post my theories on possible endings/plot left in the 5 episodes (which are probably going to be a long shot off) to S1 since I'm feeling crazy, With each passing ep I'll try to update it accordingly... The plot: --season ending 1: Veda (#1) is destroyed (possibly causing CB's android to lose his pwnage power), throwing back the only true 'threat' to the world, CB into the stone age -Cause:With Lord Corner finally getting physical access to Veda(#1, I have reason to believe there is another 'backup'), he now has substantial leverage against CB --SE2: The nations disband the alliance -Cause 1: The merc for his own reasons betrays the new Gundams -Cause 2: The alliances ever so naive in 'destroying' the Trinitys, believe that they are powerful enough to take on the remaining 4 Gundams on their own -Cause 3: CB is actually captured, leaving little reason to have the alliance --SE3: The solar tower is attacked, turning peace into ruins -Cause: Unknown, Some guy gets drunk and pushes the self-destruct button >< Along the way/towards the end: Ep 21: the new gundams attack CB, ending of ep: all of the CB gundam/most have been taken out Ep 22: Saji Time! XD, Saji's role for the season ending begins to take shape, 3/4 of the gundams are taken, leaving one left alone somehow for a 'GN arms' Ep 23: Trinty group is possibly shown still alive, turns out whats-her-face saves their lives somehow, GN arms is given to the remaining CB gundam, pilot makes plans to save the rest... Ep 24: The rescue attempt is made ending on either failure, and ends up teaming up with Trinity, or success..., more Saji/Lord Corner time, possibly more WTH happened on Jupiter Ep 25: See season endings above..., part of Aeolia's plan is finally revealed in the beginning, or at least vaguely hinted at and woot!, that was fun, I don't think I've been this hyped since watching Code Geass, here's to an unpredictable ending... |
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Fai said: As far as i understood. The damage is on the whole body, due to the red gn particle radiation. In a sense, stem cells unable to recover is...bad. All I would say, that we can fully expect her to die from cancer in few months/years... Thats what I'm thinking too, since it would make no sense if it only effected one of her arms. Stem cells are similar throughout your body so if it was only effecting one of her arms they could have just used cells from her other arm and re-grew it. Poor girl :(. |
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| They keep Veda in the floor? What if someone spills a drink on it? |
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Sukotsutsu said: NabeShogun said: Apparently Lagna is the fake GN drive producer? Which means he prolly is also giving orders to Trinity. That'll be an interesting angle to follow. He's not the producer, hes the president of one of the countries (forgot which), thus controls who the drives go to, which is why Mr. Merc wanted to see him. It is my firm belief that the Trinity faction is under the influence of 'Lord Corner, who in reality is controlled by Almark following Aeolia's plans, not the president Laguana (everytime I see that I want to call him Lasagna ^^) It's my understanding from ep 19 that Harvey is the president of Linear Train Enterprises. Ali Al-Saachez also asks to be placed in any military, implying that Harvey is shipping suits to more than one country. Ep 19 also contained dialouge implying that Harvey could produce and move all of the suits at his leisure. That being said, I retract my statement that Laguna's giving orders...he kinda seems like a middle-man. I'd agree that Corner's prolly indirectly giving orders to Trinity. I'd be interested to see what he meant by the "suit in one piece" comment, though. Also, if the green-haired guy hacked Veda, I'd be curious to know what Nena was doing in Veda... |
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| Its getting interesting!!! |
| The best part for me in this episode : Graham : I refuse the offer. I will fight a Gundam with the Flag. !1111oneoneone |
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| It looks like everything is finally start to unfold now. Now Celestial Being and Trinity have to rely on their skill now, if they really want to get away from battles unscathed now. |
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Alpha_522 said: Considering he owned the Trinities by himself with just a flag, yesOh yeah forgot about that part..do you think he will win? |
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| I think that his flag might get modified still.. and what about Ali Al Sarshes |
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DreamScaR said: I think that his flag might get modified still.. and what about Ali Al Sarshes I think he said something about wanting 1 of the new suit too, lol And Patrick, he doesn't even care lulz |
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| i havent watched it yet coz i'm waiting for menclave <3 T_______T |
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| finally watched this episode since I'm following menclave, and I gotta say, this was an awesome episode. Such a great setup for the rest of the show. Onto ep 21~ |
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Faust721 said: finally watched this episode since I'm following menclave, and I gotta say, this was an awesome episode. Such a great setup for the rest of the show. Onto ep 21~ Ditto. I didn't expect another person to die and that Mei would have such a distorted vision of the Earth though. Here goes the next episode~ |
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| Menclave's release took longer than usual but definitely worth it^^, Well anyways this was an awesome episode, earth military forces now also have GN Drives but at least it seems they have the same ones as Trinity and not like the original CB's. Saji's sister is now probably dead so thats probably going to push him over the edge. And Veda's headquarters was discovered so who knows whats going to happen now. So many things are going on, I can't wait to see what happens next^^ ..well now to episode 21~ |
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| wow to think that the actual veda would be unprotected. dont these guys have higher ups? and what the hell is up with the power of these guy's eyes? |
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djinn_690 said: Like people said... they could be androids.wow to think that the actual veda would be unprotected. dont these guys have higher ups? and what the hell is up with the power of these guy's eyes? |
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| I'm just glad that fights won't be over so quick now we have some Gundam on Gundam action! Still, I like how it took everybody about five minutes to get used to the new suits. They must have read "Gundam for dummies". |
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| Now that everyone and their mother has a Gundam (or is currently building one), things should be a lot less one sided and hopefully more interesting. Saji's life is slowly becoming more and more tragic. Poor kid. |
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| Poor Saji! It seems that he is on the brink of transforming into something. Tieria smiled. omg. XD CB is more twisted than I thought  |
kaien_387May 24, 2009 8:38 AM
| So is that Laguna guy behind the new Gundams or what? He doesn't seem like much to me. And why did he gave engines to the governments whoever is behind this. And is it part of the original plan? That UN guy is doing something suspicious now and that green hair guy next to him is even more suspicious. What are they planning? wakka9ca said: Fai said: As far as i understood. The damage is on the whole body, due to the red gn particle radiation. In a sense, stem cells unable to recover is...bad. All I would say, that we can fully expect her to die from cancer in few months/years... Yes, that is what is hinted. The radiation from the GN particle may have cause cellular mutation in her whole body not just her arm. I wouldn't be surprised if she has cancer or a deadly disease (like leukymia) later on. OK, Here is the thing: IS IT POSSIBLE that the GN Drive given to the three countries are TAMPERED. Some kind of remote-control deactivation device can be installed. For all that we know, they could BLOW UP at crucial moment......And don't forget Nadleedh's secret weapon. I am nearly sure that GN Particles and GN Drives are KEY to changing the world. Is there some HIDDEN functions inside GN Drive, and especially the ORiGINAL ones. The original Gundams may have SECRET abilities that the red GN Drive doesn't have....Pure speculations though.... Wang liu mei says "kawaranai no nara, kowarete mo ii to (?) omou hodo ni" literally "I would even think that if the world does not change, it should get destroyed" How she stated it is PURE HATE towards the world. This is not good since she is loyal to Aeolia's plan, which hints that Aeolia's ideologies are really questionable. Really, i pity the Trinity. They are fools being played around with.....(reminds me of Raider, Calamity and Forbidden in SEED) And VEDA is revealed, THAT is SO from FOUNDATION series by Asimov....unbelievable. And the green-haired guy, everyone can see he is manipulating Alejandro Corner.... WTF do they want to do with Veda? Kinue is not confirmed to be dead yet. But from the episode preview we see Saji looking down at what? Kinue's grave? or something else? Something terrible will fall on the world (it sounds like prophecy...but too many foreshadowing anyway....) that WILL change it. Here are some examples: -all technology fails due to some permanent GN Particle shield....Not very likely because we need a second season....But this idea is inspired to me from the not-popular and short manga MARII no kanaderu ongaku by Usamaru Furuya, where a futuristic world is at peace because technology is impossible due to "Marie's music", a device disrupting all scientific achievement. -Veda planned it all, GN Drives somehow comes into play and get all weapon technology disabled.....well I don't know HOW.... -Mass destruction of the world...maybe a Genesis-like weapon all over again???? (Wang liu mei will choose this one for sure) -Veda = Skynet = super AI take-over of the world..... Now the question is: what kind of cliffhanger is going to happen at the end of season 1? Is it a time gap? Is it a Code Geass style cliffhanger? This is getting me fired up.... That was interesting. So is that Laguna guy behind the new Gundams or what? He doesn't seem like much to me. And why did he gave engines to the governments whoever is behind this. And is it part of the original plan? That UN guy is doing something suspicious now and that green hair guy next to him is even more suspicious. What are they planning? Is Saji's sister dead? |
| I must admit I didn't really like this episode as much... |
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| Ah CB is totally fucked now.. The nest 5 episodes are gonna be pretty intense. |
| who the hell is Saji he is not jezus :p |
| poor Saji. first Louise broke up with him and now Kinue died.. the lightning really strikes him hard. |
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| RIP Kinue Crossroad. Finally. The fight is going to be taken back to the Gundams. And Graham is going to the the only one to survive the inevitable "boobytrap" built into the thrity GN drives. |
chiquit0621 said: poor Saji. first Louise broke up with him and now Kinue died.. the lightning really strikes him hard. And about Louise. It was Saji's choice to go away from her. The reasons why Louise said to him about dreams and stuff was clear as water, she doesn't want him to ruin his life because of her. But if he truly loves her, there should not be any problems, he should be able to accept her even now. The fact that he actually left her means that whatever he cares about himself more than about her, or he is way more stupid than it seems from the first look. Actually it looks like both of these can be applied to Saji. There is no such thing as "my dream is the same as yours". Something that isn't yours, can't be called a dream to begin with. What it really means is that all Louise's dreams was shattered. Now it looks like Soji will be a Gundam pilot. Why it feels like only on the verge of death he'll realize that Louise and noting else was his real dream? Maybe Louise will be able to live up to that point and Saji will be able to say something like "Forgive m that I left you, I was so stupid..." but honestly, now that she lost everything it is better to die. |
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| When the journalist gets in the tiger's den... Curiously she didn't jump out from the car. |
| damn that veda hacker |
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| Shit just got real for Celestial Being. |
| Saji's sister had it coming. Her quest for "uncovering the truth" was dumb. There are impossible things in this world; one of them is poking in the garbage of the most powerful people on the planet and thinking you will walk away untouched and a hero. |
| No, don't take away Kinue too :(. Looks like the stakes are rising now that all sides have their GN powered mobile suits. That green haired guy remains suspicious, I think he may even be using his so called "master." Also that Wang girl seems to have a screw loose. |
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| I'm not sure i know whats happpening but it will be revealed soon enough. Poor Saji. First his girl and now his sister. |
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Marzan said: I'm not sure i know whats happpening but it will be revealed soon enough. Poor Saji. First his girl and now his sister. Pretty much my words exactly. |
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| Really, you're just going to get into some stranger's car and ask him direct questions like that? Get out of here. |
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| The funny thing is that the fights were only really one sided for maybe the first few fights until they showed that normal pilots with underpowered suits are fully capable of outmaneuvering and disabling them. Now it's just a wrecking crew fight. |
| Oh lovely, now the world has 30 gundams to fight CB...that's check. |
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| That was a good episode. Poor Saji can't catch a break, and now the military has solar drives. This should make things a lot more interesting. |
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| Yeah that was a dumb move, Kinue :/ Poking around in serious business is dangerous, although I know she knew that. Still... People saying she's not dead yet, I think that's a possibility. But if she really isn't dead yet, that'd be really unprofessional of Ali. Then again, it's already unprofessional when he left the scene without confirming Kinue's death. Wang Liu Mei really hates Earth's current state that much huh. She's the most radical character so far. What a reveal that the dude with Alejandro hacked into Veda/is a cyborg/is actually part of the plan??? No wonder the "hacking" was part of the plan. |
| C'mon she didn't deserve to die |
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| Did Saji's oneesan get offed for real? Guess we will see soon enough. Wang Liu Mei is me on bad days lol, can't say I don't understand her feelings. |
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