IntroverTurtle said: One Piece already is. DBZ at its peak is nowhere near OP. lmfaooo I cant with you delusional OP stans   I bet you weren't even born when DBZ was at its peak so you have no idea what sort of groundbreaking dominance that was DrGeroCreation said: The Dragon Ball manga had higher manga sales but One Piece surpassed it because the Dragon Ball manga has been finished for years. If the manga was still ungoing I could see it surpassing One Piece. Sazae san is only popular in Japan. People only bring up manga sales but I bring up everything for worldwide popularity tv sales, video game sales etc. you tell 'em! Isterio said: When the Government of Japan deems the series a national treasure and gives it his own day. May the 9th is officially recognized as Goku day, referencing Dragon Ball. No other series reached that amount of recognition One Piece maybe will, the end. As for impact, people could argue about Miyazaki or Gundamn,yet none of those got a special day dedicated to them though the goverment, neither are they as widely known on a global scale or produce the same amouns of Merchandise. Dragon Ball is the Star wars of Japan,like it or hate it, it´s part of global culture now, other series with Tv ratings in the 50s aren´t recongnizeable like this. Now...isnt this the true? When will Luffy get his own day? When?? And your comparison with Star Wars is on point. Too bad these One Piece fanboys are to blinded to realize that their fave series will never surprass DBZ...poor them. Lemme pray for a second |
RedRoseFring said: Kai (which is mainly just a shortened version of DBZ) has since it's debut to it's end been in the top 10 tv rankings in Japan and has done well in tv ratings on Nicktoons, the Cw's Vortex and currently on Toonami. Kai's popularity on Nicktoons and the Vortex showed how it's even popular among the new generation.Even then, people born nowadays and the newer generation are not nearly as enthralled with it. http://corp.toei-anim.co.jp/english/press/2010/06/_gets_off_to_a_good_start_on_n.html http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=131068 |
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DrGeroCreation said: Pokemon is more popular worldwide but One Piece will never surpass DBZ worldwide. DrGeroCreation said: All the countries in green DBZ has been broadcasted in. http://www.saiyanisland.com/2012/09/dragon-ball-z-2013-movie-receiving-government-funding/ https://www.thecnl.com/FunimationDec2014Catalog.pdf "Dragon Ball Z is the number 1 selling anime brand of all time. Over 25 million DVDs and Blurays of the Dragon Ball franchise have been sold in the US." (Source: Nielsen Videoscan) "Over 15 million videogames of the Dragon Ball franchise have been sold in the US with over 40 million sold worldwide." "Over 5 billion in Dragon Ball merchandise has been sold worldwide." LOL even Kai reks One Piece (uncensored Funimation One Piece not 4Kids One Piece) in the Toonami ratings http://toonami.wikia.com/wiki/Toonami_Ratings DrGeroCreation said: RedRoseFring said: Kai (which is mainly just a shortened version of DBZ) has since it's debut been in the top 10 tv rankings in Japan and has done well in tv ratings on Nicktoons, the Cw's Vortex and currently on Toonami. Kai's popularity on Nicktoons and the Vortex showed how it's even popular among the new generation.Even then, people born nowadays and the newer generation are not nearly as enthralled with it. http://corp.toei-anim.co.jp/english/press/2010/06/_gets_off_to_a_good_start_on_n.html http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=131068 serve those asswhooping receipts! *slow clap* help them see the light |
| One Piece is more popular than DBZ in Japan but I really don't see how it will become more popular than DBZ worldwide or even in just the west. |
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| DB/Z isn't the best selling manga in the west. At least not in America. |
Isterio said: Nah, Naruto is VIZ Media's best selling manga, and VIZ Media is also DB/Z's publisher.It is Naruto has yet to surpass it. And no AOT isn´t even near close. |
| I'd say DBZ is popular because of nostalgia not because it's a masterpiece. It created the basis for Shonen manga, which is why it's called "legend". In terms of story, There are far better anime of course. One Piece is as successful as DBZ though, no more no less. In terms of popularity worldwide: dBZ>Naruto>One Piece but in Japan it's DBz=one piece |
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j0x said: i got no idea but the future is full of possibilities DrGeroCreation said: Pokemon is more popular worldwide but One Piece will never surpass DBZ worldwide. LOL even Kai reks One Piece (uncensored Funimation One Piece not 4Kids One Piece) in the Toonami ratings http://toonami.wikia.com/wiki/Toonami_Ratings the numbers have spoken os only us tcv rtaings ocunt now bias mutch |
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DrGeroCreation said: One Piece is more popular than DBZ in Japan but I really don't see how it will become more popular than DBZ worldwide or even in just the west. That's not true.. NOBODY looks at the TV ratings? DBZ had a lot higher TV ratings. One Piece will never even reach Bleach's popularity in the west. Let alone Naruto's and DBZ's. Dragonball is a worldwide phenomenon. One Piece isn't. TonyTheme said: DB/Z isn't the best selling manga in the west. At least not in America. It is actually. Naruto and Dragonball manga sales are almost identical. Which cements how Naruto was the next DBZ in the west. In France they are both 17 million. DB's sales outside of Japan = 73 million, Naruto's = 70 million. |
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j0x said: i got no idea but the future is full of possibilities DrGeroCreation said: Pokemon is more popular worldwide but One Piece will never surpass DBZ worldwide. LOL even Kai reks One Piece (uncensored Funimation One Piece not 4Kids One Piece) in the Toonami ratings http://toonami.wikia.com/wiki/Toonami_Ratings the numbers have spoken onne reasin i think i mor fare ot use Japanese Tv Ratings is all anime that is prime time netowkr tv anime is shown on netword Tv at prime time i refuse to use us ratings cause of the fact brodcast times are so fucked up beyond the pail of goood sense lo prime time anime getting shown at late night is stuid and ot my knwing kai was shown proime time on nickaloen to was iit not |
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| How does comparing DBS and DB movies to the current one piece fair? Of course one piece would be more popular NOW. With a still milked to death running manga and running TV anime. That's ridiculous. DBZ when it was airing was significantly more popular than One Piece now. |
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FGAU1912 said: shintai88 said: Pretty much this. Though even now DBZ is slowly fading in the Asian Market. Mainly cause the generation that watched it originally have grown up and are focusing on newer works. this says very differnt http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html Db isnot fading its still top three its and one piece o hold a world record for biggest selling comic by a single artist how can you debate that you cannot i happen to be a fan of most of the top 20 listed mang on that link but fingues are blck and white That list has nothing to do with the World, it's just Japan. |
ghoul91 said: FGAU1912 stop dragging Dragonball Z RIGHT NOW huh what |
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FGAU1912 said: ghoul91 said: FGAU1912 stop dragging Dragonball Z RIGHT NOW huh what you're serving some irrelevant receipts to discredit DBZ and ruin its status...stop |
ghoul91 said: FGAU1912 said: huh what you're serving some irrelevant receipts to discredit DBZ and ruin its status...stop im not so you cannot take facts your bieng bais |
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| One Piece was ridiculously behind all other series outside Japan, because of 4kids kiddy version full of ridiculous censors, making potential viewers lose interest. The fact that One Piece managed to make a come back and become one of the "big 3" later on shows just how good it is. But another "problem" for OP is the artstyle. Many people just can't get used to it. Even I only ever started watching it in German TV back then, because my brother convinced me that it's actually worth a try and I was hooked quite fast (thankfully OP was an exception in German because it was directly translated Jap -> Ger, instead of the usual Jap -> Eng -> Ger). But that was later. Dragon Ball however, by that time, was already airing multiple times, so it had a much better chance to create a nostalgia effect than OP. |
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Agafin said: DBZ is an anime, why are people talking about manga here. HaXXspetten said: But OP has two times more volumes though...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga Still 90 million behind One Piece I'm afraid Exactly. DB sold an average of 5.42 million copies per-volume, while One Piece has sold an average of 4.05 million copies. so which is truly more successful? Compare both to Tezuka's Black Jack, and they both fail, though. Black Jack's 17 volumes sold appox. 176 million copies, giving it an average of 10.35 million per-volume. |
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| For all the people that are using one piece manga sales as a indication that it's more popular than dbz. Please f***ing stop! Not because 3+ million people went out and bought all 70+ volume of one piece makes it more popular than dbz in Japan, with a population of around 130 million people. 3+ million people is basically what makes one piece the best selling manga, also add to the fact that its a very long series which means more volumes equal more sales. When you look at the bigger picture, the manga sales just shows us that one piece has done the best Job in getting more people to read its manga version than the others. Nothing more. So basically one piece sells 3 million per Volume, and DB sold like I don't know 2 million per volume. One piece sold better, so one piece is more popular than dbz in Japan, home of 130 million people. Makes sense. ;) The fact that Japan has a goku day is more than enough proof that dbz is more popular. The entire Japanese population knows about goku day, and every generation that cones after will know about that day and know what goku day is about. It also should be well known that dbz is well known for its anime and not its manga. Heck every series is more known for its anime version than its manga version. Which again prove how irrelevant the manga sales discussion is. |
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vigorousjammer said: Compare both to Tezuka's Black Jack, and they both fail, though. Black Jack's 17 volumes sold appox. 176 million copies, giving it an average of 10.35 million per-volume. Black Jack "only" sold 45 million copies Wikipedia is wrong and still use the old numbers which were wrong |
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vigorousjammer said: One Piece is because a lot of DBs sales happened after it ended, it would be hard if not impossible for any ongoing manga series to match up with the average volume sales of a series that has been over for decades. A better way to do it would be to compare their highest selling volumes or what their volumes were selling in first week or month sales when both were at their peak(hint hint OP has the record for highest first week and first month sales). Just dividing by volumes won't necessarily give you the right answer.Agafin said: DBZ is an anime, why are people talking about manga here. But OP has two times more volumes though... Exactly. DB sold an average of 5.42 million copies per-volume, while One Piece has sold an average of 4.05 million copies. so which is truly more successful? Compare both to Tezuka's Black Jack, and they both fail, though. Black Jack's 17 volumes sold appox. 176 million copies, giving it an average of 10.35 million per-volume. |
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TheNextChamp said: Black Jack "only" sold 45 million copies Wikipedia is wrong and still use the old numbers which were wrong Ah, okay. whoops. xD FGAU1912 said: Like iv posted, any time is the most accurate for manga cause it's how it's judged in the industry cause especially in Japan, a lot of people just pick up a volume and read it right there in the store and put it back. So, using circulation figures is more accurate for things. Gosh, your post was hard to decipher, but I agree, for sure. I'd be interested to see the number of copies in circulation for different series. |
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FGAU1912 said: keragamming said: For all the people that are using one piece manga sales as a indication that it's more popular than dbz. Please f***ing stop! Not because 3+ million people went out and bought all 70+ volume of one piece makes it more popular than dbz in Japan, with a population of around 130 million people. 3+ million people is basically what makes one piece the best selling manga, also add to the fact that its a very long series which means more volumes equal more sales. When you look at the bigger picture, the manga sales just shows us that one piece has done the best Job in getting more people to read its manga version than the others. Nothing more. So basically one piece sells 3 million per Volume, and DB sold like I don't know 2 million per volume. One piece sold better, so one piece is more popular than dbz in Japan, home of 130 million people. Makes sense. ;) The fact that Japan has a goku day is more than enough proof that dbz is more popular. The entire Japanese population knows about goku day, and every generation that cones after will know about that day and know what goku day is about. It also should be well known that dbz is well known for its anime and not its manga. Heck every series is more known for its anime version than its manga version. Which again prove how irrelevant the manga sales discussion is. so you doubt a guiness book of world recatds record now so are you next going to say Thriller iis not in biggest selling album of all time then or Usain bolt is not the fastest man alive exapct the fact hat one piece is teh biggest selling Comic by a single creator of all time cuase it is fact not bais not nothing it fact just as is the fatc that Sazae san is the longest running animated show of all time i come at you with unbaised fact cuse im a fna of both the franchises in question You miss the point. I'm not denying anything about one piece. One piece is the best selling manga, its the king when it comes to manga sales, blah, blah we all know that already. Its proven fact. But, what you don't seem to realise is that op wasn't specifically talking about manga sales, he was talking overall. Not just manga sales. So to me, its silly to say one piece is more popular than dbz strictly on only manga sales. When anime is even a more popular medium especially for dbz. |
| No there won't ever be an anime that is just as popular but in terms of success, One Piece has done a good job exceeding it. |
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ClockworkRiddle said: I agree, everyone knows pokemon, especially the symbolic Pikachu. DBZ is known amongst Teens and young adults. Whereas my f**king nan knows who pikachu is, Pokemon is better known in general.I'd say pokémon is a much bigger export product though, lol. |
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Beater_Luke said: ClockworkRiddle said: I agree, everyone knows pokemon, especially the symbolic Pikachu. DBZ is known amongst Teens and young adults. Whereas my f**king nan knows who pikachu is, Pokemon is better known in general.I'd say pokémon is a much bigger export product though, lol. The milking is not allowing Ash to win his first championship at this rate. |
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wasif_khan said: Most much popular DBZ is.. as a matter of fact it is shit... along with all bigger series. I am watching One Piece and it made me realise that Smaller series are much better than longer ones Shit? Thats why it has inspired the biggest mangaka authors? Because its shit? I am talking about Anime here.... almost 1:1 ratio of anime with manga is shit thing they did... 20 minutes anime to 20 pages of chapter.... so boring episodes. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
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vigorousjammer said: Agafin said: DBZ is an anime, why are people talking about manga here. But OP has two times more volumes though... Exactly. DB sold an average of 5.42 million copies per-volume, while One Piece has sold an average of 4.05 million copies. so which is truly more successful? Compare both to Tezuka's Black Jack, and they both fail, though. Black Jack's 17 volumes sold appox. 176 million copies, giving it an average of 10.35 million per-volume. To be fair, I don't think the number provided by Guinness for One Piece is worldwide, it seems to be just the Japanese, but I'm not sure. Either way, OP's average might start to decrease since the first volume prints are down to 3.8 million (was 4.05 million at its peak). |
| In any case, if we're talking on a global scale, between both anime and manga, I think Lupin is probably the most popular... I'm just guessing, though. |
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Grey-Zone said: ashfrliebert said: Can't really say I know world wide though, but I'm pretty sure here in America--Dragon Ball is much more well-known than One Piece-I do believe even Naruto is more well known. And I do believe Dragon Ball has sorta introduced most non-native people to anime, or at least from what I've seen. As I said: because One Piece was licensed by 4kids. Naruto and Dragon Ball were licensed by others, so they did not fall into hell. That's a cool fact, but it'd be great if we can stop being so subjective about an objective situation. Anyway, the big question is whether or not the Pokemon anime is bigger than the Dragon Ball anime overseas, I don't think anything else is a contender? I don't know, I don't live in Canada. |
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ghoul91 said: Beater_Luke said: I agree, everyone knows pokemon, especially the symbolic Pikachu. DBZ is known amongst Teens and young adults. Whereas my f**king nan knows who pikachu is, Pokemon is better known in general. Shouldnt Digimon be then also somewhere near the top? Its almost as known as Pokemon I think the Top5 most known anime series (on a global note) are Dragonball/Dragonball Z, Pokemon, Digimon, Sailor Moon and Naruto YOU HAVE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD! |
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