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Nov 19, 2009 4:58 PM

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Some are just good video editing skills.
I don't know how to describe this one


Hahaha neat.


That one's quite a classic... 'cause it's so farkin' weird. XD
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Nov 19, 2009 5:00 PM

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If done right, AMVs can get really creative. If you take the time to actually plan it out and put it together, it can become extremely amazing. There's a reason different AMVs get different ratings. Some are just bad and some are really amazing and well put together.

So they took clips from an anime. Oh well. Doesn't make it bad and not creative. It's actually alot harder than you would think to take clips together, add effects, etc..and make it look good. Let's not forget that some go above and beyond and take it into programs such as After Effects and add a wide variety of effects that are absolutley gorgous.

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Nov 19, 2009 5:03 PM

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AMVs are okay. Not the biggest fan, but I don't hate them. Some of them are really well made.
Nov 19, 2009 5:10 PM

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brinan said:
I hate them for several reasons, the people creating them think their the most creative people in the world, when all they do is link a bunch of random clips together and then add music like death metal. Yeah, your really creative. Add the fact that most of the people respond to these videos like the creators have done something truely amazing-- worthy of worship.. it just adds to my hate.


Oh yea. Let's address that part:

There's a difference between praising and giving compliments -- vs -- false praise to avoid hurting someone's feelings.

In fact, you can see this pattern in the fanfiction and fanart circles. I don't even write fanfiction or draw my own fanart, yet I'm aware of this kind of behavior. These are the kind of people who likely do their own set of "work" just to get praised. At the same time, they do not want to be criticized (you suck) or critiqued (you can do this and this better). Anyone who can't handle that has no business making anything.

If anything, withholding critique or criticism to anyone is a disservice. It prevents them from actually getting better or from having the motivation to become better. I'm not saying that it is good to "discourage". Give credit where credit is due, after all. If you critique or criticize with the intent of helping someone, that's fine.

By the way, I got criticized for my posting style around here. Well, to that...

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Nov 19, 2009 5:12 PM

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This one is pretty good (and old).




Most of the so called AMV out there use the "favorite song + favorite animu" formula and are a huge waste of bandwidth.
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Nov 19, 2009 6:17 PM

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As somewhat hinted before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with AMVs in general, and no real reason to hate all of them based on a single segment, no matter how prevalent that segment is. While it's still subjective, gross generalizations do not make an effective argument for anything. That's just being discriminatory.
In the end, AMVs are like any other media. More than likely, you will dislike far more of what's out there than you will like, so it simply becomes an issue of sifting through.

That being said, there is indeed an issue of improved technology making it easier to create and "market" AMVs, thus allowing legions of fans who would otherwise never get to square one to churn out something and distribute it. That's life, and it's not unusual. It happened with fandubs too, and I've seen the same phenomenon with low-budget films - now video store shelves are flooded with abysmal DVR releases that wouldn't rate MST3K treatment, when it used to be relatively easy to find something at least passably entertaining. That's all just one more price of progress.

In the old days, it required a great deal of knowledge, and even specialized equipment, to create an AMV - the concept and practice have existed since the VHS era. People would often spend weeks working on a single project, making sure to get things just right. The product thus became a display of skill and talent, and, of course, became competitive. And for those who dislike the "junk" on sites like youtube, you need only look in the places where these old-school creators have historically prevailed, and the degree of competitiveness found among such technical achievers remains. Conventions are a good example of this. You can also go to sites like animemusicvideos.org, which are more specialized and have several features to make finding a jem that much easier. While a minority even here, you will still almost certainly find a very large number of AMVs worth watching.

As for the flood of AMVs in youtube crowding out what you want to look for, there are several search tricks to filter them out with a significant level of success. I've never had significant problems, even when I was looking for a specific AMV. After all, I don't search for DBZ/Naruto to Linkin Park.

Just off the top of my head (and solely using youtube), I can bring out a decent-sized list of AMVs I like, though in every case, I admit I found it elsewhere and DLed a much higher quality version. Some of these directed me to artists and songs I'd never know otherwise, and a few, like the Angelic Layer and Noir ones, introduced me to a series.

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I love AMV's, the good ones anyway. If you go to youtube and look at my favorites all you will find is amv's of the highest quality, and the none amv videos I favorite.
Nov 19, 2009 7:39 PM

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OP, I see where you're coming from. Terrible mediocre AMVs are a dime a dozen. There's nothing I hate more than a friend telling me "WHAT THIS IT'S SO CUTE, YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT~" when it's a badly strung together sequence of scenes that doesn't even sync with the music. >.> Plus subtitles. Plus non-coherent.

There are however some good AMVs out there. :3 I don't wanna link them all so I'll just link my favourite.



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Nov 19, 2009 7:41 PM

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Sayalol said:
So they took clips from an anime. Oh well. Doesn't make it bad and not creative. It's actually alot harder than you would think to take clips together, add effects, etc..and make it look good. Let's not forget that some go above and beyond and take it into programs such as After Effects and add a wide variety of effects that are absolutley gorgous.


A good example of this is Whisper Of The Beast by Scorpions ULTD. It's a AMV winner from long ago.



Which took the effects part to the next level and beyond IMO. Thought there's plenty of other examples here... I just especially love this one.
Nov 19, 2009 8:50 PM

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Some AMV are good, but some are just cheap since they don't really do anything except mash a bunch of scenes together and play a song.
Nov 19, 2009 10:34 PM

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Yeah, suppose i can agree with the general consensus, not all AMVs are god awful. Condemning the entire practice would probably be wrong. And that good AMVs are vastly vastly outnumbered by bad ones, which can give the wrong impression. Because of that however i probably won't go out of my way to look for the few good ones.

Rather spend my time watching real anime honestly! But stupid short little videos like that are always good for when your bored. Was a few decent ones in this thread, the ones i bothered to look at.. at least.

On a different note, surprised that majority of people who responded saw generally where i was coming from, and didn't flame and pick apart my post like that cute little fellow on page 1. As my initial post did contain alot of hatred and biased-ness. (not that i'm taking back anything i said) Must mean a good community here. (for the most part:) )
Nov 19, 2009 10:36 PM

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I'm going to make one now!

Right now..and show you how bad they can be !

edit: here we go

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Heh, was that in response to me? Won't accomplish anything, as i already know how depressingly atrocious they can be. Though you should make one and post it on youtube, you'll probably get positive posts no matter how bad it is :D
Nov 19, 2009 10:53 PM

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brinan said:
Heh, was that in response to me? Won't accomplish anything, as i already know how depressingly atrocious they can be. Though you should make one and post it on youtube, you'll probably get positive posts no matter how bad it is :D


Nah not to you, just the fans out there :D
Nov 20, 2009 12:13 AM
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I am kind of impartial to AMVs. If it wasn't for Princess Maker - Petite Princess Yucie I would have never of discovered fansubs and if it wasn't for Carol of the Cute Ones - Various I never would have watched Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne.

Actually before I discovered better methods of discovering good series, one of the main ways I found shows to watch was to watch (usually mediocre) mix series AMVs and see if any of the shows interested me. If I end up watching a bad AMV I can usually at least amuse myself by seeing what scenes I recognise and remember.
Although there are the extreme bottom of the barrel AMVs which I can't even do that with like the ones which just show a bunch of magical girl stock footage.
Nov 20, 2009 6:13 AM

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Everyone keeps posting amv's so I'm gonna post to :)




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Nov 20, 2009 7:02 AM

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SquareZ said:
Everyone keeps posting amv's so I'm gonna post to :)




Fan service


First one was cheesy, but better than...

...the second one which was very truly terrible.

BUT DON'T WORRY GUYS I WILL FIX THIS





Also

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If you want really good shit though, MADs made completely from scratch are where it's at, where even the song is original:


AMAZING


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ShadowbladeEdge said:
SquareZ said:
Everyone keeps posting amv's so I'm gonna post to :)




Fan service
I hope you were using these as examples of how crappy AMVs can be, because they're perfect ones.


Subtitles - Present
Unrelated/Unfitting music - Present
Bonus: Spanish subtitles - Present

He's right, they're awful.
Nov 20, 2009 7:20 AM

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ShadowbladeEdge said:
SquareZ said:
Everyone keeps posting amv's so I'm gonna post to :)




Fan service
I hope you were using these as examples of how crappy AMVs can be, because they're perfect ones.


Well the first one I kinda enjoyed and yes the second was a how not to :D
Nov 20, 2009 7:21 AM

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this is one I really like
Most people might not like the music :D
Nov 20, 2009 7:23 AM

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I am indifferent.
Nov 20, 2009 7:24 AM

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For some good stuff, try some Touhou MADs.


Agree. Here's a good one I found recently

Nov 20, 2009 7:27 AM

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This is my favorite kind, a song that's unrelated to the show, but tells you what it's really like. :D
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Nov 20, 2009 7:33 AM
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I believe it's already been said that some are good, but the majority is bad.
Nov 20, 2009 7:37 AM

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Amvs with subs drive me up the wall. And the use of angsty music.

Fantasia was the best amv ever.

lol are you takling about that disney movie?
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Nov 20, 2009 8:50 AM

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I do not hate them, but its true there are some shitty AMV's with creators who think they are very creative and such. In my opinion most of them are bad, but there are some I like.. its not very easy to make a good one, I actually have respect for people who put alot of time in a good AMV =)
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1a2a3a4a said:
Hotstrawberry said:

Fantasia was the best amv ever.

lol are you takling about that disney movie?


Mickey Mouse with a funny hate, dancing brooms and a castle. What's not to like?

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Sasu-neko said:
KyuuA4 said:
For some good stuff, try some Touhou MADs.


Agree. Here's a good one I found recently



Alright. Before this thread becomes a -- LOOK AT THIS AMV THREAD -- I'll ask this question:

Why is this video "creative"?
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Nov 20, 2009 12:06 PM

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For the most part, I don't like/watch AMVs, but there were a couple I liked,
there was an evangelion Bohemian Rhapsody one and an Evangelion 99 red balloons one.

Also, I've seen all the AMV hells.
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Nov 20, 2009 12:28 PM

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ShadowbladeEdge said:
If you want really good shit though, MADs made completely from scratch are where it's at, where even the song is original:


Wow, that's one of the coolest AMV's I've seen in a while.
Nov 20, 2009 12:39 PM

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All i got to say is, at least AMV's having moving pictures like those crappy ASSMV's. (anime slide shows)

And you probably just watch a lot of the overrated AMV's like that skittle one or a bunch of linkin park crap lol.
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Paul said:
All i got to say is, at least AMV's having moving pictures like those crappy ASSMV's. (anime slide shows)

And you probably just watch a lot of the overrated AMV's like that skittle one or a bunch of linkin park crap lol.


I saw someone pull this off well ONCE.



Warning for MASSIVE Kanon spoilers.

Generally though slide shows are the worst. Especially if it consists of some shitty song and shitty Naruto fanart the "creator" stole from random people on DevART. If someone did that to my art without asking I'd rip them a new one, lmao.


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Nov 20, 2009 1:15 PM

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I don't like the casually made ones with like..obnoxious music.

And it's like everywhere I go, there's a naruto AMV for every song. Exaggerated to say, but GEEZ...! There's a ton
Nov 20, 2009 1:22 PM

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I don't really mind them.

If I watched something that I really liked, then more likely I would watch an AMV out of that Anime because it contains the show that I really liked.
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this is one of the first amv's to really utilize beautiful transitions and the effects are simple but they are easy on the eyes, and the music is just phenomenal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgVADWeNkw&rel=1">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgVADWeNkw&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355">

you guys should seriously consider this one as one of the best. it stands the test of time, this one is almost a decade old and still stacks up against the new ones... this was made by koopiskeva btw.
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this one aged so well that it's as good as one of the finest wines in the world. it's amazing how this is almost a decade old and none of you guys have mentioned it...
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Rei-Rei said:
ShadowbladeEdge said:
If you want really good shit though, MADs made completely from scratch are where it's at, where even the song is original:

I love this one, so here's a parody.



#NBHNC
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
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That made me sad. Japan and it's crazy fascination with McDonald's ruins much more than it improves.
It's more of them making fun of the ridiculousness of the commercials that the audio comes from.


#NBHNC
Nov 20, 2009 2:21 PM

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well, i don't really hate amvs, and i don't think all of the people who create them think they are the most creative ones in whole world, though i agree with opinion that some amvs can be shitty, so what ? The ones i consider to be shitty i neither watch till the end nor comment
Just because of several crappy ams you don't need to say this "all they do is link a bunch of random clips together and then add music like death metal"
Just say that you don't like death metal and death metalic (O.o) amvs <.<
>.>
that way it's easier , now isn't it? ^^
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Most AMV's are packed with spoilers... I hate spoilers xD


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I might add, that if you add "-AMV' in the search bar on YouTube it will exclude anything with AMV in the title.
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I only like them if they are good. I'm picky. If I don't get into it at the first few second I don't watch the rest. I hate when I find a real scene I want to watch and it has (the worst) music. And all the excuses are the same "I had to do it so it won't get removed." Load of crap. Neith the scene ot the song belongs to you so it will get removed.
Nov 20, 2009 4:51 PM

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no one has posted that metal gear solid naruto music video? that amv was brilliant.
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I prefer the MADs from Nico Nico Douga
And the yearly Anime Saimoe Tournament on 2ch
This is from the 2007 tourney but ever since then I haven't seen any good ones like this. ;_;
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
That made me sad. Japan and it's crazy fascination with McDonald's ruins much more than it improves.


It's not McDonald's that they're obsessed with. It's the character Ronald. To watch the Ronald videos -- it's like watching someone who's completely batsh1t crazy.

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I prefer the MADs from Nico Nico Douga
And the yearly Anime Saimoe Tournament on 2ch
This is from the 2007 tourney but ever since then I haven't seen any good ones like this. ;_;


Sadly. They haven't topped this 2007 version.

What really makes this one special though? It really set up Saimoe as something... exciting. Then to be able to cram like... at least 100 anime girls into one video. That takes some work.

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Then the Bad Apple video. That one is so amazing. Who thought that Black and White is dead? The Wow-Factor hit me so hard such that I grabbed a couple more Touhou games and played 'em.
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I personally like the following AMV because it's ambiguous enough that people who have never seen the series yet watch this AMV wouldn't know that SZS is a COMEDY series. Heh. :D
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brinan said:
bunch of random clips together and then add music like death metal


What AMVs have legitimate Death Metal songs? Seriously, point me to them. AMVs always have shit weaboo/mallgoth music like Linkin Park, Breaking Benjamin, Shitknot or MCR.

I don't mind AMVs but the music can either make it or seriously fucking break it.
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I only hate AMV's when i'm trying to look for a certain scene in an anime on youtube and i get spammed with AMV's as search results.
Well said.

I don't think AMVs are a terrible thing, but some of them are just a bunch of clips piled together with cliche music that turn out wth bland results. Every once in a while I'll find a good one though.
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brinan said:
Heh, was that in response to me? Won't accomplish anything, as i already know how depressingly atrocious they can be. Though you should make one and post it on youtube, you'll probably get positive posts no matter how bad it is :D


WISE WORDS.

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