mclovinballz said: Already served so ain't got nutting to worry about. This. But depending on the circumstances, I'd probably go back anyway. Just so I can have Nicole accuse me of being a war-crazed, murderous, baby-killing, wedding-bombing criminal. |
mclovinballz said: ibrahim2712 said: Most of you guys who think you would cower probably wouldn't. I think most people become desperate for survival once they hold a gun. But thats just a theory. I think you've seen too many war movies OP and killing innocents? That all changes when those innocents actively try and succeed in killing people you know - yeah it may be a playground for / by governments but when you're there it's a job Any feelings of empathy for the enemy quickly dwindles when people you know no longer exist |
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| I would have served my country. I wouldn't really like it but what choice would I have. Speaking legally that is. |
| Dodge the draft, chances are said war isn't worth fighting for. |
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| Depends on the war, what I'm being paid, positioning, if I'll be in the shit or training. As to the gun thing OP not really true. Most trained soldier even hesitate to fire when being fired upon none the less. |
| Optimal scenario: helping in ways that don't involve joining the actual fight. I'd like to do something to help the situation, but then again, I think that the statistics are against me on surviving the whole thing. Hence something that increases those odds. And in the scenario in which the country I live in happens to be the attacking one? Unlikely, considering the neighboring countries and the fact that my country isn't part of a military union (read: can't really afford to join any because it would make our situation really tricky). |
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| Assuming the draft is changed so that women can be drafted...probably still discounted for health reasons But if not, I'd serve in a non-combat role Conscientious objector camilleanime said: In the US at least, you can still be drafted for a non-combat role/topic (except for those who live in the U.S.A. or Canada, no idea how things work there) |
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camilleanime said: Some of the responses here are really immature... If you are a E.U. national, you have a legal right to what is called "conscientious objection" (art. 10.2 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union). /topic (except for those who live in the U.S.A. or Canada, no idea how things work there) As I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. |
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Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources |
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Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Of course not, they'd execute him in front of his comrades to show that everyone who refuses to fight or thinks of deserting is as good as dead already. That's what they have always done in serious wars until today. |
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Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. |
RedArmyShogun said: Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. You're really making me want to watch the Stalingrad movie that was made in Russia. |
| I'm already denounced by the army so I'll never go back there. Oops. If I had to? I'd desert for sure. It's not that I'm a pussy, but that I'd rather not throw away my life so easily and I like to pretend that I'm a pacifist. |
mclovinballz said: RedArmyShogun said: Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. You're really making me want to watch the Stalingrad movie that was made in Russia. Its a so so film from what I heard. Haven't seen it myself. |
mclovinballz said: RedArmyShogun said: Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. You're really making me want to watch the Stalingrad movie that was made in Russia. don't because the movie is shit |
RedArmyShogun said: Always seemed like a waste of a bullet, if you ask me.Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. |
Zeally said: mclovinballz said: RedArmyShogun said: Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. You're really making me want to watch the Stalingrad movie that was made in Russia. don't because the movie is shit Will I at least get a laugh out of it from Red Army pride propaganda? |
NTAD said: RedArmyShogun said: Always seemed like a waste of a bullet, if you ask me.Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: That is silly, the military will not waste a person by giving them a gun and then watching them sit and refuse to fight or train with itAs I mentioned, once the real thing starts such laws are likely to be ignored. That's just how war works. It's a pointless waste of resources Tell that to the Commisars of the USSR. You don't fight, you get shot. Simple as that. Sounds like Khmer logic. Munition is scarce, so a machete will do. |
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LadyRenly said: I'd try to dodge it by any means. No way I'd allow myself to be cannon fodder. I'll push the button for a drone strike maybe, or deliver coffee to the general, but that's my limit Pretty much this. I value my own life above pretty much anything so I don't want to put it at jeopardy like that. |
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mclovinballz said: Will I at least get a laugh out of it from Red Army pride propaganda? Unlikely. The movie was baddly scripted from what I gatherd. If you want to jab at propaganda Jackie Chans 1911, would be a good one. |
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mclovinballz said: Shooting deserters, maybe. I agree with McLovin that shooting draft dodgers isn't going to happen though. But why dodge the draft when you could just get out of it altogether by some other means? (Disqualification, conscientious objector, etc.)Shiratori99 said: If I resisted the draft I'd likely get shot on the spot, so I'd probably go with the flow and then desert and disappear on the first occasion. Are you American? The Army these days is too much of a pussy to go shooting draft dodgers, they'd just slap some jail time is all. In my case, though I am in the preferred age bracket for selective service, I won't be drafted. I've already been disqualified from serving, twice. Tried to join the Marines, and tried to join the Army National Guard a few years after that. But if things got desperate enough, who knows, maybe they'd reconsider my disqualification. Anyways, if I were drafted, I'd serve honorably and do my utmost to make it back in one piece. I would probably try to get medic for my MOS. Considering I aced the ASVAB back when I was trying to join the Marines, I think I'd have no problem. Or something language related. Linguistic talent runs in my family. |
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Jackrabb1t said: mclovinballz said: Shooting deserters, maybe. I agree with McLovin that shooting draft dodgers isn't going to happen though. But why dodge the draft when you could just get out of it altogether by some other means? (Disqualification, conscientious objector, etc.)Shiratori99 said: If I resisted the draft I'd likely get shot on the spot, so I'd probably go with the flow and then desert and disappear on the first occasion. Are you American? The Army these days is too much of a pussy to go shooting draft dodgers, they'd just slap some jail time is all. In my case, though I am in the preferred age bracket for selective service, I won't be drafted. I've already been disqualified from serving, twice. Tried to join the Marines, and tried to join the Army National Guard a few years after that. But if things got desperate enough, who knows, maybe they'd reconsider my disqualification. Anyways, if I were drafted, I'd serve honorably and do my utmost to make it back in one piece. I would probably try to get medic for my MOS. Considering I aced the ASVAB back when I was trying to join the Marines, I think I'd have no problem. Or something language related. Linguistic talent runs in my family. The military still won't give a shit if you go AWOL. All the military does these days is put out a warrant without even attempting to find you. Even if you get caught, all you get is 30 days of jail time and then chaptered out. Hell, down at FT Benning, Drill Sergeant would give you directions if you want to go AWOL and tell you "See if I care". |
mclovinballz said: Yes, but technically a dishonorable discharge (and I assume a draft dodge) stays on your record and disqualifies you from certain things, like gun ownership, or other rights.Jackrabb1t said: mclovinballz said: Shooting deserters, maybe. I agree with McLovin that shooting draft dodgers isn't going to happen though. But why dodge the draft when you could just get out of it altogether by some other means? (Disqualification, conscientious objector, etc.)Shiratori99 said: If I resisted the draft I'd likely get shot on the spot, so I'd probably go with the flow and then desert and disappear on the first occasion. Are you American? The Army these days is too much of a pussy to go shooting draft dodgers, they'd just slap some jail time is all. In my case, though I am in the preferred age bracket for selective service, I won't be drafted. I've already been disqualified from serving, twice. Tried to join the Marines, and tried to join the Army National Guard a few years after that. But if things got desperate enough, who knows, maybe they'd reconsider my disqualification. Anyways, if I were drafted, I'd serve honorably and do my utmost to make it back in one piece. I would probably try to get medic for my MOS. Considering I aced the ASVAB back when I was trying to join the Marines, I think I'd have no problem. Or something language related. Linguistic talent runs in my family. The military still won't give a shit if you go AWOL. All the military does these days is put out a warrant without even attempting to find you. Even if you get caught, all you get is 30 days of jail time and then chaptered out. Hell, down at FT Benning, Drill Sergeant would give you directions if you want to go AWOL and tell you "See if I care". |
| I hate the whole idea of being in the military honestly. If I wanted to be in the military I would already be in it now (22 now). I would hate the culture of conformity, unquestioning obedience, and lack of freedom. I live in the U.S. and among other things, I don't agree with our military's actions in various countries right now and I'm against the whole "Policing the world" mentality the country seems to have these days in terms of deploying its army to fight in conflicts too easily. If there was a draft, I'd try to find a way around it, probably by going to another country if I could. The only way I would actually allow myself to be drafted is if there is a direct threat to the U.S.A. from invaders then yes I would go to protect my family and friends. |
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| I'd pull a Shinji. Fuck a war I don't care about, wars don't solve anything, they just give temporary advantages to the victor. |
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Red_Keys said: Fun Fact: Males were given the vote because of their requirement to serve their government. It was literally the price they had to pay: dedicate their lives to their country, and only then would they be able to vote for their country. Females were given the vote because they asked for it. And do not have to serve their country's military (males still do). But male privilege, amirite? OnT: Fight in the war I guess. What else does one do when drafted? I'd probably die. Or, since I most likely don't measure up to whatever military requirements there are, I'd be given some non-combat position. I guess that all depends on how desperate the situation is. With our technological advancement though, I don't really see another WW1 happening. It's not like wars are fought in trenches any more. Well, in the UK the right to vote used to be directly linked to property, not the obligation to serve the governement. And in France it relied on a suffrage based on a tax qualification up until the mid XIXth century. Besides that, it's not like the draft is unanimously supported, so... Anyway back OT : I wouldn't want to fight for my country (or any country for that matter), as I have no notion of pratriotic love whatsoever. But I would probably just go along and try my best to ace all my tests and hope for a secure position when no actual fighting is required. |
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| I would go if it was a war worth it, if its one that aligns with my own morale code or something to that affect... But I don't see high casualties in this age nor do I think there would be alot of people seeing action in the way past wars were fought, serving in the time of war seems most likely to happen. |
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| Fight the war like the man I am. Then when (if?) I get home, I'd start a revolution and decapitate whoever made me go to war in the first place. Cuz war sucks Cue Platoon Music |
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| My original country does have drafts... I am ditching it right now by being a US citizen. But if the United States were to ever call me in, I'd join in a heartbeat. Because I know that I am fighting for FREEDOM! 'MURICA! (just kidding, btw. I don't know what I'll do. I'll probably join and see if I can do something that doesn't require me on the front lines) |
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| Camp and Hardscope. I mean, Someone like me would get picked on by the adults and start pushing me to the front lines. I'd go for any job that involves jets. |
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| It depends on the war.If it was was a war our government deliberately pulled us into like sending a supply ship to one of the sides in a conflict to get bombed like in WWI or provking a county into attacking us by cutting off trade during a time of war then I am refusing the draft. If its one of those we got to spread democracy and stop a particular ideology from spreading like Vietnam was then I am refusing the draft. If its to do defend another country then I am refusing the draft. The only was I would accept a draft is if we are being attacked on US soil and we did nothing to provoke such an attack.. |
| well i would like to fight but i am pretty sure it wont be some glorious battle it would be another pointless war started by someone with twisted mind |
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| If I ever got drafted, I'd probably get kicked out shortly into boot camp for the sleeping disorder :P Even if they relaxed it enough for me to get through, I'd never get sent to the front lines for the same reason (would YOU want a narcoleptic in your platoon?). That being said, even if it came down to just assisting with analysis and planning, I would participate to the best of my abilities if allowed. |
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BryanBossling said: Depends who we're fighting and whether they're a threat to my people. Perhaps it'd be a good excuse to get rid of some pent-up aggression, start collecting scalps or something idk. In modern warfare doing something like that would land you in hot water, even if it was a part in completing your objectives. :V http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1296136/As-Gurkha-disciplined-beheading-Taliban-Thank-God-side.html |
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