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| the beginning was probably the most boring part in the VN for me but i didn't find myself THAT bored. I can't f**King wait for the rest of ep 2 to get off. There's so much meat in this one and the end almost contests with the end of ep3 for me. All the clues drooped in this arc will really start getting people thinking. Though to be honest, I truly didn't start thinking about the possible "culprit" until ep 3. Justicar said: Just WTF.. Dropped I can't wait for season one to finish airing so Umineko will shoot up on the MAL rankings. Then all the people who dropped it at the beginning will be asking themselves "wtf just happened". |
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| Beatrice's cackle is just awesome!! XD |
usasoldiern said: Having no Battler made this episode feel weird. Also, does Kanon literally mean that he and Shannon are "furniture" or does he mean it as a metaphor? Good ep, this series is on a role Well, you'll find out soon anyway, but Ketuekigami said: Justicar said: Just WTF.. Dropped I can't wait for season one to finish airing so Umineko will shoot up on the MAL rankings. Then all the people who dropped it at the beginning will be asking themselves "wtf just happened". Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. Umineko has a good plot with good characters. The anime, however, has utterly failed in the character department, losing half of what Umineko is, making it just "good". Koren said: Beatrice's cackle is just awesome!! XD Amen brother. Amen. |
DrZedAug 8, 2009 12:44 PM
Zedrane said: Well, you'll find out soon anyway, but But... |
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Kirche said: Zedrane said: Well, you'll find out soon anyway, but But... |
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Kirche said: GarLogan78 said: I didn't like this episode too much... Only some litlle info about the chars. |
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| Normally i go there to say the opinions of the episode,BUT its MANY tags of spoilers,so i can't know what the people say here Z__Z' |
shugosha said: Zedrane said: It's bit early to say that when we only have 6 episodes around. The atmosphere was good in I-III, bad again in I-IV, and very good in I-V and I-VI. DEEN finally grasped the feel the last weeks and the characters begin to develop in Turn of the Golden Witch, as Legend was purely introduction, and this episode give us a good feeling about it.Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. Umineko has a good plot with good characters. The anime, however, has utterly failed in the character department, losing half of what Umineko is, making it just "good". Of course that the anime will be inferior, it's a adaptation, but I think that DEEN finally understood how to make a very good job. Meh. I didn't think I-III was good, I-IV and I-VI were ok, I-V was good though. I'll wait for my final judgment until it finishes but at this point I am not impressed. Overall it's been very mediocre so far as an adaption. |
shugosha said: Zedrane said: It's bit early to say that when we only have 6 episodes around. The atmosphere was good in I-III, bad again in I-IV, and very good in I-V and I-VI. DEEN finally grasped the feel the last weeks and the characters begin to develop in Turn of the Golden Witch, as Legend was purely introduction, and this episode give us a good feeling about it.Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. Umineko has a good plot with good characters. The anime, however, has utterly failed in the character department, losing half of what Umineko is, making it just "good". Of course that the anime will be inferior, it's a adaptation, but I think that DEEN finally understood how to make a very good job. Don't forget that there's only so much you can do with the time restrictions and DEEN's low budgets. It took them quite a while to get the characters right in Higurashi, but they pulled it off in the end. I think the anime version of Umineko will turn into something much better in the coming weeks. :) |
Foggle said: shugosha said: Zedrane said: It's bit early to say that when we only have 6 episodes around. The atmosphere was good in I-III, bad again in I-IV, and very good in I-V and I-VI. DEEN finally grasped the feel the last weeks and the characters begin to develop in Turn of the Golden Witch, as Legend was purely introduction, and this episode give us a good feeling about it.Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. Umineko has a good plot with good characters. The anime, however, has utterly failed in the character department, losing half of what Umineko is, making it just "good". Of course that the anime will be inferior, it's a adaptation, but I think that DEEN finally understood how to make a very good job. Don't forget that there's only so much you can do with the time restrictions and DEEN's low budgets. It took them quite a while to get the characters right in Higurashi, but they pulled it off in the end. I think the anime version of Umineko will turn into something much better in the coming weeks. :) Ah yes. Have hope my friend. It's good to have hope. *cries manly tears* |
Zedrane said: Foggle said: shugosha said: Zedrane said: It's bit early to say that when we only have 6 episodes around. The atmosphere was good in I-III, bad again in I-IV, and very good in I-V and I-VI. DEEN finally grasped the feel the last weeks and the characters begin to develop in Turn of the Golden Witch, as Legend was purely introduction, and this episode give us a good feeling about it.Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. Umineko has a good plot with good characters. The anime, however, has utterly failed in the character department, losing half of what Umineko is, making it just "good". Of course that the anime will be inferior, it's a adaptation, but I think that DEEN finally understood how to make a very good job. Don't forget that there's only so much you can do with the time restrictions and DEEN's low budgets. It took them quite a while to get the characters right in Higurashi, but they pulled it off in the end. I think the anime version of Umineko will turn into something much better in the coming weeks. :) Ah yes. Have hope my friend. It's good to have hope. *cries manly tears* Speaking of which, Kaiji is long overdue for a sequel. :O |
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Zedrane said: Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. It'll make a big jump because most people don't rate a series until they've finished it. And the anime has done an okay job with the characters. You really need to stop letting future events influence how you feel about them. Take Battler for example. At this point of time, even in the visual novel, he hasn't done anything yet. All talk and no action. This changes later on and how you feel about Battler is affected by that. You might be thinking oh Battler is so badass and the anime is ruining him! When that's not the case. He simply hasn't done anything badass yet. The atmosphere I can agree with, at least for Legend. What made Legend good was the atmosphere. The anime didn't have much of one and as a result, it wasn't that good. BUT... Legend is the least important arc out of the 4. The more episodes you give EP1, the less the others can have. In the long run it was a good decision to somewhat rush it, so they have more episodes for the more important games. |
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| I really liked this ep, it gave some back story for the "lovers" hehe Shannon and George was I feel bad kinda saying this but was boring.. I enjoyed Jessica and Kanon much more, and when Kanon said all that stuff at the end my heart went out to Jessica, I can only imagine her heart being torn apart. I also think there is something to this "furniture" "not human" thing.. Can't wait for more episodes!!! |
- Noblesse Oblige -  And I'm saying a prayer for  the desperate heart's tonight |
| ... Touhou? :D:D and Kanon has quite the unusual.. casual dress |
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windy said: That's not how I feel about it at all. By the second episode, I was already interested in Jessica, Kanon, and Shannon, and very engrossed in this part of the episode as a result. I got very attached to Jessica and Kanon after the school festival/garden scenes, which of course makes Umineko itself more emotionally wrenching. The length helped make me care, because it gave such an intimate look at their feelings. I agree I think the back story is very important, being just an anime watcher myself I really didn't understand about their relationship, if there was any until I came on here and people were posting about it. Then I started looking forward to getting more information, because if you went by the first few episodes I would think the relationship between Kanon/Jessica was non existing. I'm also a fan of romance anime's :) so this kinda added something to the anime for me. I'm actually looking forward more to the next episodes because of the relationship possibilities between Kanon/Jess and George/Shannon :) Also having a love story then turned into death is like you said gut wrenching. The general feeling seems to be that Kanon is some whiny girl (yes, girl) who thinks everything is a bother and only wants to hurt Jessica, when that's not it at all, and was obvious from the beginning that's not how it was. DEEN is confusing people about the characters' true identity and feelings because they're cutting so much out... girl... what? you mean how it appears in the anime he's a "girl", I mean he's really a he right? wow I'm confused lol It is late too so maybe my mind just isn't reading this right lol Nyanta said: ... Touhou? :D:D and Kanon has quite the unusual.. casual dress LOL I didn't even think about his casual wear until you mentioned it, but yes I went back to re-watch and oh my.. I'm a Kanon fan so I think it made him look good *drool* |
SigynAug 8, 2009 11:38 PM
- Noblesse Oblige - And I'm saying a prayer for the desperate heart's tonight |
MarthX said: Zedrane said: Meh, it might make a small jump in the ratings but I rather doubt it will majorly jump up. The anime has really failed to adapt the atmosphere, feel, and characters of Umineko entirely. They've kept the plot completely intact but that's only half of it. It'll make a big jump because most people don't rate a series until they've finished it. And the anime has done an okay job with the characters. You really need to stop letting future events influence how you feel about them. Take Battler for example. At this point of time, even in the visual novel, he hasn't done anything yet. All talk and no action. This changes later on and how you feel about Battler is affected by that. You might be thinking oh Battler is so badass and the anime is ruining him! When that's not the case. He simply hasn't done anything badass yet. The atmosphere I can agree with, at least for Legend. What made Legend good was the atmosphere. The anime didn't have much of one and as a result, it wasn't that good. BUT... Legend is the least important arc out of the 4. The more episodes you give EP1, the less the others can have. In the long run it was a good decision to somewhat rush it, so they have more episodes for the more important games. Actually I'd call Turn the least important arc, for various reasons. But anways, I will admit that the last two episodes have been as good as I ever thought DEEN would do. But the first four episodes were really terribad. I guess I'll stop complaining if DEEN at least keeps this up for the rest of the season. Oh well. P.S. The anime IS ruining him. :P j/k |
| I wouldn't call the first four episodes terribad. I've read the first 2 and a half VNs, and I still really enjoyed them. My friends who haven't read the novels are also enjoying the anime, so I think DEEN pulled it off with at least a little success. ;D |
| I actually think they're laughably bad. Not as an adaptation. As a stand alone narrative. The focus is all over the place, with emphasis on boobs and Higurashi-face first; murder second; and gold butterflies third. Characters had little (if anything) to do with the first episode. |
noteDhero said: I actually think they're laughably bad. Not as an adaptation. As a stand alone narrative. The focus is all over the place, with emphasis on boobs and Higurashi-face first; murder second; and gold butterflies third. Characters had little (if anything) to do with the first episode. Then read the VN. It's better. I still hold out hope for DEEN to come through and deliver the goods later on. |
noteDhero said: I actually think they're laughably bad. Not as an adaptation. As a stand alone narrative. The focus is all over the place, with emphasis on boobs and Higurashi-face first; murder second; and gold butterflies third. Characters had little (if anything) to do with the first episode. They are much worse as an adaption, trust me. I mean... laughably bad would be somewhat of a compliment. I have no idea why they added the Higurashi faces and the mass boobage. Neither of those are in the VNs and neither of them add anything to the show. In fact they hurt it. Overall the first arc only gets a 5.5 from me, as an adaption. But I'll be generous and give it a 7 as a stand alone work. As in the anime the characters weren't the main part of the first game either. It was more about the atmosphere and suspense. But the anime happened to have none of these either. So it essentially had nothing. To put it simply, I'm not willing to grovel up whatever DEEN shits out. When they start doing episodes well, like the last two, I'll say so. When they shove garbage in my face and tell me to like it, I'll respectfully decline. |
DrZedAug 9, 2009 1:15 AM
Sigyn said: yes he is indeed a guy! i've just heard so many people say, "what? you mean that's NOT a GIRL!?!" that it's gotten on my nerves. ;pThe general feeling seems to be that Kanon is some whiny girl (yes, girl) who thinks everything is a bother and only wants to hurt Jessica, when that's not it at all, and was obvious from the beginning that's not how it was. DEEN is confusing people about the characters' true identity and feelings because they're cutting so much out... girl... what? you mean how it appears in the anime he's a "girl", I mean he's really a he right? wow I'm confused lol It is late too so maybe my mind just isn't reading this right lol Zedrane said: Preach it!To put it simply, I'm not willing to grovel up whatever DEEN shits out. When they start doing episodes well, like the last two, I'll say so. When they shove garbage in my face and tell me to like it, I'll respectfully decline. |
| Geez. Ryukishi07 needs to lay off that laugh.sfx. He uses it way to much in the Turn of the Golden Witch. I swear he uses it at least 250 times. -_- |
Zedrane said: Geez. Ryukishi07 needs to lay off that laugh.sfx. He uses it way to much in the Turn of the Golden Witch. I swear he uses it at least 250 times. -_- I hope they double the usages in the anime. For the lulz, of course. |
Zedrane said: I HATE THAT LAUGH SO MUCH OHHHH MY GOD>......Geez. Ryukishi07 needs to lay off that laugh.sfx. He uses it way to much in the Turn of the Golden Witch. I swear he uses it at least 250 times. -_- |
| More Beatrice awesomeness and hotness... Me likey ^_^ Also didn't notice until now that Shannon is voiced by KugiRie... She's everywhere. |
"Thousands have lived without love, not one without water." -Wystan Hugh |
windy said: Zedrane said: I HATE THAT LAUGH SO MUCH OHHHH MY GOD>......Geez. Ryukishi07 needs to lay off that laugh.sfx. He uses it way to much in the Turn of the Golden Witch. I swear he uses it at least 250 times. -_- I thought the laugh was awesome though it was definitely overused. I still hope they use it in the last episode of the anime. |
windy said: Zedrane said: I HATE THAT LAUGH SO MUCH OHHHH MY GOD>......Geez. Ryukishi07 needs to lay off that laugh.sfx. He uses it way to much in the Turn of the Golden Witch. I swear he uses it at least 250 times. -_- The laugh made me lol the first time. It just kinda creeps me out now after Turn. :| |
| The old generation dudes are all jerks. Just let them do their lovey-dovey things. |
Renza said: windy said: Zedrane said: I HATE THAT LAUGH SO MUCH OHHHH MY GOD>......Geez. Ryukishi07 needs to lay off that laugh.sfx. He uses it way to much in the Turn of the Golden Witch. I swear he uses it at least 250 times. -_- The laugh made me lol the first time. It just kinda creeps me out now after Turn. :| I love the laugh. :D It's creepy and fits perfectly. But, like Hirahira said, it is way overused in Turn of the Golden Witch. It's fine in allthe other games though. |
| Good Episode. This anime is nice. Touhou crossover was just great xD Kanon is emo. . . though still good looking. Jess has just gained +5 Respect points for her beating up those girls with knuckles XD Not to mention she was really funny almost the whole episode. I think I am kinda starting to understand it a little more. Beatrice though confuses me to no end. Gotta love that laugh though. I see from the preview it looks like she will be wearing one of her other costumes I have seen fan art of her in. |
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| Everytime i go on an Umineko discussion forum... a little piece of me dies.... |
Tekky99 said: Everytime i go on an Umineko discussion forum... a little piece of me dies.... Same though...I can't resist clicking on them... |
| This was shit. Really. The anime is rushed. For those of you who love the anime. Please play the novel. It's awesom-er. And George is cooler. |
| nice episode, a very funny scene was where Jessica takes the brass nuckles and tells Kanon to wait a bit XD |
Darkii said: This was shit. Really. The anime is rushed. For those of you who love the anime. Please play the novel. It's awesom-er. And George is cooler. I don't think so. For this episode, I prefer the anime than the game. This part in the game is too looooooooooooooooog. |
| lol touhou, but Shannon was really cute. |
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Katsuki said: Tekky99 said: Everytime i go on an Umineko discussion forum... a little piece of me dies.... Same though...I can't resist clicking on them... I'm hearin' ya' both loud and clear. |
| MMmmm romance... i wonder if battler has a romance side in this series. |
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Fabrice said: MMmmm romance... i wonder if battler has a romance side in this series. I wouldn't say there isn't but... it's a bit strange, it's not really romance either, it's really awkward |
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lotusres said: Fabrice said: MMmmm romance... i wonder if battler has a romance side in this series. I wouldn't say there isn't but... it's a bit strange, it's not really romance either, it's really awkward |
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4saken_762 said: Darkii said: This was shit. Really. The anime is rushed. For those of you who love the anime. Please play the novel. It's awesom-er. And George is cooler. I don't think so. For this episode, I prefer the anime than the game. This part in the game is too looooooooooooooooog. Even if it was longer it was still more awesomer. |
Darkii said: 4saken_762 said: Darkii said: This was shit. Really. The anime is rushed. For those of you who love the anime. Please play the novel. It's awesom-er. And George is cooler. I don't think so. For this episode, I prefer the anime than the game. This part in the game is too looooooooooooooooog. Even if it was longer it was still more awesomer. No, too long will make it become more boring than it actually is. And I don't know what the anime watchers will think if this part is dragged into two episodes. |
| It was fine... Though Kanon is kinda annoying with the "furniture" thing....Oo Brass knuckles FTW xDD |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
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| Just when I thought Battler was more stubborn than the prime minister and that Kanon is so damn cool, I was actually mistaken. Kanon is just as stubborn! I might drop this series, after all. |
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