| We are currently looking for helpful individuals who have a passion for news and the MAL community, and would like to be part of MAL's staff. All moderator positions are voluntary. Review/Recommendation Moderators A Review/Recommendation Moderator's duties include:
To nominate a user for Review/Recommendation Moderator, please send me a PM including the following:
News Moderators A News Moderator's duties include:
Submissions for both moderator positions will be open for two weeks, ending on Monday, July 15, 2013 at 23:59 Pacific Time. We reserve the right to be unimpressed if you cannot follow these simple instructions. We look forward to reading your nominations/applications! Thank you for your interest :) Edit: Expanded the "Please note" under Review/Rec Moderators. |
KinetaJul 1, 2013 3:57 AM
| I don't think I'm very qualified to volunteer, but good luck to those who do. |
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| I would like to do the reviews, but i don't know if anyone would nominate me Lol |
| "Hey, assbutt!"—Castiel, Supernatural "Do you ever have a problem where you just don't know how to reply to an argument-- not because you don't know the answer, but you just don't where to begin? Like, the foundation of knowledge you'd need to impart to this person before you could even begin to drag them out of their sinkhole of ignorance would cost thousands of dollars, if it were coming from a University?" -MAL in a nutshell. |
| Just wondering, but why is age restriction necessary? Surely maturity isn't based by age, and one could be more sensible as a 15 year old than someone 40 years old. |
| maybe there are Internet protection laws in certain countries , similar to how they make you check that you are past a certain age even in mmorpg'd. |
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| I'm glad the Review Mod thing is going ahead. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Nice. This was a necessary move and I hope it ends up working well. |
| I would like to try myself at it but being the lazy person that I am, I have to reconsider that wish. I'd do a good job at first but I'd slowly but surely lose interest after a while. I wish luck to those that will really be able to make a difference in the long term |
AlycenJul 1, 2013 3:51 PM
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| Even though I was recommended to apply News Mod., I don't think I'm exactly suitable for being a mod. (though I would like to help out). I did try to write up an application PM, but the longer I think while I write it up, the more I think I'm not suitable for it. I still did send it up, though. |
tsubasaloverJul 1, 2013 8:09 PM
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| Most people I know who could be good as a mod have their hands full irl. Oh well, at least we finally get more mods for the review section. |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| If I was english speaker I'm sure I could be the definitive moderator. |
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theHitchHiker42 said: Just wondering, but why is age restriction necessary? Surely maturity isn't based by age, and one could be more sensible as a 15 year old than someone 40 years old. I believe it is about the turn-over rate with youths having less time to patrol because they are in school or going off to university. Those older can be online more due to the flexibility and spacing of university classes and office jobs (like how a large chunk of Reddit users Reddit while at work). And liability with the crap-recs where people post links to porn sites or use of racial slurs. |
| Good luck to applicants. Less nonsensical reviews and recommendations, hurray. |
| Please do not post nominations in this thread, but rather PM me as asked. Let's not turn this thread into a popularity contest (which I'm afraid it may devolve into). theHitchHiker42 said: While it's true that someone 40 years old can act less sensibly on the site than someone 15 years old, moderators need to deal with a lot of difficult situations. This is especially true of Review Moderators. I was not exaggerating when I said a lot of patience is necessary for this position. We set the age limit higher because people typically mature at a much faster rate between 15 and 18 years old than between 25 and 28 years old (for example).Just wondering, but why is age restriction necessary? Surely maturity isn't based by age, and one could be more sensible as a 15 year old than someone 40 years old. Not every user 18 or older is suitable for this position, but the chances that someone under 18 has enough experience interacting in difficult social situations with (angry) people they don't know is very slim. By 18 years of age you should be in your last year of high school or already out, and have probably held at least one part-time job. For youth, these early part-time jobs are often in customer service and give valuable experience. There are exceptions to every rule, but we prefer to set an age-limit to increase our chances of getting moderators who are capable enough for this demanding position. |
KinetaJul 2, 2013 4:18 AM
| Kineta, I just thought I'd report something kinda important about the PM system. It's not like I'd nominate anyone but even if I wanted to, I couldn't and I'm sure I'm not the only one with that problem. Basically I got over 3100 private messages in my inbox and the system do not allow you to send any private message if you have over than 100 messages in your inbox. Since my inbox takes minutes to load (Because of the huge return from the query), emptying it manually would takes me hours I am not willing to spend. It would be considerate to actually give an alternative for those in my position to nominate people (ie. Send the nomination to a private email address created for the recruitment). |
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| Unfortunately, I can't do anything about your Inbox. I can, however, fix any Sentbox bugs users are experiencing... but there is an unfortunate catch: I need to remove all Sent PMs. So you would need to save any PMs you have in your Sentbox that you would like to keep on your computer. Any users that would like me to do this can comment on my profile. If you cannot contact me via PM on MAL, then it's probably best to message me on IRC and leave your nomination/application there. I'm always connected to the main channel, even if I'm not at my computer. Just double-click on my nick and type in the new window. Edit: Oh, and please be sure to leave me your MAL username if you're connecting via mibbit. I'd like to know nominator as well as the nominee. |
KinetaJul 2, 2013 10:19 AM
| I wish I could but I'm not a Native English speaker so that's my fail. But I like the idea. |
| To everyone that post in this thread thinking that they might be able to do it/want to do it but have not even a thousand post.... wat? Did you somehow miss the part that say that you must be kinda known within the community? |
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| The day MellowJello becomes a mod is the day MAL dies. Is what I'd like to say, but it's not like MAL isn't dying already. |
BlindSamurai said: Oh my god does MellowJello know about this?! I really don't think he would be interested it this. |
| I wonder if anyone is going to nominate her. |
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| I know I'm definitely not getting nominated. ;D |
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Shangetsu said: To everyone that post in this thread thinking that they might be able to do it/want to do it but have not even a thousand post.... wat? Did you somehow miss the part that say that you must be kinda known within the community? Having a high post count, doesn't automatically you mean you aren't active in the community. I'll just use myself as an example, I've gone on the MAL forums multiple times a day for the past year and a half or so and yet I have around 90 forum posts. Although you would think someone that has been on the site over a year would have more than 90 posts I still consider myself very active. Some people just post at times where they feel they can aid greatly in the discussion, which in my example is why I usual just post in the One Piece forums and then just observe what others are saying in other parts of the forums. With that being said if someone wants to apply they shouldn't be hesitant just because they don't have a high post count compared to others. |
| “News travels fast in places where nothing much ever happens.” ― Charles Bukowski |
| Interesting topic and definitely curious to see how it goes. Gl to everyone! |
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Shangetsu said: To everyone that post in this thread thinking that they might be able to do it/want to do it but have not even a thousand post.... wat? Did you somehow miss the part that say that you must be kinda known within the community? There is a difference between being well known within the community and being an attention whore. I would encourage you not to rush anything,if there aren't any satsfying candidates,then you shouldn't pick anyone yet. |
| Being a mod is great. But I'm not good at these kind of stuffs, English is my second language and I'm not good with reading Japanese either. And I'm new and not really known... so... next time.. Haha. |
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| Enjoy moderating guys, I'm sure there are plenty of candidates for news moderators but the reviewing is gonna be real rough. |
| ~"The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and head and hands." (Pirsig) |
Regicide said: I'm sure there are plenty of candidates for news moderators but the reviewing is gonna be real rough. Are you sure? I probably follow a lot more news stuff than the vast majority of forum users, but wouldn't apply for a news mod position, because the things I follow are either: - Things that are specific to a single series/writer etc. and thus would only generate newsworthy stuff very infrequently - Things specific to the UK, which MAL has never really shown an interest in - Things that are already covered by other people, who often find out about them before I do. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
Shangetsu said: To everyone that post in this thread thinking that they might be able to do it/want to do it but have not even a thousand post.... wat? Did you somehow miss the part that say that you must be kinda known within the community? "We are currently looking for helpful individuals who have a passion for news and the MAL community, and would like to be part of MAL's staff." I don't think post count does anything but count posts, and I'm actually failing to see to see the 'part' you pointed out. edit: I could make a thousand posts as useless as the one quoted but it wouldn't make me a better candidate. |
BayrockJul 4, 2013 9:14 AM
| LET ME BECOME A MODERATOR OMOMOMOMOMOMM I will be a peaceful asshole. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Hm, I'm not really sure how the reviews mods apply going to work. It says that position is voluntary yet members are not allowed to suggest themselves. Also people are free to suggest someone whom they don't know personally, but there is always chance that this person is not interested in being moderator. More like in the end you will face an issue that half of nominated people is not interested in becoming moderator and another half consists of people who are pretty popular in general forum sector and best they are able to do is chit-chat. Since you are looking for someone who wants to help and is actually able to help won't it be better to let people apply on their own? I also think its better to let current moderators decide about accepting or rejecting every candidate - if the person is really helpfull and people-oriented then at least few mods should be aware of him/her no matter in which part of the forum that person is active. Thats just my thoughts, at the end you are the one setting rules. No offense, but its going to be pretty sad if someone like Mellow will be nominated alot and taken into staff team. |
ToshiruJul 5, 2013 4:36 AM
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Toshiru said: ^There will still be another application after the nominations, as stated: Hm, I'm not really sure how the reviews mods apply going to work. It says that position is voluntary yet members are not allowed to suggest themselves. Also people are free to suggest someone whom they don't know personally, but there is always chance that this person is not interested in being moderator. More like in the end you will face an issue that half of nominated people is not interested in becoming moderator and another half consists of people who are pretty popular in general forum sector and best they are able to do is chit-chat. Since you are looking for someone who wants to help and is actually able to help won't it be better to let people apply on their own? I also think its better to let current moderators decide about accepting or rejecting every candidate - if the person is really helpfull and people-oriented then at least few mods should be aware of him/her no matter in which part of the forum that person is active. Thats just my thoughts, at the end you are the one setting rules. No offense, but its going to be pretty sad if someone like Mellow will be nominated alot and taken into staff team. Kineta said: So regardless of how many get nominated, they would still need to submit an application after the nomination period. This would weed out people who were just nominated for kicks.Nominated users that meet the above criteria will receive a PM from me asking for a more detailed application. Though I do want to know the reason why the Review/Rec mods application is on a nomination basis instead of the usual application by people who do want to contribute and apply as one. Toshiru's reasoning is pretty legit. What if those who were nominated aren't interested to become a mod? I would bet half of those names that were submitted was because others just feel like submitting a name of a person he/she knows regardless of whether he/she is right for the job. Otherwise, I'm looking forward to the new mods that will be added to the staff. |
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Toshiru said: I was going to post something pretty much along the lines of this, but since you've already said it, I'll just throw in my two cents. Hm, I'm not really sure how the reviews mods apply going to work. It says that position is voluntary yet members are not allowed to suggest themselves. Also people are free to suggest someone whom they don't know personally, but there is always chance that this person is not interested in being moderator. More like in the end you will face an issue that half of nominated people is not interested in becoming moderator and another half consists of people who are pretty popular in general forum sector and best they are able to do is chit-chat. Since you are looking for someone who wants to help and is actually able to help won't it be better to let people apply on their own? I also think its better to let current moderators decide about accepting or rejecting every candidate - if the person is really helpfull and people-oriented then at least few mods should be aware of him/her no matter in which part of the forum that person is active. Thats just my thoughts, at the end you are the one setting rules. No offense, but its going to be pretty sad if someone like Mellow will be nominated alot and taken into staff team. I'm sure that if the Review Moderator position were to be fully voluntary (as in, interested parties nominate themselves), there would be a plethora of folks that would probably have a spur-of-the-moment urge to apply as well as people who may want the power that comes with an elevated position but are unwilling to put in the time and effort required to maintain it and things along those lines. But at the same time, you'd have (in my opinion) a much larger pool of quality applicants who are genuinely interested in attaining the position and making MAL a better place. It'd be all too easy for someone with a ~4,000 post count or super active on the forums to type up a paragraph for themselves and ask a buddy on the site to nominate them along with the paragraph they typed up. It seems like this is just a popularity contest which, while I understand the need to have an active member of the community to be chosen, seems to undermine the importance of the position itself. Heck, I check reviews and recommendations every single day and try to report the rotten apples of the day, but it seems not enough manpower is present to do much about it. I'd freaking love the position; I've always wanted to fix up some of the more loopy review/recs and quickly take down the troll/hate/fanboy ones, but I'm sure I won't be nominated as I'm not exactly as popular as Mellow is, even though I am pretty active, though choosing not to be active by posting silly one liners in every thread that appears, but rather by giving detailed discussion and insight at crucial points, meaning that my lower post count is easily matched to much higher numbers in terms of sheer quality and content. But I'm sure that wouldn't be enough for someone to take notice and nominate, even if I am interested in the position. No disrespect to the people who decided upon the criteria, but it just seems to be in favor of the more popular users and less in favor of the active, interested, but not uber popular folks. I'm not sure what kind of change would do the most good, but it seems that as it stands, finding an acceptable, hardworking member will be very difficult, if at all possible. |
AndyRayyJul 5, 2013 6:44 AM
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AndyRayy said: I'm sure that if the Review Moderator position were to be fully voluntary (as in, interested parties nominate themselves), there would be a plethora of folks that would probably have a spur-of-the-moment urge to apply as well as people who may want the power that comes with an elevated position but are unwilling to put in the time and effort required to maintain it and things along those lines. But at the same time, you'd have (in my opinion) a much larger pool of quality applicants who are genuinely interested in attaining the position and making MAL a better place. It'd be all too easy for someone with a ~4,000 post count or super active on the forums to type up a paragraph for themselves and ask a buddy on the site to nominate them along with the paragraph they typed up. It seems like this is just a popularity contest which, while I understand the need to have an active member of the community to be chosen, seems to undermine the importance of the position itself. Heck, I check reviews and recommendations every single day and try to report the rotten apples of the day, but it seems not enough manpower is present to do much about it. I'd freaking love the position; I've always wanted to fix up some of the more loopy review/recs and quickly take down the troll/hate/fanboy ones, but I'm sure I won't be nominated as I'm not exactly as popular as Mellow is, even though I am pretty active, though choosing not to be active by posting silly one liners in every thread that appears, but rather by giving detailed discussion and insight at crucial points, meaning that my lower post count is easily matched to much higher numbers in terms of sheer quality and content. But I'm sure that wouldn't be enough for someone to take notice and nominate, even if I am interested in the position. No disrespect to the people who decided upon the criteria, but it just seems to be in favor of the more popular users and less in favor of the active, interested, but not uber popular folks. I'm not sure what kind of change would do the most good, but it seems that as it stands, finding an acceptable, hardworking member will be very difficult, if at all possible. I saw this and thought I would chime in with a couple things that perhaps ought to be of note. Post or comment count honestly, probably isn't going to be as important as some may think. What probably matters more is visibility. Maybe someone is known for writing good reviews or recommendations. Maybe someone is known for being thoughtful or helpful in certain subforums. Maybe someone moderates a club and does a great job with that. On top of that, while normal users may not be aware of the following facts, but perhaps some of these visible people are known to the mods to be helpful in other ways, such as submitting news, new anime or manga, or character entries, editing such entries with correct information, and so on. The mods, who are the ones that will decide which applicants fit their criteria, may recognize the usernames of these helpful-behind-the-scenes users, and that will help boost the odds of users who aren't as post-count-heavy as others so they have a good chance. In any case, I have high hopes that the application pool for both positions gets some great names interested. |
lpfManiak said: Indeed, I used MellowJello as an example, but I'm sure we all have faith that the moderators will be a bit more stringent in letting someone into their ranks (nothing against good Mellow of course; I'm sure everyone here loves the guy). I don't think there is a need to worry as to who will become moderators; the nominations are a filter, who eventually gets the job is up to the staff. The number of nominations does not matter (too much). MellowJello will never be a review moderator! Suitable people will. Yes of course some of the nominees will decline. But from what I am hearing*, many suitable people are spontaneously getting nominated, provided that they are or have been active in the reviewing community. Although your contribution to the forums is great, it does not seem to me that you have been active in the reviewing community. Many of the people I am talking with, I am talking with them in the first place because once in a while they dared to give feedback to various reviewers, among other things. I think that is what is meant by 'people-oriented and interested in helping others'. Still, I nominated you since I reckon you deserve a chance, but I don't think that you fulfil all the criteria. * I know this since the subject has come up a few times in my conversations with other reviewers whom I discuss more or less everyday with. This is probably also a part of what 'people-oriented' means... Also, it is good news to hear that suitable people are indeed being nominated. Perhaps I was a bit too cynical of a completely user based nomination system. Even if it isn't me who gets the position, I'd just be happy knowing that someone with just as much of a drive to improve MAL is given the chance to do just that. And alas, I didn't mean to try and advertise myself or anything (I was just using myself as an example, as I thought it fit my argument nicely). Even so, the nomination is very much appreciated and, though I may not be too active amongst the reviewing scene as you stated (I have made the odd suggestion or comment every so often, but not enough to be noticed, I'd wager), I'd like to believe that my unique talents and ambition would be of great use to the community. In any case, it seems that whatever the outcome, MAL will finally get a much needed boost and will be on its way to becoming an even more entertaining place to visit. |
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| Very pleased with the idea of Review/Recommendation Mods. I know my comment is unnecessary, but I'd just like to let you guys know I'm supporting for good MAL Moderators. (^ v ^) |
| Good luck to all of the people applying or being nominated! I have personally never been extremely active within the forums, but I read posts everyday, and keep myself updated with news and reviews. I want to be a part of the community though, so I thought applying for the news position would be a good way for me to advance in those regards. When it comes to reviews, I think the nomination basis is definitely a good idea. I'm sure it will be a difficult decision to choose new moderators to join the team, but it will be interesting to see what will become of MAL with new mods and a system to run the site more smoothly. |
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| Good luck to the people applying btw. I am not sure on how review mods work, but still good luck! |
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| This is a fantastic idea, i been always saying from the start that some of these reviews are just full of inaccuracy, trolling and people that just create negative reviews and use to much language, cursing, etc. Its great to have a moderator that can approve upon this aspect so MAL's reviews will be alot more accurate. Just like how amazon approves reviews before they are listed. |
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| One more week left! So get your News Moderator applications and Review Moderator nominations in! Big thanks to everyone who has messaged me so far :) Although your post has mostly already been addressed, AndyRayy, I'd like to add just a few sentences paragraphs. Yes, the nominations are merely a filter. I stated in my post that the number of nominations don't matter and I meant it. The nomination is a character reference before the application. You must have spoken with, been in contact, or be friends with someone on the site in order for them to nominate you. I never said that you can't have your friends nominate you either; I said they shouldn't all spam my inbox. One well-thought-out nomination is infinitely better than 5 shoddy ones. The forum post count or comment count or club count doesn't really matter much in the end either. What matters is the way you conduct yourself on the site in overall. The Review/Recommendation Moderator position is a community position. This is more in line with a Forum Moderator. I'm going to digress a little here, but please bear with me. People often ask how they can apply to be a Forum Moderator, and it's very simple: Every post you make on the forum and every comment you make to other users on the site is your application to be a Forum Moderator. When you do not follow the Site & Forum Guidelines, encourage derailing and spamming, and abuse other users (trolls or not), then you are showing that you are not capable of being a Forum Moderator. Users dislike having their content removed, whether it meets site guidelines or not. And sometimes having a moderator title is enough to incur harassment. We need moderators who we can trust are not going to reply "lol idiot" when they are being abused by users. We need moderators who can keep a calm head when users lose their cool or they're stuck in a difficult situation. We need moderators who aren't going to follow the crowd. While we are asking for nominations from the community, it is you and your behaviour on the site that will ultimately determine if we contact you for the next step of the application process. Edit: Stray typo. |
KinetaJul 8, 2013 3:56 AM
| GL to the people that try out~ Mod Edit: Removed quote of a deleted post. |
LunaJul 11, 2013 4:44 AM
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| I would totally work for MAL if Xinil paid me. But alas... Protip: people who request to be mods tend to not be as good as people who are nominated to be mods. Reluctant hero and all that. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| I nominate GodlyKyon. He is extremely mature, objective, and peaceful. |
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