| Sounds like someone just finished Death Note... |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
| There is nothing perfect, not even close to perfection, a perfect genius, a perfect leader and a perfect person cannot be found in the same person, this is impossible. |
TheAutocrat1 said: Kira-oniisan said: There is nothing perfect, not even close to perfection, a perfect genius, a perfect leader and a perfect person cannot be found in the same person, this is impossible. Perfection is possible under limited parameters. You should read "Thus Spoke Zarathustra". When you say parameters, I guess you mean that you would be willing to sacrifice some traits or virtues in order to achieve this true genius of your imagination. I would also want to state that this: TheAutocrat1 said: This world needs a perfect genius; this world needs societies but not necessarily nations. Got me thinking a little. Would you be willing to dissolve this nations structured earth into a single nation at a global level? |
| We think to much, and feel to little. More than cleverness, we need kindness, and gentleness. From now on I'm answering every thread with part of that speech. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Post-Josh said: We think to much, and feel to little. More than cleverness, we need kindness, and gentleness. From now on I'm answering every thread with part of that speech. ^ These are the virtues of a person that I feared you would be willing to discard. |
| i prefer my world run by some of the dumbest college drop outs on earth. |
Goryo said: Sounds like someone just finished Death Note... Sounds like someone who just finished LoGH. "this world needs societies but not necessarily nations" is a quote from the show (kinda changed). |
on TheAutocrat1 said: Think of it this way. Out of all the people in the world there has to be someone with the greatest overall attributes, traits, characteristics, psychological profile, IQ, knowledge, wisdom etcetera. The most competent man alive. If we somehow had a way of finding that most competent person then it would make sense that he stand at the top of the world, then the next competent standing below him, etcetera. Perhaps an exam of some sorts, though exams are flawed and unless the person who made the exam was perfect, it wouldn't be a very efficient method. So it creates a paradox, quite like everything else in this world... And yes. I believe a world government is the answer though how we go about achieving this is quite the profound question. In my opinion an Autocratic system with democracy instated at the lower levels is the most desirable. So you would be basically going for an ensemble of the best people covering as many subjects as possible, as a single and perfect ruling party, I think now I can get what you mean by perfect in some parameters, these people's knowledges and wisdom would make it perfect theoretically, yet the contradictions between these people would cause it to be imperfect. Am I right? A world government as the answer to many of our current problems? Would be willing to explain me in detail the benefits of this ideal? You can post on my profile if you believe that this subject is going off topic, I'd also be looking for this type of conversation, but this is a story for another time. I can also see why your username is "TheAutocrat". TheAutocrat1 said: And no, "good" must be apparent for perfection of any sorts, these are essential if the leader of the world was to influence every sentient being under him. Yes, I firmly believe in these qualities. I totally agree with this, and I'm glad to see that you are not willing to sacrifice just about anything in this ideal. |
| it sound like yagami light has gone to MAL. another problem would be how would we decide who should be running as the leader, there's is no way to know who really would have the right attributes. |
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| Just reminded me. |
TheAutocrat said: So it creates a paradox, quite like everything else in this world... Care to explain this? |
Shaja said: i prefer my world run by some of the dumbest college drop outs on earth. I don't believe in this whole ubermensch rant. I believe people are born as stupid, only those who realize of their own stupidity may earns their rights in this stupid world. It's better to realize what you had done wrong, than to foolishly thinks that you're doing everything right. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| I disagree with the idea that the perfect genius exist, and that they should run the world. The world should be ran by someone of slightly above average intellect. That person would be able to understand the majority of high end genius problems if explained to them in layman's terms, but would be of a near average intelligence so that they would be able to do what is right for the majority. A person of perfect genius would see everything in a light that might be beyond the reach of the average man. Thusly, their solutions to problems wouldn't always be understood by the average man and would therefore be disagreed with. History has shown that humans tend to destroy or ignore what they don't understand. |
| If we're having trouble defining 'genius' then how do you know the world needs one, if you don't know what one is? Intelligence is all well and good for progressing as a person but having ample amounts itself can lead to an ego to the point it becomes a major fault in a person. All qualities must be in balance for a leader. As a side note I'll just say this, maybe we don't have enough people with genius intellect but I can tell you that we have more than enough who think and they are and they are the worst types of people to rule. |
shintai88 said: Or just a glory hogging brute that burn down great ancient cities in a drunken stupor.We can say Alexander the great was a genius, as he created one of the largest empires, but others will just say he was a great leader. |
Baman said: Show some compassion man, after all he lost his best friend aka butt buddy and died of a broken heart. shintai88 said: Or just a glory hogging brute that burn down great ancient cities in a drunken stupor.We can say Alexander the great was a genius, as he created one of the largest empires, but others will just say he was a great leader. Sure he conquered stuff for the sake of conquering, and had most of the known world by the age of 25, but those were obviously just small shit compared to that. |
shintai88 said: Sic said: Show some compassion man, after all he lost his best friend aka butt buddy and died of a broken heart. Sure he conquered stuff for the sake of conquering, and had most of the known world by the age of 25, but those were obviously just small shit compared to that. But thats the point, to Western Society Alexander was great, But to Eastern Society he was nothing more then a person who destroyed a great civilisation. Was being tongue-in-cheek in regards to that. Though on a serious note, at least he wasn't a ruthless conqueror; given that he sought to further secure a cross-cultural toleration, and a better exchange of cultural knowledge - opposing those who insisted on a divide or thought of themselves better than x people. |
| The problem with this is that such a person does not exist and even if it does exist it absolutely definitely has its own flaws. First,how do we get everyone to like or at least obey him?There are even people who dislike Mahatma Gandhi who was one of the most peaceful men ever. Second,even if we find such a person,in a weeks time his inteligence drops by 1 iq and he is suddenly only the second best?Or someone elses inteligence jumps for 1 or 2 iq points? Third:during the exams he lies that he has the best intentions for humanity,tomorrow he becomes a dictator? Even if it is not just one person if it is a whole group the same may happen to that group. You can't really improve the world just by putting one person in charge.To improve the world you need either time and long lasting effort or a shock. The most inspiring anime character for me in that regard is Lelouch Lamperouge. He really put the worlds needs before his own needs and he did it with a spine. What can you do in the real world? Well start by changing yourself.You want fairness?Become fair.You want justice?Become a knight of justice.You want kindness?Be kind.You want greatness?become great.Sure there will always be those people who will not like you for that or those situations where you just must make a compromise,but just be done with them and forget them,ignore them like they never happened and don't get disheartened. Another thing is that you should strive to be succesful.In changing the world ambition can only be your friend.For starters try to get a good job,or be good in school/college.Those who try in general do get some recognition.This might be a good way to get yourself some influence on things,if you are at least succesful in your area of expertese. As for me i believe in the fact that every human should be free...anarchism,social liberalism and socialism all the way for me.In my opinion the only freedom you should not have is the freedom to give up your freedom. What do i do as a person who is still young and in college: a)I give money to almost every beggar on the street,I share a lot of things with my friends,i share, share & share to at least make someones day better. b)If it does not involve me in any way possible everyone is free to do whatever they want. c)I work my ass of in college. What is my objective for success?Well a pretty low one:I consider it as a success if I make at least one person like its freedom more than it originally did during my lifetime. Oh yeah and I am totaly for the abolishment of nations...nations are outdated. |
| "Efficiency is not king, efficacy is." Post a comment on my profile. Profile comments are fun. |
shintai88 said: But I would still consider him an idealist for those rather then a genius. Can't be arsed with titles. He accomplished far more than most people by the age of 30, that's for sure. |
TheAutocrat said: This world needs a perfect genius; this world needs societies but not necessarily nations. Amazing quote! You said enough with just one quote, i agree! |
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Nimed said: TheAutocrat said: This world needs a perfect genius; this world needs societies but not necessarily nations. Amazing quote! You said enough with just one quote, i agree! [source = LoGH] |
| I'm a realist and a pragmatist when it comes to this topic. Not going to happen by a long shot.And equating a perfect genius with a better world is stretching my credulity to its limit. Opportunity and the willingness of the majority to make their world a better place is a more likely scenario. It happened when the Berlin Wall fell. It happened when people elected Nelson Mandela. It also happened when a sea of people convinced Marcos that it's just not good to stay. Sure, you get figureheads to rally them on; but if no one backs you - genius as you are - you're a goner. |
| I like the idea of finding 'the most competent person ever'. We could learn from him and try to foster new born children to become like her/him for the sake of a better humanity. I'd go on and elaborate, but I feel as if I'm about to write some bizarre science-fiction. I also feel daft for saying that. No one is 'perfect' and never will be. Because we have differences, we need each other. We need to learn how to appreciate one another,cooperate with each other, understand ourselves and each other instead of relying on one genius (fuck dat noise yo) . We need to bring people up to: think for themselves, ask questions and to have...well as Autocrat said: 'passion and curiosity for knowledge and learning or even bettering themselves for that matter.' Maybe a world with everything I said above can bring about a better world and may foster new 'geniuses'. But more importantly, we can move forward together. Of course, what I say is just some fantasy in my head. So whatever, I guess. |
GloriousHawkSep 20, 2012 10:25 AM
| yeah,,, logh liek ftw |
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TheAutocrat said: Hitchens said: Nimed said: TheAutocrat said: This world needs a perfect genius; this world needs societies but not necessarily nations. Amazing quote! You said enough with just one quote, i agree! [source = LoGH] Your point is? You seem to not understand, i agree with that quote. |
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TheAutocrat said: A subjectively perfect genius entails someone with much life experience in all cultures, environments and all types of situations. He must be empathetic to the point where he can use his high adaptive co-efficiency to understand all sentient beings. My theory is this. That said subjectively perfect human (The overall most competent) must identify himself and take the liberty of going to the top. There he can establish the exam and it would be the most flawless as it would be based on him. Of course a man alone cannot perceive every surface of the room at once. He would need other equals (of sorts) to assist him in his worldly endeavours. Humility and self-control are essential for a leader. Such geniuses do exist. It's those whose life experiences pervade this. The only way to nurture subjectively perfect geniuses is for an existing subjectively perfect genius to exist. That is the only way fosterment of children could be as accurately done as possible. Naturally the most competent man; the man with the greatest overall of all the things I stated as well as empathy, humility self-control, kindness, ~life experiences~ etcetera does exist. It's a case of mathematical likelihood. Yes but mathematical possibility also says I might win the lotterry this week. |
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Hitchens said: Nimed said: TheAutocrat said: This world needs a perfect genius; this world needs societies but not necessarily nations. Amazing quote! You said enough with just one quote, i agree! [source = LoGH] Does this mean if we all watch LoGH, we'll all have a working understanding of how The Autocrat thinks? |
| Probably not. The show is grand and electric. It introduces a wide array of topics and deals with them in glimmering elegance and profundity. The characters are intelligent, and they serve a purpose. Legend of the Galactic Heroes is a legendary piece of fiction - a classic in every sense of the word. Autocrat on the other hand is just a clown who pretends to know everything about everything, yet knows very little about anything. |
| If you like it so much why don't you just marry it!? |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Speaking of liking things, I really like the 'Bill Nye Tho' tweets. Shame the account was suspended. Some serious gold right there. "i would tell you how big the universe is but by the time i even finished the sentence it would have already like fucktupled in size" |
| Assuming you read that buzzfeed article, most of those weren't even close to the best. "sometimes I watch ice melt and then freeze again. I stop when it stops getting cool but it never does" "how cool is it that cactuses grow in the desert and you can have one in your room?" "shout out to kangaroos, they stomachs is pockets" etc. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Yeah I definitely missed out on a lot of them. Is there a source that compiles all these tweets? |
| Not that I know of, perhaps there is/will be at some point though. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| I feel like this topic is going into bs territory. |
| "Efficiency is not king, efficacy is." Post a comment on my profile. Profile comments are fun. |
TheAutocrat said: The creative genius. Should we classify this as the only true type of genius? Being born with a high IQ doesn't make you a genius... Having amassed lots of knowledge only to borrow the wisdom of others and throw a few party pieces around doesn't make you a genius. Intelligence is a factor. Wisdom and knowledge are also factors. I would stress the ability to manufacture knowledge. Insight is key. But basically your whole psychological profile is what it boils down too, which covers a lot of things. This world needs geniuses, but it needs leaders. People, who can set by example, people who can reflect their subjective perfection onto others. Stopped right there. Subjectivity and perfection don't go along. And nobody's perfect. There shouldn't be anyone entrusted with the burden of leading everyone. The majority vote from the people is what makes humanity go on. But enlighted people, not media blinded people like nowadays. |
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