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| WINry. Was a good episode, great humor again. |
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| so Winry found a new home. Hope to see her again from time to time. |
| was nice and all, but nothing too special happened imo. looking more for the next one when they are going back to their master. |
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Cebola92 said: Please don't ask for spoilers...Great episode! So, I forgot what was that date... Is is the day they burned their home? Or something related to their mother? magelet said: Thank Haruhi, the FMA1 was too brooding and boring for my taste. I know a lot of people liked that and still like that better but I'm extremely happy with 2009 so far. The story already has enough emotional baggage, there's no need to remind us every single second.FMA1 was a lot more melodramatic/angsty than the manga is. This series is much more faithful to the tone of the manga. tl;dr: FMA2009 is good and don't spoiler. |
Cebola92 said: Great episode! So, I forgot what was that date... Is is the day they burned their home? Or something related to their mother? Considering it was followed by the flashback of their house being burned, I guess thats the day when they did it. kuroshiroi said: Thank Haruhi, the FMA1 was too brooding and boring for my taste. I know a lot of people liked that and still like that better but I'm extremely happy with 2009 so far. The story already has enough emotional baggage, there's no need to remind us every single second. agreed. Not to mention the hilarious "world revolves around elrics and EVERYTHING is their fault" thing FMA1 had going on . |
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dbaranyi said: WinterNightsFall said: dbaranyi said: I wonder why they are even bothering to re-do the parts that were already done in the first version - this isn't adding anything at all, except for rushed and unfunny attempts at humor. They would have been better off starting with the manga-only plotline. And we get yet another re-hash episode next week. Because surprise! Not everybody has seen the first season. Blows your mind doesn't it. :P Given that the first version has been broadcast all around the world, it's hard to believe that anyone missed it, but I guess that anything is possible. Believe it. -points to self- Anyway, a nice episode :) Winry fangirling, everybody freaking out when the baby was about to be born, tall!Ed and cute Winry/Ed moments took my mind off Hughes. -sob- |
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| A bit too overdramatic with the birth of the baby (despite the message the event is sending to Ed). |
| Funny at times, too funny at times and trying to be funny at other times...this is becoming too much like every other anime on the planet. :( And even then it couldn't be as funny as the one in FMA1 shown about the Hughes family. Ah well, it was an unimportant episode too, they could have totally dropped it. Next episode will be boring again. *Sigh* |
Sapta said: it was an unimportant episode too, they could have totally dropped it. Next episode will be boring again. *Sigh* No it was not " unimportant". And no they could not "have totally dropped it". And I just don't see how anything with Izumi can be "boring". |
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| I figured this series would slowly take a turn for the better, but surprisingly it is doing the opposite. There are some bits and pieces that are extremely entertaining, but that is not at all consistent. FMA had a Kung Pow moment this episode! But you don't have to be familiar with Kung Pow to understand this joke or understand how ridiculous this scene was: (mind you, these two characters are practically strangers with one another) (and I am shortening the dialogue to get the point across) Paninya: I'm really thankful to Mr. Dominique, I will repay my debt to him by pickpocketing. Winry: I implore you to reconsider... Paninya: Hmm...Okay, I'll stop pickpocketing. I'll repay him honestly. Boy am I glad you were here to turn my life around in a matter of seconds! |
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Deadpool135 said: I figured this series would slowly take a turn for the better, but surprisingly it is doing the opposite. There are some bits and pieces that are extremely entertaining, but that is not at all consistent. ! FMA2 were being great series from Ep1 onwards. With exception of EP2, everything else was done in brilliant and correct way. Deadpool135 said: Paninya: I'm really thankful to Mr. Dominique, I will repay my debt to him by pickpocketing. Winry: I implore you to reconsider... Paninya: Hmm...Okay, I'll stop pickpocketing. I'll repay him honestly. Boy am I glad you were here to turn my life around in a matter of seconds! Oh but that was only logical. Paninya was too naive to understand just what "repaying him" means for real, thinking about it being material things. it only took one person actually having guts to shout it out to her, for her to see the truth. |
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| I enjoyed it. Some parts were really funny, like Ed imagining his height. |
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| Great episode. Still following the manga faithfully with only minor exceptions. I dont understand why people thinks every episode gets rushed though. They are flowing on with pretty decent speed if you ask me. |
Neonar said: I think people are just too hung up on FMA (2003) ><;;.. Clearly if people compared the previous anime to this one it is understandable to perceive FMA:B as more "rushed". But I think if some people (because I'm sure there are people out there who is already doing this) start considering FMA:B as an anime itself it wouldn't seem that "rushed".Great episode. Still following the manga faithfully with only minor exceptions. I dont understand why people thinks every episode gets rushed though. They are flowing on with pretty decent speed if you ask me. I'm definitely with you on this though, I'm loving the pace :3~ |
| @robbydesu I agree with you.. I'm tired to come here to read FMA:B comments and find flames about the new series. They don't see this series like an anime, but a remake. =/ Seriously, if someone don't like, should drop it, but don't screw up with the topic... |
Volkie said: Well it is a remake. It just feels like people aren't looking at FMA:B as an anime in itself regardless of whether or not it's a remake. @robbydesu I agree with you.. I'm tired to come here to read FMA:B comments and find flames about the new series. They don't see this series like an anime, but a remake. =/ Seriously, if someone don't like, should drop it, but don't screw up with the topic... Maybe people are quick to think that "remake" means it's supposed to be better than the previous anime. So with that sort of mindset, people are more inclined to view this series analytically and with such scrutiny that it becomes trivial at times. Some viewers don't just sit back and watch the series and enjoy what is being given to them - they are so caught up in the whole remake idea that they look at every single detail. Then sometimes it just progresses into this whole black and white thinking of it's either like or dislike - but of course it must have a reason behind it. I don't mind if people don't like this series, I just don't think it gives must justice to the anime to base that opinion on the comparison between FMA (2003) and FMA:B :(.. I guess it's a given that people compare the two series, I do that too. But I don't solely base my opinions on just that. I just hope more people learn to give some leaway to the anime because it's not like FMA:B was made to be better than the previous one, it's just a remake that's based on the manga, simple as that. |
greenmush said: lol when Ed imagine himself taller i was like LOL That was Awesomely HILARIOUS!!!! had to pause so i wouldn't miss anything while i was LMAO! Monochrome said: That was actually a really enjoyable episode. Winry was so cute in the beginning and Paninya was voice by Okamura Akemi. I just love her voice~ And seeing this made me very happy :3 Glad i wasn't the only that spotted that. |
Sapta said: it was an unimportant episode too, they could have totally dropped it. Next episode will be boring again. *Sigh* You're stupid. Then, Winry wouldn't have a reason to be a better mechanic. |
State_Of_Despair said: Sapta said: it was an unimportant episode too, they could have totally dropped it. Next episode will be boring again. *Sigh* You're stupid. Then, Winry wouldn't have a reason to be a better mechanic. You're extremely sharp to find that out so quickly. But if the manga hadn't this episode, I wonder if anyone would have felt the need for it. Or let's say if it was dropped in this series, would anyone new to FMA find something amiss? I guess not. But let's not argue on that. If I had liked the episode, I wouldn't have called it unimportant. The episode was too funny for me, that's all. Sure I laughed when Ed was imagining himself taller, or was commenting about Dominic's change of personality etc. @Fai, |
Sapta said: You're extremely sharp to find that out so quickly. But if the manga hadn't this episode, I wonder if anyone would have felt the need for it. Or let's say if it was dropped in this series, would anyone new to FMA find something amiss? I guess not. But let's not argue on that. If I had liked the episode, I wouldn't have called it unimportant. The episode was too funny for me, that's all. Sure I laughed when Ed was imagining himself taller, or was commenting about Dominic's change of personality etc. There's another reason on why this episode is important. Certain events would not be possible without what happened in this episode. |
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Fai said: There's another reason on why this episode is important. Certain events would not be possible without what happened in this episode. Hmm, maybe you're talking about the alchemy watch. Not sure but I feel that can be important later on. The pictures of 3 wanted persons were shown in the station. Weren't they in the coal mine chapter in FMA1? |
Sapta said: Hmm, maybe you're talking about the alchemy watch. Not sure but I feel that can be important later on. Nope, not that. I guess you will have to wait and find out. Sapta said: The pictures of 3 wanted persons were shown in the station. Weren't they in the coal mine chapter in FMA1? First is Scar. Second is <spoiler> Third is the character from Coal Mine Town |
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| You people that doubt the series right now should just wait and see. Some of the things that happen in the manga later on will most definately blow your mind^^ It sure did for me when I read it atleast lol. And I cant wait to see how it looks like in the anime. *sinister laugh* |
| Really liked this episode, makes me love Winry's character even more :) Next week's is my favorite, with flashbacks of Ed & Al as little kids~ :D |
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| Everything felt extremely forced, but some parts of the episode were good (like the birth, the conversation between Ed and Winry). Anyway, most of the filler episodes are uninteresting in FMA, and this one was no exception. A solid scripting and dramatic events fit the show much more than these kinds of episodes, that's for sure. By the way, I don't know whether Winry will have more screen time (I never read the manga), but she must be the most interesting character of the series and was heavily under-exploited in the first series... I mean, every time Winry enters the screen, she actually does something and serves as a good counterpoint to Ed. She has a much more interesting character than most other protagonists of the show, and is not developped as much as she could be. Well, it's just my opinion though. |
JacutJun 16, 2009 1:33 PM
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Jacut said: Please don't hold back in elaborating on your opinion! I want to know more~ why do you think "everything felt extremely forced"? :3Everything felt extremely forced, but some parts of the episode were good (like the birth, the conversation between Ed and Winry, well... every time Winry enters the screen). Anyway, most of the filler episodes are uninteresting in FMA, and this one was no exception. A solid scripting and dramatic events fit the show much more than these kinds of episodes, that's for sure. |
Neonar said: You people that doubt the series right now should just wait and see. Some of the things that happen in the manga later on will most definately blow your mind^^ It sure did for me when I read it atleast lol. And I cant wait to see how it looks like in the anime. *sinister laugh* It's not that we doubt the series as a whole. It's more like we're surprised/mad that the first quarter of it is utter garbage. So far theres been 3 episodes that have rocked but still felt semi rushed and lacked details that would have made the story better. All the other episodes just didn't flow as smooth as the first series nor do they add anything new to the content....In fact they reduce the content by leaps and bounds just to please the manga fans. Small "filler" things like having statues move or spending a little extra time building up a character isn't to much to ask for. So far the things that where supposed to be dramatic (like major hughes' dead) have been lacking the special spark that was in the first series. That special spark being the character buildup and filler that made us all fall in love with his character. So far the same few people have been trying to push how amazing this series is because it follows the manga yet the majority either hate it or still have no opinion on the matter. I think it's safe to say this series is a mixed bag (some episodes rock while others are water down). I hope the "later" content in the manga is better then this. If not then I will continue to think this series is mediocre. |
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| I really enjoyed this episode, after a hard days work, and sitting back to watch some FMA:B nothing better then that lol. |
| A little bit of a boring episode, but still very funny none the less. |
DeathfireD said: So far the same few people have been trying to push how amazing this series is because it follows the manga yet the majority either hate it or still have no opinion on the matter. I think it's safe to say this series is a mixed bag (some episodes rock while others are water down). I hope the "later" content in the manga is better then this. If not then I will continue to think this series is mediocre. Really? Because the polls on each thread argue that the majority <i>like</i> the new series, and you nay-sayers are much fewer, even if you are more vocal than most. As far as your comment about the series being "garbage", well one man's trash is another man's treasure. If you feel FMA:B fails to live up to your standards, then by all means feel free to pull out your 1st series DVDs and watch those instead. |
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DeathfireD said: So far the same few people have been trying to push how amazing this series is because it follows the manga yet the majority either hate it or still have no opinion on the matter. I think it's safe to say this series is a mixed bag (some episodes rock while others are water down). I hope the "later" content in the manga is better then this. If not then I will continue to think this series is mediocre. Hmm all I can say is....it's time to quote myseldf XD!!: robbydesu said: Neonar said: I think people are just too hung up on FMA (2003) ><;;.. Clearly if people compared the previous anime to this one it is understandable to perceive FMA:B as more "rushed". But I think if some people (because I'm sure there are people out there who is already doing this) start considering FMA:B as an anime itself it wouldn't seem that "rushed".Great episode. Still following the manga faithfully with only minor exceptions. I dont understand why people thinks every episode gets rushed though. They are flowing on with pretty decent speed if you ask me. robbydesu said: Maybe people are quick to think that "remake" means it's supposed to be better than the previous anime. So with that sort of mindset, people are more inclined to view this series analytically and with such scrutiny that it becomes trivial at times. Some viewers don't just sit back and watch the series and enjoy what is being given to them - they are so caught up in the whole remake idea that they look at every single detail. Then sometimes it just progresses into this whole black and white thinking of it's either like or dislike - but of course it must have a reason behind it. I don't mind if people don't like this series, I just don't think it gives must justice to the anime to base that opinion on the comparison between FMA (2003) and FMA:B :(.. I guess it's a given that people compare the two series, I do that too. But I don't solely base my opinions on just that. I just hope more people learn to give some leaway to the anime because it's not like FMA:B was made to be better than the previous one, it's just a remake that's based on the manga, simple as that. That's just all my opinion though :P.. I apologize if this is totally irrelevant to what you were trying to say though XD I'm lacking sleep at the moment hahaha |
DeathfireD said: It's not that we doubt the series as a whole. It's more like we're surprised/mad that the first quarter of it is utter garbage. No its not. Even the worst episode 2 beats everything in FMA1. Everything beats FMA1: Pacing? Better than FMA1 Storytelling? Better than FMA1 Music? WAY BETTER than FMA1 Animation? Off the charts ;] DeathfireD said: So far theres been 3 episodes that have rocked but still felt semi rushed and lacked details that would have made the story better. Thats not "rushing". Thats removing unneeded stupid fillers, like gay parrots or fake elrics. DeathfireD said: All the other episodes just didn't flow as smooth as the first series nor do they add anything new to the content... The only episode which did not "flow" so far was Ep2. DeathfireD said: Small "filler" things like having statues move or spending a little extra time building up a character isn't to much to ask for. 1. Character development is as good as it is. Better than the emo-BAWW of FMA1, at least. 2. The Statue chase in FMA1 Lior was one of the MOST random and stupid things ever done. DeathfireD said: So far the things that where supposed to be dramatic (like major hughes' dead) have been lacking the special spark that was in the first series. 1. Take off the rose-coloured glasses through which you see FMA1. 2. If by "lacking a spark" you mean "less emo". Then yes the true FMA is not for you. FMA2(and manga) portrays life in more realistic fashion, instead of "world revolves around Elrics and screws with them". DeathfireD said: That special spark being the character buildup and filler that made us all fall in love with his character. As far as I know the fillers only destroyed personalities of characters in FMA1. Al was made into a total wimp, Ed into an emo guy who baws for ~20 episodes, Mustang into one-eyed emo wimp and other characters were just pushed aside as decorations(Winry got no character development in FMA1. Armstrong? Nothing, anyone else? Nothing.) Oh so sorry for the fact that I like characters as they are supposed to be and not as some director saw them through his emo-glasses. DeathfireD said: So far the same few people have been trying to push how amazing this series is because it follows the manga yet the majority either hate it or still have no opinion on the matter. And obviously you are teh majority and your opinion is teh right </sarcasm> DeathfireD said: I think it's safe to say this series is a mixed bag (some episodes rock while others are water down). I hope the "later" content in the manga is better then this. If not then I will continue to think this series is mediocre. Then you can drop the series if you "mediocre" them every episode, because yes, manga material does not loose the funny spark, does not introduce shotacon characters, rape or incest and etc. You can go back to yer precious 80% filler FMA1 and be happy. robbydesu said: robbydesu said: O think people are just too hung up on FMA (2003) ><;;.. Clearly if people compared the previous anime to this one it is understandable to perceive FMA:B as more "rushed". But I think if some people (because I'm sure there are people out there who is already doing this) start considering FMA:B as an anime itself it wouldn't seem that "rushed". robbydesu said: Maybe people are quick to think that "remake" means it's supposed to be better than the previous anime. So with that sort of mindset, people are more inclined to view this series analytically and with such scrutiny that it becomes trivial at times. Some viewers don't just sit back and watch the series and enjoy what is being given to them - they are so caught up in the whole remake idea that they look at every single detail. Then sometimes it just progresses into this whole black and white thinking of it's either like or dislike - but of course it must have a reason behind it. I don't mind if people don't like this series, I just don't think it gives must justice to the anime to base that opinion on the comparison between FMA (2003) and FMA:B :(.. I guess it's a given that people compare the two series, I do that too. But I don't solely base my opinions on just that. I just hope more people learn to give some leaway to the anime because it's not like FMA:B was made to be better than the previous one, it's just a remake that's based on the manga, simple as that. Agreed. Some people need to take off their rose-coloured glasses made for talking about FMA1.. Its ok to be nostalgic, but FMA1 was nothing that special, especially since it lacked the charm that manga has. |
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Jmaster363 said: So far this series has not done the manga or FMA1 justice the whole key part of FMA that made it stand out above the other clumps of genneric shonen full of long speeches and lazer beams was the character development and building of relationships which this series has not even attempted to do All the char development so far is 1:1 with manga. Jmaster363 said: The episodes being rushed dosent let new viewers(ive read the manga and seen the first anime) dosent allow us to meet the characters or get to know them its all a bunch of lame jokes and shit If you have read the manga you would know that the only episode to be truly rushed was Episode 2. Everything else followed manga REAL close, minus unneeded minor stuff or some jokes. |
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| Yay Izumi is next :D |
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greenmush said: lol when Ed imagine himself taller i was like LOL hahaha that was funny |
| Those townspeople...ripped Ed's clothes off. O_O |
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AnimeloverYori said: Fanatics to the extreme!Those townspeople...ripped Ed's clothes off. O_O This was a good episode. Plenty of laugh out loud moments and yet some serious moments as well - kept a nice balance. The music was really nice too, especially after the birth. I thought it fit the moment quite nicely. And very cool foreshadowing with the picture of Greed at the end! Next episode should be a good one as well. Always did like the 'one is all, all is one' idea. |
| Clearly those who feel the series is rushed have not read the manga at all. I have already made my earlier comments, but I will again have to agree with FAI here. This series so far has followed the manga 1:1 with a few "cut" jokes etc. The only reason this feels so rushed is because Bones bloated the first series because they knew if they had not they would have caught up to the manga a lot quicker and would have been stuck. Please keep in mind that the manga is only published maybe every 4 months or so and started in 2001-2002. When Bones decided to animate the first adaption in 2003 there wasn't that much content to go by (only roughly 16 chapters to start with? Thats not alot). Hence the reasoning to have a chapter or two spread out over 3 episodes. Now that we are well far "behind" from the manga in a sense I applaud Bones stepping in to take the time again, to animate the series step by step. Don't compare this series to the old one, the first FMA is a series of its own that has an end. This time around most of you will all get to experience what most have already gotten a chance to enjoy in the written form, and for some of us, get to see the end animated right as the final issue of the manga is released. So far I am enjoying it fully. If you don't like the current direction, character development, comedy, whatever of Brotherhood you honestly would have never liked the actual story. |
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| Funny episode, but awful after the death of Hugues in the previous one make me feel that his dead was for nothing and that is so sad |
Fai said: No its not. Even the worst episode 2 beats everything in FMA1. Everything beats FMA1: Pacing? Better than FMA1 Storytelling? Better than FMA1 Music? WAY BETTER than FMA1 Animation? Off the charts ;] No it doesn't. Pacing was definitely better in FMA1. So many people are complaining about pacing in FMA2 and not for nothing, so you certainly can't say its pacing is better just because you like it. Storytelling in FMA2 isn't better, that's our main complaint. The pacing is part of the storytelling. Music way better than FMA1???!! I can't remember any music from FMA2, yet FMA1 always delivered excellent music. Animation is better in FMA2 but made after this many years, it's definitely expected and natural. Fai said: Thats not "rushing". Thats removing unneeded stupid fillers, like gay parrots or fake elrics. The individual episodes are rushing. I'm not saying the story is rushing, it's going at the right speed. But somehow many episodes feel like they could have been done better. Fai said: 1. Character development is as good as it is. Better than the emo-BAWW of FMA1, at least. 2. The Statue chase in FMA1 Lior was one of the MOST random and stupid things ever done. Character development in FMA2 is quite good, but you can never say it was bad in FMA1. FMA1 made us fan of this series and made us like ED, Mustang, Hughes, Riza, Havoc, Lust, Scar and others. Winry and Armstrong could have been done better, I agree. Statue chase was kinda strange. But what about the first episode of FMA2, moving icebergs or glaciers :D I wonder what you'd have said if that was shown in FMA1. Fai said: 1. Take off the rose-coloured glasses through which you see FMA1. ha ha, I can say the same thing for you about FMA2. You can't appreciate anything about FMA1 and seem to like everything about FMA2. The FMA1 fans aren't that biased. Fai said: 2. If by "lacking a spark" you mean "less emo". Then yes the true FMA is not for you. FMA2(and manga) portrays life in more realistic fashion, instead of "world revolves around Elrics and screws with them". "more realistic", err, in what way? FMA1 was able to bring out emotions, so that's less realistic? It's great to see how you can turn an achievement into failure. Head of the military going out of the window after visiting an injured state alchemist seems pretty realistic to me :P Fai said: All the char development so far is 1:1 with manga. If you have read the manga you would know that the only episode to be truly rushed was Episode 2. Everything else followed manga REAL close, minus unneeded minor stuff or some jokes. I don't care about the manga and how faithfully FMA2 is following it. I want the anime to be good. So maybe they are putting the manga pictures together and calling it FMA2 but it's not working gr8 atm. |
Sapta said: Fai said: 1. Character development is as good as it is. Better than the emo-BAWW of FMA1, at least. 2. The Statue chase in FMA1 Lior was one of the MOST random and stupid things ever done. Character development in FMA2 is quite good, but you can never say it was bad in FMA1. FMA1 made us fan of this series and made us like ED, Mustang, Hughes, Riza, Havoc, Lust, Scar and others. Winry and Armstrong could have been done better, I agree. Statue chase was kinda strange. But what about the first episode of FMA2, moving icebergs or glaciers :D I wonder what you'd have said if that was shown in FMA1. Fai said: 2. If by "lacking a spark" you mean "less emo". Then yes the true FMA is not for you. FMA2(and manga) portrays life in more realistic fashion, instead of "world revolves around Elrics and screws with them". "more realistic", err, in what way? FMA1 was able to bring out emotions, so that's less realistic? It's great to see how you can turn an achievement into failure. Head of the military going out of the window after visiting an injured state alchemist seems pretty realistic to me :P Fai may have gotten a bit extreme with some of his points, but overall I have to agree. FMA1 was very heavy on the angst/melodrama, much more so than the manga. If that's your thing, then fine, but that's not what FMA's really about, so don't expect the tone of FMA:B to change much. As far as Bradley jumping out of the window, that's just his personality. He's supposed to be the kind of leader who does stuff that makes you go "Bwah?? Shouldn't he be more... dignified?" As far as the character development in FMA1, it's fine if you take FMA1 as a totally different series than the manga, but there were huge changes in many of the characters' personalities. Take Lust for example, she's pretty much a completely different person in FMA1 as a result of being created from And the glaciers in ep 1 were far better than the statue thing. His specialty was alchemy dealing with water, of course there were going to be great chunks of ice everywhere! Bad example, mate. :P |
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Omegaoveride said: Clearly those who feel the series is rushed have not read the manga at all I've read the manga, I feel it's rushed. This is why you shouldn't phrase your opinions as though they were facts. Sapta said: ha ha, I can say the same thing for you about FMA2. You can't appreciate anything about FMA1 and seem to like everything about FMA2. The FMA1 fans aren't that biased. If you want to see bias, you should look up what he said in the comparison thread. Capabellabun said: Who is the majority? Out of all of the comments on each of these episodes there are fewer people saying they hate it amongst those who like it or are mixed about it. Also, the polls say differently and so does the rating for this series. That's sort of to be expected when this could be considered as "enemy territory." Sapta said: I don't care about the manga and how faithfully FMA2 is following it. I want the anime to be good. So maybe they are putting the manga pictures together and calling it FMA2 but it's not working gr8 atm. I can see where you're trying to get at with this. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that logic isn't going to fly well with FMA:B fans. Noticed how often people get attacked in this section who support FMA1, or how much FMA1 gets bashed for not following the manga? I've seen some arguments where a person says something stupid like, "Well he only likes FMA1 better than Brotherhoood because he hasn't read the manga..." Yeah, cause if someone doesn't read the manga, it negates their own opinion of FMA > FMA Brotherhood right? Notice that if you want to voice your opinions here, you have to be the following: a. A bias FMA Brotherhood fan. b. A non-bias FMA Brotherhood fan. c. A yes man. B only applies if you have nothing bad to say about Brotherhood btw, otherwise A might force you into becoming C. Constructive criticisms or comparisons where FMA > FMA Brotherhood doesn't seem welcomed here. Which is a shame, since I thought this was a place for discussion. |
AtomicNerdJun 19, 2009 12:23 AM
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AtomicNerd said: I've read the manga, I feel it's rushed. This is why you shouldn't phrase your opinions as though they were facts. I have read the manga, I feel its not rushed. Seeing that you have "FMA"1 in favourite anime list, ill jsut repeat what I said before: Take off the rose-coloured glasses you look at "FMA"1 with. AtomicNerd said: If you want to see bias, you should look up what he said in the comparison thread. Only arguments, while other's were just going on "on just how great FMA1 was". Nostalgia is a powerful thing to cloud the minds, eh? AtomicNerd said: That's sort of to be expected when this could be considered as "enemy territory." You are always free to go back to "friendly territory" and never come back ;] AtomicNerd said: I can see where you're trying to get at with this. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that logic isn't going to fly well with FMA:B fans. Noticed how often people get attacked in this section who support FMA1, or how much FMA1 gets bashed for not following the manga? Yes because FMA1, while managing to be an average anime by itself, fails completely when compared to manga. No one wants to compare, however some people just tend to start it by comparing FMA2 to "FMA"1. AtomicNerd said: I've seen some arguments where a person says something stupid like, "Well he only likes FMA1 better than Brotherhoood because he hasn't read the manga..." Yeah, cause if someone doesn't read the manga, it negates their own opinion of FMA > FMA Brotherhood right? Yes. Yes it Does. If person loved just how emo "FMA"1 was, then he will never read the manga or LIKE it(or FMA2) for that matter. AtomicNerd said: Notice that if you want to voice your opinions here, you have to be the following: a. A bias FMA Brotherhood fan. b. A non-bias FMA Brotherhood fan. c. A yes man. In MAL, I have yet to see any opinions for "its bad", except for "fma1 did that, liek so much bettar", "Omg rruuuush'd" comments and occassional trolling AtomicNerd said: Constructive criticisms or comparisons where FMA > FMA Brotherhood doesn't seem welcomed here. Which is a shame, since I thought this was a place for discussion. WHAT constructive criticism? Such thing never happened in FMA:B threads till now. ; Sapta said: No it doesn't. Pacing was definitely better in FMA1. So many people are complaining about pacing in FMA2 and not for nothing, so you certainly can't say its pacing is better just because you like it. For me, and for at least ~80% of those that commented in this thread there are no problems with pacing. Of course FMA1 was EXTREMELY stretched out with unneeded fillers, so thats just expected for people to feel that the "canon" pace is faster than "let's spend ten episodes for Al angst" of FMA1. Sapta said: Storytelling in FMA2 isn't better, that's our main complaint. The pacing is part of the storytelling. If you don't like the current storytelling, then there's 70% chance that you will hate the manga-original content. ;] As I said before, some people love how everything was spelled out in fma1. Some people love how overly-melodramatic and emo fma1 was. MAnga storyline is more in-line with the main idea of "moving forward". Its more "epic" and storyline does not always center around Elric Brothers. I would say that each character is equally important there and Elric Brothers are not "the center source of all what's happening". Overall, The Greed Arc will be 99% manga-material(begining in Sapta said: Music way better than FMA1???!! I can't remember any music from FMA2, yet FMA1 always delivered excellent music. FMA1 music is overrated. It cannot compare to Kajiura Yuki, Kawai Kenji, Susumu Hirasawa or Akira Senju for that matter. Sapta said: Animation is better in FMA2 but made after this many years, it's definitely expected and natural. Animation is MORE FAITHFUL to manga in FMA2. I'll just repost:       Sapta said: The individual episodes are rushing. I'm not saying the story is rushing, it's going at the right speed. But somehow many episodes feel like they could have been done better. The only episode I could agree with is EP2. However if you feel that its "badly paced" all the time, then you won't like manga-only material as its fast paced all the time ;] Sapta said: Character development in FMA2 is quite good, but you can never say it was bad in FMA1. FMA1 made us fan of this series and made us like ED, Mustang, Hughes, Riza, Havoc, Lust, Scar and others. Winry and Armstrong could have been done better, I agree. Hated Ed in FMA1 for his wimp-ness and bad psychological state. Optimistic, Evil tsundere Ed of FMA2/Manga is way better. Mustang was degraded into weakling without his own character or goals. Riza - I could stand her in FMA1, but I like her connection with Mustang better in FMA2 and Manga. Havoc got no character development at all in FMA1. He was just there. Lust was way too overdramatic for my tastes. I ended up liking Manga!Lust more(I have read the manga AFTER watching FMA1) And Scar is certain case of what is called Character Derailment Sapta said: Statue chase was kinda strange. But what about the first episode of FMA2, moving icebergs or glaciers :D I wonder what you'd have said if that was shown in FMA1. Icerbergs were totally cool and in line with the Character of Isaac and how alchemy works. Remote-controlled huge statues chasing the main character were totally uncool and NOT in line with the character of "stupid priest who happened to get a ph stone". Sapta said: ha ha, I can say the same thing for you about FMA2. You can't appreciate anything about FMA1 and seem to like everything about FMA2. Yes because I facepalm'd at most of things in FMA1 even before starting to read the manga. Sapta said: "more realistic", err, in what way? FMA1 was able to bring out emotions, so that's less realistic? There was too much emotion. EVERY. DAMN. THING. WAS. THE. FAULT. OF. ELRIC. Brothers. Every damn character got some trauma that would make person i n real life do a suicide. Heck It was the same as what I would imagine be watching a bear rape and slowly eat 12 year old girl. Sapta said: Head of the military going out of the window after visiting an injured state alchemist seems pretty realistic to me :P Thats Bradley for you. That's just how he is. That's just how he will be. Bradley is basically a synonim for randomness, jokes and...melons. |
AhenshihaelJun 19, 2009 1:15 AM
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