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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- As always, the three biships are looking after Mikage and Teito. And for those who were wondering how he changed his clothes with his chain on. It was shown that Teito used magic to change his clothes. (Well, I think you guys already know). I think this shot has nice effect: |
tsubasaloverMay 26, 2009 11:36 PM
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| FINALLY! The @#$%^ chains are off! However, Mikage is still around. (I'm starting to be reminded of Peter Sellers in the beginning of "The Party".) And just what were those flying girl-spirits who wanted to fool around with Frau? |
| I feel like I've been waiting years to see those stupid chains come off! That was probably the highlight of the episode for me. The rest was mildly interesting, but nothing stellar. The pacing of this show bores me; quite a while is used up with pointless scenery shots or random things like those spirits when it could be used for something better. Speaking of the spirits, I'm of the opinion that the attempt to lighten the episode a little bit with them teasing Frau fell flat. Ah, well. I may not love it, but I'll keep watching. |
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| I was waiting for this episode lol.. act i think they can do better on the fighting scenes n is it just me or the music is a 'bit' off in this episode? But again maybe my comp audio is not working well lol.. nway overall i liked it n thus will still follow on the anime.. besides |
| Great episode.... the chains have finally been removed. However, the collar has taken its place (which really shouldn't annoy me at all). Also, It seems that Ayanami will be meeting his match in the next eppy. Looking forward to it. |
StLzFirstLadyMay 26, 2009 12:59 PM
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| I don't know why, the scenes they did in the manga were much more interesting. I think the pacing to the story is too slow. The fighting parts are really leaving much to be desired. Sigh!! |
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| wow... XD i finally got rly interested in this anime one of the best episodes imo and yay finally the chains are off, but now a collar? <_< for once im looking forward in seeing the next episode |
| Hopefully they get better at pacing the series after this. I am glad they gave Mikage more of a presence but it just goes to slow. I still feel the manga is better hands down but just gotta stick around for Burupya, Hakuren and Kuroyuri. >_< Here's to hoping it picks up |
| Yay no more chains! XD I liked this episode, can't wait for next weeks! |
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| this episode was extremely boring and confused the heck outta me :\ |
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| Are LIF fansubs good' |
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| FINALLY. Those STUPID chains are gone. GOD that's gotta be one of the most annoying things to wait through >_O And... >w< Uwaaah...Mikage said he loved Teito~ *swoon* But poor Mikage T^T I ish sad... |
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| I'm glad that the plot is starting to move along. And finally those chains are gone! |
| looks so much better without being chained :) |
| Aside from the whole 'Teito's other half awakening thing' this was a boring episode IMO, but it was nice to see the chains finally come off,took them long enough. |
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| Well, then. As for this episode, it was very slowly paced. I know that the whole series has been up to this point, but dragging this thing out to two episodes (or whatever it has been) is really pushing it. For the most part, it looks like the story might be back on track with the manga, which is VICTORY! for me. But I have a feeling that we're about to experience this series as another Kuroshitsuji hell. We'll just have to see, I guess. |
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Dilly29 said: midnightsymphony said: Well, then. As for this episode, it was very slowly paced. I know that the whole series has been up to this point, but dragging this thing out to two episodes (or whatever it has been) is really pushing it. But yea, I was totally thinking the exact same thing as you! Dragging this out to the point it's put into two episodes was unacceptable! I don't see such benefit from doing that. Gaaah blah~ - - - Overall, I enjoyed this episode a lot especially since I've waited for this damn episode for more than a month (since I started reading the manga at episode 2), which was longer than necessary since we all know that they squeezed in two crummy fillers. I love how visual they were at the distinct changes in Mikage. The tears part was nice, although I remember it being more sad in the manga. I was impressed with the apparance of the eye of Mikhal, he looked really cool! I hope people didn't miss him~! (20:46 :P) Things I don't like? Errr where do I start XD? I think it just really sucks how the anime loses out a lot of the awe factor because of the way they presented the plot and characters in previous episodes. Zehel's "official" (he technically appeared for a split second in episode 4, but I don't think any non-manga fans noticed) first appearance? I don't think anyone has made any comment about him in this thread so far other than people who read the manga. I remembered going "wtf?!" in the manga when it came to Zehel. In this episode, they made it so obvious that it was Frau because of that moment where he sorta whips out his scythe. What ever happened to the dummy Frau?! I was looking forward to that, it was so funny (he was drooling right?). Nonetheless though, I'm still glad that he finally showed up XD I think the awe factor with the eye of Mikhal is also taken away because of the previous two episodes :(... *sighs~* I guess I should be glad that they are back on track with the manga XD. But something tells me that this isn't going to last for very long... |
robbydesuMay 28, 2009 1:45 AM
| finally..stupid..chains..gone..thats all i care about..lots of complaints..maybe i should read the manga |
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| new power awakened ?! o_o |
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sailorlitakino said: this episode was extremely boring and confused the heck outta me : Dropped. |
YuaLaurant said: That's too bad :(sailorlitakino said: this episode was extremely boring and confused the heck outta me : Dropped. |
| they seriously DO have an issue with pacing I wanna stick with this so bad (and to do that I'd probably have to avoid the manga or I'd otherwise drop this so quick cuz it DOES feel too slow...) ...and they do have a bad habit of sticking cliffhangers at the end...do they think cliffhangers will hook more people or something? ....sigh... Well this episode was nice in that the Eye of Mikhail awakened (yay it possesses him! Not just spontaneously pops out like the previous eps---that's just plain BORING--- ) And the ghost from Frau was cool but.....he just had to wander around looking like a lost idiot afterwards ._.; Frau...your cool factor dropped a bit there.... And I so LOLed at the "Let's trade your chains for an eyeball collar!" ....Made Teito look like he couldn't take his chains off by himself <__< |
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| Embarrassing, if i was the writer for this series, i would be clearing out my desk right about now. With untold years worth of materials to draw from when making an "friend betraying friend against will" scene, that is the best they could do, with that... dialogue? I never read the manga so i can only go by what i see. Why am i supposed to care that they're now fighting? the series did an unacceptable job of showing (rather than him just constantly telling us that mikeage is his friend which is nice for information uses i suppose, but not much more) the relationship between the two of them so it comes as little surprise that a moment like this has people waiting for it be over rather than agonizing over friend having to fight friend. The lack of humanizing our main characters also leads to the lack of a real "arch enemy" since Ayanami is a rather bland character whom is totally undeveloped except he did some stuff to mikage. I'll probably watch the next episode to see what is up with teito's awakening, but since this series is infamous for having poor combat and dialogue, i'm not expecting much. |
Sporkness said: Me too XD anyway, I'm glad that he's finally rid of the chains. Why didn't he ever ask anyone if there was any other way to get them off? Why didn't anyone offer? Sleeping with them on must have really sucked D= Anyway, I just found this anime and I'm I glad I did. Lots of shonen-ai potential ^_^ and I like the main characters, which isn't common with me. Can anyone who reads the manga tell me if there's any more scenes that might appeal to a BL fangirl in the future? A lot of sites list the series as 'romance' but not as 'shonen-ai' so I was wondering if a girl appears in either boy's life in the future? *hopes not* |
| so it takes 8 episodes for someone to TAKE THE FRAKNG CHAINS OFF... and the yaoi crap is really starting to bug the hell out of me, not to mention the snail's pace, hell I think the Bleach episodes are moving faster than this show. |
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WolfWood37 said: Haha yeaa it's really sad how all the majority people care about when they watch this anime are the damn chains. Really goes to show you how Studio DEEN isn't doing a very good job :(...so it takes 8 episodes for someone to TAKE THE FRAKNG CHAINS OFF... and the yaoi crap is really starting to bug the hell out of me, not to mention the snail's pace, hell I think the Bleach episodes are moving faster than this show. So yea, I can't resist in bringing this up again. But where's the yaoi? XD *dodges the tomatoes* I know there will always be a person who gets the term wrong...but I can't help it ><!! Xephia said: Hahaha don't put too much hope on the theme of shounen-ai sweetie :P There is no indication of any romantic love between any guys. There's more shounen-ai in Kyou Kara Maou than in here XD.Anyway, I just found this anime and I'm I glad I did. Lots of shonen-ai potential ^_^ and I like the main characters, which isn't common with me. Can anyone who reads the manga tell me if there's any more scenes that might appeal to a BL fangirl in the future? A lot of sites list the series as 'romance' but not as 'shonen-ai' so I was wondering if a girl appears in either boy's life in the future? *hopes not* Although it's very easy for a shounen-ai fangirl/fanboy to interpret friendship between guys as something more like Mikage and Teito :P.. But who knows~ the manga isn't finished so anything is possible XD Spoiler for Manga Chapter 37 And don't worry, there aren't any important female characters that show up at this point~ The only important "female" character would be Razette.....but does she even have a specific gender? I'll just assume she's female ^^; |
robbydesuMay 29, 2009 1:33 AM
| Finally, the fucking chains are off. |
| I loved it! And i also liked that üpart when mikage says:I love you teito(i was almost crieng:D) [I guess that that part was in ep /] |
| Finally!!! Teito will show his true strength! Beauty of episode! :) |
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| The pacing was off and the music was unusually bad. The reveal about Mikage was handled poorly and the episode was just sub-par. Interested in the next episode, though. |
| Finally the chains are off xD I hope that Mikage wont die like everyone says T__T |
| Woo i think the show has finally finished wiht this arc and the real interesting bits are coming now. I guess the death of mikage was somewhat sad *cough* but now we get Burupya (woot!). I hope they slug this slow start off =) |
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Pyrrhus said: Spoiler tags please :)Woo i think the show has finally finished wiht this arc and the real interesting bits are coming now. I guess the death of mikage was somewhat sad *cough* but now we get Burupya (woot!). I hope they slug this slow start off =) |
| Good episode even though it was a little slow. Looking forward to the next one^^ |
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| I loved it! ^_^ When Mikage said, "I love you." I was really wishing he were facing the screen. That way this little fangirl could imagine him saying it to her. LOL Anyway, I'm very worried about Mikage's fate. T_T BUT I screamed outloud for joy when Teito's chains finally came off. ^_^ |
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| Haha I sse people are really excited teh chians came off. Same! xd |
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| Very good Episode. |
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| Pros: moe church impersonification, something finally happens (red eyes etc...). Cons: everything else. It's all so artificial, fake, tiring, boring... Furthermore in this ep there was a riddiculous amount of anmations compared to the other: tons of zoom-in/zoom-out still scenes, and way too many crappy CG attacks. 17 to go. Gah. |
| The las ep was soo cool~ Man do i love Aya-tan <3 he`s so evil ^_^ i can`t wait for the next ep <3 |
| so slow paced and still too much bromance wth |
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mystik said: so slow paced and still too much bromance wth well it does have bromance and mangaka is woman so, it more made for girl then guy, which i'm not 100% sure yet. I see so many guy drop ths anme , which I understand why. And i'm sorry for my grammar/ |
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KuroTsuki14 said: I know you mean well, but what you said really bothers me. Just because a manga has a specific genre stuck to it it doesn't necessarily mean only girls can read it, or only guys can read it, etc. etc. Why can't it just ever be the story itself and who likes what sort of storyline? I'm a girl and I like reading shounen stuff. Therefore I don't believe on such a rule that dictates which gender is supposed to read which genre of manga.mystik said: so slow paced and still too much bromance wth well it does have bromance and mangaka is woman so, it more made for girl then guy, which i'm not 100% sure yet. I see so many guy drop ths anme , which understand why. And i'm sorry for my grammar/ And the gender of an author does not have complete control over the content of a manga. I'm sure there are male mangakas out there who create shoujo/josei manga and female mangakas who create shounen manga. Also to mystik, I hope you'll have enough patience to stick around a little more :) It is quite a shame that the pace is slow (imho I don't think they are going to quicken the pace XD) but I hope this "bromance" (I don't agree with this though) won't deter you away from the series :P |
| Just because an anime has boy love, doesn't excuse it from severely failing at forming a competent story filled with interested and developed characters that viewers can empathize with. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that these problems would not be solved for many people dropping the show if mikage was some school girl and the people caring for mikage were all attractive nuns. I don't mind that Mikage and Teito are obviously more than just friends (in fact it cracked me up when mikage asked teito if there was any girls he liked at the church), but other serious problems do bother me. I can even deal with the church basically being a male model agency if they give the characters some life. I hate how this anime is all about telling us about things rather than showing them through the use of effective and emotionally charged scenes (mikage is my best friend, white haired guy is my big enemy, everyone treated me like a slave except mikage, isn't it horrible how this girl got possessed by a kor, etct etc). The girl possessed by kor is my favorite example because it was done extremely poorly to introduce a major force in the story and if you're watching Pandora Hearts there is an extremely similar scene that was instead done VERY well. They need to put the show on hold until the writers can watch Blood+ or something that gives them an example of how to make good characters and good enemies. For example, i would have MUCH MUCH MUCH preferred if they spent 3-4 episodes at the school before the incident to ground viewers with teito and show how everyone treated him like crap until he met teito. then they could pass various trials together until finally events get out of hand and mikage is forced to make his mistake. Now the viewers have an idea of how their lives are thrown in to a disarray over what is happening and how/why they miss each other. They've also grown attached to both characters so their fight is something that is trying for them and looks realistic. Doing something like that wouldn't make the show look like it is just about teito moping around in a church for half of the series. |
MurbellaJun 1, 2009 3:15 PM
Falatorx said: I completely agree with you on this. I mean Studio Deen really did a terrible job at showing the important things. I mean, they tried to emphasize the strong friendship between Teito and Mikage with that episode with Mikage's sister and that other episode about the random kid (epi 6 & 7) and extended this odd atmosphere between the two. I mean they say they are great friends, but those two extra episodes did absolutely nothing but make everything worse. Dragging it out longer without giving a substantial representation of the love (friendship love) between those two is just damaging overall. As much as I love the manga, when I watch this anime it just feels a bit different...my attachment is just not there.Just because an anime has boy love, doesn't excuse it from severely failing at forming a competent story filled with interested and developed characters that viewers can empathize with. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that these problems would not be solved for many people dropping the show if mikage was some school girl and the people caring for mikage were all attractive nuns. I don't mind that Mikage and Teito are obviously more than just friends (in fact it cracked me up when mikage asked teito if there was any girls he liked at the church), but other serious problems do bother me. I can even deal with the church basically being a male model agency if they give the characters some life. I hate how this anime is all about telling us about things rather than showing them through the use of effective and emotionally charged scenes (mikage is my best friend, white haired guy is my big enemy, everyone treated me like a slave except mikage, isn't it horrible how this girl got possessed by a kor, etct etc). They need to put the show on hold until the writers can watch Blood+ or something that gives them an example of how to make good characters and good enemies. I might have mentioned this a tad bit in the beginning, but even Teito's character seems a bit different. Maybe it's the seiyuu (I can't get wolfram's character out of my head :P) but Teito just seems bratty and a tad bit self-centered. And that's disappointing to me because I really like Teito in the manga. The only thing I don't agree with is this whole "bromance/shounen ai/boy love" thing that people have been spewing about once in a while. As much as I enjoy shounen-ai, and as much as I want to imagine a shounen-ai thing going on (I probably do once in a while) in this series - but this isn't shounen ai people. Just because the majority of the characters are male and they show a strong friendship between two guys and say "I love you" (what, you don't say "I love you" to your same sex friend?) doesn't mean it has to be a shounen-ai series. I think this is why people aren't enjoying this series so much. When Studio Deen likes to abuse there control into creating this not so great adaptation and when people misunderstand/misinterpret something so important to this series (the friendship between these two guys) ....it really is no wonder why people just complain about the series. I mean, amongst the many posts I read in the the threads about this series, what is the most common comment I see? The stupid damn chains that Teito has. I means seriously?! Really guys, if all you get from this series is the damn annoying chains, and you can't just bare yourself to ignore it. Then...I dunno what else to say. I really apologize for such a long and rude post. :( |
robbydesu said: KuroTsuki14 said: I know you mean well, but what you said really bothers me. Just because a manga has a specific genre stuck to it it doesn't necessarily mean only girls can read it, or only guys can read it, etc. etc. Why can't it just ever be the story itself and who likes what sort of storyline? I'm a girl and I like reading shounen stuff. Therefore I don't believe on such a rule that dictates which gender is supposed to read which genre of manga.mystik said: so slow paced and still too much bromance wth well it does have bromance and mangaka is woman so, it more made for girl then guy, which i'm not 100% sure yet. I see so many guy drop ths anme , which understand why. And i'm sorry for my grammar/ And the gender of an author does not have complete control over the content of a manga. I'm sure there are male mangakas out there who create shoujo/josei manga and female mangakas who create shounen manga. Also to mystik, I hope you'll have enough patience to stick around a little more :) It is quite a shame that the pace is slow (imho I don't think they are going to quicken the pace XD) but I hope this "bromance" (I don't agree with this though) won't deter you away from the series :P I'm ok with anime/manga that doesn't have specific genre. Meaning by no ecchi or yaoi. Like um it safe for an genre to see it. Its kind of hard to expland. When i think of shoujo I think stuff that girls theme( bl,magic,romance, cute stuff) and some with shounen theme (ecchi,girls, yuri, fights, and so on). Its like tell some one what inside the manga, without open it. And I know there some Shounen stuff that girl like and shoujo stuff boy likes. I also like shounen with out to much girl and ecchic scene. |
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