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| Reminded me of the "Acperience" episodes from the first series. |
herpderpwong said: DJ007 said: Finally we got some flashbacks about Eureka and other world. Maybe something than Elena mentioned that was underneath the facility is the entrance to the other world, where Eureka na Renton live? Elena didn't do so much as to say there was an entrance to the other world but she did say there was the remains of a civilisation that is not from this world. From the episode Truth first attacked the headquarters of Gen Blu, we were given a hint that the Nirvash Type theEND was held under the headquarters. She was probably referring to that. Also, the world Ao lives in is the one one that is under the other one, not the other way around. Wasn't theEND destroyed by the satellite though? |
| Now this is more like it. Better music and the story seems to be much more closely linked to E7. Look forward to be surprised. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Guys, OST is out and it's really good. |
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Ahri said: herpderpwong said: DJ007 said: Finally we got some flashbacks about Eureka and other world. Maybe something than Elena mentioned that was underneath the facility is the entrance to the other world, where Eureka na Renton live? Elena didn't do so much as to say there was an entrance to the other world but she did say there was the remains of a civilisation that is not from this world. From the episode Truth first attacked the headquarters of Gen Blu, we were given a hint that the Nirvash Type theEND was held under the headquarters. She was probably referring to that. Also, the world Ao lives in is the one one that is under the other one, not the other way around. Wasn't theEND destroyed by the satellite though? Yes, theEND did appear to be destroyed but look at this: http://i.imgur.com/BxS6m.jpg The top is the picture of the 'thing' underneath the Gen Blu headquarters and the bottom picture is of theEND in E7. A bit too similar don't you think? |
| lol well i got no deep analysis on this matter like some people here but i think the Elena that AO is interacting now is a scab coral (ALIEN) with memories of both Elena and Miller i said this because of the title of this episode was Mirror of the World so those scab coral ALIENS might have found a way to mirror themselves on humans they interact with just for the purpose of blending with humans and understand humans more i just remember some basic biology to expand what im saying its about IMITATION one of the basic form of learning -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethology#Learning |
degJul 1, 2012 12:19 AM
| Ignore my hypothesis about Anemone and Dominic. I never really thought about it until now but... Elena could possibly be the child of Holland and Talho considering Talho was pregnant at the end of the original series. This could be exact but I still have to think about how Elena wasn't affected by the trapar dust particles like AO. Perhaps she was brought down as a human but altered to be similar to a Coralian in the facility? Elena also did have visions of the Gekko and the typeZero so she could be the daughter of Talho / Holland |
ChuphenjJul 1, 2012 10:37 AM
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Ahri said: This episode has to be one of the best episodes yet. Mainly because of Elena's flashback. It reveals SO much, and opens many doors to various theories as to what could be happening here. One of the main themes that have been going on is calling that world a fake. AdolChristin said: So the coralians said in the last ep of E7 that they will try to seek peace and they hope humans and coralians can live together again in the future. The general conscience is that Ao's world is the one half of the humans got transferred to. So what if the Secrets are here to transfer them back? We saw it in last week's episode that humans just disappear when they're hit with a Secret's attack and when they were trying to attack it, Truth said something like "the Secrets aren't what you think they are". Also, it was good to see the Renton <3 Eureka moon in this episode, even if for just a sec. I really got excited at that scene. I agree that this could be the case, the only problem with that however is that world was a library more or less. However there isn't a huge library with tons of information. It looks normal in terms of another world. Anyways, as for what i'm leaning on. Ao's world and the original world are side by side. I also think that going into "The Zone" is the way people are transported between the two. As for Elena's memories.....She could be the child of Anemone and Dominic, this would just be awesome and amazing. The thing that bugs me about that is.....Their child wouldn't have Memories of flying on the Gekko state, being with Eureka, etc....One theory i was thinking about, could she be Maeter? It'd explain why she has those memories. The only problem with this would be however is that she has a different hair color, eye color, and skin color....Although it could be explained by the experiments they put her through..... Either way, i'm more inclined to go with the theory that it's Anemone and Dominic's child. Mostly because i think it would be interesting to see them again. Very interesting episode.....Extremely interesting. I actually juts thought about it and she could be the daughter of Holland / Talho. We do have to keep in mind that Talho was pregnant towards the end of Eureka Seven. Elena did also have memories of the Gekkostate and the typeZero so this could be her. However, she could also be the daughter of Anemone. So many possibilities... |
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nebuchadrezzar said: Ray-Out said: I think Elena is probably Anemone and Dominic's son as well although I certainly could be wrong ... daughter, but yes I agree - she was probably the one who took pictures of theEND (or whatever it is). LucarioNate said: Elena could possibly be the child of Holland and Talho considering Talho was pregnant at the end of the original series. Talho was pregnant at the end of the 1st series, but Eureka was much older when she gave birth to AO. If we ever meet Hooland's and Talho's child... he/she will be a bit older than kids from Piped Piper. There will be a new character called Yuna Maltan (Save the Prayer spinoff manga). Her face-shape is a bit similar to Talho... Yuna looks alot like Anemone to be honest. She is only 14 years old though... no idea if she is the daughter of Talho. |
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| Let me get this right.. They proved that Miller and Elena were once two different people based on DNA and simultaneous locations. So.. What happened to the real Miller? Oh jeez I hope "Elena" didn't kill her lol. Very interesting though. I won't make theories just yet besides that it's pretty obvious that nothing is as it seems, as Truth explained. More mindfucks to come. I will make a crack theory though. People are saying Elena could be Talho/Holland's kid. If that's the case she could be Gidget/Moondoggie's kid lol. We dunno what happened >.> I'm jk though. |
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menoobslayer said: Text. Your post would benefit greatly from proper punctuation and structured writing. I get what you're trying to say though - a popular theory floating around is that this world is "fake", and functions similarly to the Matrix, where "Truth" is essentially Neo, whom understands this fact to the fullest extent, and can free his mind from its limitations. I'm not sure how much I subscribe to this theory, but it's a possibility - what could be happening in this "world", which many of us though to be an alternate dimension at first, could entirely be happening within the vast "thoughts" of the Scub, though "thoughts" may not be an adequate term for such a phenomena. As seen near the end of the first series, the Scub Coral has the capability to act as sort of a "bio-computer", forging virtual realities (within its consciousness) which make it easier for the human mind to comprehend and traverse (Hence, the "library" Adroc and Diane found themselves in, as well as those with desperation disease). I feel it's a bit too early to discuss this possibility seriously, but here's a little something to chew on from the first series. Courtesy of anon:  Probably just a case of same-face, but something I find amusing/interesting nonetheless. |
| At last a nice episode! I've recovered my faith ='D |
| I couldn't help thinking during this episode WTF. I feel as though this is disgracing its predecessor. To say the truth right now the only reason im watching this show is to out more about Ao past and parents. One more thing I find it very disheartening that Ao barely thinks of Naru. This premise of teams and children only piloting IFOs is a downgrade from the original . Just a few of my thoughts. |
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Flashybrown said: I couldn't help thinking during this episode WTF. I feel as though this is disgracing its predecessor. Care to substantiate your complaints? |
This part in the episode made me me smile. This episode was great and I can't wait for the next but I have one question..... What happened to the real Miller? |
Riftguardian said: What happened to the real Miller? Dead. Same with the real Elena. The current fake Elena is essentially like Yuno in Mirai Nikki. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| wakka9ca aren't you supposed to put that last part in spoilers? |
| Have to say Noah is the best "mascot" character ever - how can you hate that little sloth? The episode was confusing to say the least, but I enjoyed the episode nevertheless. |
| I've gained a headache after watching this... |
| Uhm interesting. So the world Ao is in is Fake. Elena and miller tried saying there was another world that they could go to. Aka the world where renton and eureka used to live. You could also say that eureka fell into the fake world, which is why no one knows of what she and renton did to save the "Real" world. Also I believe that in E7 there were no oceans, or very little, however there was some when Renton and Eureka went into the real 'surface' of the earth which is down below where we saw the Scub control cluster. This is just my speculation on what I think. The whole "Fake" thing is over exaggerated. I mean it in a terms of a 'Seperate world' aka Ao was born in the sep world and not in the one where Eureka originally came from |
TyrelJul 5, 2012 4:38 PM
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| Holy crap, what a mindfuck episode, now it's definitely save to say there are two worlds, George even said that there are theories about a parallel world. Someone here posted a theory about an outside and inside world and I support that because Elena said there is another world outside but at the same time it lets me wonder what she meant with another culture further down below in HQ. Man, the part about Elena was quite shocking and went by too fast, I hope they don't abandon her story, we haven't got a closure yet. I don't understand why people are questioning what happened with the real Miller, she is dead, the fake Elena has probably killed her and we even saw how she buried her. wakka9ca said: Dead. Same with the real Elena. Dude, don't spoil it for people that haven't seen or read it yet. |
ZhouJul 5, 2012 8:41 AM
| It was a captivating episode all around. I just love it whenever this show decides to become all surreal and as expected it shed some light on Elena and her relationship to Mirror. |
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nebuchadrezzar said: wakka9ca said: Riftguardian said: What happened to the real Miller? Dead. Same with the real Elena. The current fake Elena is essentially like Yuno in Mirai Nikki. We don't really know what exactly had happened. Both Elena & Generation Blue knew that Miller was a spy after all. Although I can't really imagine Elena killing someone... or... maybe I simply don't want to ;) Tyrel said: Uhm interesting. So the world Ao is in is Fake. Elena and miller tried saying there was another world that they could go to. Aka the world where renton and eureka used to live. You could also say that eureka fell into the fake world, which is why no one knows of what she and renton did to save the "Real" world. Also I believe that in E7 there were no oceans, or very little, however there was some when Renton and Eureka went into the real 'surface' of the earth which is down below where we saw the Scub control cluster. This is just my speculation on what I think. Fake... the question is for whom? For AO, Elena, Truth guy... pretty much yes... as long as they come from the "original/outside" world. For the rest... it may not be that certain. Yeah the whole "Fake" thing is over exaggerated. I meant of it in a terms of a 'Seperate world' aka Ao was born in the sep world and not in the one where Eureka originally came from |
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| ... wut. |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| The fact that Ao was seeing Elena as Eureka and that Elena said good-bye to "Miller" and herself has me worried about Eureka's fate and who Elena really is. |
Zhou said: I don't understand why people are questioning what happened with the real Miller, she is dead, the fake Elena has probably killed her and we even saw how she buried her. Wasn't she just burying the pink wig? |
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| I loved it haha kinda got overjoyed when I saw the Gekko state i missed them ^^ |
My Grandmother Always said.. He who walks through the path of heaven will rule over everything.. |
| Very interesting episode. A lot of mysteries got added to the show with this ep, and the one in the forefront of my mind is why this fake Elena has a memory of being held by Eureka. Interesting revelations on the horizon. I still don't care for how this show is supposed to fit in with Eureka Seven, but the last couple episodes have finally started to get me hooked. |
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| Ok what is this psychodelic crap that is going on? |
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UnknownFact said: Ok what is this psychodelic crap that is going on? Read the thread. |
| I'll have what they're having |
| It was OK to me. It had it's awesome moments, like the flashback. |
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| So wait...was Miller a real person or not? And just who the hell is Elena? And that was Eureka and a flashback to the real Earth...just what the hell is going on here... |
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