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Yvese said: InfiniteDestiny said: I think the answer is simple. Now here is the question at least me for me; lets say for the time being it is in fact Reiko; she died in 1996 when the deaths stopped halfway; is her death the reason they stopped, if so why her? what would it take this time for the deaths to stop; will it continue until the "select" person like Reiko dies? because we haven't heard anything of her being the person chosen not to exist if i remember so for all we know she was just a normal student in the class which leaves the question open. If Reiko is the 'another', then they have to kill her. It's already been said that making someone 'not exist' no longer works so the only option left is to kill the 'another'. Question is how will they find out it's her? I'm sure Sakakibara will be hesitant so I'm eager to see how it all plays out. Maybe Sakakibara will ask his grandpa about reiko? /shrug Also, someone said earlier that in ep1 they showed the locations of people that have died so far ( Which means that future death locations are also in it which I find interesting ). In ep1, a large mansion is shown ( The same mansion in the ep 9 preview! ) There is a gap in that answer though, that may answer how they stop it now, but how did they stop it back then? did they kill the "another" back then also, but then how does Reiko dying (however she may have) link to it. What decides who becomes the next "another", also what year did Sakakibara's mom go to that school? |
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the_trainman said: They went to the shrine that year right?I think the curse stops at the end of schoolyear (and then resets for the next schoolyear). It can be stopped prematurely by doing something that guy did, only what? Going by the beginning of episode 1, there is a POV scene of a car driving on the road, and also the shrine is shown. This leads me to believe that they have to take the 'another' to the shrine and do something that lets them pass on and/or break the curse. Of course, it could just mean that someone dies while driving at night ( It's all at the start of ep 1 so don't blame me for spoilers ) |
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| Reiko =/= Mikami. They have different seiyuus and key differences in appearance. Either the MAL profile is wrong or it's spoiling something that hasn't been revealed yet. |
Hakuromatsu said: They are the same person. It's explained at ep 2 or 3 I believe.Reiko =/= Mikami. They have different seiyuus and key differences in appearance. Either the MAL profile is wrong or it's spoiling something that hasn't been revealed yet. |
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Hakuromatsu said: Reiko =/= Mikami. They have different seiyuus and key differences in appearance. Either the MAL profile is wrong or it's spoiling something that hasn't been revealed yet. I think the MAL profile is wrong, because while i see they have them listed as two different characters; it really does seem they are the same, or perhaps its part of the phenomenon caused by being the "another" which is highly likely that Reiko is. Yvese said: the_trainman said: They went to the shrine that year right?I think the curse stops at the end of schoolyear (and then resets for the next schoolyear). It can be stopped prematurely by doing something that guy did, only what? Going by the beginning of episode 1, there is a POV scene of a car driving on the road, and also the shrine is shown. This leads me to believe that they have to take the 'another' to the shrine and do something that lets them pass on and/or break the curse. Of course, it could just mean that someone dies while driving at night ( It's all at the start of ep 1 so don't blame me for spoilers ) Still leaves the past untouched though, if they did indeed go to the shrine with the past another, why did Reiko become the next another? Also it seems there needs to be conditions as the guy in the Library said it didn't work in later years. |
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Yvese said: Hakuromatsu said: They are the same person. It's explained at ep 2 or 3 I believe.Reiko =/= Mikami. They have different seiyuus and key differences in appearance. Either the MAL profile is wrong or it's spoiling something that hasn't been revealed yet. I'd like to know exactly when that was explained. I just skimmed those episodes (not thoroughly) and didn't find anything. InfiniteDestiny said: I think the MAL profile is wrong, because while i see they have them listed as two different characters; it really does seem they are the same, or perhaps its part of the phenomenon caused by being the "another" which is highly likely that Reiko is. I deliberately haven't read the MAL profile, but I really, really hope that's not a spoiler. People have been really careless with Another spoilers, and I'd hate to have that rub off on me. (Sorry if that comes off as arrogant; I'm just being careful here.) |
InfiniteDestiny said: Now here is the question at least me for me; lets say for the time being it is in fact Reiko; she died in 1996 when the deaths stopped halfway; is her death the reason they stopped, if so why her? what would it take this time for the deaths to stop; will it continue until the "select" person like Reiko dies? because we haven't heard anything of her being the person chosen not to exist if i remember so for all we know she was just a normal student in the class which leaves the question open. If i recall correctly they stopped the deaths halfway 15 years ago, so its like in 1983. |
“I’m glad you stopped me. I was really worried that you really wish that you never met me. I’m glad that I met you. I had a wonderful life. No matter what may await me, please don’t regret meeting me.” - Nagisa Furukawa |
Hakuromatsu said: Yvese said: Hakuromatsu said: They are the same person. It's explained at ep 2 or 3 I believe.Reiko =/= Mikami. They have different seiyuus and key differences in appearance. Either the MAL profile is wrong or it's spoiling something that hasn't been revealed yet. I'd like to know exactly when that was explained. I just skimmed those episodes (not thoroughly) and didn't find anything. InfiniteDestiny said: I think the MAL profile is wrong, because while i see they have them listed as two different characters; it really does seem they are the same, or perhaps its part of the phenomenon caused by being the "another" which is highly likely that Reiko is. I deliberately haven't read the MAL profile, but I really, really hope that's not a spoiler. People have been really careless with Another spoilers, and I'd hate to have that rub off on me. (Sorry if that comes off as arrogant; I'm just being careful here.) No No i simply meant she is listed as two characters, i didn't read anything either, but if you click to see the full list of characters there are two, Reiko Mikami and just Mikami |
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balot55 said: InfiniteDestiny said: Now here is the question at least me for me; lets say for the time being it is in fact Reiko; she died in 1996 when the deaths stopped halfway; is her death the reason they stopped, if so why her? what would it take this time for the deaths to stop; will it continue until the "select" person like Reiko dies? because we haven't heard anything of her being the person chosen not to exist if i remember so for all we know she was just a normal student in the class which leaves the question open. If i recall correctly they stopped the deaths halfway 15 years ago, so its like in 1983. If that's right, then its more likely connected to the mom then Reiko since if i remember Sakakibara was born in 1983 and the mom died shortly after which means the whole thing with Reiko theoretically dying in 1996... dang while its "easy" enough to peg her as the "another" now, the past is hard to clear up. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: No No i simply meant she is listed as two characters, i didn't read anything either, but if you click to see the full list of characters there are two, Reiko Mikami and just Mikami Sorry, I was talking more about the situation in general than your post ^_^ |
Hakuromatsu said: InfiniteDestiny said: No No i simply meant she is listed as two characters, i didn't read anything either, but if you click to see the full list of characters there are two, Reiko Mikami and just Mikami Sorry, I was talking more about the situation in general than your post ^_^ Np, i dnt like spoilers either; thats why all of this is just theory, we could be completely wrong for all we know :P. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: If that's right, then its more likely connected to the mom then Reiko since if i remember Sakakibara was born in 1983 and the mom died shortly after which means the whole thing with Reiko theoretically dying in 1996... dang while its "easy" enough to peg her as the "another" now, the past is hard to clear up. The mom was also in class 3 right? Which year? |
| “I’m glad you stopped me. I was really worried that you really wish that you never met me. I’m glad that I met you. I had a wonderful life. No matter what may await me, please don’t regret meeting me.” - Nagisa Furukawa |
balot55 said: InfiniteDestiny said: If that's right, then its more likely connected to the mom then Reiko since if i remember Sakakibara was born in 1983 and the mom died shortly after which means the whole thing with Reiko theoretically dying in 1996... dang while its "easy" enough to peg her as the "another" now, the past is hard to clear up. The mom was also in class 3 right? Which year? I wanna say 1972 since that date sounds familiar to me; but I'm not sure... 15-25-26 years is a 10 year span that should could have been in class 3; they DO say it however, i just don't remember, its the episode when they show the class photos and he points her out. I think however it was when it all started; so perhaps the year with Misaki? since the guy seemed to be the homeroom teacher (Libarian) and knew her |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Yea she was in the class where Misaki died. Essentially the class that started it all.balot55 said: InfiniteDestiny said: If that's right, then its more likely connected to the mom then Reiko since if i remember Sakakibara was born in 1983 and the mom died shortly after which means the whole thing with Reiko theoretically dying in 1996... dang while its "easy" enough to peg her as the "another" now, the past is hard to clear up. The mom was also in class 3 right? Which year? I wanna say 1972 since that date sounds familiar to me; but I'm not sure... 15-25-26 years is a 10 year span that should could have been in class 3; they DO say it however, i just don't remember, its the episode when they show the class photos and he points her out. I think however it was when it all started; so perhaps the year with Misaki? since the guy seemed to be the homeroom teacher (Libarian) and knew her |
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| the early car scene epic! lol |
Yvese said: InfiniteDestiny said: Yea she was in the class where Misaki died. Essentially the class that started it all.balot55 said: InfiniteDestiny said: If that's right, then its more likely connected to the mom then Reiko since if i remember Sakakibara was born in 1983 and the mom died shortly after which means the whole thing with Reiko theoretically dying in 1996... dang while its "easy" enough to peg her as the "another" now, the past is hard to clear up. The mom was also in class 3 right? Which year? I wanna say 1972 since that date sounds familiar to me; but I'm not sure... 15-25-26 years is a 10 year span that should could have been in class 3; they DO say it however, i just don't remember, its the episode when they show the class photos and he points her out. I think however it was when it all started; so perhaps the year with Misaki? since the guy seemed to be the homeroom teacher (Libarian) and knew her So the mom was part of the class who started it all by playing make believe. If we are correct, the mom died in 1983 after Sakakibara was born. Reiko and that guy was part of class 3 who stoped the calamity halfway in 1983. Then assuming the another one is indeed Reiko, in which we assume died halfway through the year 1996 in which sakakibara visited the town allegedly for Reiko's funeral and meets Akazawa but his memory is messed up by the memory alteration. |
| “I’m glad you stopped me. I was really worried that you really wish that you never met me. I’m glad that I met you. I had a wonderful life. No matter what may await me, please don’t regret meeting me.” - Nagisa Furukawa |
| Lmao it wouldn't be an episode of another if it didn't end in tragedy :P you could say that he...*puts on sunglasses* got motorboated...yeah! |
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| Assuming all theories are correct; i wonder how one becomes a "another", because the fate of the mom was very ambiguous; if all that is needed is a past connection to the class is it possible she became a "another" at one point or the other? |
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| I liked this episode, but perhaps not as much as the others. It didn't really live up to the horror genre, in my opinion, until the last 3 or so minutes of the episode. Although I did also like the car scene in the beginning where the group was skeptical about getting out of their town safely. It wasn't -as- good as the rest on the series imo but it was still really good. I posted a whole review of this episode on my blog ^.^ |
| I'm pretty much just happy with the fact that they didn't shove the fan service down your throat like they would do in almost any other anime. It was there, but, it wasn't force feed to you whether you wanted it or not. On a totally more serious and relevant note, damn that episode was creepy. The music is just so persuasive in setting the mood for you when something interesting happens. Love it. And the preview looked very, very interesting. Looking forward to the next! |
Anyone else notice this girl from the preview: I think that's Reiko from 15 years ago. Matsunaga did say in this ep that she was a shrimp back then. If that's the case, then next ep is most definitely a flashback of 15 years ago. That means that in the preview where that guy gets struck by lightning is during their summer trip. |
YveseFeb 28, 2012 8:41 PM
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| Mother of god. I think I've never seen this many death flag being trigered under 10 seconds... going to get that ball was the most certain form of suicide my eyes have witnessed for a long time. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Assuming all theories are correct; i wonder how one becomes a "another", because the fate of the mom was very ambiguous; if all that is needed is a past connection to the class is it possible she became a "another" at one point or the other? Well...I think that someone resurrected must belong to the class. Meaning, even before he/she died, he/she was a part of the class, so it's just a matter of "returning" to the class after death. Anyway, I'm still thinking of the missing chairs in third class. I think teachers' chairs are included in the overall numbering...I mean, assistant teachers sit in the back usually, and general teachers sit in front, right? If when they think of "being short one chair" after opening ceremony means that including teachers' chairs they are missing one overall, then teachers aren't an exception of becoming the "resurrected dead person." So far, the dead ones are students, but that's so far as what Chibiki-san has recorded. But the UNRECORDED might say otherwise. Andddd as for the preview, casette tapes ftw. I miss those times wherein you have to turn it side a to side b. Anyway...there's this sable-hooded figure in the OP. I'm wondering if it's a doll or someone entirely helpful in this story. I'd noticed it in previous epidodes, but I don't know if it's still there. Could there be someone hiding in it? What for? And rather than Yukari...hmmm could it be the other girl they went to the beach with?? Or if it's really Yukari...another dream for Kouichi? So they go to the class trip next ep... =.= I must rewatch, I guess... |
 "Belief is the death of intelligence." ~Robert Anton Wilson~ |
| Well I am done with my GIFs in Mei and Another clubs. I have 2 to share. First of all, Mei's hand rape:  looks like it from the GIF. The scene and only one that I jumped from my chair,  now that is fucking creepy as shit smells. But really dat hand rape. Damn octopus! At least it got eaten. |
Yvese said: Anyone else notice this girl from the preview: I think that's Reiko from 15 years ago. Matsunaga did say in this ep that she was a shrimp back then. If that's the case, then next ep is most definitely a flashback of 15 years ago. That means that in the preview where that guy gets struck by lightning is during their summer trip. I did see her but didn't thought much about it, I was thinking that it might be a girl from the same class but your theory makes more sense. |
| That girl is a current student; her name is 小椋 (sorry, don't have a translation of that). |
| Today, the breather episode. Next week, shit hits the fan. Really, next week's episode is really gonna be the best so far! :D Misaki is cute too. |
| Akazawa has quite a nice rack. Considering the revelations so far, the next episode should be even more interesting. |
| Reading last episodes and this episodes posts, I'm adding to my predictions. I still keep my 15 years ago dead one theory, maybe, but since Reiko WAS in class 3, and if you assume she died then, her dying there would make her the dead one (from class 3). Also that frosted glass is totally foreshadowing. |
Yumekichi11 said: Well I am done with my GIFs in Mei and Another clubs. I have 2 to share. First of all, Mei's hand rape: looks like it from the GIF. The scene and only one that I jumped from my chair, now that is fucking creepy as shit smells. But really dat hand rape. Damn octopus! At least it got eaten. About the first gif... her face in that scene is priceless.... Pleas make that gif... |
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Yumekichi11 said: Well I am done with my GIFs in Mei and Another clubs. I have 2 to share. First of all, Mei's hand rape: looks like it from the GIF. The scene and only one that I jumped from my chair, now that is fucking creepy as shit smells. But really dat hand rape. Damn octopus! At least it got eaten. O_O is that Yukari in the 2nd gif? The thought kinda scared me. |
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| damn yea i was so scared when the truck passed close to them at the beginning and the final scene ?! wow |
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| The episode wasn't boring at all. But... The end has a lot of blood. |
| ...and I still think there is no supernatural. Also, what do you think is the reason for the widespread amnesia? It's not like they don't remember only curse-related things so I'm pretty sure it's not supernatural in origin. So what is it? A virus? Bacteria? Something in the water? At the end it will turn out the entire town is made out of loons separated from the rest of the world? ? |
ClementIV said: Yvese said: Anyone else notice this girl from the preview: I think that's Reiko from 15 years ago. Matsunaga did say in this ep that she was a shrimp back then. If that's the case, then next ep is most definitely a flashback of 15 years ago. That means that in the preview where that guy gets struck by lightning is during their summer trip. I did see her but didn't thought much about it, I was thinking that it might be a girl from the same class but your theory makes more sense. she's one of the cutest girl in class who deserves more attention!! she sometimes seen hanging out with akizawa and the unimportant side character guy who just died this week... i hope they will show the super smokin' hot sexy yuri couple soon... |
nathanr said: A virus? I had a virus once that made me trip headfirst and then made my umbrella fall exactly parallel to my staircase and impale me in the neck. Got over it with some tylenol and a couple days' rest, though. |
nathanr said: ...and I still think there is no supernatural. Also, what do you think is the reason for the widespread amnesia? It's not like they don't remember only curse-related things so I'm pretty sure it's not supernatural in origin. So what is it? A virus? Bacteria? Something in the water? At the end it will turn out the entire town is made out of loons separated from the rest of the world? ? Read the novel. End of argument. |
nathanr said: Sorry but, if you've been paying attention to the show you'd know that everytime someone gets close to detailing the curse, someone dies ( Like how the wind just started blowing hard once Matsunada started talking about what he left in the class, or how the nurse died before she could reveal Misaki )...and I still think there is no supernatural. Also, what do you think is the reason for the widespread amnesia? It's not like they don't remember only curse-related things so I'm pretty sure it's not supernatural in origin. So what is it? A virus? Bacteria? Something in the water? At the end it will turn out the entire town is made out of loons separated from the rest of the world? ? That means it's supernatural no matter how you think of it. It's no coincidence people just up and die before they can get close to the truth. |
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| Interesting beach episode. I had a strong feeling someone would die in the end. It just felt all too peaceful. I suspect the dead one to be either Kouichi or Reiko, more likely Kouichi. Only reason I say this is because the deaths started escalating when he first transferred to the school. And does anyone else get the feeling that Akazawa and Kouichi are childhood friends? I mean, she is the only person to call him by his first name outside of his family. |
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| Good episode. 10/10, obviously. Just when everything was going so well... evisceration by motorboat occurred. Shit happens, I guess. Still, I'm excited to find out what the clue from next week might be. |
| Lemme smang it girl. |
Hakuromatsu said: nathanr said: A virus? I had a virus once that made me trip headfirst and then made my umbrella fall exactly parallel to my staircase and impale me in the neck. Got over it with some tylenol and a couple days' rest, though. I was talking about amnesia. Yvese said: nathanr said: Sorry but, if you've been paying attention to the show you'd know that everytime someone gets close to detailing the curse, someone dies ( Like how the wind just started blowing hard once Matsunada started talking about what he left in the class, or how the nurse died before she could reveal Misaki )...and I still think there is no supernatural. Also, what do you think is the reason for the widespread amnesia? It's not like they don't remember only curse-related things so I'm pretty sure it's not supernatural in origin. So what is it? A virus? Bacteria? Something in the water? At the end it will turn out the entire town is made out of loons separated from the rest of the world? ? That means it's supernatural no matter how you think of it. It's no coincidence people just up and die before they can get close to the truth. Dame da! Zen zen dame da! The killings can be very well explained by the human culprit who tries to do their best to make it appear to be a curse. Curse killing people who try to talk about "non-existent" person explanation makes no sense since if that was true all the main cast would long be dead. The elevator was probably sabotaged. The wind didn't blow when he actually told them about it a minute later. Besides, the "curse" should be smart enough to know that wind is not the best way to silence people. Thus, I call coincidence at the wind. The real mystery is why that extra drowned. We saw him run enthusiastically into the water. Then, after swimming far away he dived, the resurfaced, turned back and waved. Then he swum some more and drowned. What if someone, say, another diver, pulled him down from the water until he drowned? Well, it does seem a little unreal, but at this point it makes more sense then curse&magic. The main problem with this theory is that drowning a person usually takes more time then few seconds. Or did he drown? When he was run over by a boat, he had both his eyes and mouth opened. He could have been conscious. What if he didn't drown but was just paralyzed? Say....the diver injected him with something under the water. No-there could have been no diver at all. He might have eaten something prior to walling into the water(like, a medicine), or smelled something poisonous(poison in the towel anyone?) or get injected with something by someone while asleep. This theory would mean that the culprit, or one of the culprits, was on the beach with them. But then, the explanation can be much simpler then that. Everyone seems to be suffering from strong amnesia and he was ill before. What if because of all this he forgot to put away an electronic device, say, a cell-phone and got electrocuted? That would explain the paralysis and would mean he was still alive when he was killed by the boat. See? There are many possible explanations other then "it was the Golden witch Beatoriche!" Read the novel. End of argument. Well, if supernatural is how it really is then well..it's sorta disappointing. That entire "curse" thing is dumb. But, I'm not going to read the novel(due to lazy) and I'm not going to believe that it's the supernatural unless I'm shown direct evidence for it. So far, everything that happened could be explained by coincidence and human actions. Besides..if it is ghosts and curse..then why would the ghosts and curses, things unbound by the laws of space, kill people with the scientifically possible methods accessible to humans? |
nathanr said: It's a curse. Believe me, I've tried linking logic with all the deaths but keep this in mind:Hakuromatsu said: nathanr said: A virus? I had a virus once that made me trip headfirst and then made my umbrella fall exactly parallel to my staircase and impale me in the neck. Got over it with some tylenol and a couple days' rest, though. I was talking about amnesia. Yvese said: nathanr said: Sorry but, if you've been paying attention to the show you'd know that everytime someone gets close to detailing the curse, someone dies ( Like how the wind just started blowing hard once Matsunada started talking about what he left in the class, or how the nurse died before she could reveal Misaki )...and I still think there is no supernatural. Also, what do you think is the reason for the widespread amnesia? It's not like they don't remember only curse-related things so I'm pretty sure it's not supernatural in origin. So what is it? A virus? Bacteria? Something in the water? At the end it will turn out the entire town is made out of loons separated from the rest of the world? ? That means it's supernatural no matter how you think of it. It's no coincidence people just up and die before they can get close to the truth. Dame da! Zen zen dame da! The killings can be very well explained by the human culprit who tries to do their best to make it appear to be a curse. Curse killing people who try to talk about "non-existent" person explanation makes no sense since if that was true all the main cast would long be dead. The elevator was probably sabotaged. The wind didn't blow when he actually told them about it a minute later. Besides, the "curse" should be smart enough to know that wind is not the best way to silence people. Thus, I call coincidence at the wind. The real mystery is why that extra drowned. We saw him run enthusiastically into the water. Then, after swimming far away he dived, the resurfaced, turned back and waved. Then he swum some more and drowned. What if someone, say, another diver, pulled him down from the water until he drowned? Well, it does seem a little unreal, but at this point it makes more sense then curse&magic. The main problem with this theory is that drowning a person usually takes more time then few seconds. Or did he drown? When he was run over by a boat, he had both his eyes and mouth opened. He could have been conscious. What if he didn't drown but was just paralyzed? Say....the diver injected him with something under the water. No-there could have been no diver at all. He might have eaten something prior to walling into the water(like, a medicine), or smelled something poisonous(poison in the towel anyone?) or get injected with something by someone while asleep. This theory would mean that the culprit, or one of the culprits, was on the beach with them. But then, the explanation can be much simpler then that. Everyone seems to be suffering from strong amnesia and he was ill before. What if because of all this he forgot to put away an electronic device, say, a cell-phone and got electrocuted? That would explain the paralysis and would mean he was still alive when he was killed by the boat. See? There are many possible explanations other then "it was the Golden witch Beatoriche!" Read the novel. End of argument. Well, if supernatural is how it really is then well..it's sorta disappointing. That entire "curse" thing is dumb. But, I'm not going to read the novel(due to lazy) and I'm not going to believe that it's the supernatural unless I'm shown direct evidence for it. So far, everything that happened could be explained by coincidence and human actions. Besides..if it is ghosts and curse..then why would the ghosts and curses, things unbound by the laws of space, kill people with the scientifically possible methods accessible to humans? It's been happening for basically 26 years. If it wasn't supernatural and it was just some murderer, what could he/they possibly gain by killing people from ONE class for 26 years? It also doesn't explain how records and memories are altered; thus it's supernatural. |
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