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Feb 2, 2012 11:33 PM

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Meh, whatever.

Persona is more enjoyable so far.
Feb 2, 2012 11:41 PM

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hakati said:
sense a hint of jealousy

jealous of what? Persona 4 sold 4x more than GC.
Feb 2, 2012 11:47 PM

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Thread should be renamed to Persona vs GC fanboys/girls...

As for me: both stuff are horrible, but GC is still slightly better.
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Feb 2, 2012 11:49 PM
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Could care less what others think (writer of persona and other GC haters) I enjoy both anime series and won't stop watching either one. Don't know why everyone gets all butt hurt about these kind of things.
Feb 3, 2012 12:05 AM

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Lolwut? Really? o.o

GC is a lot better compared to Persona since the latter has some of the most horrible pacing issues you could ever see in an anime.

He's not even in the position to criticize GC anyway.
Feb 3, 2012 12:10 AM

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Why don't we just come to the conclusion that both are mediocre animes at best and have one giant group hug.
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Feb 3, 2012 12:17 AM

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Even after reading everyone's posts... I still don't get why there's so much hate on either side. I love both but I guess haters gonna hate.
Feb 3, 2012 12:52 AM

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thank god someone important in the anime industry point this out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you GOD!!!!

GC animation is so fuckin beautiful~ oh just look at GC's background art!!! COOL!!! the character design are attractive, the color, the art, everything is so PERFECT...

EXCEPT!! The story sucked! the Character's personality suck! cliche! annoying! one-dimensional! eww and lets don't talk about the dialogue, lol so stupid!!

it breaks my heart to see an anime with big budget production, which are potential to be epic, becomes a failure because an incompetent scriptwriter etc
Feb 3, 2012 12:58 AM

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Persona 4 is really bad, GC is utter shit
Feb 3, 2012 12:59 AM

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i can see why he criticizes it, as it's a bit of a mess; inconsistent from episode to episode - it is a show that has a ton of potential, but so far has not realized it - i actually thought about half the episodes were at least good and a couple of them great - the problem with guilty crown is in it's lack of consistency........
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Guilty Crown is so cliche, that I couldnt get past ep 5. Although trying tremendously to endure that bullcrap. Visuals were nice --that's correct yes.

No personalities whatsoever, stupid dialogues, MC seiyuu is one that I can't stand either.
Feb 3, 2012 1:01 AM

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StormViruz said:
DraconisMarch said:
Well Mr. Kumagaya, I have one thing to say to you.


THIS POST SIR IS WIN!!! LMAO
love this post! the office (original) is one of the best shows ever!
Feb 3, 2012 1:08 AM

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octal9 said:
i can see why he criticizes it, as it's a bit of a mess; inconsistent from episode to episode - it is a show that has a ton of potential, but so far has not realized it - i actually thought about half the episodes were at least good and a couple of them great - the problem with guilty crown is in it's lack of consistency........


This pretty much.
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Feb 3, 2012 1:12 AM

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Production I.G. was really wasted on Guilty Crown.
Feb 3, 2012 1:22 AM
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Lol. x'd
I more like Guilty Crown...
But Persona isn't that bad...
Feb 3, 2012 1:41 AM

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Well, everybody should have noticed that Guilty Crown is the biggest piece of shit that aired in the last few months..maybe even years.

And Persona is actually a pretty faithful adaption (at least in my opinion), something most studios can't seem to get right. You got to give him some respect for that, despite what you might think of the franchise itself.
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Feb 3, 2012 1:42 AM

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I'm now starting to realise that half the people who are hating on GC don't realise that, at the moment, Shu is currently a complete badass who's prepared to rape whatever gets in his way with 50+ voids at his disposal lol....
Feb 3, 2012 1:43 AM

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No way Persona is/as worse than GC.. you mad haters...

Altho its maybe true if you think like this.

GC = Garbage tier story/script
P4 = garbage tier animation/production value.

P4 anime script is the only thing that make me enjoying the anime, its faithful to the game while makes some change to make the storytelling more efficient and still entertaining, n this guy does write some of the better eps.. (even if you still think the story is bad, its not the anime fault.) the only thing that look bad in anime is animation quality/production value n this guy have nothing to do with it.
Feb 3, 2012 1:57 AM

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As much as l sort of "love" Persona 4. The script in Persona 4 is worst than Guilty Crown. Everything in P4 is so rushed that hard is to watch at times. However, GC is told slight better than Persona 4. Just slightly, since GC's story is sort of a mess.
MimikoFeb 3, 2012 3:02 AM
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I like how most people here have problems to actually spell properly. Shows what crowd GC attracts.
So much mad in this thread. People seems to have problems accepting this statement.
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Feb 3, 2012 2:07 AM

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Mimiko said:
As much as l sort of "love" Persona 4. The scrip in Persona 4 is worst than Guilty Crown. Everything in P4 is so rushed that hard to watch.
No way, I'm play the game.

Unless its about social link eps, I love their adjustment tho. They trying to make adjustment so its gonna fit to anime format, that its really.

GC's script is just mess, they trying too hard... man.. just write something like Infinite Stratos. simple. u want to make otaku-anime anyway.
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fertygo said:
Mimiko said:
As much as l sort of "love" Persona 4. The scrip in Persona 4 is worst than Guilty Crown. Everything in P4 is so rushed that hard to watch.
No way, I'm play the game.

Unless its about social link eps, I love their adjustment tho. They trying to make adjustment so its gonna fit to anime format, that its really.

GC's script is just mess, they trying too hard... man.. just write something like Infinite Stratos. simple. u want to make otaku-anime anyway.


This. You might want to read this, if you want to see just how bad the script of GC is:
http://re-jinx.me/2011/10/30/guilty-crown-is-horse-shit-and-heres-why/
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Feb 3, 2012 2:16 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
I like how most people here have problems to actually spell properly. Shows what crowd GC attracts.
My expectation about GC isn't that bothersome really, just your typical otaku anime. silly, full of trope, boobs and ass, sakuga porn. that its. Otaku anime always like that.

Instead I got that with the worst way possible, BS script, cliche everywhere (and the bad thing is u already expecting that) awkward dialogue, not working comedy, etc.

I feel the same way about Angel Beats.

Its not hard for me to enjoy stuff like IS and Strike Witches lol.
fertygoFeb 3, 2012 2:21 AM
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Outsider354 said:
Guilty Crown is horrible but Persona is even more horrible.
Guilty Crown at least have a good animation though.


You said my views perfectly! :D
Feb 3, 2012 2:18 AM

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100 percent right. Guilty crowns story is a piece of shit for breakfast with rat poison sprinkled on top. I do adore the art and music which is why I am begrudgingly finishing it.
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fertygo said:
Nidhoeggr said:
I like how most people here have problems to actually spell properly. Shows what crowd GC attracts.
My expectation about GC isn't that bothersome really, just your typical otaku anime. silly, full of trope, boobs and ass, sakuga porn. that its. Otaku anime always like that.

Instead I got that with the worst way possible, BS script, awkward dialogue, not working comedy, etc.

I feel the same way about Angel Beats.

Its not hard for me to enjoy stuff like IS and Strike Witches lol.


If it was intended to be only otaku pandering..the whole deal with the staff, the time slot and all the other stuff was to create an anime that was intended to be a cashcow franchise. But then the writing is even worse than Infinite Stratos (which had good visuals as well, just saying), Sacred Seven and some other of the worst series of the past few years together. The only people who are still able to enjoy this are people who must have disregarded ANY sense of character and story development, only to be dulled by the visuals.

And there are many of those int he current anime scene.

Look at them and their favourites. And the sad thing is, those people WILL buy shit like this and it'll be the reason why we don't get more anime like Chihayafuru, Hyouge Mono or Moyashimon. Instead, we only get more otaku pandering series, because these dulled masses have reached a point where they are unable to discern quality from crap. And that's what is really bugging me about GC. Here:

HadesXIII said:
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But Persona is horrible


Damn straight, he says that GC is bad? He should read his own shitty ass script


Only style over substance in his favourites (Well, except Hunter X Hunter). Bleach, Fairy Tail, AB, etc. THIS is the future of anime. And that's sad. Because apparently a lot of people find this stuff to be really good.
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Feb 3, 2012 2:56 AM

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both is bad, so no point arguing
Feb 3, 2012 3:16 AM

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I like both series but neither one of them are really qualified to criticize the other given that both of they each have flaws.
Feb 3, 2012 3:31 AM

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Both are extremely flawed, he should really shut up on this matter.
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Hahaha oh god are you fucking serious?

That's gotta be the joke of the decade.

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Feb 3, 2012 4:08 AM

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Kumagaya Jun really didn't have to go that far seeing that persona is a game adaptation which means 80% of the script is based off the game. and Guilty crown is an original work, yes i admit some eps where cliched. but if he thinks he can do better why not go and write an original script.
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Hahaha oh god are you fucking serious?

That's gotta be the joke of the decade.
???

He's episode script writer, its not even he criticizing the storyline, its the script. He doing no wrong. And I'm very confident to said the episode that he working in P4 anime is better than any GC episode.
Nidhoeggr said:
fertygo said:
Nidhoeggr said:
I like how most people here have problems to actually spell properly. Shows what crowd GC attracts.
My expectation about GC isn't that bothersome really, just your typical otaku anime. silly, full of trope, boobs and ass, sakuga porn. that its. Otaku anime always like that.

Instead I got that with the worst way possible, BS script, awkward dialogue, not working comedy, etc.

I feel the same way about Angel Beats.

Its not hard for me to enjoy stuff like IS and Strike Witches lol.


If it was intended to be only otaku pandering..the whole deal with the staff, the time slot and all the other stuff was to create an anime that was intended to be a cashcow franchise. But then the writing is even worse than Infinite Stratos (which had good visuals as well, just saying), Sacred Seven and some other of the worst series of the past few years together. The only people who are still able to enjoy this are people who must have disregarded ANY sense of character and story development, only to be dulled by the visuals.

And there are many of those int he current anime scene.

Look at them and their favourites. And the sad thing is, those people WILL buy shit like this and it'll be the reason why we don't get more anime like Chihayafuru, Hyouge Mono or Moyashimon. Instead, we only get more otaku pandering series, because these dulled masses have reached a point where they are unable to discern quality from crap. And that's what is really bugging me about GC. Here:

HadesXIII said:
Project_MkUltra said:
But Persona is horrible


Damn straight, he says that GC is bad? He should read his own shitty ass script


Only style over substance in his favourites (Well, except Hunter X Hunter). Bleach, Fairy Tail, AB, etc. THIS is the future of anime. And that's sad. Because apparently a lot of people find this stuff to be really good.
Great post sir.

I have no problem with otaku anime myself, infact I'm realize now I'm more enjoying these kind of anime for watching in regular basis.

Otaku anime is like hollywood flick, full of trope, repeated stories, etc. I have no problem with "incredibly stupid" stories like Infitie Stratos or Transformers, but GC even more than that, the stories isn't even make sense, keep spining around, the dialogue is like gibberish, its just make your stomach feel wrong.

Seriously its just hard to believe you can screw script for anime like GC.
Feb 3, 2012 5:17 AM

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Persona 4 wins the award of being my 10th series to drop. Ever. And the first these past two years. I fail to see what is good about it. Animation it horrible, pacing is disjointed at best, the main character knows of only a few more than ten words, and all of the rest of the characters act like melodramatic sissys.

Guilty Crowns main flaw is Shu. Remove him and it would at least be somewhat entertaining. No one thing would fix P4.
And I don't care if P4 is a faithful game adaptation. You can't follow a game to the dime and expect it to work as an anime. The pacing is atrocious because of this...among other things.
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TreF said:
At least GC animators are getting payed.

And lol at this one nazi implying there's something wrong with enjoying a show for its visual quality or style-over-substance approach.

Your head is buried deep inside your anal column, sir.


So, having standards is making me a Nazi? Great to hear that, I'm sure that pleases my grandfather who was fleeing westwards because he was the only on his village who openly stood against the regime. Thank you very much for your profound and deep understanding of European history. And now, please fuck off.

Also, i'm not saying that you can't enjoy that anime for what it's worth, but if you seriously think it has any merit beyong being flashy (like it seems to be the case for th most GC watchers) than we have a serious poblem. The consumer as a mindless zombie is not the ideal world I'd like to live in.

Killuan said:
the main character knows of only a few more than ten words


Geez, I wonder why....
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Feb 3, 2012 5:23 AM

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GC just the shittiest crapiest anime of the century!
FUCK THAT!
Feb 3, 2012 5:26 AM

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IZUMI64 said:
GC just the shittiest crapiest anime of the century!
FUCK THAT!


Well, don't be so mean! Don't you hear the kiddies? We shouldn't have standards and expect logic to apply to a story that was advertized as a realistic and revolutionary setting! After all, only shiny lights and clicheed characters with the personality of sex toys are important!
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No. Guilty Crown's main problem isn't only Shu, but just about every god damn characters (except Segai). Plus, as I said earlier, the fucking plot is all over the place and it's not aiming anywhere.

The P4 adaptation is working perfectly, although the pace is strange since it has a lot of timeskips. And the animation is pretty bad.
Feb 3, 2012 5:44 AM

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Solkiskey said:

The P4 adaptation is working perfectly, although the pace is strange since it has a lot of timeskips. And the animation is pretty bad.

The animation screams quality. What the fuck are you talking about?
Feb 3, 2012 5:50 AM

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I am as confused as you are Mr.Kumagaya


this.

japanese otakus are that stupid. they just need their sexy chicks and that's it
Japan can't learn to create good anime titles again cause of this kind of market trends.
Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch.
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IllegalCyrus said:
Solkiskey said:

The P4 adaptation is working perfectly, although the pace is strange since it has a lot of timeskips. And the animation is pretty bad.

The animation screams quality. What the fuck are you talking about?
you mean QUALITY ? come on, P4 adaptation animation quality is garbage, even for the fan like me lol
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Gee~ it sure is a drama season around here. It's the best sales tactic anyone has at the moment.

I agree that GC sucks...besides the animation. OST is just bland to me.

P4 is so bad. Really really bad. It's so bad it's good to me though. Would I ever buy it on DVD? Hell no.

I would not buy either of these shit series.
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Persona 4 wins the award of being my 10th series to drop. Ever. And the first these past two years. I fail to see what is good about it. Animation it horrible, pacing is disjointed at best, the main character knows of only a few more than ten words, and all of the rest of the characters act like melodramatic sissys.

Guilty Crowns main flaw is Shu. Remove him and it would at least be somewhat entertaining. No one thing would fix P4.
And I don't care if P4 is a faithful game adaptation. You can't follow a game to the dime and expect it to work as an anime. The pacing is atrocious because of this...among other things.


Oh I sometimes wish MAL would have a "Like" button too.
Feb 3, 2012 6:09 AM

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Really, he shouldn't complain about it. It's worthless. He should just prove that he is better. Guilty crown for me is better than Persona 4 . True that some of GC episodes and scenario is really bad, but Persona 4 is not better either, good point of Persona 4 is it is fun to watch, but definitely not the scenario . Btw, GC has improved a lot in last few episodes.
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Ensue the rivalry between the two terrible anime
Feb 3, 2012 6:26 AM

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He's right, but his scrips are just as bad so he has no right to complain.
At least GC has beautiful art and animation, P4 looks like complete shit. Can't believe it sold 40k+ copies.
Feb 3, 2012 6:42 AM

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Mr. Kumagaya your words wounded souls of innocent children, why are you so cruel?




Feb 3, 2012 6:45 AM
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Pot calling the kettle black. Both Persona 4 and GC's scripts were terrible. I mean, Persona 4 is an ADAPTATION, at least try to adapt the game such that it is bearable, not cheesy.
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shadowtsunami said:
HadesXIII said:
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But Persona is horrible


Damn straight, he says that GC is bad? He should read his own shitty ass script


You must have not even played the Persona 4 game, because the script has little to no changes from the actually game itself. So it isn't the script in the anime. What's the problem is the crappy animation, and really choppy pacing. But as a game adaption it excels where others have failed.


The script is bad, blame the source. Yep, because Persona 4 is not an adaptation, but a carbon copy of the game. Nice blame pushing there.
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Tiago97 said:
Nidhoeggr said:
IllegalCyrus said:
Solkiskey said:

The P4 adaptation is working perfectly, although the pace is strange since it has a lot of timeskips. And the animation is pretty bad.

The animation screams quality. What the fuck are you talking about?


I love how you ignore the fact that we are talking about the SCRIPT and not the animation budget. Are you too dumb to read? Oh well, GC fans...

Let me ask you this: are you too dumb to read?
I love how you ignore the fact that Cyrus was talking about the animation and never actually mentioned the story up until you did, in reply to his post.


Goddamn, I quoted the wrong person. Yeah, that was idiotic - I shouldn't multitask.
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Off-topic/insulting posts deleted. Let's keep this train on the tracks as much as possible, shall we?
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