"My fire is unlike those unfulfilled and incomplete combustions you see everywhere. It may be for a moment, but my fire roars up so bright and hot, it's almost blinding. And then, all that remains is pure white ash. There are no embers left.....just pure white ash."- Yabuki Joe
"You see themes of hope and survival in Yamato but compared to a Harlock that touches on things like freedom, rebellion and fighting against oppression and corruption, more character driven"
Well said. Definitely seems to be the case when you watch GE999, Harlock, or Queen Millennia. They are primarily character-driven shows. GE999 grapples with the questions of what does it mean to be human, and is our humanity worth preserving...increasingly important questions with the advent of AI and the transhumanistic movement. Queen Millennia grapples with the same questions but from a different perspective I think.
"Guess it can’t really be counted as part of the Leijiverse if that’s true huh."
It would appear so. Going back to the Star Wars example, it's my opinion (and many others) that when Lucas directed his prequel trilogy, it wasn't as good as the original trilogy. Lucas was instrumental for the big ideas and creation, but the execution wasn't great. I would argue the same for Leijiverse stuff. Personally, I think Leiji had great ideas, but if you watch some of his spin-off stuff, it's not as good or well implemented. Probably not enough people to reign him in lol. I wish he cared more about a cohesive lore rather than the "toki no wa" argument of just doing parallel universes (license for being lazy, if I take the cynical read lol).
Apparently, Leiji is listed as staff on it, but I don't think it's all him like how the original trilogy of Star Wars isn't all George Lucas. I think there were some crossovers of Yamato and Captain Harlock, but I don't consider Yamato to be in the Leijiverse imho. The stylistic differences suggest that to me. Harlock, GE999, Queen Millenia, etc. have a sort of fable / humanistic tone to them that's nuanced vs. Yamato. I'd have to watch it all again to give you specifics, but that was my sense of it. You probably disagree.
Yamato is one of the better retro anime. I haven't watched Yamato 3 since the subs are supposedly spotty, and it isn't the same fansub (I think) group that did Yamato 1 and 2. In parallel, the Yamato 1 reboot is great, but the 2nd season of the reboot isn't as great...maybe due to the director change?
Kurisu is definitely top-tier. :D
The anime had me thinking about it for weeks after, so I get it. Much like Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
Personally, I thought Steins;gate 0 was not necessary since the original was great by itself. But it was fine for what it was. The Kagari arc was weird. She was sort of a red herring too--I thought she was related to Kurisu, but I don't think she had any real connection to Kurisu, if I recall.
It's good, but I guess after catching up with LNs, it made me realize how much they condensed down. It's still good though. If I could give it a 8.5, I would.
A little slow, but I know what's coming up after catching up with the Light Novels. It seems to mostly be following what's in the LNs, albeit at a faster pace. But I can't really complain since I'm enjoying it for what it is.
"Man I don’t care what anyone says, the Ide is just a dick ain’t it? A malevolent god like entity that likes to manipulate people for entertainment, puts them in certain situations to see what happens"
Hah, my thoughts exactly. When you brought up how Evangelion is inspired by Ideon, because I was told the same thing, in the back of my mind I thought that's not a good thing. The director, Yoshiyuki Tomino, often gets the funny but apt moniker "kill 'em all" Tomino for good reason. The last anime I watched from him where the destruction and chaos was almost to that level was Victory Gundam. Ideon takes the cake though.
Remind me again, Ashura was the little girl (blonde?)? It was that scene where her head and upper body gets blown off. If that was the moment you're referring to, then yes, I was like "holy shit!" lol
For sure, Ideon as a whole was an experience lol. Another friend on here loves Ideon. Personally, I prefer Tomino's Mobile Suit Gundam, since it's more grounded. Ideon was an interesting experiment though that I won't forget either. Especially since it was my 1000th completed entry on my list.
Yeah, they did the restoration work. I'm still getting slight allergies, but it's not horrible allergies like I had in past cases where I want to scratch my eyes out. I'm still deciding if it's worth the trouble to move out or not or just deal with it.
I see. I figured the pfp update was your homage to the man. Maybe I will do the same for a while.
Yeah, Ideon is an interesting anime. Maybe ahead of its time in terms of concepts/themes. I do think the end of the TV series is a bit rushed. The sequel movie kicks it into overdrive. It's a good example of "sh*t rolling down hill" in an interesting and somewhat shocking way. I've been watching anime for a good while before Ideon: Be invoked, and I was still shocked by some stuff that happens lol. I can see why Ideon serves as an inspiration for Evangelion, which would go on to inspire Rahxephon. Personally, I prefer Ideon and Rahxephon over Eva.
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Well said. Definitely seems to be the case when you watch GE999, Harlock, or Queen Millennia. They are primarily character-driven shows. GE999 grapples with the questions of what does it mean to be human, and is our humanity worth preserving...increasingly important questions with the advent of AI and the transhumanistic movement. Queen Millennia grapples with the same questions but from a different perspective I think.
"Guess it can’t really be counted as part of the Leijiverse if that’s true huh."
It would appear so. Going back to the Star Wars example, it's my opinion (and many others) that when Lucas directed his prequel trilogy, it wasn't as good as the original trilogy. Lucas was instrumental for the big ideas and creation, but the execution wasn't great. I would argue the same for Leijiverse stuff. Personally, I think Leiji had great ideas, but if you watch some of his spin-off stuff, it's not as good or well implemented. Probably not enough people to reign him in lol. I wish he cared more about a cohesive lore rather than the "toki no wa" argument of just doing parallel universes (license for being lazy, if I take the cynical read lol).
Yamato is one of the better retro anime. I haven't watched Yamato 3 since the subs are supposedly spotty, and it isn't the same fansub (I think) group that did Yamato 1 and 2. In parallel, the Yamato 1 reboot is great, but the 2nd season of the reboot isn't as great...maybe due to the director change?
Very much appreciated.
Yes! LOGH is worth the watch. Watch the two movies first and then pick up at episode 3 of the 110 episode OVA and go from there.
1st movie: https://myanimelist.net/anime/3014/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu__Waga_Yuku_wa_Hoshi_no_Taikai
2nd Movie: https://myanimelist.net/anime/3016/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu__Arata_naru_Tatakai_no_Overture
The anime had me thinking about it for weeks after, so I get it. Much like Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
Personally, I thought Steins;gate 0 was not necessary since the original was great by itself. But it was fine for what it was. The Kagari arc was weird. She was sort of a red herring too--I thought she was related to Kurisu, but I don't think she had any real connection to Kurisu, if I recall.
I would definitely check out the sequel movie to wrap it up, if you haven't planned so already.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/11577/Steins_Gate_Movie__Fuka_Ryouiki_no_D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu
As for Steins;gate 0, I had mixed feelings with that one, but it was pretty good. Not as good as the original series though.
Hah, my thoughts exactly. When you brought up how Evangelion is inspired by Ideon, because I was told the same thing, in the back of my mind I thought that's not a good thing. The director, Yoshiyuki Tomino, often gets the funny but apt moniker "kill 'em all" Tomino for good reason. The last anime I watched from him where the destruction and chaos was almost to that level was Victory Gundam. Ideon takes the cake though.
For sure, Ideon as a whole was an experience lol. Another friend on here loves Ideon. Personally, I prefer Tomino's Mobile Suit Gundam, since it's more grounded. Ideon was an interesting experiment though that I won't forget either. Especially since it was my 1000th completed entry on my list.
I see. I figured the pfp update was your homage to the man. Maybe I will do the same for a while.
Yeah, Ideon is an interesting anime. Maybe ahead of its time in terms of concepts/themes. I do think the end of the TV series is a bit rushed. The sequel movie kicks it into overdrive. It's a good example of "sh*t rolling down hill" in an interesting and somewhat shocking way. I've been watching anime for a good while before Ideon: Be invoked, and I was still shocked by some stuff that happens lol. I can see why Ideon serves as an inspiration for Evangelion, which would go on to inspire Rahxephon. Personally, I prefer Ideon and Rahxephon over Eva.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-02-19/legendary-manga-creator-leiji-matsumoto-passes-away-at-85/.195093
Ideon, eh? You're in for a wild ride. Especially the sequel movie...*phew*