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Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for Oct 15 - 21

by dtshyk
Oct 23, 2012 1:16 AM | 88 Comments
Here are the weekly Blu-ray and CD rankings for October 15th - 21st.

Blu-ray
*1, 6,018 6,018 Yuru Yuri ♪♪ vol.2
*2, 4,260 4,260 Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita vol.2
*3, 4,162 4,162 Saki: Achiga-hen - Episode of Side-A vol.5
*4, 1,730 1,730 Arata naru Sekai Blu-ray Box Limited Edition
*5, 1,587 1,587 Sakamichi no Apollon vol.4
*6, 1,008 1,008 Mazinger Movies 1973 - 1976
*7, *,696 4,070 Five Star Stories Blu-ray Box
*8, *,356 *,356 Zetman vol.5
*9, *,302 *,302 Natsuyuki Rendezvous vol.1
10, *,300 1,852 Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu: Finale vol.2 Limited Edition

DVD
*1, 1,853 *,**1,853 Futari wa Precure Splash Star DVD Box vol.2 Limited Edition
*2, 1,143 *,**1,143 Yuru Yuri ♪♪ vol.2
*3, *,849 *,***,849 Cardfight!! Vanguard vol.15
*4, *,757 *,***,757 Cardfight!! Vanguard vol.16
*5, *,723 *,***,723 Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita vol.2
*6, *,623 1,163,331 Tonari no Totoro
*7, *,524 *,***,524 Cardfight!! Vanguard: Asia Circuit-hen vol.3
*8, *,459 *,***,459 Sakamichi no Apollon vol.4
*9, *,450 *,***,450 Peeping Life The Perfect Explosion
10, *,373 *,***,373 Saki: Achiga-hen - Episode of Side-A vol.5
11, *,296 *,490,245 Majo no Takkyuubin
12, *,253 *,*58,690 Kokurikozaka kara Standard Edition

Single CD
*4, *,*22,148 *,*22,148 Transformers Prime "Discord"
*9, *,*12,998 *,*51,904 Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 1: Hajimari no Monogatari "Luminous"
11, *,**9,328 *,**9,328 Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun "Q&A Recital"
16, *,**4,516 *,**4,516 Code:Breaker "Shiroi Karasu"
23, *,**2,935 *,**2,935 Busou Shinki "Taiyo no Sign"
24, *,**2,890 *,**2,890 Busou Shinki "Install x Dream"
25, *,**2,873 *,**2,873 Hiiro no Kakera 2nd Season "Takanaru"
36, *,**1,949 *,**1,949 Jormungand: Perfect Order "Under/Shaft"
46, *,**1,487 *,**8,456 Btooom! "No pain, No game"

Source: Oricon Youtaiju

20 of 88 Comments Recent Comments

SAOxAce said:
I am new to this selling and all, but is there a website to check the total sells of Sword Art Online?

What Yvese said. In a bit more detail:
Sales are reported on a weekly basis. The period covers all items sold between Monday and Sunday, inclusive, Japanese Standard Time.

Preliminary sales for that period are reported the following Tuesday. This gives us (at minimum) the Top 30 DVDs in the Animation (includes non-Japanese animation) category + Top 10 (min) to 20 (max) BDs (though again, it could be less than 10 posted here, since some spots could be taken by non-Japanese animation).

Later in the week, although the data is getting harder to find, we get more complete lists, although sometimes no new information is added, like last week. This coming week will have a lot of data that doesn't make it onto the Tuesday lists but will come later in the week (usually between Thursday and Saturday).

SAO was released on 10/24, Wednesday. The reporting period is 10/22 through 10/28. Data is revealed on 10/30.

Oct 29, 2012 11:20 AM by jmal

SAOxAce said:
I am new to this selling and all, but is there a website to check the total sells of Sword Art Online?
They should be posted here some time tomorrow in a new thread.

Oct 29, 2012 10:34 AM by Yvese

I am new to this selling and all, but is there a website to check the total sells of Sword Art Online?

Oct 29, 2012 10:29 AM by SAOxAce

jmal said:
So relatively high nico preorders might indicate something Stalker is overestimating rather than accurate on.

That makes sense.

So far I see JoJo having a particularly high Nico Points compared to Chuunibyou and Little Busters while all three have roughly similar Amazon points accumulated so far. We shall see how this information might turn out for the actual sales.

Oct 29, 2012 7:57 AM by symbv

symbv said:
@jmal
I went to mania to check if there are any new sales data coming from Oricon last Friday but there does not seem to be any...

Yeah, I'm assuming it's the same as the previous week and Tuesday covered everything. The DVDBD Wiki updates over the weekend seem to confirm this, as they only added Tuesday data. Unless there's just data even the wiki admin didn't see.

We're sure as hell going to need a full list this week.

One way that 2ch uses Nico Points is to gauge the accuracy of Amazon stalker. Apparently if there are proportionately more people ordering from Nico via Amazon the anime title would be more an internet-order type than a storefront type, which may indicate the prediction of Amazon stalker to be more accurate.

Could be useful for that I guess. On the other hand, if a title is heavily internet-type, it just skews things in the opposite direction. Instead of an Arcana Famiglia, you get a Tari Tari. So relatively high nico preorders might indicate something Stalker is overestimating rather than accurate on.

Oct 29, 2012 5:29 AM by jmal

@jmal

I went to mania to check if there are any new sales data coming from Oricon last Friday but there does not seem to be any...

Then I found a discussion about Nico Points:


The number of people who preordered the title at Amazon through the Niconico Douga marketplace.

And no, they have no significant correlation to actual sales. Generally, titles that are being broadcast on Niconico do disproportionately well, because people will click on the marketplace links after watching an episode



I just want to add one thing:
One way that 2ch uses Nico Points is to gauge the accuracy of Amazon stalker. Apparently if there are proportionately more people ordering from Nico via Amazon the anime title would be more an internet-order type than a storefront type, which may indicate the prediction of Amazon stalker to be more accurate.

I have not crunched any number to prove how true it is, but I remember reading this in 2ch Sales Thread, so I think I'd just share it here.

Oct 29, 2012 1:48 AM by symbv

jmal said:

I think it's a fairly significant number of people who buy on the pre-sale day, or フラゲ日 a I see it often called. Oricon always ranks titles the day before street date, and it tends to be their best or second best ranking of the week.

Hmm... I think Oricon does not count フラゲ日 sales as from the pre-sale day but instead put it in the first day of sales. At least this is how it treats the CD sales. A CD that officially goes on sales on Wed may have a lot of copies sold on Tues, but in the daily ranking of Oricon, the Tues data would not know the data for that CD. All Tues sales data would go to Wed data instead.
jmal said:

So what I mean is that any sales data we would have now reflects ~48 hours of the titles being on sale, not 24.

True. In fact it can even be argued that the sales data for the "first day of official release" could cover even longer than 48 hours as the data would include all the BD/DVD shipped by Amazon before Wed and arrive at customer on Mon, even Sun (such things do happen).

Oct 25, 2012 10:55 AM by symbv

symbv said:
Some people may be able to get the BD on the 23rd because some shops start to sell it earlier (by intention or by mistake) and Amazon's shipment may arrive early. Yet those sales would not be counted by Oricon as being sold on the 23rd - it would be counted as being sold on the 24th its first day of sales instead.

I think it's a fairly significant number of people who buy on the pre-sale day, or フラゲ日 a I see it often called. Oricon always ranks titles the day before street date, and it tends to be their best or second best ranking of the week.

So what I mean is that any sales data we would have now reflects ~48 hours of the titles being on sale, not 24. And generally those will be the two most important days of the week. For titles that are storefront-heavy, the weekend usually sees an uptick too (Dog Days' for example) but most normal titles see their ranks drop gradually through the weekend and the rest of the week.

Oct 25, 2012 10:33 AM by jmal

jmal said:
symbv said:
The sum in bippo's post is 34k (28k BD and 6k DVD), and if it is from the daily ranking it means 34k was sold on its first day of sales.

Well, even if the image does say that, it was posted around the time the data on the 24th came out, which would be the second day of sales since most titles start selling the day before release date. So it could be the total from two days of sales (10/23→10/24).

I don't think so... because SAO is released on the 24th, and the post in 2ch was sent out in the evening of the 25th. If the data on the 25th is really the daily ranking it would show the sales on Oct 24th which is the first official day of sales of SAO vol.1. Some people may be able to get the BD on the 23rd because some shops start to sell it earlier (by intention or by mistake) and Amazon's shipment may arrive early. Yet those sales would not be counted by Oricon as being sold on the 23rd - it would be counted as being sold on the 24th its first day of sales instead.

Oct 25, 2012 10:15 AM by symbv

symbv said:
The sum in bippo's post is 34k (28k BD and 6k DVD), and if it is from the daily ranking it means 34k was sold on its first day of sales.

Well, even if the image does say that, it was posted around the time the data on the 24th came out, which would be the second day of sales since most titles start selling the day before release date. So it could be the total from two days of sales (10/23→10/24).

Still a bit confused about this image though! Too bad it wasn't up long enough to be cached by google or anything.

Oct 25, 2012 10:01 AM by jmal

bippo said:
Yeah. Saw the image.

Don't have a copy stored in your browser cache or anything, by any chance? Curious what it looks like since I've seen a handful of screenshots of daily rankings before (but they never had data), so I have an idea what they look like.

Also not sure if you're saying you think they are trolling, or think they aren't?

Oct 25, 2012 9:49 AM by jmal

Yeah. Saw the image. You can tell if the uploader is trolling because he will not dare put that image in the uploader for more than 5 minutes as he'll have the police on his doorsteps a moment later and he'll not put the whole list with complete numbers. eg Kokoro Connect's numbers are missing.

Oct 25, 2012 9:45 AM by bippo

symbv said:
If it is this post, then it would just be a guess.

Yeah that one. It's just someone's guess, not (it seems) someone typing out numbers from an image.

I don't know if Oricon even publishes exact daily figures. If they do it's probably in the absolute most expensive data package, because we never see them. I think the only time I see daily numbers are for CDs, or for really massive hit movies where actual press releases go out bragging about first day sales.

Oct 25, 2012 9:44 AM by jmal

jmal said:

The only place i see 28000/6000 is this post which is just part of a big speculation subthread.

If it is this post, then it would just be a guess.

The post in 2ch has this:
SAO1巻初動
BD28000
DVD6000

And the word 初動 means First Week Sales, which we clearly do not yet know as the full week has not ended yet.

Oct 25, 2012 9:41 AM by symbv

bippo said:
@jmal: http://brunhild.sakura.ne.jp/up/src/up576677.jpg it was visible for 3 minutes then the uploader deleted it.
Archived thread: http://logsoku.com/thread/engawa.2ch.net/poverty/1351147829/

Hm I started following this morning from 10434, one thread late.

I do see the post in the thread that mentions the image but from the responses to #836 I think it's just the daily rankings (w/o sales numbers). The timing is just a few minutes before the ranks were posted over at another 2ch thread.

The only place i see 28000/6000 is this post which is just part of a big speculation subthread.

I guess what I should ask is, did you see the image personally?

(Sorry I'm being so skeptical and all, I just don't see anything that looks like definite proof yet.)

Oct 25, 2012 9:33 AM by jmal

RyanSaotome said:
So is that 35k for SAO confirmed? Or is that just like the estimated numbers?

The sum in bippo's post is 34k (28k BD and 6k DVD), and if it is from the daily ranking it means 34k was sold on its first day of sales.

Oct 25, 2012 9:24 AM by symbv

So is that 35k for SAO confirmed? Or is that just like the estimated numbers?

Oct 25, 2012 9:22 AM by RyanSaotome

bippo said:
@symbv: No the top 5 i said was today only. Not for the whole week. Magi got a boost for reasons I don't know.

Actually I understand it is today's ranking only, as you made it clear in your post. I was just wondering that in terms of preorder Gintama and ToLoveRu Darkness should also be likely candidates for the top 5 places but perhaps they somehow did not reach the top 5 today.

bippo said:
@jmal: http://brunhild.sakura.ne.jp/up/src/up576677.jpg it was visible for 3 minutes then the uploader deleted it.

The 2ch sales thread is getting hard to acquire data. The sales updates on Tues and Fri are now given in some image upload link (like the one above) which gets removed very very quickly. I need to be lucky (or on alert all the time) to catch this kind of update.

Oct 25, 2012 9:20 AM by symbv

RyanSaotome said:
Girls und Panzer will probably be the hit where nobody in America understands why it sells well. Its the worst rated non kids/3 min anime of the season on MAL, after all.

I find myself often at variance with the taste of the American fans :-)

While I would not place GalPan in the same league as Chu2yo, ToLoveRu Darkness or Little Busters, I certainly find it much better than I expected. Here again I see I am having similar shift as many fans in Japan. One comment (coming from a person not particularly into moe) I found in a Japanese forum pretty much exemplifies the opinion change

(Before the show started)
"The tanks are here just for show. It will just be yet another moe anime where a bunch of cute girls messing around in tanks"

(when the PV and more info came out)
"OK, a big cast of girls -- so this anime is used to pull in the seiyuu fans?"

(after ep.1 and 2)
"It is unexpectedly interesting - it has friendship and there are a lot of interactions of various characters, the senshado is treated respectfully like a real school club and not as a parody, and it shows real work being involved; the technical details about military and tank are not neglected, and it even has good amount of historical trivia here and there"

(after ep.3)
This is the dark horse of this season!! Seriously considering buying the BD....

Oct 25, 2012 9:15 AM by symbv

@symbv: No the top 5 i said was today only. Not for the whole week. Magi got a boost for reasons I don't know.

@jmal: http://brunhild.sakura.ne.jp/up/src/up576677.jpg it was visible for 3 minutes then the uploader deleted it.

Archived thread: http://logsoku.com/thread/engawa.2ch.net/poverty/1351147829/

Oct 25, 2012 9:12 AM by bippo