Blue Lock Chapter 298 Discussion

peak was stolen from us
did our boy dirty @ryzxgum

kaneshiro you telling me fukaku and kiyora got more value than nagi??? even with nagi's 1 goal damn. these bidders harsh XD ah well

no tokimitsu in top 23 thankfully

this also answers our question about elmination. i seriously doubt nagi will be kicked out now. though i did want igaguri to finally go

kaneshiro still luvs bachira

Anybody saying Fukaku, who is the U20 team goalkeeper being out there in the top 23 instead of Nagi, then you should try watching real football how squad selection works. Gagamaru's replacement is required in case a Goalkeeper sub is required during the U20WC.
I can't blame you guys for solely watching Blue Lock as only anime watchers just for its popularity and hype.
I see entire people making wrong comparisons for Nanase's presence as well instead of Nagi !
There will always be midfielders like ball retainers and passers and creators that will be required for a fully functioning team !
Since bluelock was designed to make strikers all the way. we think of comparing Nagi with these folks who did the best part for their desired position in supporting strikers.That's not how it works.
However, earning a seat in the Top23 squad for Nagi, his aim should have been competing with likes of Isagi, Rin ,Barou, Shidou, kunigami, etc., who are forwards, not with likes of Nanase or Hiori or Kurona , along with Karasu and Otoya, who are top of their game all of them who still got selected as Midfielders, since the squad will have limited seats for the positions as forwards, I believe Nagi failed to grab a seat for himself.

According to me the biggest surprise for a player who made it instead of Nagi was - Sendou (the model Creep). I still don't understand how he would be contributing as a striker. since I can see he didn't act like one in all the games that he played and probably has moved back to supporting role, and that's what the author is trying to tell us. (Did he score any goals? , if yes, was it more impactable than Nagi?)

There should be top goal scorers and assist charts as well next.

HOLY SHIT, THE AUTHOR ACTUALLY LOCKED OFF NAGI.
Applause to him. Barely makes sense since he did amazing in one match compared to others at the bottom of the bid, but I guess the author really wants to do something with Nagi in his spinoff. Or maybe we'll get a Wildcard 2.0, but that'd be kinda lame tbh. In any case, Nagi's eventual comeback will undoubtedly be hype. This will give him the real push for his much needed character development. And Bachira scored! W.

You mean you read the whole series, and Nagi was the most interesting thing about it? That's just sad.

In a story about egoism and constant improvement, you picked a lazy dude who has lost his ego and drive to improve.

There are no parallels here, we didn't get any codependency in Blue Lock before. Closest thing to it was Bachira and the Monster, but that was Schizophrenia. Depending on Reo again would mean his downfall, and he took that route to beat Isagi in that one play.
This was foreshadowed ages ago, first with Ego's immediate assessment after Nagi's miracle goal and then Barou's advice to Nagi after their match, right before this game.

It's one thing to have personal feelings for a character, and another to just blatantly rant for no reason- while ignoring the build up thus far.

Still a pretty sad choice of a favorite character if you ask me. Ah well.

The parallel you're crying about wasn't even the point behind Nagi's elimination. Like I said, it was about Nagi and Reo's codependency and the former's foreshadowed downfall after achieving the one thing he was aiming for. Your parallel is a nice callback, but that's all it is. Not the point.

Ego says Nagi is in a make or break stage after the goal, with the true test of his ego yet to come.
Barou says Nagi needs to feel despair to reawaken his drive.
Agi (FYI- their teammate at Manshine because you clearly haven't been reading) was the first to point out that Nagi and Reo's reunion will be catastrophic.
That's the author trying to build a narrative slowly and deliberately- if you were smart enough to actually put 2 and 2 together.

This is the problem with hate-watching lol

@certifiedbinger I get you wanna defend the story and all, but there’s a big difference between a good plot and just making characters suffer for no reason. You can go on about “foreshadowing” and “build-up” all you want, but Nagi was the only one keeping this story grounded. You talk about ego and drive, but isn’t that what made Nagi interesting? He wasn’t just some crazy dude obsessed with being the best, he actually had a real arc. And now they just threw it away for some forced drama with Reo.

And about that ‘parallel’ you’re so quick to brush off, yeah, maybe they set it up, but it still feels lazy. Isagi’s whole journey is tied to how Nagi changes, and that’s not just a callback, it’s supposed to show their progress (or lack of it). The story loves its cycles and parallels, but only when they actually make sense. Nagi’s downfall wasn’t satisfying, it was just there to push the plot forward. So yeah, maybe I’m ‘hate-watching,’ but that’s only because the series is starting to lose the plot, as if it had much of one to begin with though. Let me be mad about it

Nice, you made a friend lol
Genuine criticism is great, I wasn't a fan of the PXG match finish either.
Sasuke pfp over here makes forced arguments that sound manufactured and bait-y. I can't speak for you, because I haven't seen a whole lot of your "criticism" other than calling the arc 'slop'. Yeah, not a good look lol

Yo, I usually don't comment much on series but I've been thinking for a bit that I have some issues with the premise even though it's entertaining - and that is with the whole egoist thing over the arcs. The whole Nagi and Reo arc could’ve been such a breath of fresh air if it explored the importance of teamwork. I'm usually not a fan of the whole "nakama power" but here it's kind of needed at this point. Nagi and Reo are two of the most interesting characters in my opinion or if not "interesting" at least they have a lot of potential, especially now since Reo is established to be basically Kise from KNB. And they’re already a duo that could work together to do something unique, but instead, the story shoves this whole "individual ego" thing down our throats like it’s the only way forward.

The idea that teamwork is a weakness, especially when it comes to players like Reo and Nagi, feels like a big missed opportunity in Blue Lock, considering soccer is fundamentally a team sport. It’s almost as if the show is too focused on promoting individual skill and ego to the point that it forgets the balance that makes soccer such an exciting game. Sure, each player has to have an ego, but the idea that "teamwork" is looked down on as weak is kind of ridiculous. Nagi and Reo’s arc should’ve been about figuring out how they can combine their unique skills into something unstoppable, and how building a bond could actually elevate their game to new heights.

It would’ve been so much more satisfying to see them realize that teamwork doesn't mean giving up your individuality but finding the perfect balance between working together and standing out. That would’ve brought a much-needed depth to their story and given us a fresh look at how two players can evolve while respecting the game’s true essence.

And don’t even get me started on the part where a team that literally hates each other's guts wins THE match every fucking time. It’s so contradictory, especially when we see so many teams failing to sync up because of their egos. It kinda feels like the narrative's forcing the idea that pure egoism wins out in a team game, when in reality, cooperation is just as important, and It should be established at some point in this verse because it's getting too repetitive at this point. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy the Berserk x Soccer pannels and Rin activating his domain expansion, but like I think it would be nice if the show could just refresh this whole approach and give us a more balanced view of teamwork versus egoism, it would make everything feel more grounded. I mean you’d think they’d want to show the tension between personal ego and team success, but it feels like they’ve committed too hard to the “selfish ego” side of things even if it's getting old.

That's just my thoughts, no need to agree with them.

Yo, I usually don't comment much on series but I've been thinking for a bit that I have some issues with the premise even though it's entertaining - and that is with the whole egoist thing over the arcs. The whole Nagi and Reo arc could’ve been such a breath of fresh air if it explored the importance of teamwork. I'm usually not a fan of the whole "nakama power" but here it's kind of needed at this point. Nagi and Reo are two of the most interesting characters in my opinion or if not "interesting" at least they have a lot of potential, especially now since Reo is established to be basically Kise from KNB. And they’re already a duo that could work together to do something unique, but instead, the story shoves this whole "individual ego" thing down our throats like it’s the only way forward.

The idea that teamwork is a weakness, especially when it comes to players like Reo and Nagi, feels like a big missed opportunity in Blue Lock, considering soccer is fundamentally a team sport. It’s almost as if the show is too focused on promoting individual skill and ego to the point that it forgets the balance that makes soccer such an exciting game. Sure, each player has to have an ego, but the idea that "teamwork" is looked down on as weak is kind of ridiculous. Nagi and Reo’s arc should’ve been about figuring out how they can combine their unique skills into something unstoppable, and how building a bond could actually elevate their game to new heights.

It would’ve been so much more satisfying to see them realize that teamwork doesn't mean giving up your individuality but finding the perfect balance between working together and standing out. That would’ve brought a much-needed depth to their story and given us a fresh look at how two players can evolve while respecting the game’s true essence.

And don’t even get me started on the part where a team that literally hates each other's guts wins THE match every fucking time. It’s so contradictory, especially when we see so many teams failing to sync up because of their egos. It kinda feels like the narrative's forcing the idea that pure egoism wins out in a team game, when in reality, cooperation is just as important, and It should be established at some point in this verse because it's getting too repetitive at this point. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy the Berserk x Soccer pannels and Rin activating his domain expansion, but like I think it would be nice if the show could just refresh this whole approach and give us a more balanced view of teamwork versus egoism, it would make everything feel more grounded. I mean you’d think they’d want to show the tension between personal ego and team success, but it feels like they’ve committed too hard to the “selfish ego” side of things even if it's getting old.

That's just my thoughts, no need to agree with them.

I think you're forgetting that Nagi did that one miracle goal and basically disappeared. Keeping Manshine's overall poor performance aside, he did absolutely nothing noteworthy in the team, let alone scoring goals, which is what Chigiri and Reo did to get their bids.

Nanase put in the work, and his involvement in Rin's plays earned him his bid. Everything was fair.

I've seen people dumping on Fukaku (U20 Goalie) who got a higher bid, but if y'all go back and check, his bid was the same as in the previous rankings- It was Nagi who fell that low.

Anybody saying Fukaku, who is the U20 team goalkeeper being out there in the top 23 instead of Nagi, then you should try watching real football how squad selection works. Gagamaru's replacement is required in case a Goalkeeper sub is required during the U20WC.
I can't blame you guys for solely watching Blue Lock as only anime watchers just for its popularity and hype.
I see entire people making wrong comparisons for Nanase's presence as well instead of Nagi !
There will always be midfielders like ball retainers and passers and creators that will be required for a fully functioning team !
Since bluelock was designed to make strikers all the way. we think of comparing Nagi with these folks who did the best part for their desired position in supporting strikers.That's not how it works.
However, earning a seat in the Top23 squad for Nagi, his aim should have been competing with likes of Isagi, Rin ,Barou, Shidou, kunigami, etc., who are forwards, not with likes of Nanase or Hiori or Kurona , along with Karasu and Otoya, who are top of their game all of them who still got selected as Midfielders, since the squad will have limited seats for the positions as forwards, I believe Nagi failed to grab a seat for himself.

According to me the biggest surprise for a player who made it instead of Nagi was - Sendou (the model Creep). I still don't understand how he would be contributing as a striker. since I can see he didn't act like one in all the games that he played and probably has moved back to supporting role, and that's what the author is trying to tell us. (Did he score any goals? , if yes, was it more impactable than Nagi?)

There should be top goal scorers and assist charts as well next.

You need to discard the idea that these bids are their ranks in Blue Lock.
"Nanase is higher" isn't right, he got his bid as per the overall trends in this auction.

For strikers, it is-
20 Mil for an assist.
30-50 for a goal.
They said as much.

Nanase jumped from 16 to 25 Million- 9 Million. Which is absolutely deserved, because he almost had an assist, but Rin didn't take the shot because of his mental issues.
He got half credit for an assist, because it wasn't actually scored. Which is totally valid.

Same goes for Kunigami- He was valued at 50 Mil before the match, and got bumped to 66 because of his assist in Isagi's first goal.

As simple as that.
Nagi hasn't contributed to any goals or assists, that's why he has GRADUALLY fallen down in the bids. This wasn't sudden or anything.

Make of Raichi's bid what you will, because they haven't really given any parameters on what makes a defender more valuable. Even then, he was holding his own against Rin before he went licky mode.
Nagi is a striker, and if you're having to compare Goalie and Defender bids against his, that's pretty sad as it is.