King_KK said: you can call me whatever you want, but pls take my advice and stay away from that bandwagoners' site filled with mouth breathers who are known for spreading lie.Says the guy who made an alt account with the soul intention of downvoting other anime.You are just an attention seeker. Keep on trolling, idiot. That's the only thing that can give your worthless life any meaning. |
| Hes a pretty good mc imo |
| relatable and he's cute |
| Not an amazing or top-tier MC for me, but by no means an awful one either. At least he's got something of a personality going for him as well as having some room to grow as the series progresses and takes more turns besides just the MC being overly nice and super boring with no real room to grow throughout the journey of the series. His character is a mixed bag for me with some elements I appreciate and some I don't care too much for/don't love, but he's better than being incredibly forgettable/mediocre and he's not completely annoying in every appearance either. Find him more appealing than the other big Jump anime MCs in recent times like Tanjiro and probably the most boring and bland Jump MC in Yuuji for me personally. |
| i ain’t read all that but i agree with what i did read. denji’s main reason for being called a good mc is how relatable he is but anyone above the age of 12 that relates to denji is a weird perv |
| he just like me. and anyone that knows me knows I'm perfect. so that makes him perfect. |
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Ionliosite2 said: He is pretty much trash, basically Kazuya from Kanojo Okarishimasu but edgy. There is a difference between a spineless coomer and a horny teenager, dude |
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thunderkitten13 said: He is a really weak MC. His motivations are juvenile and doesn’t even make sense within the context of his own life. I’ve never met a homeless person who was motivated by the thought of touching boobs. Most are on drugs suffering from mental illness, but I’m Denji’s case they make it seem as if it is a cute quirk of his character to be a pervert, which isekai has already done already to an even greater degree. He has potential to change into someone meaningful but tbh he’s a joke of an MC at the moment and is pretty annoying to watch, almost like he is 13. Bro just watched the show with his eyes closed |
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| It's refreshing to see a not-so-typical shounen protagonist. |
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| He's definitely not a "revolutionary" mc but he has a great arc and good development through out the series. |
| if u read the manga, Denji take a bath and did some skinship together with Power. But, guess what happen? he's not even horny anymore like he used to and just treat Power as his little sister while struggling with his emptiness feelings after what happened at International Assassin Arc. Truly great chara development, my boy changed. |
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| i really don't wanna make a full opinion of Denji right now cause i know he develops later and i wanna have my opinion after i get the full picture but as of right now, not too deep but i guess i like him cause hes funny |
| far better than most other shounen protagonists. he actually has a unique story and personality. other than nagisa and edward, every other battle shounen mc I had seen were 80% copy pasted. he's funny, he's interesting, he is relatable without being a blank default, and he is just fucking cool in fights. like you can not tell me, cutting demons in half with chainsaw, isn't way more bad ass than punching, kicking, or attacking people with swords. also also, the thing that I like the most, he is not a great person. he's not evil, but he is certainly not an angel either. which is a fucking breath of fresh air. I can't think of a single shounen mc that has been like this. like name one shounen mc that would throw a car at the enemy with someone in it, because that someone is a dude. you can't. nothing is even close. |
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DeOnePieceIsReal said: Potatoboy11 said: pls stop with this revolutionary thing and read more shounen manga.Now you just misunderstood what people say. Denji is a revolutionary "SHOUNEN" protagonist. There has been no shounen protagonists, at least not that I know of, to share the same tropes or motives as denji. Ionliosite2 said: literally the best post in this thread, we need more poster like ion, instead of all these mouth breathers who are doing nothing but spreading rumours "le denji is revolutionary protagonist"He is pretty much trash, basically Kazuya from Kanojo Okarishimasu but edgy. pls don't use reddit to much, that thing is roting your brain. I haven't seen a single protagonist in shounen that would throw a car at a demon with a civilian in it. calling him revolutionary, is not exactly right. since it is giving him a little too much credit. he is certainly not like most other shounen protags, but he isn't the only unique snowflake in the market. edward and nagisa for example are also very unique. BUT, what is unlike every other shounen protag in him, is how he isn't that great of a person. he isn't bad, but he is certainly not role model either. and I don't know a single shounen protagonist that is like that, at least not to this degree. I'm not saying there can't be one, but if there is a shounen with an mc like that, it's not that famous. |
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HungryForQuality said: I think I'm spoiled a bit by Parasyte in that regard. The similarities between the two stories are obvious and I liked how normal and relatable Shinichi was. Compared to him, Denji feels like a clown which would be fine if this was a pure comedy like High School DxD but it looks like it's not. I even read some comments from the mangaka where he said he's basing the character of Denji on child abuse documentaries he watched. So I guess time will tell. Well this is kind of unfair. parasyte has one of the most well written and highly developed characters in anime, having standards like that would be like wanting every dark fantasy to be berserk, and every soundtrack to be made in abyss. Now that said I do think you're giving denji too little credit. his motives are funny, because of how simple and teenage boy perverted they are, but I think seeing that as a joke and nothing less is wrong. The story needs to finish before I can fully talk about this, but the show clearly has major theme of "motivation" and it's value. and while his motives may be silly, they have been building up on that theme with perfection. which is what a good mc should do. shinichi too had a character arc directly related to the theme of humanity. the line that really sold me on why denji's motivations are kind of perfect for this series, was when he told the leach devil "if I defeat, then your dream is weaker than touching tits." it's building up on the idea that the value of motivation is not the same for everyone. it's value is determined by the person behind it alone. now that is very surface level as of now, but the show has only had 5 episodes. and even that small theme has been conveyed perfectly imo so again, he is no where near the mc of parasyte yet, but he isn't just funny haha mc go tit either |
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LoganSpirit said: He's ok, nothing special, and I don't know why people say he's so relatable, it's not like everyone is as hopeless as him at getting chicks lmao He wants to touch tits, and get with a girl. are you really surprised us weebs relate to him? |
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| Dumb. I mean that for both Denji himself and also the way he is written. I mean I'm quickly losing interest in this show as a whole every week from all angles but Denji for me is just really hard to tolerate and his personality doesn't feel much different than the shounen protagonists we get every season. I like Denji a lot more when I take the approach of not taking Denji or Chainsaw Man seriously. Like when I remember that CSM is a work more like a fun rollercoaster versus something like Homer's The Iliad. It's a cheap thrills show and in that Denji is sort of the perfect posterboy for that. |
Ionliosite2 said: He is pretty much trash, basically Kazuya from Kanojo Okarishimasu but edgy. what makes a character like him likable, is that he can put his money were his mouth is. kazuya is loser simp, that from what I have heard, has next to 0 growth through out the series. denji, is a simp, but he is also har working, has gone through hardships that make his motivations more understandable, he has already been slowly growing and changing, his motive align with the themes of the series, and most important of them all, he has an actual personality outside of just being a simp. Now, I have only heard things from rend a girlfriend, so If kazya has these traits too forgive me, but I seriously doubt it. if he had he wouldn't be one of the most hated characters In anime community. |
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| Your not looking deep enough into denji to understand his character and experiences, your focusing on his "questionable" behaviors only. I don't know about the revolutionary part but he's surely one of a kind. You don't have to love Denji or relate to everything about him, but you'll surely find something that clicks inside that soup bowl. |
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PriinceYuki said: Your not looking deep enough into denji to understand his character and experiences, your focusing on his "questionable" behaviors only. This is painting with the absolute broadest of strokes and thinking that it's nuance. The lesson of "things aren't always what you expect" while wide-reaching isn't a particularly deep or original lesson. It's harder to relate as well when the character himself is barely written as a real human being. |
LoganSpirit said: Apolygon2 said: He wants to touch tits, and get with a girl. are you really surprised us weebs relate to him? I'm not surprised by it, it's just that it's such a dumb motivation and so far he's not even that likeable, if you took the sad background away and just had him with that goal, you would probably think he's just some scumbag. well yes, him not having anything in his life untill now, is what makes him likable to most people. without it he would be another isekai protag pervert. taking away his backstory would completely kill his character. so yes you are right. but like, saying " take "x" away and "y" would be bad" is a terrible argument imo |
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| He's basically an MC that makes fun of other MCs from shounen. Like...dude literally says fuck complex motivations and goals, I'm just here for tits. At this point that sums up CSM. There is no complexity or layered dynamics. It's just a face value unapologetic series. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
Champloo_Remix said: The lesson of "things aren't always what you expect" while wide-reaching isn't a particularly deep or original lesson. It's harder to relate as well when the character himself is barely written as a real human being. Well yeah since the start he's basically been a human dog to survive. I'm guessing the reason why manga readers love him is because of how he grows from this and changes overtime.. or because he's just different. I don't think that's a deep life lesson since that's just something that happens to all of us in life so it might've been a relatable experience rather than a life lesson. |
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LoganSpirit said: Apolygon2 said: well yes, him not having anything in his life untill now, is what makes him likable to most people. without it he would be another isekai protag pervert. taking away his backstory would completely kill his character. so yes you are right. but like, saying " take "x" away and "y" would be bad" is a terrible argument imo It's not a shitty argument in this case seeing that his objective with our without his backstory is still kinda scummy. Instead of focusing on a better life and making friends, all that is in his mind is feeling up some tits, you might like that motivation, but for me it's simply stupid. I mean... he is a straight 16 year old boy who has never had a girlfriend or anything close to that. It's a completely logical motivation for him to have. I'm not saying you have to like it. but it's not scummy. it's not like he has done anything evil to reach it. sex is appealing to most people, specially to teenage boys, specially when they have been a social outcast who has never had a girlfriend. If he had gone out of his way to be a pervert, that would be one thing, but he hasn't done anything like that. |
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| he's a refreshing well written protagonist at first but he gets worse; later on in the manga his motivations are played up to where it feels like the author is constantly just trying to shove the idea of "LOOK AT THIS UNIQUE DIFFERENT INTERESTING CHARACTER" down your throat. i agree that ppl are overglorifying his character as a revolutionary protagonist. imo he would've been one if the author wasn't trying so hard to make him seem like one |
| He's alright, I guess. Though I must say I find it a bit disturbing that so many people find him somehow relatable. |
LoganSpirit said: Apolygon2 said: I mean... he is a straight 16 year old boy who has never had a girlfriend or anything close to that. It's a completely logical motivation for him to have. I'm not saying you have to like it. but it's not scummy. it's not like he has done anything evil to reach it. sex is appealing to most people, specially to teenage boys, specially when they have been a social outcast who has never had a girlfriend. If he had gone out of his way to be a pervert, that would be one thing, but he hasn't done anything like that. I don't see how spending his day fighting devil's with a strong possibility of death at each encounter for the chance of sexual gratification logic but that's just me I guess. I'm not saying that he can't have that motivation, everyone is entitled to his or hers own motivations in life, all I'm saying is that to me it's a dumb motivation to have and I can't see the relatability to him apart from the sex stuff, because if that's the main thing that makes him relatable, then that means that basically every shonen or romcom protag are also all relatable on the same level, seeing that most are teenagers. the difference is that the tit loving romcom and isekai protagonists are scums and creeps. people can relate to wanting to fondle boobs, but they can't relate to trying to peep at girls locker room. people can relate to doing a "dare" to get the attention of a girl. but they can't relate to accidently opening bathroom door and seeing screaming naked girls. that's why that type of relatability gets lost for a lot of people in those types of shows. he is not even slightly malicious with how he goes about that dream. his character is actually a lot closer to a character like subaru from re:zero. he is without a single doubt a simp too, but just like denji, he isn't a complete pervert or creep about it. both of them are bad a type of social ques, although for completely different reasons. and both of them seek a fatal character flaw that comes from their childhood. for denji it's the lack of affection, and for subaru it's the weight of expectations. that's plus both of them being kind of bad at socializing of course, but again, in different ways and for different reasons. I even say personally I like the way chainsawman has handled it's characters way more. it has a lot more show don't tell with it's character writing compared to re:zero, and to me personally that is very important. but what I was getting at is that, his character arc is very similar to subaru. at least so far. Ps: I forgot to answer the first line. yeah killing devils for tits would sound stupid, if it wasn't part of his job anyways. like he is a devil hunter, who is forced to stay one, even though the job is dangerous, it is a dangerous job that he has been doing his whole life. but he hasn't been touching tits his whole life, so you should see why those would be about the same value to him. |
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| He is interesting so far and looks like completely lost without any real human connection. He likes a dog and a child combined into one. |
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| Eh right now, he's my least favorite lol |
DeOnePieceIsReal said: King_KK said: you can call me whatever you want, but pls take my advice and stay away from that bandwagoners' site filled with mouth breathers who are known for spreading lie.Says the guy who made an alt account with the soul intention of downvoting other anime.You are just an attention seeker. Keep on trolling, idiot. That's the only thing that can give your worthless life any meaning. He got you pretty good though mouthbreather. |
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| I felt a similar vibe. Pretty much like RaG mc but with heroines that willing to offer their bodies in exchange for services. Instead of money, Denji is providing demons extermination services as a mean to accomplish and be rewarded to do whatever lewd things he like. Denji's next desire/motivation to fight: graduation from being a virgin. Also Denji: These girls have other guys playing gatekeepers. But no worry, I will get the first dip on Aki's Makima and Arai's Himeno. Denji is a good ecchi protagonist material. :D |
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Apolygon2 said: LoganSpirit said: I don't see how spending his day fighting devil's with a strong possibility of death at each encounter for the chance of sexual gratification logic but that's just me I guess. I'm not saying that he can't have that motivation, everyone is entitled to his or hers own motivations in life, all I'm saying is that to me it's a dumb motivation to have and I can't see the relatability to him apart from the sex stuff, because if that's the main thing that makes him relatable, then that means that basically every shonen or romcom protag are also all relatable on the same level, seeing that most are teenagers. the difference is that the tit loving romcom and isekai protagonists are scums and creeps. people can relate to wanting to fondle boobs, but they can't relate to trying to peep at girls locker room. people can relate to doing a "dare" to get the attention of a girl. but they can't relate to accidently opening bathroom door and seeing screaming naked girls. that's why that type of relatability gets lost for a lot of people in those types of shows. he is not even slightly malicious with how he goes about that dream. his character is actually a lot closer to a character like subaru from re:zero. he is without a single doubt a simp too, but just like denji, he isn't a complete pervert or creep about it. both of them are bad a type of social ques, although for completely different reasons. and both of them seek a fatal character flaw that comes from their childhood. for denji it's the lack of affection, and for subaru it's the weight of expectations. that's plus both of them being kind of bad at socializing of course, but again, in different ways and for different reasons. I even say personally I like the way chainsawman has handled it's characters way more. it has a lot more show don't tell with it's character writing compared to re:zero, and to me personally that is very important. but what I was getting at is that, his character arc is very similar to subaru. at least so far. Ps: I forgot to answer the first line. yeah killing devils for tits would sound stupid, if it wasn't part of his job anyways. like he is a devil hunter, who is forced to stay one, even though the job is dangerous, it is a dangerous job that he has been doing his whole life. but he hasn't been touching tits his whole life, so you should see why those would be about the same value to him. You don't understand single thing about Re:Zero, which you gave 6 is enough example you don't understand this masterpiece. 1- Subaru and Denji is not similar, they are completely different. Denji is horny teenager simp bait who has no depth or development, he is not realistic comparing him to god-tier characters like Subaru is a insult. Comparing mere shounen character to seinen dark fantasy novel mc. What a joke. 2- Re:Zero is a show don't tell. Just because stuff told in Re:Zero is higher than any anime you watched doesn't mean Re:Zero is not a show tell. If you read cut content or analyze in much more in depth you will understand Re:Zero is a show don't tell. Stuff you learn from the anime not even 25% of it. That happens because Re:Zero is a novel adaptation not some simple manga. Chainsaw Man is a shounen, characters are simple even though they look complex, they are not like in Re:Zero. Re:Zero has 5-6 multi layered character writing no shounen can close which is normal because Re:Zero is seinen and also a novel. Thinking otherwise is proof of "anime was a mistake" and shounen fanboys being delusional. |
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