Arataka Reigen VA Sakurai Takahiro caught in a 10 year long affair which neither his gf or wife knew

Oct 27, 2022 5:08 PM

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Him being the voice of Guiche only makes this funny to me honestly

Oct 27, 2022 6:07 PM

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MunkeeMan said:

Sajonji said:

If people weren't that terminally online and could seperate private and business better then nothing would and should happen.
With how things are in this clown world, idk.
Japan is quite un-woke, thank god, so maybe it will be fine ?

It’s not even about being woke though, the guys just an asshole if he’s a cheater. I would say the chances are higher for him to be fired since it would be a bad image for whatever companies hire him. Not that I’m saying I want his life to be ruined or that companies should fire him for this, but I don’t get how people think it’s not a problem nonetheless so long as it doesn’t affect their own lives and their anime.

It certainly is "a" problem, but it's not "my" or any of our problem. There's a limit to the extent which an individual should stick their nose into somebody else's business. It's simply not the job of netizens to punish an individual for their private affairs.

Oct 27, 2022 6:12 PM

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animeman_02 said:

Asahi124 said:
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so the agency not gonna fire him?

Figures. He makes paper so the company won’t just let him go. Though, I can’t help but think how he wrote this with a smirk on his face. I guess as long as it’s convenient to the majority, they can even twist justice.

Oct 27, 2022 6:17 PM

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Katsudon-kun said:

Sajonji said:
So what ? Why should we give a fuck ?

I don't know this guy personally, i just hear the voiced characters. He could fuck with half of Tokyo and i wouldn't care one single bit.
As long as his work continues to be good, he can do whatever he likes in his private life.

Because if this happened in America, people on the internet would talk about it for a day or two then move on. However, because this happened in Japan, “playing a role” (i.e. you’re a celebrity now and you should have a clean image) and saving face are all part of the culture.

To top it all off, the cancel culture here is absolutely something else - like the Japanese will really try to bully you out of your job if you even just look or do something particularly offensive in their eyes. Coupled with their habit of saving face, there’s a viable chance a company may let you go because of the negative publicity you put on them. One of the examples I can think off is what they did to the stage actor of Souma Kanzaki in Ensemble Stars. The guy was accused of being overweight and when he said on Twitter to give him a chance, the fans really wanted him gone. After a certain period, he left EnStage, Ensembles Stars’ live theatre performance arm. Then there’s the seiyuu of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aya Hirano, and her fellow band members being fired after a leak said that she had intimate relationships with them.

With all of that said, Reigen’s VA is probably more sorry that he got caught than actually being genuinely apologetic.

I think what many people don’t know about this country is how rampant infidelity is - and I find it ironic as the Japanese are all about upholding a role and portraying a pristine public image. There’s a reason why anyone can get the option of having unscented soaps and shampoos in love hotels.

This is what I had in mind. Is collectivism the right word for this? But in the end, they’re persecuting someone when they’re guilty the same. That’s another level of hypocrisy.

Oct 27, 2022 6:27 PM

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Deknijff said:
Him being the voice of Guiche only makes this funny to me honestly

Always thought he played Guiche a little too well...

Oct 27, 2022 6:27 PM

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Asphiee said:

animeman_02 said:

so the agency not gonna fire him?

Figures. He makes paper so the company won’t just let him go. Though, I can’t help but think how he wrote this with a smirk on his face. I guess as long as it’s convenient to the majority, they can even twist justice.

Now you're just painting him as a cartoon villain. No sane person would feel happy about being exposed in a scandal, especially if they're wholly guilty of causing it in the first place. Not having an additional worry of unemployment on top of the relational and legal mess he's in is a minor relief, but nothing worth gloating about.

I can respect a company's intervention on the matter for the sake of securing their revenue, but's not their job to enforce "justice" - that is entirely up to the perpetrator, the victims, and whatever legal institution they wish to involve in their dispute to sort out.

Oct 27, 2022 6:30 PM

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Germs_N_Spices said:

Asphiee said:

Figures. He makes paper so the company won’t just let him go. Though, I can’t help but think how he wrote this with a smirk on his face. I guess as long as it’s convenient to the majority, they can even twist justice.

Now you're just painting him as a cartoon villain. No sane person would feel happy about being exposed in a scandal, especially if they're wholly guilty of causing it in the first place. Not having an additional worry of unemployment on top of the relational and legal mess he's in is a minor relief, but nothing worth gloating about.

I can respect a company's intervention on the matter for the sake of securing their revenue, but's not their job to enforce "justice" - that is entirely up to the perpetrator, the victims, and whatever legal institution they wish to involve in their dispute to sort out.

True that. That’s why I said it’s only in the back of my head. I can’t figure how he’s taking all this but yes, he’s definitely in a tough spot.

Oct 27, 2022 7:11 PM

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Koustubh said:
Oh boi, wtf did he just do:
https://twitter.com/shonenleaks/status/1585455155243143168
https://twitter.com/theseiyuucafe/status/1585534446559989760

This is honestly very pathetic and bad. Hope the ones who were cheated find courage to go through this horrible revelation. Also, what's gonna happen to Reigen's VA now? I guess all episodes must be ready at this point in terms of VA recordings. This is messed up.

So thats why hes the best VA for any villain in anime

Oct 27, 2022 7:17 PM

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I just hope he finished recording reigen then it is fine even if he is dropped

Oct 27, 2022 7:30 PM

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welp, he can say goodbye to his career now lol

Oct 27, 2022 7:34 PM

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Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Because if this happened in America, people on the internet would talk about it for a day or two then move on. However, because this happened in Japan, “playing a role” (i.e. you’re a celebrity now and you should have a clean image) and saving face are all part of the culture.

To top it all off, the cancel culture here is absolutely something else - like the Japanese will really try to bully you out of your job if you even just look or do something particularly offensive in their eyes. Coupled with their habit of saving face, there’s a viable chance a company may let you go because of the negative publicity you put on them. One of the examples I can think off is what they did to the stage actor of Souma Kanzaki in Ensemble Stars. The guy was accused of being overweight and when he said on Twitter to give him a chance, the fans really wanted him gone. After a certain period, he left EnStage, Ensembles Stars’ live theatre performance arm. Then there’s the seiyuu of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aya Hirano, and her fellow band members being fired after a leak said that she had intimate relationships with them.

With all of that said, Reigen’s VA is probably more sorry that he got caught than actually being genuinely apologetic.

I think what many people don’t know about this country is how rampant infidelity is - and I find it ironic as the Japanese are all about upholding a role and portraying a pristine public image. There’s a reason why anyone can get the option of having unscented soaps and shampoos in love hotels.

This is what I had in mind. Is collectivism the right word for this? But in the end, they’re persecuting someone when they’re guilty the same. That’s another level of hypocrisy.

(Edited)

Yes, Japan is a collectivist society - you may have heard that they need to think for the good of the team, and not for one person. The moment you do something problematic in an organization or company’s eyes, there’s a good chance that you’re likely to be let go from your job.

I also find it weird that people don’t find this problematic - like cheating is bad, whether others know about it or not and whether it’s common or rare. When other folks get wind of it and say the cheating party is absolutely an asshat, I’d simply say that’s karma biting them back.

Now, it’s worth noting that the Japanese can hold grudges for a long time, and that begins to affect how people perceive you. Combine that with them valuing you playing you’re role well while maintaining that good public image, being controversial or doing something controversial in the country’s entertainment industry isn’t an option nor is it something that can be easily shaken off.

Had the timing of this controversy been different, as in Studio Bones were still in the middle of making S3, this would’ve put a wrench into production - making it everyone’s problem (doubly so if you like the seiyuu or the MP franchise in general). And while it’s not the job of the production committee to deliver justice to this guy, it’s their job to protect their respective party’s reputation, and one of the ways they could do that is firing the guy and distancing themselves away from him. Hopefully, and from what I’ve read in the comments, the recording is finished so they can just quietly cast him off to the side with minimal issue.

I think the best thing that can happen to this seiyuu is that he won’t be blacklisted, but he’ll be relegated to lower priority projects for the foreseeable future.

Katsudon-kunOct 27, 2022 8:28 PM

Oct 27, 2022 7:44 PM

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Katsudon-kun said:

Asphiee said:

This is what I had in mind. Is collectivism the right word for this? But in the end, they’re persecuting someone when they’re guilty the same. That’s another level of hypocrisy.

Yes, Japan is a collectivist society - you may have heard that they need to think for the good of the team, and not for one person. The moment you do something problematic in an organization or company’s eyes, there’s a good chance that you’re likely to be let go from your job.

I also find it weird that people don’t find this problematic - like cheating is bad, whether others know about it or not and whether it’s common or rare. When other folks get wind of it and say the cheating party is absolutely an asshat, I’d simply say that’s karma biting them back.

Now, it’s worth noting that the Japanese can hold grudges for a long time, and that begins to affect how people perceive you. Combine that with them valuing you playing you’re role well while maintaining that good public image, being controversial or doing something controversial in the country’s entertainment industry isn’t an option nor is it something that can be easily shaken off.

I think the best thing that can happen to this seiyuu is that the company won’t fire him, but he’ll be relegated to lower priority projects for the foreseeable future.

So much for striving the ideal society. Each country’s really twisted in their own way. I don’t want to ponder about it too much, it’s making me nauseate.

Oct 27, 2022 8:01 PM

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Has got absolutely nothing to do with me and he'll prolly still stay voice acting

Oct 27, 2022 8:47 PM

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Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Sajonji said:
So what ? Why should we give a fuck ?

I don't know this guy personally, i just hear the voiced characters. He could fuck with half of Tokyo and i wouldn't care one single bit.
As long as his work continues to be good, he can do whatever he likes in his private life.

Because if this happened in America, people on the internet would talk about it for a day or two then move on. However, because this happened in Japan, “playing a role” (i.e. you’re a celebrity now and you should have a clean image) and saving face are all part of the culture.

To top it all off, the cancel culture here is absolutely something else - like the Japanese will really try to bully you out of your job if you even just look or do something particularly offensive in their eyes. Coupled with their habit of saving face, there’s a viable chance a company may let you go because of the negative publicity you put on them. One of the examples I can think off is what they did to the stage actor of Souma Kanzaki in Ensemble Stars. The guy was accused of being overweight and when he said on Twitter to give him a chance, the fans really wanted him gone. After a certain period, he left EnStage, Ensembles Stars’ live theatre performance arm. Then there’s the seiyuu of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aya Hirano, and her fellow band members being fired after a leak said that she had intimate relationships with them.

With all of that said, Reigen’s VA is probably more sorry that he got caught than actually being genuinely apologetic.

I think what many people don’t know about this country is how rampant infidelity is - and I find it ironic as the Japanese are all about upholding a role and portraying a pristine public image. There’s a reason why anyone can get the option of having unscented soaps and shampoos in love hotels.

This is what I had in mind. Is collectivism the right word for this? But in the end, they’re persecuting someone when they’re guilty the same. That’s another level of hypocrisy.

Yes, Japan is a collectivist society - you may have heard that they need to think for the good of the team, and not for one person. The moment you do something problematic in an organization or company’s eyes, there’s a good chance that you’re likely to be let go from your job.

I also find it weird that people don’t find this problematic - like cheating is bad, whether others know about it or not and whether it’s common or rare. When other folks get wind of it and say the cheating party is absolutely an asshat, I’d simply say that’s karma biting them back.

Now, it’s worth noting that the Japanese can hold grudges for a long time, and that begins to affect how people perceive you. Combine that with them valuing you playing you’re role well while maintaining that good public image, being controversial or doing something controversial in the country’s entertainment industry isn’t an option nor is it something that can be easily shaken off.

I think the best thing that can happen to this seiyuu is that the company won’t fire him, but he’ll be relegated to lower priority projects for the foreseeable future.

So much for striving the ideal society. Each country’s really twisted in their own way. I don’t want to ponder about it too much, it’s making me nauseate.

It’s one of those things no one really thinks about until something problematic happens. And how people react is kinda fascinating to me.

Americans and Europeans don’t care about this as long as they get their anime. Here in Japan, they really do care since seiyuus are treated in the same vein as movie stars - big seiyuus are even seen as triple A celebrities. Since image and reputation play a big role in Japanese society, having a clean image and good persona is paramount if you want to remain in the entertainment industry.

Whenever something like this happens, the first question that comes to my mind is “How are the Japanese reacting to this on Twitter?” If you notice, I mentioned Twitter since this is Japan’s main social media platform or, in the JP term, SNS.

Oct 27, 2022 8:50 PM

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ain't no way, I read it as "He has affair with a 10 year old".

Oct 27, 2022 8:52 PM

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At least this is the last season of Mob Psycho.

Oct 27, 2022 9:34 PM

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Katsudon-kun said:

Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Sajonji said:
So what ? Why should we give a fuck ?

I don't know this guy personally, i just hear the voiced characters. He could fuck with half of Tokyo and i wouldn't care one single bit.
As long as his work continues to be good, he can do whatever he likes in his private life.

Because if this happened in America, people on the internet would talk about it for a day or two then move on. However, because this happened in Japan, “playing a role” (i.e. you’re a celebrity now and you should have a clean image) and saving face are all part of the culture.

To top it all off, the cancel culture here is absolutely something else - like the Japanese will really try to bully you out of your job if you even just look or do something particularly offensive in their eyes. Coupled with their habit of saving face, there’s a viable chance a company may let you go because of the negative publicity you put on them. One of the examples I can think off is what they did to the stage actor of Souma Kanzaki in Ensemble Stars. The guy was accused of being overweight and when he said on Twitter to give him a chance, the fans really wanted him gone. After a certain period, he left EnStage, Ensembles Stars’ live theatre performance arm. Then there’s the seiyuu of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aya Hirano, and her fellow band members being fired after a leak said that she had intimate relationships with them.

With all of that said, Reigen’s VA is probably more sorry that he got caught than actually being genuinely apologetic.

I think what many people don’t know about this country is how rampant infidelity is - and I find it ironic as the Japanese are all about upholding a role and portraying a pristine public image. There’s a reason why anyone can get the option of having unscented soaps and shampoos in love hotels.

This is what I had in mind. Is collectivism the right word for this? But in the end, they’re persecuting someone when they’re guilty the same. That’s another level of hypocrisy.

Yes, Japan is a collectivist society - you may have heard that they need to think for the good of the team, and not for one person. The moment you do something problematic in an organization or company’s eyes, there’s a good chance that you’re likely to be let go from your job.

I also find it weird that people don’t find this problematic - like cheating is bad, whether others know about it or not and whether it’s common or rare. When other folks get wind of it and say the cheating party is absolutely an asshat, I’d simply say that’s karma biting them back.

Now, it’s worth noting that the Japanese can hold grudges for a long time, and that begins to affect how people perceive you. Combine that with them valuing you playing you’re role well while maintaining that good public image, being controversial or doing something controversial in the country’s entertainment industry isn’t an option nor is it something that can be easily shaken off.

I think the best thing that can happen to this seiyuu is that the company won’t fire him, but he’ll be relegated to lower priority projects for the foreseeable future.

So much for striving the ideal society. Each country’s really twisted in their own way. I don’t want to ponder about it too much, it’s making me nauseate.

It’s one of those things no one really thinks about until something problematic happens. And how people react is kinda fascinating to me.

Americans and Europeans don’t care about this as long as they get their anime. Here in Japan, they really do care since seiyuus are treated in the same vein as movie stars - big seiyuus are even seen as triple A celebrities. Since image and reputation play a big role in Japanese society, having a clean image and good persona is paramount if you want to remain in the entertainment industry.

Whenever something like this happens, the first question that comes to my mind is “How are the Japanese reacting to this on Twitter?” If you notice, I mentioned Twitter since this is Japan’s main social media platform or, in the JP term, SNS.

It’s better for the non-Japanese who aren’t part of the society to not care about it. I’d get pissed if some foreigner is meddling with political or societal issue that are supposed to stay within the country (in this case, going to Twitter and getting on the bandwagon). Us discussing this matter soundly in this site would be the safest distance to get involved in this issue. Unless, you’re in Japan right now.

I got some personal stuffs to deal with. I don’t want to be involved in trivialities that doesn’t affect my lifestyle. Even with a cog gone, it will still be replaced and anime still continues to run.

Oct 27, 2022 10:58 PM

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I know this is a serious matter, but the fact that Reigen's VA did this is extremely funny to me.

Oct 28, 2022 1:58 AM

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Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Asphiee said:

Katsudon-kun said:

Sajonji said:
So what ? Why should we give a fuck ?

I don't know this guy personally, i just hear the voiced characters. He could fuck with half of Tokyo and i wouldn't care one single bit.
As long as his work continues to be good, he can do whatever he likes in his private life.

Because if this happened in America, people on the internet would talk about it for a day or two then move on. However, because this happened in Japan, “playing a role” (i.e. you’re a celebrity now and you should have a clean image) and saving face are all part of the culture.

To top it all off, the cancel culture here is absolutely something else - like the Japanese will really try to bully you out of your job if you even just look or do something particularly offensive in their eyes. Coupled with their habit of saving face, there’s a viable chance a company may let you go because of the negative publicity you put on them. One of the examples I can think off is what they did to the stage actor of Souma Kanzaki in Ensemble Stars. The guy was accused of being overweight and when he said on Twitter to give him a chance, the fans really wanted him gone. After a certain period, he left EnStage, Ensembles Stars’ live theatre performance arm. Then there’s the seiyuu of Haruhi Suzumiya, Aya Hirano, and her fellow band members being fired after a leak said that she had intimate relationships with them.

With all of that said, Reigen’s VA is probably more sorry that he got caught than actually being genuinely apologetic.

I think what many people don’t know about this country is how rampant infidelity is - and I find it ironic as the Japanese are all about upholding a role and portraying a pristine public image. There’s a reason why anyone can get the option of having unscented soaps and shampoos in love hotels.

This is what I had in mind. Is collectivism the right word for this? But in the end, they’re persecuting someone when they’re guilty the same. That’s another level of hypocrisy.

Yes, Japan is a collectivist society - you may have heard that they need to think for the good of the team, and not for one person. The moment you do something problematic in an organization or company’s eyes, there’s a good chance that you’re likely to be let go from your job.

I also find it weird that people don’t find this problematic - like cheating is bad, whether others know about it or not and whether it’s common or rare. When other folks get wind of it and say the cheating party is absolutely an asshat, I’d simply say that’s karma biting them back.

Now, it’s worth noting that the Japanese can hold grudges for a long time, and that begins to affect how people perceive you. Combine that with them valuing you playing you’re role well while maintaining that good public image, being controversial or doing something controversial in the country’s entertainment industry isn’t an option nor is it something that can be easily shaken off.

I think the best thing that can happen to this seiyuu is that the company won’t fire him, but he’ll be relegated to lower priority projects for the foreseeable future.

So much for striving the ideal society. Each country’s really twisted in their own way. I don’t want to ponder about it too much, it’s making me nauseate.

It’s one of those things no one really thinks about until something problematic happens. And how people react is kinda fascinating to me.

Americans and Europeans don’t care about this as long as they get their anime. Here in Japan, they really do care since seiyuus are treated in the same vein as movie stars - big seiyuus are even seen as triple A celebrities. Since image and reputation play a big role in Japanese society, having a clean image and good persona is paramount if you want to remain in the entertainment industry.

Whenever something like this happens, the first question that comes to my mind is “How are the Japanese reacting to this on Twitter?” If you notice, I mentioned Twitter since this is Japan’s main social media platform or, in the JP term, SNS.

It’s better for the non-Japanese who aren’t part of the society to not care about it. I’d get pissed if some foreigner is meddling with political or societal issue that are supposed to stay within the country (in this case, going to Twitter and getting on the bandwagon). Us discussing this matter soundly in this site would be the safest distance to get involved in this issue. Unless, you’re in Japan right now.

I got some personal stuffs to deal with. I don’t want to be involved in trivialities that doesn’t affect my lifestyle. Even with a cog gone, it will still be replaced and anime still continues to run.

It’s definitely good to not get too invested, but it is worth observing this from a distance. While Mob Psycho got lucky in that S3 is the final season and production is likely over, the same can’t be said for the other shows and games who casted him but are still in production. All of a sudden, their production committees are thrown a curveball - do they keep him in their lineup or ask him to go and just recast for someone else?

Since Mr. Sakurai is a big name seiyuu who cheated on his wife for 10 years and the woman he was cheating on didn’t know he was married, this is a controversy that won’t be easily swept under the rug. It will certainly affect his career prospects as well with casting directors and marketers being more wary of him.

Oct 28, 2022 2:16 AM

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MunkeeMan said:

Sajonji said:

If people weren't that terminally online and could seperate private and business better then nothing would and should happen.
With how things are in this clown world, idk.
Japan is quite un-woke, thank god, so maybe it will be fine ?

It’s not even about being woke though, the guys just an asshole if he’s a cheater. I would say the chances are higher for him to be fired since it would be a bad image for whatever companies hire him. Not that I’m saying I want his life to be ruined or that companies should fire him for this, but I don’t get how people think it’s not a problem nonetheless so long as it doesn’t affect their own lives and their anime.

But that's exactly the truth: It's not a problem for me, you and 99.9999% of people worldwide.
I don't know this guy personally. I don't know his wife or gf personally. I don't know the girl he cheated with personally. Neither do you. Neither does anybody on MAL i would assume.
Now, i would agree that you shouldn't cheat and he is quite the asshole because of it. But that's 100% in his private life. Over which nobody not personnally involved should have any judgement.
It really comes down to:
If there is something illegal going on, let the law take care. If nothing illegal is going on, there is no problem.
Easy as that.

I'm not reading any replies or comments directed at me at all. I know my truth and if you disagree: that's fine but i couldn't give a damn about :)

Oct 28, 2022 4:23 AM

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