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Sep 1, 2022 1:37 PM
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One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs
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Sep 1, 2022 1:55 PM
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I didn’t have a problem with attention retention until skypeia. Definitely felt unnecessarily drawn out.
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oh its complete garbage untill baratie
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Old_Greggu said:
I didn’t have a problem with attention retention until skypeia. Definitely felt unnecessarily drawn out.


Not even when it took them like 10 episodes to get across the desert in Alabasta?
Sep 1, 2022 2:19 PM
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One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

I think you should read the manga instead than.

It gets only worse after the timeskip, especially in Dressrosa and partly Wano.

The manga tho is mostly well paced.
It only gets rare like that, and if your not for example especially a weekly reader than you will not notice it.

And even as a weekly reader myself, it just depends on yourself.
I don't have any problems with the pacing etc.
Sep 1, 2022 2:20 PM
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SE_000 said:
CickNipolla said:
One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

I think you should read the manga instead than.

It gets only worse after the timeskip, especially in Dressrosa and partly Wano.

The manga tho is mostly well paced.
It only gets rare like that, and if your not for example especially a weekly reader than you will not notice it.

And even as a weekly reader myself, it just depends on yourself.
I don't have any problems with the pacing etc.


Oh I have heard that a majority of people see post time skip once piece as a major downgrade.
Sep 1, 2022 2:27 PM
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CickNipolla said:
Old_Greggu said:
I didn’t have a problem with attention retention until skypeia. Definitely felt unnecessarily drawn out.


Not even when it took them like 10 episodes to get across the desert in Alabasta?

I do vaguely remember it being drawn out, but was still enjoying it enough to not be bothered, once I stopped though (after 177) haven’t felt enticed enough to return, too much other stuff to watch that can actually be completed in a timely manner, as well as started watching other currently airing shows.
Sep 1, 2022 2:28 PM
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I don't know what you are talking about. One Piece started as a good show and became great at Arlong Park. It continued being great until Dressrosa, where you can really feel the pacing problems.
Sep 1, 2022 2:30 PM
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CickNipolla said:
SE_000 said:

I think you should read the manga instead than.

It gets only worse after the timeskip, especially in Dressrosa and partly Wano.

The manga tho is mostly well paced.
It only gets rare like that, and if your not for example especially a weekly reader than you will not notice it.

And even as a weekly reader myself, it just depends on yourself.
I don't have any problems with the pacing etc.


Oh I have heard that a majority of people see post time skip once piece as a major downgrade.

I personally can't speak for others because it just depends on everyone but I love post-timeskip. xD

I love both pre and post-timeskip but I personally prefer the post-timeskip. 🤔

And I especially meant that the pacing in the anime especially after the time is atrocious/unbereable.

Not post-timeskip itself is bad but the pacing and sometimes even also the animation/artstyle for example in Dressrosa is bad.

And sadly no one not even the staff of Toei Animation can do anything about it, because of an old contract that goes back to the very start of the anime in 1999.

As long as this contract is ongoing no one can do anything about it.
Sep 1, 2022 2:35 PM

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I dropped the show at skypiea for a whole year because it was slow and then started watching it again
I was going to drop it in thriller park but got to a certain episode that made the arc better
now I'm in impel down I like this arc but even if the arc is good I still see some slow episodes here and there
Sep 1, 2022 2:36 PM
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You can also watch the first couple hundred episodes in specials. I think it was Episode of east blue, Episode of nami, then there is an alabasta special and episode of skypiea.
So with 8 Hours you get like 230 eps
Sep 1, 2022 2:42 PM

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You can also watch the first couple hundred episodes in specials. I think it was Episode of east blue, Episode of nami, then there is an alabasta special and episode of skypiea.
So with 8 Hours you get like 230 eps


no reason to watch the show at all at that point. you can find better anime than one piece if youre looking for short, conclusive plots. you watch one piece for the humor/dialogue and the extensive world building. its just a lot of times they try to mask draggin the anime out for money as world building.
Sep 1, 2022 2:47 PM
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CickNipolla said:
Weezy42 said:
You can also watch the first couple hundred episodes in specials. I think it was Episode of east blue, Episode of nami, then there is an alabasta special and episode of skypiea.
So with 8 Hours you get like 230 eps


no reason to watch the show at all at that point. you can find better anime than one piece if youre looking for short, conclusive plots. you watch one piece for the humor/dialogue and the extensive world building. its just a lot of times they try to mask draggin the anime out for money as world building.

Yes it’s just an Option but ive watched it all more than 4 times so I cant really see how someone is not able to enjoy it at all ^^
Actually skypiea is my number 1 arc cause they just be Pirates there without a mission
Sep 1, 2022 2:59 PM

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Nah, there is no such barrier, but people want it to get absurdly epic in the episode 1 and that's not gonna happen.
Anyone who just start watching it without being in a hurry is fine.
Sep 1, 2022 3:14 PM

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I’m only on episode 40
Please stop, I don’t want to see any more Dekugo😭
Sep 1, 2022 3:21 PM

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Yeah One Piece takes a lot more episodes or chapters to get totally invested in. Which makes it hard to focus at times.

Sep 1, 2022 3:22 PM
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Skypiea was horrible to watch through. I stopped halfway and read the arc in the manga then watched one episode after Skypiea and I switched my sitting position like 20 times in one episode. I stopped there since 4 months and still nothing made me want to go back watching it. Its pacing really kills off a lot of its enjoyment
Sep 1, 2022 4:21 PM
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Alabasta, Skypeia and Dressrosa made me take a break for sure. Dressrosa was exhausting at one point, and for the newer viewers they will have a lot to catch up in wano (wano has lots of fillers too T-T)
Sep 1, 2022 5:15 PM

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CickNipolla said:
One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

I dont even disagree with you on this. The anime really draws out the arcs by a lot. In fact, I’d even go as far as to say that One Piece should only be having around 500-600 episodes right now rather than 1000 if it had proper pacing.

There are even times when the anime drawing out stuff kinda ruins a good arc. Like some filler scenes in Alabasta when they were crossing the desert (this was only a couple chapters in the manga) and in the future arcs, the stretched out stuff gets worse.

In all honesty, I suggest you temporarily switch to the manga for certain arcs that you find boring. Then switch back to the anime for the arcs that you expect to be intense.
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CickNipolla said:
One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

i think it depends on the person really I've started one piece recently as i used to watch it as a kid and I'm currently at the skypiea arc and I don't think it's slow at all lmao if ur really eager to watch it then you'll have no problem with it
Sep 1, 2022 5:51 PM

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The high barrier comes more from the high number of episodes than the arcs though that's a minor contributing factor.




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CickNipolla said:
One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

What episode you on?
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Sure I guess? But frankly I don't care if people can't get into the One Piece anime. I've always recommended that people read the manga since it's the complete story and the entire series up to this point can be read within a week. But of course there are tons of people who are apparently allergic to reading, or who would rather waste months or even years of their free time watching the anime and then proceed to complain that it's "too slow".
Sep 1, 2022 6:45 PM
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the eps before the time skip are better imo.
Sep 1, 2022 8:58 PM
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if you want better pacing read the manga its a billion times better
Sep 1, 2022 9:10 PM

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Wow, an actual CickNipolla thread/post I agree with. Yeah, some arcs are very slow-paced and lacklustre. The desert walk in the Alabasta arc is unbelievably boring. All of that for them to just say that Blackbeard wasn't hunted down by a small-time bounty hunter which was already very predictable.
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I think it also depends on what you're looking for. One wants to watch classical shounen with a lot of action and when he watches One Piece he may be disappointed at first, the second person wants to experience a journey, an immersive adventure and One Piece seems to be great in that case from the very beginning.
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Pillsbury_Uchiha said:
oh its complete garbage untill baratie

Frf usopp arc is fucking horrible
Sep 2, 2022 1:38 AM

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Sep 2, 2022 1:41 AM

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Early_Morning said:
Sure I guess? But frankly I don't care if people can't get into the One Piece anime. I've always recommended that people read the manga since it's the complete story and the entire series up to this point can be read within a week. But of course there are tons of people who are apparently allergic to reading, or who would rather waste months or even years of their free time watching the anime and then proceed to complain that it's "too slow".



who exactly is reading 1000 chapters in a week lol
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CickNipolla said:
One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

The problem is with the anime the manga is way faster and efficient to read.
If you don't like teasing then watch the anime in 1.5x speed or even 2x speed like i do.
Sep 2, 2022 3:16 AM
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honestly with a high barrier of entry it helps keep the riff raff of other Fandoms from getting in.
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Nogscy said:
Pillsbury_Uchiha said:
oh its complete garbage untill baratie

Frf usopp arc is fucking horrible

yep thats where i dropped it the first time
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Pillsbury_Uchiha said:
Nogscy said:

Frf usopp arc is fucking horrible

yep thats where i dropped it the first time

I just watched it in 1.5 speed because I had a friend who was caught up and he told me to do so
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yep thats where i dropped it the first time

I just watched it in 1.5 speed because I had a friend who was caught up and he told me to do so

i didnt start watching i. 1.5x speed untill alabasta
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Pillsbury_Uchiha said:
Nogscy said:

I just watched it in 1.5 speed because I had a friend who was caught up and he told me to do so

i didnt start watching i. 1.5x speed untill alabasta

Yeah i did watch first 2/3 of alabasta in 1.5 too but I personally thought skypiea was good and didn't drag on too long imo
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Pillsbury_Uchiha said:

i didnt start watching i. 1.5x speed untill alabasta

Yeah i did watch first 2/3 of alabasta in 1.5 too but I personally thought skypiea was good and didn't drag on too long imo

nah it def did 😂
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CickNipolla said:
One Piece has a high barrier in a sense that a lot of the arcs / sagas start out EXTREMELY slow & lackluster.. which makes many viewers give up on the show or drop it momentarily. We all know the classic " one piece doesnt get good for 400 episodes " meme. While it is an exaggeration, it is partially true. The first few arcs of One Piece are brutal to get through. This trend has continued throughout the series. Skypiea is extremely rough to get through at first, same with Alabasta, and now that im on Thriller Bark im noticing it as well. A lot of these arcs arent even bad! Its just that they suffer from being too drawn out, and as a result have a really ehhh start to the arcs

You should check out one pace,it fixes the pacing without skipping anything canon.
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I'm literally watching the Sky Island Arc right now and I've loved this anime so far. To know that this actually gets better had me HYPED. I'm glad I can watch things with smaller goggles. You just enjoy it more.
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CickNipolla said:
Weezy42 said:
You can also watch the first couple hundred episodes in specials. I think it was Episode of east blue, Episode of nami, then there is an alabasta special and episode of skypiea.
So with 8 Hours you get like 230 eps


no reason to watch the show at all at that point. you can find better anime than one piece if youre looking for short, conclusive plots. you watch one piece for the humor/dialogue and the extensive world building. its just a lot of times they try to mask draggin the anime out for money as world building.

They don't do it because of money (atleast mostly), but because of an old contract.

They for example don't show the coverstorys, because when they did in the past, the viewership dropped.

That's why they drag the anime soo much.

And they can't make a different/better schedule etc. because of that old contract I already mentioned.

That contract was made with the consent of Fuji TV in 1999 when the anime first started.

So they (Fuji TV) have all the rights and power.
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Having watched up to episode 325 so far, the only parts that truly tested my patience hard were the Usopp introductory arc at the beginning and the 2nd half of Skypiea. In particular for the latter, it's a shame because I think it had a huge amount of potential -in terms of ideas and ambition- on its hands, yet it was sadly wasted due to everything being so conceptually underwhelming and a pain in the ass to sit through in the end.
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who exactly is reading 1000 chapters in a week lol

People who have free time and want to read the series instead of watching the anime and complaining about trivial things like the animation or its pacing issues here on MAL every other day?

When I started the manga I was able to read 1 volume in about 30 minutes, and I read about 14 volumes per day. At the time there were only like 52 or so volumes, so I was able to catch up to the manga within about 4 days. So if I could read 50 volumes in 4 days, other people should be able to read 103 volumes in about a week, give or take an extra day or two depending on their reading speed. It's not that hard and I'm a slow reader, so I'm sure other people could read the manga much faster than I can.
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CickNipolla said:
who exactly is reading 1000 chapters in a week lol

People who have free time and want to read the series instead of watching the anime and complaining about trivial things like the animation or its pacing issues here on MAL every other day?

When I started the manga I was able to read 1 volume in about 30 minutes, and I read about 14 volumes per day. At the time there were only like 52 or so volumes, so I was able to catch up to the manga within about 4 days. So if I could read 50 volumes in 4 days, other people should be able to read 103 volumes in about a week, give or take an extra day or two depending on their reading speed. It's not that hard and I'm a slow reader, so I'm sure other people could read the manga much faster than I can.


you mean unemployed people right?

or young high schoolers like yourself lol
Sep 3, 2022 11:00 AM

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OP on an anti one piece agenda seen him hate everywhere for like 5 months
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degenerocity said:
OP on an anti one piece agenda seen him hate everywhere for like 5 months


unfortunately i got no idea who you are ;/
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CickNipolla said:
degenerocity said:
OP on an anti one piece agenda seen him hate everywhere for like 5 months


unfortunately i got no idea who you are ;/

i just been lurking, watching and i see you my man. if you don't like one piece just don't watch it.. stop making these annoying threads
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ok, you can keep watching Lycoris Recoil
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Sep 4, 2022 1:00 AM

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You gonna hate One Piece post time skip for sure lol
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nah, read manga if u feel its slow.
imo its not.
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My suggestion is always to try the manga. I agree that the anime can be very intimidating, especially with extremely poor pacing at times.

If you don't enjoy the manga, then it's probably not for you :)
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