What do you think is the biggest problem with the MAL review system?
| I know that some of these problems might be addressed with the most recent update, so I want to figure out which problems ya'll have the biggest problems with. |
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| Which one? The new or old. The new one is killing the rat race. Anyway, my biggest problem was probably rat racing. It was just a game of chance (an unfair one). It was fun at times tho, I can't lie. Also my reviews for old as fuck anime get no attention unless I display them on my profile. That isn't so problematic tbf but some comments on old anime via my review would be really nice to see (pls talk to me about old anime, anyone). |
| The rat race, although technically a lot of the options sound like describing the rat race in different terms. I'm not familiar how the new system kills the rat race. Seems the same to me. |
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NextUniverse said: I guess the old system. I'm not convinced that this update will kill the rat race, but people have said it will.Which one? The new or old. The new one is killing the rat race. Anyway, my biggest problem was probably rat racing. It was just a game of chance (an unfair one). It was fun at times tho, I can't lie. Also my reviews for old as fuck anime get no attention unless I display them on my profile. That isn't so problematic tbf but some comments on old anime via my review would be really nice to see (pls talk to me about old anime, anyone). |
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| The biggest problem is people caring about it |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| There is no comment section here literally all we do just agree n disagree at all. It's so funny when reviewer can edit their last review but in the same time we can't critic or correct their false statement from them lol |
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| Rebel Panda. Simply as that... Just kidding, his reviews sometimes are pretty funny and I actually agree with it sometimes. |
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Laxative said: I really never read them. MadanielFL said: Rebel Panda. Simply as that... Just kidding, his reviews sometimes are pretty funny and I actually agree with it sometimes. You read MAL reviews? Go outside, bro. Thank god! |
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| I don't think there is a problem, if anything the current problem is the passive-aggresiveness of the "funny" and "confusing" emotes, it's just Facebook all over again. |
Ionliosite2 said: I don't think there is a problem, if anything the current problem is the passive-aggresiveness of the "funny" and "confusing" emotes, it's just Facebook all over again. The emoticons really just kill the new system for me. I was trying to figure out why they bother me so much, and I think that's why. They're so unnecessary. |
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| For me it is lack of way to properly give negative feedback for reviews (your vote). Constructive criticism can help improve the quality of a review in future iterations. New reviews have almost no chance of getting into the front page and reviewers rushing to get their reviews right when an anime ends (The rat race) are interrelated with each other. |
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| I don't care about the review system (your vote) Reading reviews is same as not forming your own opinion. |
| The only thing I dislike is that they only changed the feedback options. I'd rather they have a like or dislike and not just the helpful option. |
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| All and every single one of those is the biggest problem. they all seem incredibly hard to fix and or change and it clusters together to be one big mess, but the rat race is absolutely the worst. some shows don't grow on you or hit hard until ages after you watch them and take time to think back, or if you rewatch them and figure out things new you didn't get the first time, or even grow older and being to get more (or less) about its themes and meaning. and people are out here watching 4 episodes going "ok this is everything" (not even seeing the ending if it hits or misses) and writing their reviews. |
Fang_ToothAug 4, 2022 9:14 PM
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Reviewers rushing to get their reviews right when an anime ends. (The rat race) New reviews have almost no chance of getting into the front page. (your vote) Aren't those the same? Anyway, that's the biggest problem. There's absolutely nothing wrong with haters bringing a negative review to the top. If people hate a show and think that a review represents their opinion well, that's just how it should be. It would be a problem if only negative reviews were at the top, though. That's why I once suggested (for the old system) showing one positive, one negative and one random review each time you load the front page of the anime, instead of the 3 most voted every time. |
| It's the "user cult" many reviewers here have. Their priests will upvote anything. Also the previously mentioned negative upvoting, that happened A LOT in the two last seasons. |
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| Lack of way to properly give negative feedback for reviews. The biggest problem is inability to hit dislike button. I'd love to dislike reviews and posts. I don't know why they are so afraid to add this feature. |
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| I don't care about reviews, because it will either say the anime/manga was masterpiece like no other or the worst thing ever written. |
| I don't care about reviews, because it will either say the anime/manga was masterpiece like no other or the worst thing ever written. |
| Using "objectivity" as a guideline for writing. |
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| I don't care about the review system (your vote) My tastes & preferences are not exactly the same as anyone else, so reading a review is of no benefit to me. Thus, I don't care about a review system, or it flaws. Just because the reviewer likes the anime doesn't mean I will, and just because the reviewer doesn't like it doesn't mean I won't either. I watch for my own entertainment, based on what interests me (at the time), not because someone else gives it a good review/rating. For lack of a better term, I guess I consider myself an Alpha Watcher. I'm not a beta watcher that likes or dislikes an anime because of the opinions of others. |
 You're never too old to watch anime. If I ever stop watching anime, check my pulse I'm likely dead. I wake up with coffee & anime, I go to sleep with coffee & anime. Sorry if my sarcasm is bad, it's not my first language. |
| It's only a problem if you read too many instead of making your own judgment.. How can anyone call themselves anime fans but they won't watch anything without reading 500 reviews? they should call themselves reviews fan instead.. |
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| In my opinion, the big problem is that new reviews of non-recent works don't make it to the front page, unless you're a famous reviewer with enough influence to spread the word and garner votes. As someone who has only written a few reviews on this site, I really feel unmotivated to write any reviews for shows that ended a few years ago. In addition to seasonal anime, I am constantly watching works that have already ended, and I believe that this scheme is also the same that many fans follow. My first Review was about Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu, however, being a popular work from almost ten years ago, already consolidated and with highly voted reviews, it is practically impossible for my text to have any visualization, since the priority order is by votes and, to find it, people would not only need to enter the reviews tab and change the giveaway criteria themselves (which almost nobody does anymore), but also scroll several pages. The method that I would have the most chance for people to read what I write would be for users to access it through my profile, but even this method already demands an engagement that is only possible when you are someone relatively influential in the community. I don't write this for myself, since I wrote this and some other reviews of old works aware of this difficulty of dissemination. However, such a system sometimes becomes inflexible. Most voted reviews at the time of the work's release will be forever stamped on the frontpage and this discourages people from writing new ones of old works. As a result, we have the other potential problem that many people have pointed out: the "rat race" is nothing more than a reflection of this phenomenon. I know it's somewhat irritating to see a rush of reviewers all the time when a work ends, but I think this behavior cannot be attributed to the people who write it, but to how the review system works. Like it or not, many people who write want to have their opinion stamped on the cover of the anime and feel that they have contributed to those who read it. While this may not be true for everyone, I can understand that reviewers focus on seasonal anime and rush posts with ready-made reviews because, quite simply, that's the only way to get visibility. There is no point in writing late reviews, as the others will have hundreds of votes and it will be almost impossible for people to see yours, let alone read it. I believe that if MyAnimeList inserted, for example, a "double tab" on the anime page, showing the most voted reviews in one section and the most recent ones in another, the site could somehow improve this. And, regarding the negative feedback, I just think MyAnimeList is right and shouldn't provide downvotes. It's not because I'm in favor of censorship or anything like that, but look at the example of AniList. There, it is possible to check Upvotes and Downvotes to the reviews, and the system is simply terrible. The vast majority of negative reviews, especially of mainstream or acclaimed works, end up with a very high number of downvotes. Why does it happen? Simple: because the majority of people don't even care about the reviews or don't read them, they just check if they are in favor of the anime or not and vote according to the resonance with their opinions. Of course there are people who read them, but a system based on Upvotes and Downvotes in a large community like MyAnimeList would not work, I believe, since the balance would tip towards those who do not read. On the internet, this is the most common behavior. After all, most people aren't that open-minded and probably won't take the initiative to read something whose thesis is something they disagree with. Many here don't even take the review system seriously and don't even care, as the voting proves, so what's to stop people from doing this? There is no way to prove that you have read or not the review to vote. It would be the same thing with r/anime, which I see so many people talking about here in reference to toxicity. Most of the time, it's even worse, because people look at the rating the author gave the work and not his main words. Despite the site's efforts to reduce this disparity by establishing a rating standard and changing the top part of the review to "Recommended | Mixed Feelings | Not Recommended", we know that many people do not judge according to the rating standard. I can adopt 5 as Average, but I see on MyAnimeList many who use 6, 7 or 8. Particularly, I don't see a problem with being like that and I think people should have that freedom for their grades. However, when someone with these criteria judges a review of someone who adopts 5 as median, for example, there is often an interpretative confusion. On AniList, this phenomenon is constant, since people who do not read reviews distribute downvotes and, on many occasions, this is reflected in situations where a person who credits the work as average would downvote another with the same opinion, just because the note that there is a 5 and not a 7 or 8. Do you understand the point I want to address? A site where the rating system is not unified in practice tends to these injustices when voting reviews, and it is probably impossible, in addition to being authoritarian, to control and force people to use a standard rating criterion. Downvotes would make it possible to shield against any negative review - and even positive, in some cases where there is collective hate towards some aspect of the work. Imagine, for example, that fans of the Chainsaw Man manga decided to downvote all the reviews that praised the more realistic and less caricatured vision that the director tried to convey in the anime. As it is a large community that is a fan of the manga, this would distort the entire review system. The same thing goes for reviewers in particular. Imagine if a crowd that doesn't like user X decided to get together to persecute him and downvote all his reviews. Or else, some youtuber or person with great influence commanded this kind of thing. I'm not saying that this would necessarily happen or that people who are in favor of downvotes would be encouraging it, but in a community where there are constant childish fights about FMAB, Shingeki no Kyojin, Gintama, Bleach and any other work taking the TOP 1 and having the score demoted by Bots, I think the chances are high. Anyway, that's my opinion. I know I wrote a lot, but I thought it was necessary to expose what I feel. |
MaranderJan 9, 2023 2:42 PM
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