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Jul 16, 2022 9:24 AM
#51
jonatann07 said: what they said at the end of the episode makes me think of Trent Alexander Arnold, who plays for Liverpool fc. He is the play maker for the team even at rb and is one of the best play makers in the world right now. So seing ashito's journey to becoming like that is gonna be exciting. (I don't know how to use commas properly, so sorry if it was hard to understand what I have written) FINALLY non manga reader who understand and associate it with real life footballer.. Yeah I agree Aoi is quite similar to TAA, but rather than becoming an attacking minded fullback, Fukuda is planning to make Aoi a complete fullback both in attack and defense. There is none so far irl. Both TAA and Cancelo are average in defense (Cancelo is a little bit better than TAA tho). But they are the closest one we get in terms of playmaking. |
KyouKaiTenJul 16, 2022 9:48 AM
“You should enjoy the little detours to the fullest. Because that's where you'll find the things more important than what you want.” |
Jul 16, 2022 9:29 AM
#52
akutsu getting annoyed everytime he see aoi is so funny to me like cut ur future student some slack he's going thru it 😮💨 |
Jul 16, 2022 9:40 AM
#53
For the football fans who don't know, that genius togashi mentioned that participated in the experiment was Xavi from Barcelona |
Jul 16, 2022 9:41 AM
#54
For the football fans, that genius togashi mentioned that participated in the experiment was Xavi from Barcelona |
Jul 16, 2022 9:57 AM
#55
this episode was way better animated than the last few ones, everything felt a lot more fluid and even the stills were more detailed than before. really loved this episode. now I know where this season will end. |
Jul 16, 2022 10:00 AM
#56
Everybody has a stake in the Ashito game for good or bad |
Jul 16, 2022 10:03 AM
#57
Nishant_ said: this episode was way better animated than the last few ones, everything felt a lot more fluid and even the stills were more detailed than before. really loved this episode. now I know where this season will end. Hope for second season soon. |
Jul 16, 2022 10:08 AM
#58
-Marce said: now chance for more season is 85% don't worry producer had seen potenial of Ao Ashi heheNishant_ said: this episode was way better animated than the last few ones, everything felt a lot more fluid and even the stills were more detailed than before. really loved this episode. now I know where this season will end. Hope for second season soon. |
Jul 16, 2022 10:20 AM
#59
Aoi getting thrown into the deep end having to play on th defensive side. The complete opposite of where his natural motivations lie in the game. Aoi almost gets like kinda bored sitting all the way in the back. Forced to keep looking to his teammates to see what he can do or not do. The amount of freedom Aoi has just got decreased by a lot. He can't push up to attack if one of the other guys back on defense has already done that because it would leave them exposed it the other to team got past them. Its extremely frustrating to see Aoi stuck in this position he actively doesn't like because the coach thinks its better for him. Without giving Aoi proper time to digest the decision or even practice to get the hang of it. Aoi is made to learn on the fly which isn't very smart way of getting players to learn. Aoi was able to thankfully make a play since he has such great field vision and knew that corner kick was going to the far side. He has natural soccer instincts but I'm agreeing with Anri that Aoi is better suited for the midfielder position not all the way back on defense. |
Jul 16, 2022 10:29 AM
#60
Jul 16, 2022 10:33 AM
#61
lehuy0210 said: -Marce said: now chance for more season is 85% don't worry producer had seen potenial of Ao Ashi heheNishant_ said: this episode was way better animated than the last few ones, everything felt a lot more fluid and even the stills were more detailed than before. really loved this episode. now I know where this season will end. Hope for second season soon. I hope so too! Ao Ashi is very popular in Japan and around the world! |
Jul 16, 2022 10:35 AM
#62
He basically wants Aoi to become an offensive defender "playmaker". It really fits Aoi's playstyle and his abilities, shown in the last few minutes of the episode where he predicted the movement of the ball and position of the player. Well, we still don't fully know why he's full-back while some other positions might be better in this case. "Defenders" is known to be boring for a lot of people while it's actually as important as other roles or on the same level. Fukada is probably just planting the seeds for now and waits for Aoi to grow so he can do more with him. Well, I can't wait for Aoi to become a complete playmaker and dominate the game. But, it probably won't happen in this season. It's time to read the manga sooner or later. Also, Akatsu was pretty rude this episode once again. I still don't know his motive but it will probably be explained. |
“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
Jul 16, 2022 10:35 AM
#63
Damn Akutsu can be pretty rude, I hope that he'll change attitude. Ashito is obviously confused about playing in defense lol |
Alexisonfire98Jul 16, 2022 10:41 AM
Jul 16, 2022 10:56 AM
#64
DaMn this episode was great. Man, I loved the conversation at the end, Togashi and Yuma with Anri. By the way, playmaker eh, quite the chills I felt down my spine at the end there. It is indeed possible to be a playmaker as a defender. Though it's quite rare to see one. But welp, our boy Ashito here has been doing the unpredictable. So I wouldn't be surprised if he did stay as a defender. (Would like him to become an attacking mid player tho, 'coz that would be hella more I.N.T.E.R.E.S.T.I.N.G |
If you choose to do only what you know, you'll never experience the joy of being able to do something you couldn't before. |
Jul 16, 2022 11:09 AM
#65
Kind of annoyed they didnt mention Xavi At all, I was really looking forward to seeing him and his name show up |
Jul 16, 2022 11:48 AM
#66
SideCharacterKal said: He basically wants Aoi to become an offensive defender "playmaker". It really fits Aoi's playstyle and his abilities, shown in the last few minutes of the episode where he predicted the movement of the ball and position of the player. Well, we still don't fully know why he's full-back while some other positions might be better in this case. "Defenders" is known to be boring for a lot of people while it's actually as important as other roles or on the same level. Fukada is probably just planting the seeds for now and waits for Aoi to grow so he can do more with him. Well, I can't wait for Aoi to become a complete playmaker and dominate the game. But, it probably won't happen in this season. It's time to read the manga sooner or later. Also, Akatsu was pretty rude this episode once again. I still don't know his motive but it will probably be explained. Ashito is very difficult to play as defender. I only hope he can also shoot the balls as he did before! Akatsu is rude again. Nothing can explain is behavior. I really hope for second season! It has to be!! |
Jul 16, 2022 11:50 AM
#67
Alexisonfire98 said: Damn Akutsu can be pretty rude, I hope that he'll change attitude. Ashito is obviously confused about playing in defense lol There are assholes like that IRL too. Used to play in a club similiar to that and most of them thought they were cream of the crop and nobody made it anywhere. I would be shocked if he changed at any point. These players would rather stop playing football than admit they were wrong or have any insight on their behavior |
Jul 16, 2022 12:24 PM
#68
Ofenfrische said: Alexisonfire98 said: Damn Akutsu can be pretty rude, I hope that he'll change attitude. Ashito is obviously confused about playing in defense lol There are assholes like that IRL too. Used to play in a club similiar to that and most of them thought they were cream of the crop and nobody made it anywhere. I would be shocked if he changed at any point. These players would rather stop playing football than admit they were wrong or have any insight on their behavior Oof, sorry to hear it. I hope that you still enjoy playing and watching soccer anyway despite this experience! |
Jul 16, 2022 12:48 PM
#69
So a playmaker in the end huh, had a feeling it would be that tbf |
Jul 16, 2022 2:22 PM
#71
That final scene really got me! I really understand Fukuda. I also started playing as a sideback, but envolved to a midfielder, wich requisres great vision, defending skills, passing skilss and positioning. I think he will got all! Changing positions it is not so rare, Kennedy ( Chelsea player), who used to play at the front, but as soon as he got into Chelsea, they treined him to be a sideback, offensive one. |
Jul 16, 2022 2:39 PM
#72
I just love the series as it develops! I’m a athlete and really enjoy the sportsmanship and the “whole cake” - I.G is good of sport anime. |
Jul 16, 2022 4:13 PM
#73
Viewland said: Then I imagine what you would say seeing Akkutsu's defensive partner Shimura for the first time 😅Togashi and Akutsu looks like going on steroids |
Jul 16, 2022 5:11 PM
#74
Great episode. I love the flow of character development it's not rushed. The emotions is on point. They made it clear that players don't improve overnight BUT they will surely improve by constant practice. They showing us that there's a good result in being patient. Ashito is showing deep frustration which is very normal and true considering what happened to him. He know nothing about defending and it's his first time playing as a fullback. Although that play from Ashito didn't go as planned, it's still good. His bird's eye is very useful in defending. Though he still doesn't fully understand how his vision works but he'll get to it. Football explanations and informations are overflowing again, I like it. Very good side characters they're getting more and more interesting. I'm starting to like Anri. The girl has knowledge. And she's kinda cute. Akutsu is still an asshole. I like him that way. |
Jul 16, 2022 7:14 PM
#76
As expected, Ashito was inverted fullback. This show getting better and better. Anri was fav chara so far, she's the Speedwagon of this series. And rather than manager, she way better as Sporting Director in future. |
Jul 16, 2022 9:00 PM
#77
excellent episode! Akutsu is really targeting Ashito...i wonder what's the backstory on why his attitude is like that...i wanna see his deep grudge! lolz what we learned from this episode is: unconscious bias also hinders on planning things also "playmaker" nice! 5/5. |
Jul 16, 2022 9:35 PM
#78
It's good that they are showing us the reality of playing in a different position: the frustration, the doubts, the denial...but at the end of it, there's always acceptance. I've never played sports but I guess this is a common challenge for any sports player. But aside from that, I just want to really mention how pleasantly good-natured the other side characters are like Ohtomo and Togashi. Their subtle ways of looking after Ashito is just awesome to watch. Just don't get on Ohtomo's bad side since he might put your name in his death note hahahhaha. And more goofy Yuma!!!! And of course, Akutsu is still this hateful dude that we all want to hate but I think it's fine. It adds more spice to the story :) |
Jul 16, 2022 9:41 PM
#79
This series is criminally underrated. Why the heck is that? So much better than most other series airing, like Lycoris Recoil for example |
Jul 16, 2022 10:42 PM
#80
Ugh. Fucking Akutsu, man. I seriously hate they guy. I get targeting the weak link in the chain, but that guy just sucks. Aoi needs to focus up and stop thinking like a forward and start thinking like a defender. I don’t get all the tactics, but I can tell this is a sink or swim moment. I get his frustrations but he needed to stop whining and get his shit together. The pro leagues ain’t all fun and games. All that sulking meant Togashi and the others had to cover for him. Glad Ohtomo was able to make Aoi realize that and got his head in the game. Speaking of Ohtomo, his list of guys he hates was hilarious. Takeshima shot right up to the top hahaha. I love that 3 was “guys who refer to themselves in third person and still get dates” lol. But anyways, what did Anri mean that Aoi would be best as an attacking midfielder? What’s a “deep-lying one” or “central”? Kind of lost me there. I get what Togashi was saying about her “wasting an opportunity” because of her inherent biases, but why would Aoi be more suited as a “playmaker” than say those other positions? Is it just a better use of his special eagle eye vision or..? |
Jul 16, 2022 11:34 PM
#81
Silent_Shadow05 said: Speaking of Ohtomo, his list of guys he hates was hilarious. Takeshima shot right up to the top hahaha. I love that 3 was “guys who refer to themselves in third person and still get dates” lol. I think the one who refer themselves in 3rd person are the girls, not the guys. This kind of girls usually are cute. So Ohtomo are jealous with guys who dates cute girls like this. Silent_Shadow05 said: But anyways, what did Anri mean that Aoi would be best as an attacking midfielder? What’s a “deep-lying one” or “central”? Kind of lost me there. I get what Togashi was saying about her “wasting an opportunity” because of her inherent biases, but why would Aoi be more suited as a “playmaker” than say those other positions? Is it just a better use of his special eagle eye vision or..? Playmaker is known to be the creative player in football. The best position for them are definitely in midfielder because they can directly involve in creating chance in the final 3rd. If you take for example a formation like 4231, the "attacking midfielder" is the one right behind the striker, while the the "deep-lying one" is the one in double pivot (the 2 in 4231) behind attacking mid. These positions are the ideal position in creating chances for playmakers. But when it comes to modern football, this is not the case anymore. Teams become more compact in their defense that there is hardly no space to exploit by the "advanced" playmaker. This is why you need to have a playmaker from a deep area, ie. a fullback. If you look at teams like Man City, almost all of their players (including GK) can do playmaking to some extent. Their main playmaker are stilld KdB (a central midfielder or no. 8), but they also have Cancelo, an "inverted fullback", as their 2nd playmaker. Just think of it like Kuribayashi and Aoi in Esperion. There is also team like Liverpool which is more extreme because their main playmaker are the fullback itself TAA. |
“You should enjoy the little detours to the fullest. Because that's where you'll find the things more important than what you want.” |
Jul 16, 2022 11:45 PM
#82
Silent_Shadow05 said: Ugh. Fucking Akutsu, man. I seriously hate they guy. I get targeting the weak link in the chain, but that guy just sucks. Aoi needs to focus up and stop thinking like a forward and start thinking like a defender. I don’t get all the tactics, but I can tell this is a sink or swim moment. I get his frustrations but he needed to stop whining and get his shit together. The pro leagues ain’t all fun and games. All that sulking meant Togashi and the others had to cover for him. Glad Ohtomo was able to make Aoi realize that and got his head in the game. Speaking of Ohtomo, his list of guys he hates was hilarious. Takeshima shot right up to the top hahaha. I love that 3 was “guys who refer to themselves in third person and still get dates” lol. But anyways, what did Anri mean that Aoi would be best as an attacking midfielder? What’s a “deep-lying one” or “central”? Kind of lost me there. I get what Togashi was saying about her “wasting an opportunity” because of her inherent biases, but why would Aoi be more suited as a “playmaker” than say those other positions? Is it just a better use of his special eagle eye vision or..? I mean just by looking at the play, Ashito really fits there because he can possibly use all of his abilities. He can lead them to score many goal. So I kinda agree with Anri. But if he could be a playmaking fullback, then it would be awesome because he can do both offensive and defensive. And with his ability I think it would suit him better than any other position. Also "Deep Lying" meaning that the player will focus on helping both defense and offense in the midfield position so that will be very hard and requires great stamina because u will be running a lot. |
Jul 17, 2022 12:19 AM
#83
Silent_Shadow05 said: But anyways, what did Anri mean that Aoi would be best as an attacking midfielder? What’s a “deep-lying one” or “central”? Kind of lost me there. I get what Togashi was saying about her “wasting an opportunity” because of her inherent biases, but why would Aoi be more suited as a “playmaker” than say those other positions? Is it just a better use of his special eagle eye vision or..? Playmaker is a 'role'. Like 'striker'. Full-back, attacking midfielder, central midfielder, deep lying / defensive midfielder, center forward, wide forward / winger.. those are are 'positions'. Usually the role of 'playmaker' - dictating the play of the team - is carried by an attacking midfielder or a deep lying midfielder - those who play in the center of the pitch. But this is not always the case in modern football. Roles can be more fluid. you can have the center forward who usually is tasked with scoring goals (the 'striker' role) take more of a support role where the main goal threat, the 'striker', comes from the wings. And so on.. Same as playmakers - there are some teams that make a fullback do the role of 'playmaker' - though not very common. And mind you - there are no rules that dictate what roles you must have in the team and how many. you can have multiple players carrying similar roles. All depends on the manager's tactics. |
Jul 17, 2022 1:46 AM
#84
Ofenfrische said: Alexisonfire98 said: Damn Akutsu can be pretty rude, I hope that he'll change attitude. Ashito is obviously confused about playing in defense lol There are assholes like that IRL too. Used to play in a club similiar to that and most of them thought they were cream of the crop and nobody made it anywhere. I would be shocked if he changed at any point. These players would rather stop playing football than admit they were wrong or have any insight on their behavior Absolutely agree! I also know such people who never change. It is impossible for them. DaThorAkilia said: I just love the series as it develops! I’m a athlete and really enjoy the sportsmanship and the “whole cake” - I.G is good of sport anime. Agree! Great sport series! Waiting for the second season! Very pity, yes. And what role does this girl play in the series? Reed_of_PC said: As expected, Ashito was inverted fullback. This show getting better and better. Anri was fav chara so far, she's the Speedwagon of this series. And rather than manager, she way better as Sporting Director in future. Yes, I agree. Anri would be a great Sporting Director in the future. She easily understand basics of football management. rebelakuma said: It's good that they are showing us the reality of playing in a different position: the frustration, the doubts, the denial...but at the end of it, there's always acceptance. I've never played sports but I guess this is a common challenge for any sports player. But aside from that, I just want to really mention how pleasantly good-natured the other side characters are like Ohtomo and Togashi. Their subtle ways of looking after Ashito is just awesome to watch. Just don't get on Ohtomo's bad side since he might put your name in his death note hahahhaha. And more goofy Yuma!!!! And of course, Akutsu is still this hateful dude that we all want to hate but I think it's fine. It adds more spice to the story :) Yes, Yuuma is great! Othomo and Togashi are also amazing! Animillion said: This series is criminally underrated. Why the heck is that? So much better than most other series airing, like Lycoris Recoil for example I agree, best sport series airing now and not only now. People simply used to watch and read isekai and idol theme works, that is why. Silent_Shadow05 said: Ugh. Fucking Akutsu, man. I seriously hate they guy. I get targeting the weak link in the chain, but that guy just sucks. Aoi needs to focus up and stop thinking like a forward and start thinking like a defender. I don’t get all the tactics, but I can tell this is a sink or swim moment. I get his frustrations but he needed to stop whining and get his shit together. The pro leagues ain’t all fun and games. All that sulking meant Togashi and the others had to cover for him. Glad Ohtomo was able to make Aoi realize that and got his head in the game. Speaking of Ohtomo, his list of guys he hates was hilarious. Takeshima shot right up to the top hahaha. I love that 3 was “guys who refer to themselves in third person and still get dates” lol. But anyways, what did Anri mean that Aoi would be best as an attacking midfielder? What’s a “deep-lying one” or “central”? Kind of lost me there. I get what Togashi was saying about her “wasting an opportunity” because of her inherent biases, but why would Aoi be more suited as a “playmaker” than say those other positions? Is it just a better use of his special eagle eye vision or..? Yes, Akutsu is a horrible man. I think Ashito would be great as a Playmaker Fullback. I hope he can not only play in defense, but also play as before. |
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Jul 17, 2022 3:50 AM
#85
SK71 said: i didn't read the manga, but i could imagine what kind of player he's being paired with 😅Viewland said: Then I imagine what you would say seeing Akkutsu's defensive partner Shimura for the first time 😅Togashi and Akutsu looks like going on steroids |
Jul 17, 2022 5:53 AM
#86
Jul 17, 2022 6:15 AM
#87
LordSozin said: @-Marce, Anri's role in the series is demonstrating that being a female doesn't mean rolling for MC from day 1. That's the girl I respect! I agree, also respect her!! |
Jul 17, 2022 11:27 AM
#88
Aoi's first try at playing as full-back a.k.a defender, it's not gonna stop him from reaching his goal of being a forward. Being a defender meant that you'll have to shuffle both forward and backwards, with no one behind him, and the A Team gives him a run for his skill that not everyone has the prowess to be a defender. And here is Aoi not paying enough focus and in desperate need of a guidance, albeit facing much opposition from Akutsu's A Team, and Ohtomo's proposition to play defending...actually pays off, slowly, but time will tell if he does it right. Akutsu continues to slain bitter words, while Takeshima forwards a great deal of insight into Aoi. Also, having a girlfriend, that's Ohtomo's high ranking hate lols. Anri also wanting to know what Fukuda is thinking of when he gave Aoi the ultimatum to be a defender, and rather, thinking that being a midfielder is Aoi's desired position next to a forwarder. But being a defender in the similar vein of Xavi Hernandez and his ability of "Barca's Heart", this was the experiment that put him on the map, and that's where her assurance bias is showing. But regardless, Fukuda's play on Aoi on making him a playmaker, I'd also believe that this is what the final result should be. How the changes are made, we'll find out step by step. |
Jul 17, 2022 11:47 AM
#89
LordSozin said: @-Marce, Anri's role in the series is demonstrating that being a female doesn't mean rolling for MC from day 1. That's the girl I respect! Agreed. I like both the female characters in this series more than any female characters in anime with all-girl characters |
Jul 17, 2022 11:54 AM
#90
a boring match in this ep, the ep actually got better after it ended lol. |
I have a third testicle that gives me psychic powers |
Jul 17, 2022 2:36 PM
#91
"Ashito memorizing all players on the field is scientifically impossible!" "Oh yeah, I've seen that study where the dude did exactly what Ashito does." |
Jul 17, 2022 3:10 PM
#92
vF_Wackiier said: "Ashito memorizing all players on the field is scientifically impossible!" "Oh yeah, I've seen that study where the dude did exactly what Ashito does." It's a real tho. It was done on Spanish player Xavier Hernandez. Players with such skill are rare but do exist. |
Jul 17, 2022 3:15 PM
#93
Tsarko said: vF_Wackiier said: "Ashito memorizing all players on the field is scientifically impossible!" "Oh yeah, I've seen that study where the dude did exactly what Ashito does." It's a real tho. It was done on Spanish player Xavier Hernandez. Players with such skill are rare but do exist. yeah, was just "quoting" the girl who said this. |
Jul 17, 2022 4:38 PM
#94
The translation is a little bit off when Fukuda explain about the coin things. "They come from the incredible number of loose balls you picked up". What are "they"? The manga makes it more clear by saying "You kept getting the ball at an unusually high frequency" which implied that Ashito can read where the loose balls will land. |
“You should enjoy the little detours to the fullest. Because that's where you'll find the things more important than what you want.” |
Jul 17, 2022 4:45 PM
#95
I’m definitely leaning towards the theory that Aoi will end up as a midfielder, but if he does stay a defender that would be pretty interesting. There aren’t many defenders out there who consistently score goals, off the top of my head only Franz Beckenbauer comes to mind. So it would be fun to see that happen with Aoi! |
"Truth is always a cruel thing." |
Jul 18, 2022 3:05 AM
#96
KyouKaiTen said: The translation is a little bit off when Fukuda explain about the coin things. "They come from the incredible number of loose balls you picked up". What are "they"? The manga makes it more clear by saying "You kept getting the ball at an unusually high frequency" which implied that Ashito can read where the loose balls will land. Indeed! In manga it is shown in more details. Thanks! triplepsycho said: I’m definitely leaning towards the theory that Aoi will end up as a midfielder, but if he does stay a defender that would be pretty interesting. There aren’t many defenders out there who consistently score goals, off the top of my head only Franz Beckenbauer comes to mind. So it would be fun to see that happen with Aoi! i think so too! Let's see what will happen next to Ashito! |
Jul 18, 2022 4:54 AM
#97
WVM said: That was really a great episode...what do you think ? There were many scenes that give me CHILLS when Togashi clashed with that Weird Smile GUY Also i think that Ashito will be turned to a midfielder cause they are USUALLY the PLAYMAKERS So I think FUKUDA turned him to be a defender so that he can inbuilt both the characteristic of a FORWARD and also a DEFENDER which will make him a perfect MIDFIELDER and as a result the PLAYERMAKER and OTOMO's weird secene The role of fullback has changed a lot over the past 15 years or so, but a lot of them are being used as play makers (the prime example being Trent Alexander-Arnold), I think moving Aoi into the midfield would not be a good idea, his weak technique would become much more of a handicap there. He can easily fill the playmaker role as a left back, and cut into the center if he really needs to at some point. |
Jul 18, 2022 5:04 AM
#98
I don't like how Aoi being treated either, BUT it is not special to Ao Ashi. Remember when Hinata weren't accepted to the youth camp, not given food or shelter or included in the training? Having need to bike back and forth to the camp every day? None of this is "right" but they are all realities of going pro. There are a lot of bullying and "tough love" and sometimes it ends some kids' careers. I disagree with the whole practice completely, but this is a realistic depiction of pro sports. |
Jul 18, 2022 8:26 AM
#99
Ashito still hasn't fully accepted to be a defender. The day he fully embraces this role/position, he'll flourish to great heights. I love how Aoi somehow makes up for the role of a defender, even though he's just an amateur. I think in the future, he'll become the iron defence of the team that Fukuda envisions. Was that Takeshima's gf? Anri sure takes soccer pretty seriously. I hope by the end of the series, we get to see her start forming her own team. I wonder what they mean by "Playmaker"? |
Jul 18, 2022 8:29 AM
#100
Gah Dayum 😳😳😳 gonna read the manga after the anime finishes airing |
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