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(Anime only) so many people r telling that aot will go downgrade after chapter 124 or something ig so does it get really bad like game of thrones or it just little downgrade and why do u hate the ending so much

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Jan 31, 2022 7:49 AM
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Please no spoilers for anime only does aot will really go downhill after 124 I mean in a way like got or just a little bit and why do u hate the ending so much and if mappa which I hope they will stretch out the ending to make it more sense will it be better( no spoilers please)
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Jan 31, 2022 7:53 AM
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how can i not spoiler you with this kind of question?

just don't care for this idiots and just enjoy your series.


btw i think the ending is okay, not perfect but satisfying.
specially with Isayamas extra pages.
Jan 31, 2022 7:56 AM
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Lots of retconning going on, pushing an incestuous relationship, turning women into token prizes, disregarding plot points such as Annie's crimes(unlike Reiner, who gets shit on for everything) just so Isayama can have his self-insert, Armin, live out his life with his waifu.
You also have scenes where Zeke's rock throws kill noone whereas before that they killed the entire Scout regiment together with its Commander, Erwin. It's all a big, dirty mess when compared to the brilliance of previous chapters.

Oh and after everything it turns out that King Floch was always right, I'll leave that up for your own interpretation.
Jan 31, 2022 8:00 AM
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They leave the world in a terrible state. People complain about the Code Geass ending when that made more sense than anything here with it's flaws. The characters come off as morons or were completely out of character. That is about all I can really say without spoilers. Honestly as an anime only just go into it yourself. Every time I hear something has a bad ending or bad arc whatever I just see for myself. Don't let us persuade you.
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Jan 31, 2022 8:12 AM
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Its goated....
If you genuinely love this show will respect the ending and love it also if u dont waana get spoiled just wait and see the anime you'll make your won opinion..
It wasn't perfect but it's a great conclusion for the show....
Jan 31, 2022 8:17 AM
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And yes right here folks,
GONNA BE THE BIRTH OF ANOTHER TOXIC THREAD
Can't wt for haters to fk it up lets go!!
Jan 31, 2022 8:18 AM
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How do you expect us to answer your question without spoiling it? I don't know how to put the spoiler filter so I'll just hit enter a couple of times. Don't read the messages below if you don't wish to spoil the show for yourself










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Bruh literally said everything in title lmao

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Jan 31, 2022 8:22 AM
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I thought the chapters between 124 and 129 were fine, not peak AoT, but still solid enough. It peaks again at 130-131, and then the last 8 chapters are up for debate.
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All I'm gonna say that it won't be nearly as bad as GoT. Final season turned into a sitcom xD

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Jan 31, 2022 8:25 AM

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Don't worry, the cries mostly come from a loud minority who got butthurt because their horrible headcanon didn't come true.
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/

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Jan 31, 2022 8:30 AM

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Peak Aot is chaptahs 126,137,138 and 139. I don't consider other epidas or chaptahs peak fiction imo(in my onion).
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Jan 31, 2022 8:30 AM
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Just wait for the anime to finish and judge it for yourself bro. Some people hate the ending some people like it, it’s subjective.
Jan 31, 2022 8:31 AM
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don't worry , it is above than good , don't listen to some dumbass who telling you this , just watch it and judge it by yourself
Jan 31, 2022 8:32 AM
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Sujal234 said:
GamoYeager01 said:
Please no spoilers for anime only does aot will really go downhill after 124 I mean in a way like got or just a little bit and why do u hate the ending so much and if mappa which I hope they will stretch out the ending to make it more sense will it be better( no spoilers please)
It obviously does not go like game of thrones like but it goes little like regular/ average because since that chp almost all the suspence/mystery is totally revealed so that's it.
but still it feels really good to see it
Jan 31, 2022 8:33 AM
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GamoYeager01 said:
Please no spoilers for anime only does aot will really go downhill after 124 I mean in a way like got or just a little bit and

Things calm down a little after chapter 124 as the story starts building up for its final climax. But it's still as good as ever until chapter 134. 135-138 are a little bit controversial, 137 in particular. The real disappointment was 139, the final chapter. So up until the final episode, possibly the final two episodes, there is no downgrade to worry about.

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why do u hate the ending so much and if mappa which I hope they will stretch out the ending to make it more sense will it be better( no spoilers please)

I disliked the ending because it felt very underwhelming and anticlimactic. Some parts also didn't really seem to make sense, but because the ending was so underwhelming, I didn't even feel inclined to think about it. The ending made me just want to move on and not think about AoT at all.

Jan 31, 2022 8:33 AM

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aotisgoat23 said:
And yes right here folks,
GONNA BE THE BIRTH OF ANOTHER TOXIC THREAD
Can't wt for haters to fk it up lets go!!
There is one already, several posts above yours. :)

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How do you expect us to answer your question without spoiling it? I don't know how to put the spoiler filter so I'll just hit enter a couple of times. Don't read the messages below if you don't wish to spoil the show for yourself

I disagree. These opinions actually come from people who are either fine with the ending or straight up love it, hence hoping that the anime would fix the issue with pacing, etc. Whereas the haters are whining for different reasons altogether.
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/

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Jan 31, 2022 8:36 AM
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I said it before and I will say it again. Anime-onlies are going to be more tolerant of the ending than manga readers. A huge part of the shitshow that followed the ending can be attributed to the absurdly huge amounts of ending theories manga readers used to theorize. Unlike GoT which had a bad ending coming since season 5, Isayama just happened to decide a certain take for the ending just at the very end "more like the last 8 chapters, everything before that was just great" which didn't satisfy a lot of fans.

I bet you, if the manga ending gets animated, anime-onlies are gonna be like: "Eh? Was that it? It was not so bad as manga readers made it sound to be!!". That's because manga readers are really overreacting, yeah the ending is not something as a "masterpiece", but some people found it at least satisfying. Personally, I would prefer an anime original ending under Isayama's supervision, but I won't have high hopes for this.
Jan 31, 2022 8:44 AM
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Tbh I'm more on the negative side for how I see the series but it doesn't really get that bad. I mean, something like Demon Slayer is doing well so I'm sure people will like what comes next
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Jan 31, 2022 8:44 AM
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Relax it isn't that bad as GOT S8 (hard to find something that can be worse than GOT S8 tbh) In term of quality I would more compare it to GOT S5 and S6 (majority of the upcoming chapters) and S7(ending's chapters)
Jan 31, 2022 8:53 AM
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There is nothing downgrade in chapter 124,125,127 (phenomenal),128,129,130,131. They are clowns. But you'll see it yourself
Jan 31, 2022 8:57 AM

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The ending is very average. If you combine what is a masterclass of storytelling with an average ending then the ending will obviously seem even worse. At least in my experience I expected AOT to break my expectations like it always did but instead it did exactly what I expected (Or maybe it's unexpected since I always expected the unexpected from AOT๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”).

The last chapter was also rushed af. Because of that many things seemed confusing or seemingly out of nowhere to me at least but after my reread most things made sense. My biggest gripe are certain things that were unnecessary, weren't elaborated further on and had no good payoff.

Many manga readers also had like 100 theories and headcanons that were wrong which probably added to the hate of the ending. Imo they're overreacting a bit tho. If you go into it with an open mind then the ending won't ruin AOT for you I think. Even though I think the ending wasn't that good I still have AOT as a 10/10 since you rlly can't deny the greatness of what came before it imo.
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Jan 31, 2022 8:59 AM

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Storytelling suffers in general. But there are also objective plot holes, and plot contrivances. Just let me point out one small thing:
Jan 31, 2022 9:02 AM
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Storytelling suffers in general. But there are also objective plot holes, and plot contrivances. Just let me point out one small thing:


It is not: Foreshadowed in two occasions 1 or 2 years before. name falco=falcon, general asking if they ever had those sort of titans in chapter 93, also if you eat zeke you inherit the beast titan. Xaver's titan was a ram, Zeke's a monkey, falco had beast titan DNA in his system + took another titan. All the conditions were met for him. But I guess you do you
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imbAF said:
Xilver said:
Storytelling suffers in general. But there are also objective plot holes, and plot contrivances. Just let me point out one small thing:



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Jan 31, 2022 9:33 AM

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@GamoYeager01 after ch 123 things are gonna cool down for a bit. Chapters 124 to 129 are mostly 7/10 chapters or less. But ch 130-131 are a solid 10. And after that everything just goes downhill.

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Peak Aot is chaptahs 126,137,138 and 139. I don't consider other epidas or chaptahs peak fiction imo(in my onion).
lmao, liked your humour.
Jan 31, 2022 9:43 AM
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To keep it blunt and spoilerless:

Yes, the story will go downhill. We still have a few amazing episodes ahead of us though, and part 2 will end before the more serious problems would arise. That being said, it's nowhere near as bad as many manga readers make it out to be. Isayama definitely did not pull off a Code Geass level, virtually perfect ending, but it's not something that'd ruin the essence of the show and the long and amazing road we had through these 80 or so episodes.

I'm my opinion, it's not a good ending but one I can accept and be content with. Attack on Titan was way too amazing of an adventure for me, enough so to entirely overlook and forgive the very messy final arc.
Jan 31, 2022 10:02 AM
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To keep it blunt and spoilerless:

Yes, the story will go downhill. We still have a few amazing episodes ahead of us though, and part 2 will end before the more serious problems would arise. That being said, it's nowhere near as bad as many manga readers make it out to be. Isayama definitely did not pull off a Code Geass level, virtually perfect ending, but it's not something that'd ruin the essence of the show and the long and amazing road we had through these 80 or so episodes.

I'm my opinion, it's not a good ending but one I can accept and be content with. Attack on Titan was way too amazing of an adventure for me, enough so to entirely overlook and forgive the very messy final arc.


what is downhill about hmm..125 or 127, mind if you tell me, just so I can understand this narrative ? Genuinely curious
Jan 31, 2022 10:03 AM
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Now this is more like it, this is the salt I needed ....numnumnum
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imbAF said:
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Now this is more like it, this is the salt I needed ....numnumnum

Me calling you a clown is not salt, just the reality. But if you saw salt there then you're yourself salty as fuck. It's been almost a year since the ending, move the fuck on.
Jan 31, 2022 10:18 AM
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Chapter wise I would say:

124-125 are pretty solid chapters and well received within community.
126 is very debatable and controversial, however, 127 kind of fixed it. 127-129 are decently received chapters, but nothing to be considered as downhill just yet.
130-131 are goated chapters.
132-134 are again solid chapters and are very well received amongst community.
However, 135 onward is where you will find most problematic chapters with 137-139 being the trio of chapters that inflicted so much damage upon readers converting the most hardcore fans into most hardcore haters in a matter of 3 chapters.
I would say very questionable writing from Isayama literally with plot holes, things making no sense, things just happening without any consequences.
Anyway as far as this particular season is concerned, I would say you don't have to worry about things going down hill. There won't be downhill at least till last 5 chapters are adapted which would probably be the matter of last 3 episodes or last half of the movie depending on which way they decide to adapt post 131 part. And then there is increase in no. of readers buying into the idea that manga and Anime timelines are different/mirrored(?) timelines and anime will go full AOE with what most of the disappointed fan base considers kino ending.
Also most importantly, don't make opinions or biases based on what others are telling you, entire season is ahead of you, watch it for yourself and then make any rational conclusion for yourself.
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Jan 31, 2022 10:58 AM

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Yea aside from chapters 130 and 131 there was a big downgrade after 124. Idk how to explain why I hate the ending without bringing up spoilers, so let's just say it ruined the entire show for me.

Jan 31, 2022 11:34 AM

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The ending has flaws regarding execution. If they fix that in the anime it will be perfect.
Jan 31, 2022 11:37 AM
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Xilver said:
imbAF said:


Now this is more like it, this is the salt I needed ....numnumnum

Me calling you a clown is not salt, just the reality. But if you saw salt there then you're yourself salty as fuck. It's been almost a year since the ending, move the fuck on.


What did I ever said about the ending? wtf? You have reading comprehension problems bro? I merely responded to your supposedly "plot hole". You don't evne know how to use the word properly. The word you were searching for is 'plot convenience ' . And there is no literary fiction that doesn't use it. xD
Jan 31, 2022 11:39 AM
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Don't worry, the cries mostly come from a loud minority who got butthurt because their horrible headcanon didn't come true.

If the people who didn't like the ending were really the minority, AoT manga score would go up after the ending, not down.


It's 8.58 how is that low? Exactly, all the 1s and it dropped from 8.78 to 8.58. Literal minority lol
Jan 31, 2022 11:46 AM

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The main issue with the ending is that it was rushed (which was not Isayama's fault, its usually the publishers who decide the date a manga has to end).
I feel like a lot of manga readers who hated it didn't even understand the ending or they were just salty because it didn't go the way they wanted. Its honestly not that bad, but not a masterpiece. They might change a few things in the anime that can improve it, we'll see.
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The ending was so bad that it ruined all the parts of the manga I liked in retrospect. My favorite chapters were the ones the anime is adapting right now and I feel nothing watching it. I just can't help thinking about how pathetic Cuckren is.
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Chapter wise I would say:

124-125 are pretty solid chapters and well received within community.
126 is very debatable and controversial, however, 127 kind of fixed it. 127-129 are decently received chapters, but nothing to be considered as downhill just yet.
130-131 are goated chapters.
132-134 are again solid chapters and are very well received amongst community.
However, 135 onward is where you will find most problematic chapters with 137-139 being the trio of chapters that inflicted so much damage upon readers converting the most hardcore fans into most hardcore haters in a matter of 3 chapters.
I would say very questionable writing from Isayama literally with plot holes, things making no sense, things just happening without any consequences.
Anyway as far as this particular season is concerned, I would say you don't have to worry about things going down hill. There won't be downhill at least till last 5 chapters are adapted which would probably be the matter of last 3 episodes or last half of the movie depending on which way they decide to adapt post 131 part. And then there is increase in no. of readers buying into the idea that manga and Anime timelines are different/mirrored(?) timelines and anime will go full AOE with what most of the disappointed fan base considers kino ending.
Also most importantly, don't make opinions or biases based on what others are telling you, entire season is ahead of you, watch it for yourself and then make any rational conclusion for yourself.
I agree with this post (But for me 121-123 are goated as well)
Jan 31, 2022 1:24 PM
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No. It would be a masterclass till ch 131. After that it definitely downgrades a little and I really liked the ending except that it was rushed. Considering no other ending makes sense
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For this szn: 117-123 great, 124-125 decent, 126-127 garbage, 128-129 decent with garbage moments, 130-131 great.

For what's left: 132-134 decent, 135-139 garbage.
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You cant really ask this question, and get an answer that doesn’t spoil you.

I’ll just say this:
There are still amazinf parts ahead, but there are a lot of things that drag AoT down after chapter 123 (S4P2 Episode 5)

I and others dont like the ending. Wont say why, since I’ll spoil as little as possible.

Enjoy it while it’s good.
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KneelBeforeMe said:
For this szn: 117-123 great, 124-125 decent, 126-127 garbage, 128-129 decent with garbage moments, 130-131 great.

For what's left: 132-134 decent, 135-139 garbage.



Whats garbage about 135?
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People complaining about the rumbling arc are usually yeagerists who hate Mikasa, Armin, etc. I am not even joking, a big part of manga readers supported fascists like Floch. Titanfolk keeps calling Mikasa a dog and things like this, very toxic behavior.

All chapters are good, only chapter 139 is rushed. The last chapter had great ideas but bad execution sadly. But the overall arc is good. The only other mixed is 126 (because of that storyline envolving that titan) but other than that all great. You literally wont notice the quality drop unless you support Eren and the yeagerists.
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the ending chapter is just mediocre after all the build up and the extra 8 pages of it makes a dangerous political message for a fiction that is considered realistic by many
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deg said:
the ending chapter is just mediocre after all the build up and the extra 8 pages of it makes a dangerous political message for a fiction that is considered realistic by many
Dangerous political message is most manga readers and ending haters supporting Floch and Genocide lmao
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I said it before and I will say it again. Anime-onlies are going to be more tolerant of the ending than manga readers. A huge part of the shitshow that followed the ending can be attributed to the absurdly huge amounts of ending theories manga readers used to theorize. Unlike GoT which had a bad ending coming since season 5, Isayama just happened to decide a certain take for the ending just at the very end "more like the last 8 chapters, everything before that was just great" which didn't satisfy a lot of fans.

I bet you, if the manga ending gets animated, anime-onlies are gonna be like: "Eh? Was that it? It was not so bad as manga readers made it sound to be!!". That's because manga readers are really overreacting, yeah the ending is not something as a "masterpiece", but some people found it at least satisfying. Personally, I would prefer an anime original ending under Isayama's supervision, but I won't have high hopes for this.


Exactly this. Another reason I think the Manga ending was more controversial, was because a very large part of the Manga readers were Yeagerists. And wanted
and were pissed off when that didn't happen.

Among the anime onlies, I'm already seeing a more people against Erens actions compared to Manga readers.
So they will have less of a problem with the ending.
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The ending isn’t bad per se. it’s definitely not the greatest but not the worst either.

The biggest problem with it is that the manga readers themselves out so much time into creating theories of how Aot was gonna end and spoiler alert: none of those theories were correct. I’m also pretty sure that the more time passes by the more people will come to see the ending as not that bad or at least not as shit as they thought it was. It simply wasn’t what they were expecting to happen. I do agree that they could’ve taken more time with it though. The endgame is actually really good, what leads up to it needed more time, a better explanation. I’m pretty sure that the anime will deliver that to us so you don’t have to worry about it.


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Ending is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Especially not GoT season 8 level.
Infact it's not really bad at all.
It's just not good as what came before.
There are some plot conveniences, and one particular subplot in the last chapter that came out of nowhere.

But for the most parts, it remains true to it's characters and it's themes.
If it's expanded on a little bit and a few things are taken out, the ending can be really good.
And even if it's not, it will still be an okay ending.

The way I see it. The ending will be more like Evangelion ending. Both the original run and End of Evangelion. In that it will be very divisive.
Some will hate it. Some will love it. Some will just apathatic.
But it will not take away from the greatness of what came before.
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For this szn: 117-123 great, 124-125 decent, 126-127 garbage, 128-129 decent with garbage moments, 130-131 great.

For what's left: 132-134 decent, 135-139 garbage.


no way you just called 127 garbage
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Zprotu said:
KneelBeforeMe said:
For this szn: 117-123 great, 124-125 decent, 126-127 garbage, 128-129 decent with garbage moments, 130-131 great.

For what's left: 132-134 decent, 135-139 garbage.


no way you just called 127 garbage
Yeagerists just hate Armin, the alliance, call Mikasa a dog, etc. Are u really surprised lmao
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