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| Such a deep episode, and that ending mmmmmm. I do fear that with what was talked about within today's ep, that something is gonna happen with Vivy by the end of this series. I really feel something fucked up is gonna happen, and I dunno if my heart can take it. |
| Vivy's starting to crack... Hegar said: Then why couldn't they just do that to run the island? Why did they need Grace and her robot body, when they could just copy her mind and it would be the same thing Because after Estella defied all the expectations about possible AI's behavior, the scientists building the island wanted an AI as symbolic and representative of goodwill as the purehearted Grace to run their out of this world experimental facility. Yes, it's possible that she wasn't personally needed to manage the island and it's also plausible that another Sister could've handled the same job (well, I'm still not sure about that) but you know how humans are, right? It was obviously an unproductive choice but it wasn't meaningless. |
| Really enjoying this series |
| Saeki's blood in one hand, Grace's in the other, the AI supposed to bring happiness to everyone ruined the future of both with her actions, absolutely heartbreaking finale to an already outstanding episode, this show keeps amazing me. |
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| Just Perfection. Insane how good it is. |
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| What an episode. Already predicted that Grace and Saeki wouldn't get a happy ending, I did not expect the way it turned out. Not only was the real Grace beyond saving, the Grace standing next to him was a copy. Vivy absolutely destroyed her in one hit to the face. Impressive. The whole flight sequence on a transformed Matsumoto wasn't the best stuff this show had shown us so far, but the moment Vivy stabbed the core of the island, the real Grace was pretty good again. The final scenes were really grim, when Saeki was standing at the altar, I already had a feeling that he was not going to walk away from there. The moment turns around and walks away, he shoots himself. The scene of Vivy having blue "blood" on her right hand and Saeki's blood on her left, left a really big impact. I wonder what was going through that AI program when she saw her hands covered in 2 types of blood, seemed to me she was pretty much freaking out. Also all these face close ups again, WHY THEY SO DROPDEAD GORGEOUS! |
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| Heartbreaking ending to this arc. Grace was destroyed, then Saeki shoots himself. In the end, Vivy could neither save both of them. How can she still continue to bring happiness to people? This episode brought a tear to my eye... I was truly in awe with the animation during the flight sequence, and all the face close up shots of Vivy are always absolutely beautiful. Loving the details every single time I see those close up faces. Maybe the next arc will also be just as sad. :( |
| Was an okay plan from the doctor, but dumb saying that would fight thousands of robots. I want that self-confidence Now the terrorist will become friend. But still strange need to refurbish Grace than build a new one specially for the mission. The suicide was for the best. Hopefully next episode will have an Ai to overpower Vivy. |
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| Every episode makes it more and more obvious that Vivy is being played and is actually the one causing the inevitable disaster. Almost as if her AI buddy is literally working for the AIs. Really makes you think |
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| someone mind explaining what Metal Float is all about? and why Grace is turning into a bad/harmful AI for humans? and wtf the anti-AI group was doing on the island? |
| fuck this really is making me feel like Neir all over again keep feeling bad for the robots ,that ending was Cruel to VIVY and is also challenging her very own mission |
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| If Re:Zero didn’t air this year, Vivy would be anime of the year easy. This episode left me in shock with how, godlike, depressing, and beautiful this show is. |
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| The best episode so far. Omg, I love you Japan. One thing I love about anime is these action scenes with insert songs. Really loved this episode. RIP my spine. |
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Spicelit said: Don't get me wrong I love re zero If Re:Zero didn’t air this year, Vivy would be anime of the year easy. This episode left me in shock with how, godlike, depressing, and beautiful this show is. infact it is one of my favourite isekai but This is better that re zero S2 P2 , and AOT S4 P1 will be anime of the year |
| The best episode so far. But still, having an ultra-realistic(?) scene of Vivy face every single time is a little bit too much. Will_do_it_later said: someone mind explaining what Metal Float is all about? and why Grace is turning into a bad/harmful AI for humans? and wtf the anti-AI group was doing on the island? Metal Float can be said to be an AI factory producing AI and replacement parts. Grace became harmful because she tried to fulfil her new mission which was protecting Metal Float (from the virus). There was no mention of why the anti-AI was there but I guess they just wanted to destroy the island because you know, it's a giant AI island which accelerates AI growth. |
CDSHT said: Grace became harmful because she tried to fulfil her new mission which was protecting Metal Float (from the virus). what virus though? |
Zean_9435 said: Spicelit said: Don't get me wrong I love re zero If Re:Zero didn’t air this year, Vivy would be anime of the year easy. This episode left me in shock with how, godlike, depressing, and beautiful this show is. infact it is one of my favourite isekai but This is better that re zero S2 P2 , and AOT S4 P1 will be anime of the year I personally prefer Re:Zero by far, it is my favorite anime of all time so S2P2 is already AOTY for me, but still Vivy is also really good so far, to be expected since both were written by Tappei Nagatsuki the goat, I wouldn't say Vivy is better in the story and character department because Re:Zero is still his main work and his masterpiece but that's just my opinion. |
GilgameshuuMay 1, 2021 9:14 PM
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GGcc78 said: It was just not confusing at all, I don’t know what you are talking about. Of course animation is going to be better because WitStudio is animating this. I’ll admit that Re:Zero’s arc 4 dragged a little, but it was all for the better. Yes the music is better, but that’s because this is an over-the-top, dramatic, sci-fi idol anime, so of course it’s going to be like that. Re:Zero has better characters, world building, drama, and is a better overall psychological anime.Spicelit said: The most recent season of Re:Zero wasn't that good; if anything it was a confusing mess. Animation, story telling, music, none of it was as good as what were getting in Vivy.If Re:Zero didn’t air this year, Vivy would be anime of the year easy. This episode left me in shock with how, godlike, depressing, and beautiful this show is. |
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Gilgameshuu said: I personally prefer season 2 part 1 it heavily focus on subaru and it has more thrilling and suspance moment, one the other part 2 was very boring with all that flashback and subaru was out of the picture for majority of time no deaths nothing, Zean_9435 said: Don't get me wrong I love re zero infact it is one of my favourite isekai but This is better that re zero S2 P2 , and AOT S4 P1 will be anime of the year I personally prefer Re:Zero by far, it is my favorite anime of all time so S2P2 is already AOTY for me, but still Vivy is also really good so far, to be expected since both were written by Tappei Nagatsuki the goat, I wouldn't say Vivy is better in the story and character department because Re:Zero is still his main work and his masterpiece but that's just my opinion. And I think vivy is better in term of maintaining consistency throughout the story it doesn't make you feel bored and vivy's animation is one another level comparing to re zero which have very low quality animation especially in season 2, Vivy have amazing action sequences and music too |
GGcc78 said: Spicelit said: ReZero as a whole maybe . The adaptation that led to ReZero season 2 Part 2, no. It was a mess and a drop in quality from prior seasons. It was just not confusing at all, I don’t know what you are talking about. Of course animation is going to be better because WitStudio is animating this. I’ll admit that Re:Zero’s arc 4 dragged a little, but it was all for the better. Yes the music is better, but that’s because this is an over-the-top, dramatic, sci-fi idol anime, so of course it’s going to be like that. Re:Zero has better characters, world building, drama, and is a better overall psychological anime. I would even argue that Tappei is doing a better job with character development for Vivy in these first six episodes than he did for Subaru in the first two novels of Re:Zero. Now that's a bit much imo, Re:Zero is still Tappei's finest and more polished work personally, just because you get things faster doesn't mean it's good conversely just because things go slowly doesn't mean it's bad. He just spent more time in building the world and the other characters, he can't solely focus on Subaru alone as oppose to Vivy where she takes the center stage of the series and there's not much other characters to build up on also it's an original with a limited episode count, so they have to cut the less important things and focus solely on important key moments especially with Vivy's 100-year plot and while that may be good and make things more consistent I also like slower episodes that are there to give extra characterization and worldbuilding, also about your claim about development, I don't think we've seen any development with Vivy on par with the most iconic moment of Volume 2, that is Subaru's cliffjump. |
GilgameshuuMay 1, 2021 10:03 PM
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Rose_Player said: It's getting worse every episode. wtf is this show lol It's getting to make me feel worse, because this anime original shocked me alot. I have never seen any anime original this so good. This is like Yoko Taro levels of storytelling while the music and animation is breathtaking. This anime left me in a worse state (depressed), and imo if the anime ends really well, we can call this a masterpiece. |
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Will_do_it_later said: CDSHT said: Grace became harmful because she tried to fulfil her new mission which was protecting Metal Float (from the virus). what virus though? Remember the red thing Vivy injected to shut down Metal Float? The one the scientist gave her, maybe virus is not the correct term but for me, it is xD. |
GGcc78 said: Nah, Season 1 was better, but season 2 wasn’t essentially a step down from it. And no, Subaru’s character development is godlike no matter how far back you go. Season 2 wasn’t a mess, you probably just weren’t following all the dialogue. Anyway, all of Re:Zero is a masterpiece, that’s my opinion.Spicelit said: ReZero as a whole maybe . The adaptation that led to ReZero season 2 Part 2, no. It was a mess and a drop in quality from prior seasons. It was just not confusing at all, I don’t know what you are talking about. Of course animation is going to be better because WitStudio is animating this. I’ll admit that Re:Zero’s arc 4 dragged a little, but it was all for the better. Yes the music is better, but that’s because this is an over-the-top, dramatic, sci-fi idol anime, so of course it’s going to be like that. Re:Zero has better characters, world building, drama, and is a better overall psychological anime. I would even argue that Tappei is doing a better job with character development for Vivy in these first six episodes than he did for Subaru in the first two novels of Re:Zero. |
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| What the actual hell did i just watch? It literally hit deep, my god this episode shows lots of emotions. With every episode it gets even better. |
| Dayum that was great When the OP song played within the episode it was glorious. Also they snapped on that animation this episode Surprised the guy killed himself at the end there. |
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Rose_Player said: wtf with you lol, want to gain some attention here or what ?It's getting worse every episode. wtf is this show lol |
| Is it the right thing to do even if it means someone somewhere will be wronged by it? A question you should always ask yourself before taking any action. What's right for you doesn't mean it will sit right with others. That's why people build their own worlds to make it come true. But if everyone starts doing that the current world would not have anything left. Vivy came to a realization after the saddening end of this episode. Next we're going the amnesia route I guess. The way this show is progressing really feels like its gonna end one of a kind masterpiece. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| that was in fucking sane. so ai mission's can be re-written? thats pretty scary. an ai could be an angelic nurse at first then turn into a battle machine after getting a new mission. animation is great as always, the scene where matsumoto was building a bike for vivy to ride in was great. and this scene, "im not diva. im vivy, vivy is an ai who will destroy other ai's to change the destructive future" is my favorite scene from this whole series so far. that last part with her having ai blood in one hand and human blood in the other was great too |
GGcc78 said: You just don’t get it do you? He goes from being a complete loser to becoming Emilia’s knight and one of the most respected people there. He does so by suffering a shit ton (like Vivy but more fleshed out so therefore it’s better) and repeating the same events over and over again; grinding out this seemingly endless struggle. When he grows a pair, he’s able to do amazing things (like in season 2 when he makes a contract with Beatrice) unlike most of us. It shows how great of a person he actually is and how he could’ve been in his previous life. Like I said, it’s my opinion.Spicelit said: Nah, Season 1 was better, but season 2 wasn’t essentially a step down from it. And no, Subaru’s character development is godlike no matter how far back you go. Season 2 wasn’t a mess, you probably just weren’t following all the dialogue. Anyway, all of Re:Zero is a masterpiece, that’s my opinion. Spicelit said: How was it godlike? Nah, Season 1 was better, but season 2 wasn’t essentially a step down from it. And no, Subaru’s character development is godlike no matter how far back you go. Season 2 wasn’t a mess, you probably just weren’t following all the dialogue. Anyway, all of Re:Zero is a masterpiece, that’s my opinion. Stilted animation and never ending flashbacks is pretty messy story telling to me. |
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| My Waifu is gone, and I'm gonna be gone. :lol -Tatsuya I bet vivy is going to make the worst timeline thanks to that doll/cube. |
| 4th times getting signature banned wtf |
| Is odd the scientists didn't re-produce Sisters and have to appoint Grace specifically for the role. Since lacking info of where Estella was produced from. Even so Grace replica could have the duplicated AI experience, but whoever organization took Grace didn't even do any data backup. Vivy also killed Grace directly without thinking to severe the unit first hand my mind went WHAT.. but she is not there to save any AI. The scene Matsumoto convert to hovercraft is cool and farewell to 205. Not sure how to think about the whole island was part of Grace explanation but I kind of had weak feeling Doc would go out like that, seen it in movies but didn't think he actually did it. Entire episode gone by so fast this time. Oh that Toak agent, gonna see him again soon lol |
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