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When I started watching this season I didn't had any opinion and the name "MAPPA" was completely new to me and I was upset that wit isn't doing the animation but now after watching their work I have to say they are doing a great job, especially the keeping Jujutsu kaisen in mind, My overall image of mappa is that they are a good studio

But

A show like aot doesn't deserve a good studio or great animation, it deserve something Perfect, when it comes to AOT, something less than perfect is an insult to the show and that's why I think if the wit dropped it for some reason it should've gone to ufotable

Now m not a great fan of ufotable and I have only seen one anime that I can remember that ufotable made and that is DEMON SLAYER, in my opinion demon slayer is nothing special it's just an everage written shonen anime but the thing that made it amazing is it's animation and if ufotable can make an everage show this memorable than just imagine what AOT could be
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Jan 18, 2021 2:29 AM
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Dude it seems like every other fanbase wants chadtable to do their show.
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Jan 18, 2021 2:32 AM
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Dude it seems like every other fanbase wants chadtable to do their show.


their shows are so pretty,massive part of why KNY got massive sucesss.

and since we're stuck with CGI,i'd take ufotable CGI+amazing animation

literally 0 negatives
Jan 18, 2021 2:33 AM
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No,ufotable is only for more colorful anime
Jan 18, 2021 2:34 AM
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Ye, true... That's waht I was thinking about. They could've made this season better with visuals, but I don't what happened behind the scenes. It might be that Ufotable wasn't able to handle this series
Jan 18, 2021 2:35 AM
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Guys he said choice
He really said choice
I can't stop laughing
You really think there was a choice
MAPPA was the only studio that wanted to take this shit
There was not any other choice
Also ufotable is busy with counting the income of Demon Slayer movie
Jan 18, 2021 2:38 AM
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I like to think that Ufotable takes their time maybe? IDK if they did honestly, the production committee controls everything, rushing things. all they care about is cash, which is sad, but understandable because it is business.

also, a lot of studios also turned down the offer. only MAPPA is willing to handle the behemoth of a franchise that is AOT.
Jan 18, 2021 2:39 AM
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"Something less than perfect is an insult to AoT"

Jesus Fuck I'm out.
Jan 18, 2021 2:42 AM
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And another one of these dumbass threads
Jan 18, 2021 2:44 AM
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They didnt had luxury of "Choice"
Jan 18, 2021 2:46 AM
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No one would bats an eye for AOT after the amazing run Studio Wit had for 3 season. This is another OPM S2 "take it or leave it" situation where no one wants the burden to carry what the older studio did.

Also, UFOtable were successful was because they planned well with each series they take on and didn't just take every cake in the table like MAPPA did. Don't get me wrong, MAPPA is amazing, but unfortunately MAPPA are giving 100% on JJK, but only 60% on AOT. And honestly, i'm happy with Chainsaw Man fans since they probably gonna have 110% MAPPA treatment since both AOT and JJK are ending this season.

If it wasn't for MAPPA, we would wait for another 3-4 years for S4 and probably with a way worse studio like what OPM S2 got or SDS S3.
Jan 18, 2021 2:47 AM

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Aot doesn't really fit with Ufotable. They usually go for a more flashy, highly saturated eye candy visual effects which doesn't really fit.

The problem is not MAPPA. Mappa can perfectly make this season as well without CGI. The thing is, they didn't have enough time. The schedule for this show was beyond horrible and it being 16 episodes definitely doesn't help. Also pandemic really fucked up the production as well.

Blame production commitee for this retarded schedule. Blame Kodensha and Production IG. Blame the suits, not the over-worked and underpaid employees.
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Jan 18, 2021 2:49 AM
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"Something less than perfect is an insult to AoT" lol
Aot isn't profitable or popular in japan as before. Even Season 3 Parts 1 & 2 weren't able to restore AOT to its former glory.
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Just another loser with a bait thread. Nothing to see here lol.
Jan 18, 2021 2:51 AM
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Mathi786 said:
When I started watching this season I didn't had any opinion and the name "MAPPA" was completely new to me and I was upset that wit isn't doing the animation but now after watching their work I have to say they are doing a great job, especially the keeping Jujutsu kaisen in mind, My overall image of mappa is that they are a good studio

But

A show like aot doesn't deserve a good studio or great animation, it deserve something Perfect, when it comes to AOT, something less than perfect is an insult to the show and that's why I think if the wit dropped it for some reason it should've gone to ufotable

Now m not a great fan of ufotable and I have only seen one anime that I can remember that ufotable made and that is DEMON SLAYER, in my opinion demon slayer is nothing special it's just an everage written shonen anime but the thing that made it amazing is it's animation and if ufotable can make an everage show this memorable than just imagine what AOT could be

here is a fact: Mappa would do better than Wit if they had 1.5 years time to produce instead of 8-10 months. Take it because its true. They asked the comitee to delay it to next year but yeah we knew this
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue
Jan 18, 2021 2:53 AM
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No one would bats an eye for AOT after the amazing run Studio Wit had for 3 season. This is another OPM S2 "take it or leave it" situation where no one wants the burden to carry what the older studio did.

Also, UFOtable were successful was because they planned well with each series they take on and didn't just take every cake in the table like MAPPA did. Don't get me wrong, MAPPA is amazing, but unfortunately MAPPA are giving 100% on JJK, but only 60% on AOT. And honestly, i'm happy with Chainsaw Man fans since they probably gonna have 110% MAPPA treatment since both AOT and JJK are ending this season.

If it wasn't for MAPPA, we would wait for another 3-4 years for S4 and probably with a way worse studio like what OPM S2 got or SDS S3.
JJK has nothing to do with AoT. Different teas´ms and schedule. They didnt give jjk more ressources, hence the budget for aot s4 is the highest of all seasons but its the time that is lacking
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue
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THEY DIDN’T HAVE TIME, CGI TAKES LESS TIME
idk man :/
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I don't think even ufotable would have been able to do an amazing job with this schedule, mappa isn't the problem.
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Just another loser with a bait thread. Nothing to see here lol.


I honestly don't get you people who want low quality entertainment. Why shill for subpar animation honestly?
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We should talk about things that are possible, Ufotable would need to drop thier projects ( Kimetsu no Yaiba movie, Heavens Fell movie and probabbly 2 season of KNY ) to make SNK and we have to remember KNY in Japan is more popular than all other anime exist together for some reason.
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sRazor96 said:
Dimmadeezy said:
Just another loser with a bait thread. Nothing to see here lol.


I honestly don't get you people who want low quality entertainment. Why shill for subpar animation honestly?


Because I have enough of a brain to understand that AoT is about the plot, and if you’re only there for perfect animation and fight scenes, you’ve completely missed the point of the show. There were one or two moments that looked a little janky, but we got that with WIT studio and their awful CGI colossal Titan as well. Other than that, the CGI actually allows for more fluidity and movement from the titans instead of us getting still shots every 5 seconds. Not to mention the production committee wanted this season finished at the same time as the manga, so the schedule was 8 months compared to the literal YEARS that WIT studio had to animate the first 3 seasons. WIT was offered to do the final season and dropped the show because they knew they couldn’t finish it in time without absolutely butchering it. I’m genuinely starting to think AoT has the most toxic fanbase of any anime, more so than shows like MHA.
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Dimmadeezy said:
Just another loser with a bait thread. Nothing to see here lol.


I honestly don't get you people who want low quality entertainment. Why shill for subpar animation honestly?


We just using brain, of course studio which make 2 movies in whole year ( 3,5 hours of animation ) have perfect quality, maybe everyone should do like that? 10 Episodes of anime in whole year.
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i think madhouse would be great too

but mappa is doing a decent job and attack on titan dosent have to rely on out of this world animation to be the masterpiece that it is

people who only watch it for the animation are missing out BIG TIME
Jan 18, 2021 3:10 AM

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no thanks, this toxic fanbase cursing my favorite studio will be the last thung i want. specially bullying the staffs out of twitter.
Jan 18, 2021 3:12 AM

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ReegrezSNK said:
sRazor96 said:


I honestly don't get you people who want low quality entertainment. Why shill for subpar animation honestly?


We just using brain, of course studio which make 2 movies in whole year ( 3,5 hours of animation ) have perfect quality, maybe everyone should do like that? 10 Episodes of anime in whole year.
Fate/zero 2011 season 1 was way ahead of its time. and thats not a 3 hr movie.
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dude ufotable's CGI is same as Mappa's CGI. y'all seriously never noticed these sneaky CGI's of tanjiro's and inosuke's fights huh.
Mappa is a really good choise as a studio, we'll let the experts take the wheel, our opinions in the production of Shingeki no Kyojin the final season means nothing. We are just people who watch without knowing what's going on during production.
also mappa's camera work on episode 6 is god dammn amazing y'all criminals for not praising it enough -
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Boohoo why didn't the best studio take this anime ;( I haTe MAPAPP
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ReegrezSNK said:
sRazor96 said:


I honestly don't get you people who want low quality entertainment. Why shill for subpar animation honestly?


We just using brain, of course studio which make 2 movies in whole year ( 3,5 hours of animation ) have perfect quality, maybe everyone should do like that? 10 Episodes of anime in whole year.


Good things come to those who wait. This is a stupid comparison, of course tv shows are going have worse animation than films. That is just a given.
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re:zero season 1 was way ahead of its time. and thats not a 3 hr movie.


Re Zero season 1 is average quality wise, its nothing special like Kimetsu No Yaiba or OMP s1.
sorry i meant fate/zero. compare it with any anime that was aired in 2011. also kmy was not a 3 hr movie but a full 26 eps series. honestly i dont think any studios are near ufotable at this moment, witt studio maybe
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Rhhdaiw said:
Guys he said choice
He really said choice
I can't stop laughing
You really think there was a choice
MAPPA was the only studio that wanted to take this shit
There was not any other choice
Also ufotable is busy with counting the income of Demon Slayer movie


Why would anyone decline this offer I mean if you do this thing right you are making a fanbase which would give you a free pass for at least a decade
Jan 18, 2021 3:21 AM
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"Something less than perfect is an insult to AoT"

Jesus Fuck I'm out.


R u kidding with me?
Jan 18, 2021 3:21 AM
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Ufotable have their hands full with one of the best( in terms of their income and profit),KNY has now become a cultural phenomenon in Japan,
Aot on the other hand has more of a complex, gory setting not preferred by the Japanese as a whole.. Although ufotable certainly is way ahead than any other studio in my opinion at the moment but MAPPA the only best option that AOT could have gotten.
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Dimmadeezy said:
sRazor96 said:


I honestly don't get you people who want low quality entertainment. Why shill for subpar animation honestly?


Because I have enough of a brain to understand that AoT is about the plot, and if you’re only there for perfect animation and fight scenes, you’ve completely missed the point of the show. There were one or two moments that looked a little janky, but we got that with WIT studio and their awful CGI colossal Titan as well. Other than that, the CGI actually allows for more fluidity and movement from the titans instead of us getting still shots every 5 seconds. Not to mention the production committee wanted this season finished at the same time as the manga, so the schedule was 8 months compared to the literal YEARS that WIT studio had to animate the first 3 seasons. WIT was offered to do the final season and dropped the show because they knew they couldn’t finish it in time without absolutely butchering it. I’m genuinely starting to think AoT has the most toxic fanbase of any anime, more so than shows like MHA.


I read the manga for the plot, anime has animation. That is why I watch it. If I want plot I will read light novels/books and manga instead. Anime is a feast for the eyes. I'd rather wait years and have good anime than not wait and have whatever this season is. Good on WIT for refusing, at least it is MAPPA butchering it now.

I am not against anime having cgi standing at times. It is this overuse that MAPPA is using. Steamboy had cgi that looked good (granted it is a film), saga of tanya had cgi that was not problematic and even in this episode of AOT, there was cgi on the trucks and trains. It did not look out of place there, it did look out of place on the survey corps and the titans.

The warhammer transformation animation that MAPPA did was great though.
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Rhhdaiw said:
Guys he said choice
He really said choice
I can't stop laughing
You really think there was a choice
MAPPA was the only studio that wanted to take this shit
There was not any other choice
Also ufotable is busy with counting the income of Demon Slayer movie


Why would anyone decline this offer I mean if you do this thing right you are making a fanbase which would give you a free pass for at least a decade
dude, this is a fan which cant be pleased xD, no matter which studios the hate would have been the same
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"Something less than perfect is an insult to AoT"

Jesus Fuck I'm out.
I didn't know that Jesus fuck too in anime.
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Rhhdaiw said:
Guys he said choice
He really said choice
I can't stop laughing
You really think there was a choice
MAPPA was the only studio that wanted to take this shit
There was not any other choice
Also ufotable is busy with counting the income of Demon Slayer movie


Why would anyone decline this offer I mean if you do this thing right you are making a fanbase which would give you a free pass for at least a decade

Because they think they can't animate this madness in 10 months
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We just using brain, of course studio which make 2 movies in whole year ( 3,5 hours of animation ) have perfect quality, maybe everyone should do like that? 10 Episodes of anime in whole year.


Good things come to those who wait. This is a stupid comparison, of course tv shows are going have worse animation than films. That is just a given.
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My point is Mappa give us a lot stuff with very good quality overall, and Ufotable give us less but with perfect quality.If everyone would produce anime like Ufotable, AOT probably wouldn't have gotten the final season at all.
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Ufotable?? haha...you are so funny, i'm not saying they are bad, even i'm a Ufotable fanboy but for AOT they are not the right choice.
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You should stop complaining about the animation, it's good man, the cgi is good, if you don't like cgi in general is your own problem, shut the f*ck up and enjoy the show god dammit.
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People are sooo exaggerate Ufotable. They did a good anime and people are treat the studio like god of animation or something.

The only memorable anime that Ufotable made is Fate Zero and Demon Slayer. That's it.

And I can assure you making Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan is not the same fucking thing. Not even close.

I doubt Ufotable would have make a good adaptation.
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Because I have enough of a brain to understand that AoT is about the plot, and if you’re only there for perfect animation and fight scenes, you’ve completely missed the point of the show. There were one or two moments that looked a little janky, but we got that with WIT studio and their awful CGI colossal Titan as well. Other than that, the CGI actually allows for more fluidity and movement from the titans instead of us getting still shots every 5 seconds. Not to mention the production committee wanted this season finished at the same time as the manga, so the schedule was 8 months compared to the literal YEARS that WIT studio had to animate the first 3 seasons. WIT was offered to do the final season and dropped the show because they knew they couldn’t finish it in time without absolutely butchering it. I’m genuinely starting to think AoT has the most toxic fanbase of any anime, more so than shows like MHA.


I read the manga for the plot, anime has animation. That is why I watch it. If I want plot I will read light novels/books and manga instead. Anime is a feast for the eyes. I'd rather wait years and have good anime than not wait and have whatever this season is. Good on WIT for refusing, at least it is MAPPA butchering it now.

I am not against anime having cgi standing at times. It is this overuse that MAPPA is using. Steamboy had cgi that looked good (granted it is a film), saga of tanya had cgi that was not problematic and even in this episode of AOT, there was cgi on the trucks and trains. It did not look out of place there, it did look out of place on the survey corps and the titans.

The warhammer transformation animation that MAPPA did was great though.


At least someone understand what m trying to say here,
We watch anime bcz it can move and sound and it's coloured if that's not perfect than what's the point.
Just read the bloody manga
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Re Zero season 1 is average quality wise, its nothing special like Kimetsu No Yaiba or OMP s1.
sorry i meant fate/zero. compare it with any anime that was aired in 2011. also kmy was not a 3 hr movie but a full 26 eps series. honestly i dont think any studios are near ufotable at this moment, witt studio maybe


And you have 25 episodes of KNY and one fate movie in whole year versus 25 episodes of JJK, 16 episodes of AOT, 12 episodes of Dorohedoro and 13 episodes of GOH, if instead of this all Mappa would produce just one series like Ufotable they maybe could have even better quality.
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AoT doesn’t really suit their animation style imo
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ufotable will do no better because of only 8 months of buffer production schedule

remember Mr Cao the director of episode 6 says it takes 6-12 months to make 1 titan episode and he done episode 6 in almost a full year
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Rhhdaiw said:
Guys he said choice
He really said choice
I can't stop laughing
You really think there was a choice
MAPPA was the only studio that wanted to take this shit
There was not any other choice
Also ufotable is busy with counting the income of Demon Slayer movie


Why would anyone decline this offer I mean if you do this thing right you are making a fanbase which would give you a free pass for at least a decade
I'ts simple Because they know AOT fanbase is toxic.
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sorry i meant fate/zero. compare it with any anime that was aired in 2011. also kmy was not a 3 hr movie but a full 26 eps series. honestly i dont think any studios are near ufotable at this moment, witt studio maybe


And you have 25 episodes of KNY and one fate movie in whole year versus 25 episodes of JJK, 16 episodes of AOT, 12 episodes of Dorohedoro and 13 episodes of GOH, if instead of this all Mappa would produce just one series like Ufotable they maybe could have even better quality.
well yea thats true
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It could've been better if the anime was in Ufotable's hands, but every other studio turned AOT down because of the shitty schedule, so just lay down and accept it, because this is what you're getting.
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Mathi786 said:
Rhhdaiw said:
Guys he said choice
He really said choice
I can't stop laughing
You really think there was a choice
MAPPA was the only studio that wanted to take this shit
There was not any other choice
Also ufotable is busy with counting the income of Demon Slayer movie


Why would anyone decline this offer I mean if you do this thing right you are making a fanbase which would give you a free pass for at least a decade


Studios that are smart declined the series . The shedule is that bad
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Ufotabe CG and digital aftereffects department + Arifumi Imai as a dedicated Action animation director + kyoto character designs + WIT supervision. God tier adaptation.

Stop fucking dreaming.
Subjectivity is a joke on MAL. If you implicitly bring in subjectivity in your counter argument, you've already lost the debate. Also this website is a fankid infestation , have pity on those kids by ignoring there quotes as they have absolutely no clue what exactly is going on.
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The problem here isn't the studio, but the time schedule.

Any other studio that you consider amazing would result in the exact same if not worse quality. Besides, Mappa was the only studio that actually agreed to make the final season considering the tight schedule, and if not for them, we probably wouldn't see the final season animated for a couple of years at least, if ever. The hype would then definitely drop by a lot considering the manga is ending soon.

People (mostly manga readers) like to extremely over-exaggerate cause of their big fantasies they had with certain scenes etc. so they literally shit on every little detail and it of course becomes unwatchable for them. Who would have known??? As an anime only watcher this show so far is simply amazing. Yes, CGI is noticeable, but acceptable. Even good in some cases. I came to this season with a big focus on the plot anyway, while having rational expectiations considering the cirumstances, thus I'm enjoying the show. Simple as that.

When will people finally realize that no other studio could possibly do a ''perfect'' animation in a span of 10 months... You can't revert it by posting these nonsensical rants we see every day, why not just relax and enjoy an incredibile story coming to an end?
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