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Dec 14, 2020 2:45 AM
#101
It's not lolis that make anime bad, it's the people that have feelings for them or ship them. |
Dec 14, 2020 4:25 AM
#102
it def does. especially to older generations. I can vouch for this since my mom is one of htese people. She will never understand the aesthetic. it looks pretty and its cute. its not all sexual *sigh* |
Dec 14, 2020 4:55 AM
#103
Yes and so what if it does, it’ll stay that way lmao |
Dec 14, 2020 4:57 AM
#104
Only thing that would give Anime a bad impact would be the fans. |
Dec 14, 2020 5:12 AM
#105
Hxh has loli sensei but still get high rating, so loli is good |
Dec 14, 2020 5:56 AM
#106
People who criticize anime for such reasons would find other things to complain about regardless if lolis were a thing or not, with the classic being the whole "anime is for kids" argument. Lolis are great and part of what makes anime such a fun medium. |
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Dec 14, 2020 9:38 AM
#107
Bunille said: It's not lolis that make anime bad, it's the people that have feelings for them or ship them. Nothing wrong with shipping them with their canon boyfriends. :p You are supposed to. |
Dec 14, 2020 2:13 PM
#108
No, but lolicons do. If you call yourself a lolicon your weird. |
Dec 14, 2020 3:07 PM
#109
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Dec 14, 2020 3:18 PM
#110
AwokenStroken said: Aren't lolis just children though? It's sexualizing them that a lot of people tend to have a problem with Welcome to the NHK addresses this Thats pretty much how I see it(they are children imho), theres a bunch of examples of adults like Tatsumaki, that look like children. Still heavy sexualized and the creators knew what they were doing... To the people that like lolis, if you didnt knew their age, how would you address people that ask that same question..."Arent lolis just children?" |
Dec 14, 2020 3:18 PM
#111
EndlessMaria said: Berserkerz said: EndlessMaria said: Berserkerz said: If you're attracted to little anime girls, then you're a pedophile. Regardless if they're drawings or not. And if you're attracted to little anime girls then you're more likely to be attracted to little real girls. Get outta here with that "it's not real" bull shit. Ironic statement coming form a poster with a Rurouni Kenshin avatar, not gonna lie. Don't know what you're talking about. I don't see how Rurouni Kenshin has to do with anything. If you don't know the connection, then you are probably better off not aware. I love Rurouni Kenshin, but the mangaka is an actual convicted pedo. Man...You learn new things everyday O_O |
Dec 14, 2020 3:22 PM
#112
Bunille said: It's not lolis that make anime bad, it's the people that have feelings for them or ship them. This is probably the defense of lolis and probably the only one I would accept |
Dec 14, 2020 3:26 PM
#113
For the last time - Anime is FICTION. It's not real. So what if someone likes a loli character or, dare I say, sexualise a loli character? There's no harm done to any person or living creature. This discussion ends right there. I don't even like the FBI jokes anymore because of this. You are seriously gonna criticize or bash a person for liking or lewding a drawing? Think again. |
Dec 14, 2020 3:28 PM
#114
Bungegumgoesbrr said: For the last time - Anime is FICTION. It's not real. So what if someone likes a loli character or, dare I say, sexualise a loli character? There's no harm done to any person or living creature. This discussion ends right there. I don't even like the FBI jokes anymore because of this. You are seriously gonna criticize or bash a person for liking or lewding a drawing? Think again. I am glad someone here is using common sense, at least. Indeed, they are not real at all; WHY DO PEOPLE MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS?? |
Dec 14, 2020 3:33 PM
#115
DanceTilTomorrow said: Eladriel said: EndlessMaria said: Berserkerz said: EndlessMaria said: Berserkerz said: If you're attracted to little anime girls, then you're a pedophile. Regardless if they're drawings or not. And if you're attracted to little anime girls then you're more likely to be attracted to little real girls. Get outta here with that "it's not real" bull shit. Ironic statement coming form a poster with a Rurouni Kenshin avatar, not gonna lie. Don't know what you're talking about. I don't see how Rurouni Kenshin has to do with anything. If you don't know the connection, then you are probably better off not aware. I love Rurouni Kenshin, but the mangaka is an actual convicted pedo. Man...You learn new things everyday O_O He only owned some pornographic material that was legal in Japan up to a few years ago and got caught overseas with it. He didn't diddle children. Child pornography then ? And it was legal in japan ? wtf |
Dec 14, 2020 3:34 PM
#116
NeoYami said: Bunille said: It's not lolis that make anime bad, it's the people that have feelings for them or ship them. This is probably the defense of lolis and probably the only one I would accept Its not the lolis that make anime bad, it'sthe people that can't deal with people having a different culture, ideas or understanding of things that give anime a bad name. Nothing more, nothing less. People who think lolicons are bad never bothered checking whether their baseless accusions make any sense, but rather throw around baseless accusions. |
Dec 14, 2020 5:39 PM
#117
No I dont think so at all .They are one of many things that makes anime great IMO. I love cute little lesbian lolis. I just wanna eat them up num num num num .They look so fucking delicious ,,,,YEEEEEEES This is my favorite lesbian loli trio, with sexy little outfits. As a man of culture I highly approve Hehehehehehe |
Yuri-CrusaderDec 14, 2020 6:36 PM
Dec 14, 2020 6:04 PM
#118
TolkienFan365 said: Animeismuda said: I have seen people on many sites saying that anime is for pedos. And I can see why they think like that. At first I was also concerned by sexualized Lolis but I have grown desentized to it. I think this is not good for the industry as it stops many people from even trying anime. The most annoying thing about it is that most of the anime fans are not even lolicons. A lolicon may also not be an anime fan. I think we should make normies understand the difference between a lolicon and an anime fan. The amount of sexualized lolis in anime and manga is tiny (ignoring hentai). Seriously, is there really that much hentai for lolis. underground comics yes, animated ... not so much. The size of the industry for that stuff isn't big enough for much actual loli hentai anime to ever get made. For example, in the Eroge hentai, there is a loli, she's the only one who the hero doesn't get it on with. It's the same with Boku no Pico - that one gets all the press since it's pretty much the only shota one you'll ever find. Nobody ever says "check this other one out, it's like Boku no Pico". Yeah so they made that one, but clearly it wasn't commercially successful so they didn't start making more of that kind of thing. And there isn't even a go-to example of loli hentai to troll newbies with, is there? name one. |
cipheronDec 14, 2020 6:09 PM
Dec 14, 2020 6:07 PM
#119
cipheron said: TolkienFan365 said: Animeismuda said: I have seen people on many sites saying that anime is for pedos. And I can see why they think like that. At first I was also concerned by sexualized Lolis but I have grown desentized to it. I think this is not good for the industry as it stops many people from even trying anime. The most annoying thing about it is that most of the anime fans are not even lolicons. A lolicon may also not be an anime fan. I think we should make normies understand the difference between a lolicon and an anime fan. The amount of sexualized lolis in anime and manga is tiny (ignoring hentai). Seriously, is there really that much hentai for lolis. underground comics yes, animated ... not so much. The size of the industry for that stuff isn't big enough for much actual loli hentai anime to ever get made. For example, in the Eroge hentai, there is a loli, she's the only one who the hero doesn't get it on with. It's the same with Boku no Pico - that one gets all the press since it's pretty much the only shota one you'll ever find. Nobody ever says "check this other one out, it's like Boku no Pico". And there ... isn't even a go-to example of loli hentai to troll newbies with, is there? name one. I was taking H-manga to account but yeah if you stick to purely anime even less. It's pretty minute actually. |
Dec 14, 2020 8:24 PM
#120
DanceTilTomorrow said: How does Pokemon give anime a bad name? It is everyone's childhood and is one of the most popular shows ever made.Sure, but anime had other bigger issues like incest, tentacle rape, hentai, Pokemon |
Dec 14, 2020 8:27 PM
#121
cipheron said: You can troll newbies with shoujo ramune. I think it is more fucked than boku no pico but people seem to like it for some reason.TolkienFan365 said: Animeismuda said: I have seen people on many sites saying that anime is for pedos. And I can see why they think like that. At first I was also concerned by sexualized Lolis but I have grown desentized to it. I think this is not good for the industry as it stops many people from even trying anime. The most annoying thing about it is that most of the anime fans are not even lolicons. A lolicon may also not be an anime fan. I think we should make normies understand the difference between a lolicon and an anime fan. The amount of sexualized lolis in anime and manga is tiny (ignoring hentai). Seriously, is there really that much hentai for lolis. underground comics yes, animated ... not so much. The size of the industry for that stuff isn't big enough for much actual loli hentai anime to ever get made. For example, in the Eroge hentai, there is a loli, she's the only one who the hero doesn't get it on with. It's the same with Boku no Pico - that one gets all the press since it's pretty much the only shota one you'll ever find. Nobody ever says "check this other one out, it's like Boku no Pico". Yeah so they made that one, but clearly it wasn't commercially successful so they didn't start making more of that kind of thing. And there isn't even a go-to example of loli hentai to troll newbies with, is there? name one. |
Dec 14, 2020 11:43 PM
#122
Yuri-Crusader said: No I dont think so at all .They are one of many things that makes anime great IMO. I love cute little lesbian lolis. I just wanna eat them up num num num num .They look so fucking delicious ,,,,YEEEEEEES This is my favorite lesbian loli trio, with sexy little outfits. As a man of culture I highly approve Hehehehehehe I see you are a man of culture as well. (thats one of my favorite trios too) |
Dec 15, 2020 3:53 AM
#123
Play2X said: NeoYami said: Bunille said: It's not lolis that make anime bad, it's the people that have feelings for them or ship them. This is probably the defense of lolis and probably the only one I would accept Its not the lolis that make anime bad, it'sthe people that can't deal with people having a different culture, ideas or understanding of things that give anime a bad name. Nothing more, nothing less. People who think lolicons are bad never bothered checking whether their baseless accusions make any sense, but rather throw around baseless accusions. Lolicons are just the way the industry uses the appeal of cute, child like characters to sell toys and get easy money by sexualizing them...baseless accusations? Didnt accuse you of anything, but lets address this... Lolis are per definition child like, some say petite, but lets use Alita from GUNNM, shes clearly petite, but theres no moment where shes portraited as a child, even by the fandom, why is that the case? Now lets look at Tatsumaki from OPM...I dont think I need to describe it(and I believe Tatsumaki gets an adult treatment, unlike many lolis) "It's not lolis that make anime bad, it's the people that have feelings for them or ship them" I agree with this, but I dont agree with what you said, since you implying that theres nothing wrong with all the people that enjoy it, there are some that enjoy it purely for the kawaii aspect(I see nothing wrong there), theres some that like it for the NSFW part(thats not of my business), but theres no denying that from the outside its just anime is just a P.E.D.O farm and theres no consensus from those in the community and thats telling a lot I have no issue watching stuff from Crazyshit, P0rn and stuff like that around my friends, but when it comes to the anime community, I need to be very aware of the topics I share with my friends because some people including loli lovers are just weird, to say the least Edit: Just look to the post above mine...thats not petite, those are children |
Dec 15, 2020 4:03 AM
#124
Lolis are literally just children... Nothing wrong with them. Its Lolicons that ARE a problem... A.K.A. pedophiles To this day, I'll NEVER understand how the anime/manga community has no problems with pedophiles, as long as they don't PHYSICALLY do something to a kid... A pedo is a pedo no matter what. Sexualized Lolis are THE biggest issue in ALL of anime and manga, and it alone being removed could make SO many shows actually good... Made in Abyss would be perfect without some specific scenes. Dragon Maid without Kanna (the stupidest thing I've ever seen making a LITERAL little girl nearly orgasming over another little girl) I could name others, but there's no point, because I SHOULDN'T have to even explain. There's the idiotic "they aren't real people" excuse too.... A kid is a kid, regardless if its fiction or not!! You're STILL pleasuring yourself to the image of a little kid!! Dear God, I can't stand Lolicon/Pedo freaks! |
Dec 15, 2020 4:03 AM
#125
The answer to this seems to be relatively easy for me. Do the animators who went through all the trouble for at least a year to draw, shade, color and so forth to produce such an anime intend for you to get your dick hard from seeing a very underage girl? If not, get on with it. It's anime. If so, fuck you. It's hentai. Easy, ain't it? |
Dec 15, 2020 4:08 AM
#126
Berserkerz said: EndlessMaria said: Berserkerz said: If you're attracted to little anime girls, then you're a pedophile. Regardless if they're drawings or not. And if you're attracted to little anime girls then you're more likely to be attracted to little real girls. Get outta here with that "it's not real" bull shit. Ironic statement coming form a poster with a Rurouni Kenshin avatar, not gonna lie. Don't know what you're talking about. I don't see how Rurouni Kenshin has to do with anything. The author is a confirmed pedophile. But he's just making excuses to annoy you... The series itself is perfectly fine. |
Dec 15, 2020 4:15 AM
#127
Just make me a moderator, so I can permanently ban all Lolicons... |
Dec 15, 2020 4:43 AM
#128
I have watched quite a bit for studies on how being a lolicon predicts pedophilia. Guess what, there are no reliable studies on it, more on the contrary, crime data rather show that japan has the least amount of problems with pedophilia. That means, that being a lolicon is neither bad nor dangerous, and the only thing that gives anime a bad name are people like @HulktySSJ2 and our dear friends of american news outlets, who want to make panic by demonizing japanese culture. But whatever, I'm pretty tired of people being all like 'yOU guys sUcK! yOu aRe basiCally MONSTERS!!' because they can't deal with other peoples opinions and want to make other lives hell. Have fun. |
Dec 15, 2020 4:44 AM
#129
MAL in general gives the anime community a bad name. What else is new. |
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Dec 15, 2020 4:55 AM
#130
Definitely. Creepy af so I can't blame anyone for being weirded out. |
Dec 15, 2020 4:59 AM
#131
EndlessMaria said: True if some normal person vists mal forum he will never watch anime.MAL in general gives the anime community a bad name. What else is new. |
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Dec 15, 2020 5:07 AM
#132
Potentially, but does the average person even know what a "loli" is? Why would they connect it to anime? |
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Dec 15, 2020 7:13 AM
#133
Often I see these unsubstantiated claims of the seeming relation between attraction to loli/shouta characters and paedophilia, let alone any kind of increase and/or tolerance towards the sexual exploitation of children. Anime depictions are so far apart from their real life counterparts that expecting a 1 to 1 correspondence in what one's attracted perfectly mapping to reality is silly at best and dishonest at worst. Many otherwise straight men find feminine guys in anime attractive, or people may have fetishes exclusively for anime they don't enjoy outside of it, like futa or tomboy, or gory shit. These are so easily demonstrable if you just go and compare the popular tags/keywords in each respective sites of comparable size. |
Dec 15, 2020 7:28 AM
#134
Auron_ said: Can you lolicons make me understand how are you sexually attracted to characters who do not have boobs or any feature which is present in an adult female and still think you are not a pedophile.Often I see these unsubstantiated claims of the seeming relation between attraction to loli/shouta characters and paedophilia, let alone any kind of increase and/or tolerance towards the sexual exploitation of children. Anime depictions are so far apart from their real life counterparts that expecting a 1 to 1 correspondence in what one's attracted perfectly mapping to reality is silly at best and dishonest at worst. Many otherwise straight men find feminine guys in anime attractive, or people may have fetishes exclusively for anime they don't enjoy outside of it, like futa or tomboy, or gory shit. These are so easily demonstrable if you just go and compare the popular tags/keywords in each respective sites of comparable size. |
Dec 15, 2020 7:31 AM
#135
Animeismuda said: Auron_ said: Can you lolicons make me understand how are you sexually attracted to characters who do not have boobs or any feature which is present in an adult female and still think you are not a pedophile.Often I see these unsubstantiated claims of the seeming relation between attraction to loli/shouta characters and paedophilia, let alone any kind of increase and/or tolerance towards the sexual exploitation of children. Anime depictions are so far apart from their real life counterparts that expecting a 1 to 1 correspondence in what one's attracted perfectly mapping to reality is silly at best and dishonest at worst. Many otherwise straight men find feminine guys in anime attractive, or people may have fetishes exclusively for anime they don't enjoy outside of it, like futa or tomboy, or gory shit. These are so easily demonstrable if you just go and compare the popular tags/keywords in each respective sites of comparable size. Well, you got me there. I am indeed interested in characters who do not have boobs or any feature which is present in an adult female. It's called men. Satisfied? |
Dec 15, 2020 7:31 AM
#136
If anime started out on netflix, it would've been praised for empowering girls. |
Dec 15, 2020 7:34 AM
#137
Dec 15, 2020 7:40 AM
#138
Idk. I just think lolis look adorable. I’m more of a casual so i have no opinion other than i think sexualizing them is pretty weird :/ |
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Dec 15, 2020 9:20 AM
#139
Pretty much so, I haven't seen anyone besides brain dead weebs justifying a 5 year old looking kid's assigned age of 500 or whatever. |
Dec 15, 2020 9:26 AM
#140
Dec 15, 2020 9:26 AM
#141
not really, anime can sometimes give itself a bad name |
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Dec 15, 2020 9:32 AM
#142
Lots of judgemental assholes on this thread...condemning innocent people for their taste in harmless drawings, I see. *shakes head* MAL..... It will be locked soon anyway. @HulkTySSJ2 What exactly do you want them to do? Throw lolicons in JAIL and treat them like actual criminals even though they have: 1.Never hurt a real kid or 2. Are even attracted to real kids? Who are they hurting? |
ChiibiDec 15, 2020 9:44 AM
Dec 15, 2020 10:27 AM
#143
Chiibi said: Lots of judgemental assholes on this thread...condemning innocent people for their taste in harmless drawings, I see. *shakes head* MAL..... It will be locked soon anyway. @HulkTySSJ2 What exactly do you want them to do? Throw lolicons in JAIL and treat them like actual criminals even though they have: 1.Never hurt a real kid or 2. Are even attracted to real kids? Who are they hurting? Pedos are Pedos. If we can't jail them, ban them. |
Dec 15, 2020 10:37 AM
#144
Hmmm, actually that is not right, but if someone have a problem with that i think that is the real proble. You know what i mean men LoL |
Dec 15, 2020 10:41 AM
#145
HulkTySSJ2 said: Chiibi said: Lots of judgemental assholes on this thread...condemning innocent people for their taste in harmless drawings, I see. *shakes head* MAL..... It will be locked soon anyway. @HulkTySSJ2 What exactly do you want them to do? Throw lolicons in JAIL and treat them like actual criminals even though they have: 1.Never hurt a real kid or 2. Are even attracted to real kids? Who are they hurting? Pedos are Pedos. If we can't jail them, ban them. I would like you to find specific EVIDENCE that lolicons are "pedos" because no, they are not. |
Dec 15, 2020 11:00 AM
#146
rsc-pl said: It's a great pleb filter to be honest. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
Dec 15, 2020 11:44 AM
#147
Yes, regardless of whether you agree with the norm, most people find it horrendous that part of the appeal to a show would be a sexualized childlike character. If they hear of this trope before watching anything, they'll have the stereotype in their mind that anime is for degenerates and will likely avoid watching anime and interacting with people that watch anime. You don't want sexualized childlike characters to be associated with anything from a marketing standpoint (unless your target market is degenerates) and especially not yourself; it's a quick way for a date to go south if the person you're meeting has that perception of anime. |
Dec 15, 2020 12:40 PM
#148
Chiibi said: HulkTySSJ2 said: Chiibi said: Lots of judgemental assholes on this thread...condemning innocent people for their taste in harmless drawings, I see. *shakes head* MAL..... It will be locked soon anyway. @HulkTySSJ2 What exactly do you want them to do? Throw lolicons in JAIL and treat them like actual criminals even though they have: 1.Never hurt a real kid or 2. Are even attracted to real kids? Who are they hurting? Pedos are Pedos. If we can't jail them, ban them. I would like you to find specific EVIDENCE that lolicons are "pedos" because no, they are not. Don't even try. @HulkTySSJ2 is immune to reason, and apparently would burn everyone who doesn't agree with them. |
Dec 15, 2020 12:42 PM
#149
Dec 15, 2020 12:51 PM
#150
Yes, the sexualization of children is the biggest problem in modern anime and it needs to stop. It's also one of reasons why I didn't love the Monogatari Series as much as I wanted to. |
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