| Prove me wrong or comment that you agree if you do and why! Remember to use FACTUAL arguments :) |
| I agree, I mean, Gon can't beat Goku though. |
| I was actually gonna tell you off for calling a great show like HxH overrated before I saw all that One Piece greatness |
| This anime shit is addictive |
| Yeah, i agree, it's not hentai, so its not good. |
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| Isn't this obvious? I mean, the show is ranked #3 top rated anime despite having lots of flaws like pacing issue, generic villains, battle system filled with asspulls, discontinued plot, inconsistent characters, ridiculous themes, no ending, mediocre art/animation, the anime is 80% boring, horrible storytelling and it's just annoyingly stupid overall. I'm not a big fan of shounen myself, but HxH is definitely the worst shounen I've ever seen. |
Kurgo said: You are wrong. Your first comment ("you people need to .......") is wrong. I never said that, did I? I never stated something that could be translated to that comment, did I? I don't think so! It is a matter preferences. I believe that hxh is overrated. That is an OPINION that I created based on certain facts and arguments that are TRUE in MY eyes. If you see it differently then tell me why. I wrote PROVE ME WRONG . Well you didn't. You just tried to look smart. THAT is the DEFINITION OF ARROGANCE (:When you say "overrated" it simply means "you people need to stop liking that as much as you do because that's how I feel about it". Which is not only extremely arrogant and annoyingly self-centered but fantastically stupid, too. Msybe you can tell people who like xhx why they should like it less? Still dumb but hey, it's a start. |
| Toxic elitist shit, hell I've never even watched it but seeing a topic like this just baffles me |
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MellowStar said: Quite a lot tbh xD. I totally agree with every word, even with the punctuation marksYes,it truly is the most overrated anime out there.Need I say why?Because every damn arc is so boring it could be such a sleep-inducing anime,especially Chimera Ant Arc.And don’t forget the characters,every one of them is flat one-note cardboard cuts and they stayed the same throughout the series.No development at all,ugh,could you believe it?And Greed Island Arc,ohhhh that arc...the worst bs power I’ve ever seen.Have you ever seen villains as generic as The Bomber?Well now you have.And that ending is pure bs.Wtf was that even.Needless to say it needs to be ranked as low as Skelter Heaven or Mars of Destruction. Are you satisfied now? |
| You definitely need a change of mind. The current one isn't working well. And stuff I don't like =/= Overrated. |
Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth. Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime. |
| What's the point of proving you wrong when most of the anime you like are on the same lvl of HXH? You could make the same argument that every other popular shounen is overrated as well. Just your personal preference don't need to prove anything |
mono_mer said: But stuff I dont like that have many flaws and arguments based on an educational backround =OVERRATED Why didn't you try to change my mind? It isn't going to change by itself! Perhaps you dont have arguments xD (yes i am provoking to prove me wrong :)You definitely need a change of mind. The current one isn't working well. And stuff I don't like =/= Overrated. |
| I agree, it's just your typical action shounen. |
| I think the term “overrated” is arbitrarily narcissistic in the way that some people don’t accept most people’s take like a hipster, but it’s a trolley problem when you prefer more into the majority’s take rather than your own take which is completely fine. However, “overrated” doesn’t hold its meaning to change at all. Your opinion can’t control other man’s mind when the choice is there to divert, but hey, most opinions are there to balance the bias of each opposing value. We, human beings, don’t seek perfection at all. |
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Daddy said: What is the point? This is a 'challenge' for you to TRY and provide arguments that could do the job. If hxh was so good then it would be a piece of cake for you to do that. If it was so good then it will take a couple of minutes for you to do that. If it wasn't overrated, then you would have already written why and if this was ONLY A PERSONAL PREFERENCE , then this personal preference wouldn't be shared with a very high percent of people that have finished watching hxh! :)What's the point of proving you wrong when most of the anime you like are on the same lvl of HXH? You could make the same argument that every other popular shounen is overrated as well. Just your personal preference don't need to prove anything |
| Hey!In the first place only an idiot would be interested in changing your mind. Your mind is already in the.......hole. But I agree Hunter x Hunter is really a brand show.It's development,it's characters, OMG! I don't have words to praise it. Overall it should be rank 1 and One Piece should be out of 1000. I hope you'd agree with me. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
| Naruto is way better, Naruto is best shounen and nothing can change my mind You might like this video |
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BatGuin said: Daddy said: What is the point? This is a 'challenge' for you to TRY and provide arguments that could do the job. If hxh is so good then it would be a piece of cake for you to do that. If it so good then it will take a couple of minutes for you to do that. If it wasn't overrated, then you would have already written why and if this was ONLY A PERSONAL PREFERENCE , then this personal preference wouldn't be shared with a very high percent of people that have finished watching hxh! :)What's the point of proving you wrong when most of the anime you like are on the same lvl of HXH? You could make the same argument that every other popular shounen is overrated as well. Just your personal preference don't need to prove anything That made no sense. I don't know if you're trying to sound smart or come off like a debate specialist but it's not going that well. Firstly you never mentioned your issues with it you simply said it was overrated and for people to change your mind?? Its as if i say THIS CAR SUCKS SO CHANGE MY MIND. How can people go about that when we don't know what you personally had issues with. It's rated number 3 on MAL so if it's as overrated as you say it is, it wouldn't still be the number 3 anime. Top rated anime are naturally more prone to being critiqued and judged. If anything you could say MHA is more overrated due to it's sheer popularity when it's not as well received as HXH and it's more popular. |
| @BatGuin HxH is perhaps the best battle shounen out there. Not interested in proving you wrong. Though I don't think that it deserves to be as high as no. 3 but I enjoyed it thoroughly nonetheless. |
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| Chimera Ant is possibly the most overrated arc in anime but while HxH is very overrated I don't think it takes the overall crown. |
Daddy said: YOou yearn to know my issues with this anime so much huh? Mellowstar's opinion, although it is ironically posted, it still converges with mine and shares the same issues give or take and there is not a reason for me to repeat them. Furthermore you seem to rely on MAL ratings a lot... So based on your comment the higher the rating the better the anime, right? OFC not, I hope you mistyped it xD. Based on your comment then for istance SAO is pretty good right? lol MAL ratings suck and just because a certain amount of people hate an anime and rate it with an 1(flcl , great pretender) that show doesnt rank as high as it should!BatGuin said: What is the point? This is a 'challenge' for you to TRY and provide arguments that could do the job. If hxh is so good then it would be a piece of cake for you to do that. If it so good then it will take a couple of minutes for you to do that. If it wasn't overrated, then you would have already written why and if this was ONLY A PERSONAL PREFERENCE , then this personal preference wouldn't be shared with a very high percent of people that have finished watching hxh! :) That made no sense. I don't know if you're trying to sound smart or come off like a debate specialist but it's not going that well. Firstly you never mentioned your issues with it you simply said it was overrated and for people to change your mind?? Its as if i say THIS CAR SUCKS SO CHANGE MY MIND. How can people go about that when we don't know what you personally had issues with. It's rated number 3 on MAL so if it's as overrated as you say it is, it wouldn't still be the number 3 anime. Top rated anime are naturally more prone to being critiqued and judged. If anything you could say MHA is more overrated due to it's sheer popularity when it's not as well received as HXH and it's more popular. |
BatGuinSep 17, 2020 7:50 AM
BatGuin said: Prove me wrong or comment that you agree if you do and why! Remember to use FACTUAL arguments :) Before you should ask us to give reasons to be able to change your mind, you should be telling us your reason first. |
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MellowStar said: Yes,it truly is the most overrated anime out there.Need I say why?Because every damn arc is so boring it could be such a sleep-inducing anime,especially Chimera Ant Arc.And don’t forget the characters,every one of them is flat one-note cardboard cuts and they stayed the same throughout the series.No development at all,ugh,could you believe it?And Greed Island Arc,ohhhh that arc...the worst bs power I’ve ever seen.Have you ever seen villains as generic as The Bomber?Well now you have.And that ending is pure bs.Wtf was that even.Needless to say it needs to be ranked as low as Skelter Heaven or Mars of Destruction. Are you satisfied now? You had me for a while .... lmfao that was close |
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Dragonland04 said: 1st - Try a better bait title next time 2nd - Lets take the opposite of the situation - If I liked the show then your opinion wouldn't change my mind , no matter how much you badmouth it , it won't make it lose its spot as my favorite anime , similarly my explaining you won't make you like it , so your point is pretty useless . 3rd - If you actually want factual arguments then start by listing your argument as to why you think it is overrated by doing so you would be able to get general opinions 1)The bait title was pretty good for you to open the forum and even type tho xD 2)That isnt how a conflict works tho. You try and prove your point through your statements and even if a person doesnt want to accept he is wrong a third person 'makes the judge' and says who was right while being unbiased.Ofc this isnt how a conflicts EXACTLY is , i just wanted to explain it simply . Bakalika as we say in my country xD 3)I just did this and I have done this a lot of times in other forums ,tags etc. |
| Ok, I literally can’t stress enough how much the anime Hunter X Hunter, released 2011, based off the manga Hunter X Hunter, sucks so frickin much. In the first first arc where Gon, the main character, takes the Hunter exam, they steal so much from naruto. Like having to find 3 buttons similar to the 3 scrolls in naruto chunin exams. How the characters are being chased by Hisoka similar in a way to Orochimaru infiltrating the exam. And also Killua has electric powers just like Sasuke and is almost an opposite to Gon like Naruto is to Sasuke. Speaking of Sasuke, Kurapika had his clan murdered and has red eyes that personify him just like sasuke. This anime is just a big rip from others and I can’t respect that. I hate Hunter X Hunter and if you want to watch a good anime watch Naruto because it’s much better. |
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Hrybami said: Isn't this obvious? I mean, the show is ranked #3 top rated anime despite having lots of flaws like pacing issue, generic villains, battle system filled with asspulls, discontinued plot, inconsistent characters, ridiculous themes, no ending, mediocre art/animation, the anime is 80% boring, horrible storytelling and it's just annoyingly stupid overall. I'm not a big fan of shounen myself, but HxH is definitely the worst shounen I've ever seen. Generic villains? You watched some other anime, HxH has some of the best villains in anime without a doubt, not the best, but it is in top 3% Just look at Meruem, Chrollo Lucilfer, Hisoka and Pitou |
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| This is quite the mild bait post m8 even if the comm does overrate it in shonen standards |
What a beautiful Duwang |
Wait, be honest, so is it a bait or not? Coz my nigga please use facts to argue before telling people to do so. I mean how am I gonna have a discussion with you if you don't present your stance? |
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Preachee said: Ok, I literally can’t stress enough how much the anime Hunter X Hunter, released 2011, based off the manga Hunter X Hunter, sucks so frickin much. In the first first arc where Gon, the main character, takes the Hunter exam, they steal so much from naruto. Like having to find 3 buttons similar to the 3 scrolls in naruto chunin exams. How the characters are being chased by Hisoka similar in a way to Orochimaru infiltrating the exam. And also Killua has electric powers just like Sasuke and is almost an opposite to Gon like Naruto is to Sasuke. Speaking of Sasuke, Kurapika had his clan murdered and has red eyes that personify him just like sasuke. This anime is just a big rip from others and I can’t respect that. I hate Hunter X Hunter and if you want to watch a good anime watch Naruto because it’s much better. Ok this has to be bait too because Hunter x Hunter is older than Naruto lmao |
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Jus1294 said: Preachee said: Ok, I literally can’t stress enough how much the anime Hunter X Hunter, released 2011, based off the manga Hunter X Hunter, sucks so frickin much. In the first first arc where Gon, the main character, takes the Hunter exam, they steal so much from naruto. Like having to find 3 buttons similar to the 3 scrolls in naruto chunin exams. How the characters are being chased by Hisoka similar in a way to Orochimaru infiltrating the exam. And also Killua has electric powers just like Sasuke and is almost an opposite to Gon like Naruto is to Sasuke. Speaking of Sasuke, Kurapika had his clan murdered and has red eyes that personify him just like sasuke. This anime is just a big rip from others and I can’t respect that. I hate Hunter X Hunter and if you want to watch a good anime watch Naruto because it’s much better. Ok this has to be bait too because Hunter x Hunter is older than Naruto lmao I'm glad we're existing on some identical dimensional wavelength. |
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Tendo_GM said: Preachee said: Ok, I literally can’t stress enough how much the anime Hunter X Hunter, released 2011, based off the manga Hunter X Hunter, sucks so frickin much. In the first first arc where Gon, the main character, takes the Hunter exam, they steal so much from naruto. Like having to find 3 buttons similar to the 3 scrolls in naruto chunin exams. How the characters are being chased by Hisoka similar in a way to Orochimaru infiltrating the exam. And also Killua has electric powers just like Sasuke and is almost an opposite to Gon like Naruto is to Sasuke. Speaking of Sasuke, Kurapika had his clan murdered and has red eyes that personify him just like sasuke. This anime is just a big rip from others and I can’t respect that. I hate Hunter X Hunter and if you want to watch a good anime watch Naruto because it’s much better. Yea, but Naruto is super shit and main cast is weak in character, where HxH has some of the best written and personified characters in all anime and it easily surpasses Naruto after the first arc which is made to feel childish to make contrast with how dark and serious the story becomes and you say that its too much like Naruto OmegaKEKW No, that is objectively wrong. Naruto is one of the greatest anime, and however unagreeable, it is objectively a staple of the industry. Revolutionary in making shounen in particular and anime as a whole what it is today. With a huge, distinctive and idiosyncratic cast, exciting combat systems as well as a well thought-out plot, Naruto has undeniably become the golden standard of anime. Now if you compare it to HxH, it will inevitably belittle the latter. HxH has made no impact in the industry, nothing revolutionary nor inventive. Hisoka is a horny pedo gay shit clown that disturbingly (in a bad way) casually eats children's ass. Chrollo is emo gay. And Meruem, oh boy don't even get me started with that mf. He started from a somewhat promising villain to literally a fucking pathetic gungi Romeo-and-Juliet-esque romanticized anime-Chopin? Like what the fuck. I wanted something not cliched. Not this 'ouh revelation muh epiphany'. Comparing to Itachi, who isn't a villain to begin with, or Pain whose ideology is so great that makes everything in HxH cute and corny, and you'll reckon that Naruto is vastly superior. |
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Preachee said: Tendo_GM said: Yea, but Naruto is super shit and main cast is weak in character, where HxH has some of the best written and personified characters in all anime and it easily surpasses Naruto after the first arc which is made to feel childish to make contrast with how dark and serious the story becomes and you say that its too much like Naruto OmegaKEKW No, that is objectively wrong. Naruto is one of the greatest anime, and however unagreeable, it is objectively a staple of the industry. Revolutionary in making shounen in particular and anime as a whole what it is today. With a huge, distinctive and idiosyncratic cast, exciting combat systems as well as a well thought-out plot, Naruto has undeniably become the golden standard of anime. Now if you compare it to HxH, it will inevitably belittle the latter. HxH has made no impact in the industry, nothing revolutionary nor inventive. Hisoka is a horny pedo gay shit clown that disturbingly (in a bad way) casually eats children's ass. Chrollo is emo gay. And Meruem, oh boy don't even get me started with that mf. He started from a somewhat promising villain to literally a fucking pathetic gungi Romeo-and-Juliet-esque romanticized anime-Chopin? Like what the fuck. I wanted something not cliched. Not this 'ouh revelation muh epiphany'. Comparing to Itachi, who isn't a villain to begin with, or Pain whose ideology is so great that makes everything in HxH cute and corny, and you'll reckon that Naruto is vastly superior. Ok ok i get what you’re doing, i respect this trolling, but holy fuck are your anime scores bad |
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| not really. i mean its not my favorite.i have plenty above it. heck i like yu yu hakusho more |
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HyperionZero said: Hrybami said: Isn't this obvious? I mean, the show is ranked #3 top rated anime despite having lots of flaws like pacing issue, generic villains, battle system filled with asspulls, discontinued plot, inconsistent characters, ridiculous themes, no ending, mediocre art/animation, the anime is 80% boring, horrible storytelling and it's just annoyingly stupid overall. I'm not a big fan of shounen myself, but HxH is definitely the worst shounen I've ever seen. "Battle system filled with asspulls" Literally the trademark of every power system to exist in anime. While you're technically not wrong about it breaking a couple of rules it established prior, it still appears questionable to criticize it for that considering its power system still reigns above any other. "Discontinued plot"; "no ending" The same thing. And neither passes as valid criticism. An on-going story being on-going is not a flaw. "generic villains" Comparing villains like the Phantom Troupe, Hisoka and the king to villains of other shounen such as Blackbeard, AoF, and Father... the comicality of that point speaks for itself I suppose. "mediocre art/animation" There's no anime of HxH's length that even remotely matches the consistency and quality of HxH's visuals. "80% boring, horrible storytelling, annoyingly stupid" Very convincing line of argumentation. With vague critique like that, it appears you gave up at that point. Guess you couldn't think of anything to complain about. The power system in HxH doesn't reign above other. Every power system in shounen don't make any sense and it's all about the choreography and fight style anyway. But HxH takes the cake for having the most bullshits of all since it's written so that the writer can pull out any level ups asspulls he want and justify it by limitation or sacrifice or some other bullshit. It removes all the thrill when you consider that all the character needed in order to level up was to trade something since they were already gifted since born. There are barely any foreshadowing in HxH and barely any connection between arcs. It is the most discontinued show I've ever seen. I'm not comparing villain to other shounen. Meruem is utterly generic. Awfully evil villain doing evil thing until he realize it's not good to do evil thing so he stopped being evil. I'm generalizing, but it's exactly that anyway, there is no character depth in Meruem and the themes used in this arcs were laughably stupids. I don't remember the other villain of the show since they are forgettable. While Chrollo seems a better villain, we've not even had a dedicated arc for him yet, he only was introduced in YNC arc and that's it so I don't think he really counts. The storytelling in HxH is particularly bad. Relying on a narrator to explain every plot point is not a good storytelling. Also, no wonder why the characters are so inconsistent. The author really have no idea how to write a long running story when every arcs are disjoint to each other. It feels like watching a different show with different characters after each arcs. |
| Yeah it’s definitely up there for most overrated on MAL. I normally don’t care much about others opinions but, it really annoys me how people praise this to have so much “depth” and how it “stands out from other shonens”, without providing any examples to substantiate those claims. It reallllllly annoys me. It has some of the worst writing of the bigger battle shonens, the writing has very little depth, some arcs are stagnant and boring, and some characters are flat out trash from an objective standpoint. (Looking at you Mureum) I could write multiple essays about character development/maturing in Naruto, or about all the philosophical questions it posses than can be applied to real life and can teach valid lessons (l.e. Itachis quote about reality being equivocal). The only moment of any symbolical depth in HxH was when Gon questioned how the Phantoom Troop could show remorse for each other but treat society so remorseless. The character development in HxH is laughable, and the cell ripoff’s instant change from sadistic world conqueror to loli lover is disgustingly trash. Bad anime bad anime bad anime. |
| Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
| Definitely Overrated. The Chimera Ant arc in particular is massively over-praised to the point it's ridiculous. But I wouldn't call it THE MOST overrated cause that title solely belongs to Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood |
| The fact that you think that HxH is overrated is evidence that your mind is severely damaged. So there's really nothing to change there. |
| Hxh, the most overrated anime in my opinion..wanna know why?you will! First and foremost. hxh is rated very high in mal and people actually seem to watch anime based on the rating or the score that the anime has.That is a big mistake. Many people give rating without caring, they rate anime without having even watched them and they rate anime without finishing, liking ,hating the show for their reasons.So I dont want to make this comment while having in my mind that hxh is rated that high while having the above in mind. Moreover, hxh doesnt differ from other shounen .The animation is simiral with anme that aired the same time hxh did and i dont get why some people rate its animetion so high while the same exact animation exists. Furthermore, hxh was very boring and i even had to watch some of its episodes on 2x and even skip some parts in view of the fact that it was too tedious.The plot had potential but it vanished . It started of VERY GOOD! The first arc was probably a 10 for me and if the anime continued as it started why wouldnt i rate it with a 10? I didnt give it a 10 bcs it wasnt woth it and i was being unbiased when scoring it. From all the shounen that i have watched op is the best and it wasnt even close . Hxh wasnt and isnt close to the masterpiece , called One Piece. Having watched both of them i can say that op had times where I felt emotions that i had never felt before.Hxh didnt provide you with emotions. If you dont bare in my mind the great fight scenes, there isnt anything more to it.To sum up, i believe that hxh is overrated in vuew of the fact that it didnt contain what people said it would and it is said from many people to be the best , but in my eyes it wasnt and that is what OVERRATED means. |
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| >Has MHA in favs >Has OP in favs >Calls hxh overrated  |
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| Yes it's most overrated and I wont change your mind. |
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Hokage_Jason said: Yeah it’s definitely up there for most overrated on MAL. I normally don’t care much about others opinions but, it really annoys me how people praise this to have so much “depth” and how it “stands out from other shonens”, without providing any examples to substantiate those claims. It reallllllly annoys me. It has some of the worst writing of the bigger battle shonens, the writing has very little depth, some arcs are stagnant and boring, and some characters are flat out trash from an objective standpoint. (Looking at you Mureum) I could write multiple essays about character development/maturing in Naruto, or about all the philosophical questions it posses than can be applied to real life and can teach valid lessons (l.e. Itachis quote about reality being equivocal). The only moment of any symbolical depth in HxH was when Gon questioned how the Phantoom Troop could show remorse for each other but treat society so remorseless. The character development in HxH is laughable, and the cell ripoff’s instant change from sadistic world conqueror to loli lover is disgustingly trash. Bad anime bad anime bad anime. I was just joking around since I already deem this thread as a throw-away one, but damn does it get so much more interesting. I wanna keep this civil. Since you state this publicly, I wanna ask you few things. First of all, what is the philosophy behind Naruto? For me, I'd argue the biggest one is about how hardships and isolation are nothing comparing to what you are capable of (something like that, dispute me if you disagree). I'll be more straight-forward, the show attempts to portray an underdog and how he can become what he wants if he really wants it. Now this is where the philosophy contradicts itself, and it's insanely infuriating to me. Now let's question ourselves the valuable lesson presented in Naruto. Naruto is not hardworking, unless there's some sort of real threat. And yet he always whines about striving to become the next Hokage or some shit. Naruto is not an underdog. He holds almost unlimited power if you think about it, and can always outfuck every opponent ever with his gifted potentials. So, it's true he suffers from isolation, yet seeing how this show tries to portray an underdog, wanting something and eventually is able to attain it, is almost laughable if we take into consideration his actions overall (not words) as well as his talent, which has become the most convenient plot armor ever. No, the talented reigns. Naruto is a literal embodiment of those amongst the most gifted human beings. Watching it should make you feel insecure rather than more determined. Of course I won't disregard his character growth. From being unable to control his rage and immense power as well as a retarded mouth-full-hypocrisy kid to Mary Sue whose philosophy is basically flawless (about being hypocritical, such isn't necessarily a bad thing. Gon is after all, and I appreciate how the show Naruto does present it in a non-virtuous way, well that is of course until what happens later on). So, in short, what is the philosophy of Naruto? Also, Naruto growing from being a flawed person to a perfect one is, without a doubt, the most unbelievably quixotic way to characterize. Edit: After this, let's discuss about about Hunter x Hunter. Let's talk about the stupid development of Gon and Killua, or of Chrollo or palace invasion related ants to see why I absolutely adore it. I hope I'll be the first one ever to give some substantial points or whatever. I find it incredibly hysterical though, since a lot of solid points have been raised as to why HxH is universally acclaimed, so I really don't know where you get that "no substantiate examples" from. But that's not important, unless you're not open to discussions of course. |
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