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Apr 20, 2020 11:20 AM
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To preface all this, I haven't looked into forums much in the past, so I don't have too much of an idea of what is talked about. So if this is your 1000th time seeing a "Gintama is underrated" thread, then oops, my bad... Also, Gintama is my favorite anime of all time. I'm more or less just curious how a majority of people think of Gintama.

To get to the point, maybe Gintama isn't underrated in terms of rating, but I'm talking in terms of popularity. There is little to no mention of Gintama as a best anime of all time. Is it cause there is a heavy emphasis on comedy, which is heavily subjective and it may not do it for a majority of people? Then there's something like HxH that can put a good story with good plot elements and whatnot to get legendary status. Not taking anything away from HxH though. I'm not trying to compare them as series, but just trying to understand what Gintama would have to do to be considered a best of all time, but can't be done anymore cause the manga ended.

Or maybe it's just me seeing Gintama not get enough love. Or maybe I just want to talk about Gintama, Idk.
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Apr 20, 2020 11:26 AM
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It's not underrated, I feel like some seasons of it are actually overrated. It's also very popular for a show that's relatively hard to get into.
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Apr 20, 2020 11:28 AM
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Underrated? Not enough love? You're trolling or mentally ill
Apr 20, 2020 11:30 AM
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Gintama? Never heard of it, let me check its wiki page.
Apr 20, 2020 11:34 AM
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ickx said:
Underrated? Not enough love? You're trolling or mentally ill


Lol, chill. You could easily say "You're not seeing the love", which is something I said might be the case. No need to say I'm mentally ill, lol
Apr 20, 2020 11:36 AM
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I think Gintama is not hated enough.
Apr 20, 2020 11:36 AM
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LanePlayer said:
ickx said:
Underrated? Not enough love? You're trolling or mentally ill


Lol, chill. You could easily say "You're not seeing the love", which is something I said might be the case. No need to say I'm mentally ill, lol


My bad my friend, although I might become mentally ill myself from another Gintama thread is underrated post lol
Apr 20, 2020 11:37 AM
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Not as much as Hunter x Hunter, Steins;Gate and FMA:B
Apr 20, 2020 11:39 AM
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It's not underrated, I feel like some seasons of it are actually overrated. It's also very popular for a show that's relatively hard to get into.


I do agree some seasons might be. I know it's popular, but not to the degree of One Piece or HxH. Overall, I feel like I see many more posts about series like One Piece, which is obvious cause it's One Piece, and HxH as being a best of all time.
Apr 20, 2020 11:41 AM
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ickx said:
LanePlayer said:


Lol, chill. You could easily say "You're not seeing the love", which is something I said might be the case. No need to say I'm mentally ill, lol


My bad my friend, although I might become mentally ill myself from another Gintama thread is underrated post lol


<3 No homo if you a dude. Nice to hear other perspectives.
Apr 20, 2020 11:41 AM

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just trying to understand what Gintama would have to do to be considered a best of all time
I think it would've needed to cut down the amount of comedy and episodic content, instead focus mainly on the story. Moreover it should've been more edgy and pretentious about its themes instead of being straight up about nakama.

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Apr 20, 2020 11:42 AM

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Underrated? Absolutely not, like almost every iteration of it is in top 100. It's just niche af with a lot of meta humor, the sheer length probably puts off some people too.
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Apr 20, 2020 11:42 AM
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Not as much as Hunter x Hunter, Steins;Gate and FMA:B


Really? You see more talk about Gintama than those?
Apr 20, 2020 11:43 AM

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I don't care for it. I watched 1-2 episodes of it many years ago and bailed!

Youtube clips of it and what I've seen online haven't convinced me to give it a chance either. That said, given how I'm usually disappointed by what most anime fans consider great, I doubt I'd find it compelling or worthwhile to pick up again.
Apr 20, 2020 11:43 AM
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Nefelupitou said:
I don't know about Gintama, but Sangatsu no Lion is underrated, even though its score is 9


True. Dropped it even though I was liking it. Prob should get back into it.
Apr 20, 2020 11:44 AM

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Your arguments don't mean shit if the main start you've given to boast your opinion goes along with the lines of "no one considers *insert animu* the best anime of all time, this is so sad!" or something like that. Even then, you're so wrong on this. Maybe try to familiarize with the fandom because a great, heavy and fleshy chunk of gintama fans do put the series on a such high pedestrial.

The fanbase is one of the most loyal ones out there. People don't bother with the series simply because it's a long-running shonen that also happens to be "inconsistent". Even then, 6 of top 15 anime are gintama seasons and a movie included. Don't know what more can you ask for, OP!

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Apr 20, 2020 11:47 AM

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Giving Gintama a score of 10/10, is still an underrating!
I vote that MAL rating system, instead of being "1, 2 ,3 ,4 ,5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10" Make it be a scoring of system of "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Gintama" even though the score of Gintama is only attainable by Gintama, I see no problem with this.
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Apr 20, 2020 11:47 AM
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Let just say many ppl opt for the other long series than gintama. Gintama is quality filler. It's underrated if you were to compare to the other long run series. idk about short run series tho
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Apr 20, 2020 11:48 AM

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Gintama is just something that's not very easy to get into. I say this as someone who is fully aware of how highly rated and praised it is, yet is unable to start watching it. This is mostly because the whole concept and vibe of the show are not extremely appealing at first glance. Add to that the fact that the first season is 200 episodes long. I could end up watching 10 shorter and more appealing shows in the same time that it'd take me to watch the first season of Gintama. So yeah the choice ends up being quite easy.
Apr 20, 2020 11:49 AM

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It’s talked about quite a bit, you don’t get 5 different Gintamas’ in The top 15 whilst not being talked about. The first season has 600,000 members which is pretty high. I would say it’s not an anime that’s easy to actually start especially today, I find the large episode count rather intimidating. Would I say Gintama is underrated? No. Would I say it’s easy to get into Gintama? No.
Apr 20, 2020 11:49 AM
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Hrybami said:
I think Gintama is not hated enough.


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.
Apr 20, 2020 11:50 AM
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I love Gintama but how much you enjoy it depends on your sense of humor.
I also love all of the references.
I don't think it is underrated, just fine how it is.
Apr 20, 2020 11:52 AM

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Let just say many ppl opt for the other long series than gintama. Gintama is quality filler. It's underrated if you were to compare to the other long run series. idk about short run series tho

Gintama really should get the "Slice of Life" tag, because it kind of is. And without this tag, people expect it to have more direction and a solid plot, but the plot is THERE IS NO PLOT (even when there is).
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Apr 20, 2020 11:53 AM

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LanePlayer said:
Hrybami said:
I think Gintama is not hated enough.


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.


That's because if we dare speak up, some Gintama fan will insult us and say we have "shit taste". >_>



Apr 20, 2020 11:55 AM

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Underrated means that people rate it lower than it should be.

Under watched is a better term. And even as a Gintama fan myself I can see why. It's long and it's humor can be hit or miss.
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Your arguments don't mean shit if the main start you've given to boast your opinion goes along with the lines of "no one considers *insert animu* the best anime of all time, this is so sad!" or something like that. Even then, you're so wrong on this. Maybe try to familiarize with the fandom because a great, heavy and fleshy chunk of gintama fans do put the series on a such high pedestrial.

The fanbase is one of the most loyal ones out there. People don't bother with the series simply because it's a long-running shonen that also happens to be "inconsistent". Even then, 6 of top 15 anime are gintama seasons and a movie included. Don't know what more can you ask for, OP!


I'm not saying it's sad, lol. Just interested in hearing opinions. But all sequel seasons will have higher ratings because the ones who liked the first season will watch it, while the ones who didn't won't watch it. So ratings will be biased towards later seasons. So I generally only look at first season ratings, which Gintama first season still has a very high rating.
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LanePlayer said:
Hrybami said:
I think Gintama is not hated enough.


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.
Whenever I post anything about Gintama on my SNS there are atleast 10 people who say"Gintama is Overrated".
There is one thread every other week which complain Gintama is overrated and all its sequels must be merged into single entity as they take up space in the top 💯.
Apr 20, 2020 11:57 AM
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LanePlayer said:


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.


That's because if we dare speak up, some Gintama fan will insult us and say we have "shit taste". >_>


Lol, true. There are toxic fans everywhere.
Apr 20, 2020 11:58 AM

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Giving Gintama a score of 10/10, is still an underrating!
I vote that MAL rating system, instead of being "1, 2 ,3 ,4 ,5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10" Make it be a scoring of system of "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Gintama" even though the score of Gintama is only attainable by Gintama, I see no problem with this.
Have you actually tried reading his post? He acknowledges the high rating but it's not about that. It's about the reputation because Gintama unlike the other mentioned anime is almost never seen as "deep" or having "good plot". People like it because it's entertaining and funny to them but you'd rarely see Gintama brought up as best anime in a "serious" way.

Even tho all things considered HxH, Steins;Gate and FMA aren't much deeper than Gintama, Gintama doesn't try to present itself too seriously because it knows it's a battle shounen and keeps it battle shonen. Meanwhile Steins;Gate is basically a harem anime too with bullshit time reset asspulls but that gets ignored because overall it presents itself much more seriously.

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LanePlayer said:


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.
Whenever I post anything about Gintama on my SNS there are atleast 10 people who say"Gintama is Overrated".
There is one thread every other week which complain Gintama is overrated and all its sequels must be merged into single entity as they take up space in the top 💯.
I am a big fan of Gintama but I do agree MAL should change their database to be more like IMDb where you can rate the series overall as well as each season singularly then show only the series in the global rankings.
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sonofbatmanrp13 said:
LanePlayer said:


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.
Whenever I post anything about Gintama on my SNS there are atleast 10 people who say"Gintama is Overrated".
There is one thread every other week which complain Gintama is overrated and all its sequels must be merged into single entity as they take up space in the top 💯.


I should probably have made my post clearer. I thought my post was going to get ignored.

I mean Gintama is not hated enough compared to other highly rated shounen (SnK, HxH, KnY, Jojo, just to name a few.) or compared to the rest of the top 10.

But i guess it's subjective and we could always find something less hated than the other.
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sonofbatmanrp13 said:
LanePlayer said:


Actually good point. There is little mention of how people actually hate/dislike it. It's more along the lines of the comedy is not for them opinion, which is valid. Which may be another thing about comedies. People see it's subjective, so they give it more breathing space if they don't like the comedy.
Whenever I post anything about Gintama on my SNS there are atleast 10 people who say"Gintama is Overrated".
There is one thread every other week which complain Gintama is overrated and all its sequels must be merged into single entity as they take up space in the top 💯.


Well, guess I don't see both the hate and love then.
Apr 20, 2020 12:23 PM

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@Zal

Yes, I did read the post. And I think you just don't get my sense of humor...

I am well aware of the subtle and actually pretty deep plot that Gintama has. But even that plot, is played off as a joke. Gintama, and Gintoki, aren't my favorites for nothing.

And (sorry off topic) about Steins;Gate. Okabe, I see as just a guy that has a lot of platonic female friends, none of which are all gaga over him (the only one infatuated with Okabe... is actually a guy). So, I wouldn't class it as a harem in any regard.
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Apr 20, 2020 12:24 PM
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its underrated for what its worth many people tend to drop the show after the first few eps not giving it a shot but if you get past the start of maintain you will see its one of the best anime released
not to mention its a long running shonen it should be a lot more popular
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Thread locked for not encouraging discussion.

Threads about ranking and/or scores just encourage flame wars between people who liked the show and people who disliked it. They don't promote any kind of actual discussion.

You may also use this thread if you want to talk about overrated/underrated anime.

Not to mention that Gintama had a lot of these threads already. There's even an old one about it being underrated here.
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