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Feb 29, 2020 5:03 PM

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you just gotta wait for the good parts to hit
i have no doubts the score will reach at least 7.9 or even into the 8.0 range when the anime ends.

Kangchenjunga said:
I dropped it after one episode :/ Felt like a poor man's Noragami for shotacon/lolicon fans. Seriously, how am I supposed to believe Nene is a high schooler when she looks 5?
the tone and plot of this show doesn't match the art. it's far from cute/slice of life-ish/light-hearted. it's way darker and angsty than you may think.

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Tbh I couldn't make it to ep 2 even, I failed the 3-episodes drop rule
The problems of this anime as many other ppl have mentioned so far, the animation budget is probably 0. The story is N/A, and finally, this looks like a reverse-harem anime or something that's more attracted by "young" female audiences, The "cover poster" of the anime even looks like a reverse-harem anime, and the characters tbh are just ... ugh, too bland maybe ? I can't even describe it. *facepalm*

don't drop it. there is a story and once it really gets going you'll see it's nothing like you expected. it's not a reverse-harem and it's definitely not intended for the "young" or "female" audience. It's like Re: Zero, from the cover you'd think it's a harem isekai when in reality it's a psychological thriller. Same with this anime. It'll soon become extremely dark and twisted. Please don't judge it based on the art or the cover poster. That's superficial.
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SenpaiMars-Barz said:
My question is why the manga is rated so much higher....the animation and story telling are pretty stellar and capture the manga style seamlessly from what I've seen.....so why the manga so much higher? Doesnt even really seem like an 8.66 series imo going off the anime, definitely an 8+ but there are a lot of similar stories out there with more original execution....does the manga just get that good later on?

The manga is really good, and has been since the start. This is by comparing the manga where the anime is right now. When the manga was in the current arc in the anime, it had a much different feel, since the execution in the manga was on point. The issue with the anime was the fact that two important arcs were cut off, arcs that were supposed to solidify the characterization of Hanako and Yashiro, making them genuine characters that you could actually care about. In the anime however, since those two arcs were cut, Hanako and Yashiro became rather stale and boring, at least compared to their manga counterparts. If I would give the manga a rating of 9, the anime is like 7 or 8, depending on how they will end it. (If they cut more content, I will rate it 7, otherwise it's an 8)
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I think it's good, but not on the level of greatness. I find it enjoyable but I think there are better seasonals out there
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guych said:
I think it's good, but not on the level of greatness. I find it enjoyable but I think there are better seasonals out there

Manga is definitely great, the anime just didn't do the manga justice.
Feb 29, 2020 10:03 PM
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Is the animation really that bad?
Feb 29, 2020 10:49 PM

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I avoided this title and didn't give it a shot till much later because of the art and animation, it looked more cartoonish to me, it certainly didn't help that the first episode was quite terrible. I ended up putting this on hold and then picked it up again after catching up with all the others that I was watching. It gets really good later on but people really need to give it a chance, maybe there are more like me but they ended up dropping it after the first episode.
Mar 5, 2020 9:33 PM

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Is the animation really that bad?


Not really; it's limited...but it's a stylistic choice over 'we don't have money'. The artwork is so beautiful and stylish that I find it a treat to watch, personally.



Mar 27, 2020 4:48 AM

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It's not a dumb isekai/shounen powerfantasy, that's why.
Mar 27, 2020 7:43 AM

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SenpaiMars-Barz said:
My question is why the manga is rated so much higher....the animation and story telling are pretty stellar and capture the manga style seamlessly from what I've seen.....so why the manga so much higher? Doesnt even really seem like an 8.66 series imo going off the anime, definitely an 8+ but there are a lot of similar stories out there with more original execution....does the manga just get that good later on?


The anime skips some manga Arc . The story in anime is confusing especially after Eps 8
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко-
Mar 27, 2020 11:16 AM
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this show has a low score, unfortunately. as a reader manga, i can say
- slow start but hype scene later
- chara development
- from a cute scenery to a dark creepy one
- the author focused a lot on the growth of each character, and they did not adapt the most powerful ones
- there are 3 of the mysteries ( in the anime) still not shown, and yes, a big surprise

this is a show which you can really underestimate at the beginning, because ogf the plot and the artstyle. but starting from a particular scene, it's totally different.
i wouldn't have bet on this one, but i can surely say it's a great show
Mar 27, 2020 11:22 AM

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Kangchenjunga said:
I dropped it after one episode :/ Felt like a poor man's Noragami for shotacon/lolicon fans. Seriously, how am I supposed to believe Nene is a high schooler when she looks 5?


Does this answer your question, OP? People like him is why.
Mar 28, 2020 10:17 AM

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Kangchenjunga said:
I dropped it after one episode :/ Felt like a poor man's Noragami for shotacon/lolicon fans. Seriously, how am I supposed to believe Nene is a high schooler when she looks 5?


the manga is obviously made by a shotacon, the mangaka draws a lot of fanservice stuff for shotacons and the art style is typical shota/lolicon bait

the anime is pretty popular, at least on twitter? so many people got into it bc of the anime which is irritating to me bc to me the anime is pretty average? on the other hand, as a manga reader i was constantly comparing anime and manga and the manga is way better and thats why i was disappointed, idk i expected more. maybe i would have rated it higher if i was an anime only but rn its a 5 to me
the animation was bad, the jokes didnt work/were much better in the manga and hanakos voice is just... idk i couldnt get used to it and imo the voice doesnt suit him
Mar 28, 2020 10:38 AM
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nabuka said:
Kangchenjunga said:
I dropped it after one episode :/ Felt like a poor man's Noragami for shotacon/lolicon fans. Seriously, how am I supposed to believe Nene is a high schooler when she looks 5?


the manga is obviously made by a shotacon, the mangaka draws a lot of fanservice stuff for shotacons and the art style is typical shota/lolicon bait

the anime is pretty popular, at least on twitter? so many people got into it bc of the anime which is irritating to me bc to me the anime is pretty average? on the other hand, as a manga reader i was constantly comparing anime and manga and the manga is way better and thats why i was disappointed, idk i expected more. maybe i would have rated it higher if i was an anime only but rn its a 5 to me
the animation was bad, the jokes didnt work/were much better in the manga and hanakos voice is just... idk i couldnt get used to it and imo the voice doesnt suit him


Honestly, what's wrong with you, people? This series has nothing to do with shotacon/lolicon stuff. Just because the characters are cute, this doesn't mean the manga is that kind of thing! Stop, you see sex everywhere, guys. You are sick. Hanako is around 13 years old, Yashiro is around 15, how are they supposed to look, 30 years old? But this series has zero fanservice, it's simply a well written mystery/comedy/drama/fantasy series, with a beautiful and unique art style, very detailed, a joy for the eyes. I dont' think the characters look 5 years old, what's wrong with your eyes, I wonder. They aren't particularly short, they are normal. They have simply very big eyes, like in most of anime/manga. The series appeals mainly a young female audience, maybe because of the strong romance elements, but it's perfect for anyone wants to read a nice story that isn't your typical stereotyped shounen or shojo manga, indeed I think it's perfect both for males and females.
About the comparison with Noragami, I think Hanako-kun manga is way better than Noragami manga, everything is superior: the art, the characters, the plot.
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SenpaiMars-Barz said:
My question is why the manga is rated so much higher....the animation and story telling are pretty stellar and capture the manga style seamlessly from what I've seen.....so why the manga so much higher? Doesnt even really seem like an 8.66 series imo going off the anime, definitely an 8+ but there are a lot of similar stories out there with more original execution....does the manga just get that good later on?

The manga is pretty much ok until a certain arc hits and subverts expectations really well, I get why the score is so high.
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In this manga, you can say clearly the difference in the age of the characters, unlike what happens in many manga, where also the parents of the characters look teens. In this pic, we see Hanako, Kou and Teru, and it's clear how Teru is the older one, and we can say he is at least 16/17 years old. Hanako and Kou are around 13/14 years old, Kou looks a bit more mature than Hanako, but around that age it's normal some kid can look older or younger than his age. Nobody looks 5 years old, stop this bul*shit, thanks.
Mar 28, 2020 11:06 AM
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About the question of this thread, it doesn't make any sense. The anime is actually rather popular, especially in Japan. I think it's not the best adaptation this manga could get, but it's good enough. The anime is 7.5 and the manga is at least 9, in my opinion. Hanako-kun is great if you love unpredictable mystery stories full of plot twists. I don't know why some people need to create threads like this where people who watched only one episode of the anime think they can know why manga readers like me, adore this story so much. It's not only because the art style is nice, we have our reasons.
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In this manga, you can say clearly the difference in the age of the characters, unlike what happens in many manga, where also the parents of the characters look teens. In this pic, we see Hanako, Kou and Teru, and it's clear how Teru is the older one, and we can say he is at least 16/17 years old. Hanako and Kou are around 13/14 years old, Kou looks a bit more mature than Hanako, but around that age it's normal some kid can look older or younger than his age. Nobody looks 5 years old, stop this bul*shit, thanks.


i dont even know how you can look at this picture and compare them to real teens/kids lol no real human being looks like that, it doesnt even make sense to compare them to real humans bc they dont look like real humans in the first place or have you ever seen a human without noses, lips and with xxl eyes? lol no real 13 y/o or 15 y/o human looks like hanako or yashino bc the artstyle is exremely unrealistic


if you honestly think this looks like an average 15 y/o human girl then idk


this isnt completely realistic either but she looks WAY more like a 15 y/o than yashiro does

also
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nabuka said:
momoka16 said:


In this manga, you can say clearly the difference in the age of the characters, unlike what happens in many manga, where also the parents of the characters look teens. In this pic, we see Hanako, Kou and Teru, and it's clear how Teru is the older one, and we can say he is at least 16/17 years old. Hanako and Kou are around 13/14 years old, Kou looks a bit more mature than Hanako, but around that age it's normal some kid can look older or younger than his age. Nobody looks 5 years old, stop this bul*shit, thanks.


i dont even know how you can look at this picture and compare them to real teens/kids lol no real human being looks like that, it doesnt even make sense to compare them to real humans bc they dont look like real humans in the first place or have you ever seen a human without noses, lips and with xxl eyes? lol no real 13 y/o or 15 y/o human looks like hanako or yashino bc the artstyle is exremely unrealistic


if you honestly think this looks like an average 15 y/o human girl then idk


this isnt completely realistic either but she looks WAY more like a 15 y/o than yashiro does

also


Are you serious? I never compared the characters to real people, the art style is obvioulsy unrealistic but you can't say the characters look 5 years old just because they don't look real people. It's stupid. And no, sorry, but also Naruto art style isn't realistic enough, despite the characters have small eyes compared to other manga. I don't see how Sakura looks older than Yashiro.
Just because Yashiro has big eyes and a pretty dress, this doesn't mean she looks 5 years old.
Kou's sister is 5 years old, and Yashiro doesn't look like her.

About your pics in spoiler, which is your point? You should know the context, if you read the manga. It's not fanservice.
Mar 28, 2020 11:54 AM
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In this picture, you can clearly say that Yashiro is way older than the kid, who is 8/9 years old.


You can see how these characters age, and the adults don't look like kids.
Tsuchigomori doesn't look like a teen. Yashiro's parents don't look like kids.
Seriously, if you people think that every art style where the characters have very big eyes is shotacon/lolicon art style, you are rather ignorant about Japanese animation and comics.
Hanako-kun's art style isn't Lucky Star's art style.
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momoka16 said:

I don't see how Sakura looks older than Yashiro.


so youre trying to tell me that these two characters look the same to you age-wise?


you also dont have to be so defensive, just bc yashiro and hanako are typical loli/shotacon bait doesnt mean that YOU cant like it? but you honestly cant tell me that "a shotacon wouldnt like the artstyle bc it looks too mature" lol theres nothing mature looking about the art, they all look extremly young and childlike
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nabuka said:
momoka16 said:

I don't see how Sakura looks older than Yashiro.


so youre trying to tell me that these two characters look the same to you age-wise?


you also dont have to be so defensive, just bc yashiro and hanako are typical loli/shotacon bait doesnt mean that YOU cant like it? but you honestly cant tell me that "a shotacon wouldnt like the artstyle bc it looks too mature" lol theres nothing mature looking about the art, they all look extremly young and childlike


I'm sorry, but you are showing all your ignorance about manga and anime. So, do you think that big eyes = shotacon/lolicon art style.
This is completely stupid.
Do you even know how many manga and anime have an art style with huge eyes, without being made to be liked by lolicons/shotacons?
This is Saint Tail

A classic shoujo manga/anime from the 90s. Is it for lolicons/shotacons? Absolutely NO.
The target is young girls. Same for TONS of other manga and anime. Another example, Kilari:

Same target.
The main target of Hanako-kun is obvioulsy young girls, despite it's a shounen manga.
There's PLENTY of merchandising about this series developed for young girls, the supposed "lolicons/shotacons" whose you are speaking.
You are seriously CONFUSED.
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When I say the main target of Hanako-kun is young girls, I don't mean to say the story is childish. The story is rather mature. By young girls I mean obviously teenagers, people who have the same age of Hanako and the other characters.
This manga/anime isn't for creepy adults who want to read/watch lolicon/shotacon stuff. It's not developed for them. Period. The fact that some lolicons/shotacons can find this kind of art style sexually attractive has NOTHING to do with the target of the series. Exactly like nobody cares if some lolicon finds Meimi (the protagonistof Saint Tail) and Kilari attractive, those series remain simply shoujo manga/anime developed for young girls.
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When I say the main target of Hanako-kun is young girls, I don't mean to say the story is childish. The story is rather mature. By young girls I mean obviously teenagers, people who have the same age of Hanako and the other characters.
This manga/anime isn't for creepy adults who want to read/watch lolicon/shotacon stuff. It's not developed for them. Period. The fact that some lolicons/shotacons can find this kind of art style sexually attractive has NOTHING to do with the target of the series. Exactly like nobody cares if some lolicon finds Meimi (the protagonistof Saint Tail) and Kilari attractive, those series remain simply shoujo manga/anime developed for young girls.


hanako is my favourite lolicon, that creepy 60 y/o man in a body of child is really into little girls like yashiro isnt he

no honestly i have no idea why youre so defensive, just like the stuff you like. if youre into stuff like hanako-kun then you just have to accept that a big amount of your fandom will be shota/lolicons, theres no point in trying to deny that hanako being a suggestive perv isnt perfect fanservice for shotacons
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nabuka said:
momoka16 said:
When I say the main target of Hanako-kun is young girls, I don't mean to say the story is childish. The story is rather mature. By young girls I mean obviously teenagers, people who have the same age of Hanako and the other characters.
This manga/anime isn't for creepy adults who want to read/watch lolicon/shotacon stuff. It's not developed for them. Period. The fact that some lolicons/shotacons can find this kind of art style sexually attractive has NOTHING to do with the target of the series. Exactly like nobody cares if some lolicon finds Meimi (the protagonistof Saint Tail) and Kilari attractive, those series remain simply shoujo manga/anime developed for young girls.


hanako is my favourite lolicon, that creepy 60 y/o man in a body of child is really into little girls like yashiro isnt he

no honestly i have no idea why youre so defensive, just like the stuff you like. if youre into stuff like hanako-kun then you just have to accept that a big amount of your fandom will be shota/lolicons, theres no point in trying to deny that hanako being a suggestive perv isnt perfect fanservice for shotacons


I don't understand if you are serious or not anymore, because what you are writing is too much stupid. I'm not "defensive", it's just that you are forcing your distorted idea about anime/manga on me, but no matter what, it is completely WRONG.
Again, the main target of this series are NOT lolicons/shotacons.
According to your absurd logic this anime

is for creepy furries, just because some of them could find these characters attractive, despite the series is for children.
About Hanako's age, I hope you are kidding...Ghosts don't age in human terms.
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@nabuka: Honestly, if you are reading Hanako-kun just to satisfy you personal sexual preferences, you shouldn't project your motivations on other people.
The main target of this series isn't the people that you are suggesting.
Hanako character isn't thought to be liked mainly by old men and women with weird fetish, but by teenagers.
By looking your profile, I noticed you like the Monogatari series...I think that stuff is perfect for you. >_>
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@nabuka: Honestly, if you are reading Hanako-kun just to satisfy you personal sexual preferences, you shouldn't project your motivations on other people.
The main target of this series isn't the people that you are suggesting.
Hanako character isn't thought to be liked mainly by old men and women with weird fetish, but by teenagers.
By looking your profile, I noticed you like the Monogatari series...I think that stuff is perfect for you. >_>


you're acting as if someone has to be an 40 y/o man to be a loli/shotacon lol

exactly, araragi, mc from the monogatari series, is a teen AND a lolicon

awesome isnt it

and yes the monogatari series is really good, i do have hanako-kun (the manga!) in my MAL favourites as well bc its cute and fun to read but the characters and the story arent special at all so if i have to compare these two.. monogataris characters and the story and especially the dialogues are superior
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The fact that it isn't as epic as the manga

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Maybe cuz is a shoujo, for some reason all shoujos here on MAL have an average of 7
... Why ??? I have no idea, i think IS the phalacy that if something is cute and has romance then is Bad, cuz you know is for women, women hace bastante taste , I'm right ? ... Fanboys are always like that, for some reason they keep on giving low scores to shoujos, btw the best rating shoujos on this site IS 8s but shonen ohhhh no shonen here have 8s and 9s ... And you think why is that ? Are they better ? Nooooooo , fanboys thinks they are better i have watched better stories and characters developmemt in shoujo than in a bunch of shonen, and that COMES FROM SOMEONE Who their favorite animes are shonen xD and seinen xDDD

But i love shoujo, shoujo are good, shoujos are Life !!! And this site treat shoujo wrong xD
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nabuka said:
momoka16 said:
@nabuka: Honestly, if you are reading Hanako-kun just to satisfy you personal sexual preferences, you shouldn't project your motivations on other people.
The main target of this series isn't the people that you are suggesting.
Hanako character isn't thought to be liked mainly by old men and women with weird fetish, but by teenagers.
By looking your profile, I noticed you like the Monogatari series...I think that stuff is perfect for you. >_>


you're acting as if someone has to be an 40 y/o man to be a loli/shotacon lol

exactly, araragi, mc from the monogatari series, is a teen AND a lolicon

awesome isnt it

and yes the monogatari series is really good, i do have hanako-kun (the manga!) in my MAL favourites as well bc its cute and fun to read but the characters and the story arent special at all so if i have to compare these two.. monogataris characters and the story and especially the dialogues are superior


In Hanako-kun there aren't disgusting "gags" with teenagers who sexually harrass elementary school children. I dropped the Monogatari series because only the first season was someway acceptable, sadly it's basically only a harem anime for old perverts, without any real content. It's only some pretentious typical "girl of the week" thing, with 90% of squalid fanservice and 10% of crappy dialogues that pretend to be deep.
In Hanako-kun the characters have big eyes, like in tons of other manga, especially in shoujo manga. Simply this, you don't understand that the target of a series isn't determined by the size of the characters' eyes, for this reason you sound ridicoulous. Big eyes aren't an exclusive thing of "lolicon/shotacon" crap.
I doubt you even actually read Hanako-kun manga, honestly.
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Maybe cuz is a shoujo, for some reason all shoujos here on MAL have an average of 7
... Why ??? I have no idea, i think IS the phalacy that if something is cute and has romance then is Bad, cuz you know is for women, women hace bastante taste , I'm right ? ... Fanboys are always like that, for some reason they keep on giving low scores to shoujos, btw the best rating shoujos on this site IS 8s but shonen ohhhh no shonen here have 8s and 9s ... And you think why is that ? Are they better ? Nooooooo , fanboys thinks they are better i have watched better stories and characters developmemt in shoujo than in a bunch of shonen, and that COMES FROM SOMEONE Who their favorite animes are shonen xD and seinen xDDD

But i love shoujo, shoujo are good, shoujos are Life !!! And this site treat shoujo wrong xD


I agree with you, despite this series is "shounen", its main target are obviously women. This is one of the reasons why there are many people who belittle the series here.
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momoka16 said:
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you're acting as if someone has to be an 40 y/o man to be a loli/shotacon lol

exactly, araragi, mc from the monogatari series, is a teen AND a lolicon

awesome isnt it

and yes the monogatari series is really good, i do have hanako-kun (the manga!) in my MAL favourites as well bc its cute and fun to read but the characters and the story arent special at all so if i have to compare these two.. monogataris characters and the story and especially the dialogues are superior


In Hanako-kun there aren't disgusting "gags" with teenagers who sexually harrass elementary school children. I dropped the Monogatari series because only the first season was someway acceptable, sadly it's basically only a harem anime for old perverts, without any real content. It's only some pretentious typical "girl of the week" thing, with 90% of squalid fanservice and 10% of crappy dialogues that pretend to be deep.
In Hanako-kun the characters have big eyes, like in tons of other manga, especially in shoujo manga. Simply this, you don't understand that the target of a series isn't determined by the size of the characters' eyes, for this reason you sound ridicoulous. Big eyes aren't an exclusive thing of "lolicon/shotacon" crap.
I doubt you even actually read Hanako-kun manga, honestly.


youre right theres just hanako who constantly makes pervy jokes including "i'll have you pay me back with your body" lol but yea lets ingore that hanako is a perv
what about a crossover where hanako and araragi are best friends and they continue their pervy jokes together?

"you don't understand that the target of a series isn't determined by the size of the characters' eyes" youre the only one talking about big eyes huh the only time ive mentioned big eyes was when ive said that real human beings dont have xxl eyes, i have no idea why you were talking about eyes the whole time, ive tried to ignore it but you didnt stop lol youre pretty obsessed with big eyes arent you

and yes ive read hanako-kun but cmon, i mean i love the monogatari series but i wont try do deny that theres problematic fanservice? why are you so obsessed with trying to defend hanako-kun? to me it seems that youre afraid that people might call you a shota/lolicon and thats why youre desperately trying to defend hanako-kun from them
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nabuka said:
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In Hanako-kun there aren't disgusting "gags" with teenagers who sexually harrass elementary school children. I dropped the Monogatari series because only the first season was someway acceptable, sadly it's basically only a harem anime for old perverts, without any real content. It's only some pretentious typical "girl of the week" thing, with 90% of squalid fanservice and 10% of crappy dialogues that pretend to be deep.
In Hanako-kun the characters have big eyes, like in tons of other manga, especially in shoujo manga. Simply this, you don't understand that the target of a series isn't determined by the size of the characters' eyes, for this reason you sound ridicoulous. Big eyes aren't an exclusive thing of "lolicon/shotacon" crap.
I doubt you even actually read Hanako-kun manga, honestly.


youre right theres just hanako who constantly makes pervy jokes including "i'll have you pay me back with your body" lol but yea lets ingore that hanako is a perv
what about a crossover where hanako and araragi are best friends and they continue their pervy jokes together?

"you don't understand that the target of a series isn't determined by the size of the characters' eyes" youre the only one talking about big eyes huh the only time ive mentioned big eyes was when ive said that real human beings dont have xxl eyes, i have no idea why you were talking about eyes the whole time, ive tried to ignore it but you didnt stop lol youre pretty obsessed with big eyes arent you

and yes ive read hanako-kun but cmon, i mean i love the monogatari series but i wont try do deny that theres problematic fanservice? why are you so obsessed with trying to defend hanako-kun? to me it seems that youre afraid that people might call you a shota/lolicon and thats why youre desperately trying to defend hanako-kun from them


Are you even trying to compare Hanako to Araragi? Seriously? Hanako simply flirts with Yashiro as any male teenager could do with the girl who he likes, and this is why she calls him "perv", but honestly he does nothing really pervert. It's not something absurd like Araragi who is a high school boy who wants to see the panties of an elementary school child. Hanako is a middle school guy who likes teasing a high school girl. I can't say if you are serious at this point.
I'm not defending myself for liking Hanako-kun manga, since I think it's a perfectly healthy series. I never read or watched anything shotacon/lolicon related because I find that stuff disgusting. I dropped the Monogatari series because a lot of content was disturbing.
You are trying to create your fake target for this series, when the obvious target is young females, not lolicons/shotacons. I'm female and I'm not "young", but I don't find the characters "sexually attractive" (wtf?). You are reading this series for the wrong reasons, but it's your own problem, not of other people, or of the series itself. The characters are not children, no matter how much you think they look children and you treat them like that. There's not even any explicit sexual content, except for the possible suggestion

but even if this was the case, the topic is treated seriously, like something tragic, not like some "normal gag".
Do you want to label this series like shotacon/lolicon stuff? You are free to do it, but don't force people to agree with your stupid logic, because this manga/anime isn't obviously that kind of stuff. Do you know the fanbase of this manga? I doubt it. It's made by 90% at least by girls. And by girls, I mean teenagers who have the same age of Hanako. So, if they find Hanako attractive, there's nothing wrong about it. He has been created to be liked by them. If some old man/woman find him attractive in a sexual way...that person has some problem.
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I enjoyed it but honestly the story itself isn't that special. Plus some people just are not into the animation style.
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youre right theres just hanako who constantly makes pervy jokes including "i'll have you pay me back with your body" lol but yea lets ingore that hanako is a perv
what about a crossover where hanako and araragi are best friends and they continue their pervy jokes together?

"you don't understand that the target of a series isn't determined by the size of the characters' eyes" youre the only one talking about big eyes huh the only time ive mentioned big eyes was when ive said that real human beings dont have xxl eyes, i have no idea why you were talking about eyes the whole time, ive tried to ignore it but you didnt stop lol youre pretty obsessed with big eyes arent you

and yes ive read hanako-kun but cmon, i mean i love the monogatari series but i wont try do deny that theres problematic fanservice? why are you so obsessed with trying to defend hanako-kun? to me it seems that youre afraid that people might call you a shota/lolicon and thats why youre desperately trying to defend hanako-kun from them


Are you even trying to compare Hanako to Araragi? Seriously? Hanako simply flirts with Yashiro as any male teenager could do with the girl who he likes, and this is why she calls him "perv", but honestly he does nothing really pervert. It's not something absurd like Araragi who is a high school boy who wants to see the panties of an elementary school child. Hanako is a middle school guy who likes teasing a high school girl. I can't say if you are serious at this point.
I'm not defending myself for liking Hanako-kun manga, since I think it's a perfectly healthy series. I never read or watched anything shotacon/lolicon related because I find that stuff disgusting. I dropped the Monogatari series because a lot of content was disturbing.
You are trying to create your fake target for this series, when the obvious target is young females, not lolicons/shotacons. I'm female and I'm not "young", but I don't find the characters "sexually attractive" (wtf?). You are reading this series for the wrong reasons, but it's your own problem, not of other people, or of the series itself. The characters are not children, no matter how much you think they look children and you treat them like that. There's not even any explicit sexual content, except for the possible suggestion

but even if this was the case, the topic is treated seriously, like something tragic, not like some "normal gag".
Do you want to label this series like shotacon/lolicon stuff? You are free to do it, but don't force people to agree with your stupid logic, because this manga/anime isn't obviously that kind of stuff. Do you know the fanbase of this manga? I doubt it. It's made by 90% at least by girls. And by girls, I mean teenagers who have the same age of Hanako. So, if they find Hanako attractive, there's nothing wrong about it. He has been created to be liked by them. If some old man/woman find him attractive in a sexual way...that person has some problem.


oh you dont want hanako and araragi to be friends? then maybe you want them to be lovers? i guess thats alright too, i mean araragi seems to be into ghosts since hachikuji, the elementary school child you were talking about, is a ghost too!!

"You are reading this series for the wrong reasons" do i? whats my "reason"? lol

"The characters are not children" hanako died at 13... 13 is pretty much a child, maybe a young teen but nowhere near an adult? and did i ever say that theres explicit sexual content? no i didnt lmao there doesnt have to be explicit sexual content for a shotacon to like it, otherwise your fanbase wouldnt be full of shotacons but there are tons of shotacons in your fandom especially on twitter and its not surprising at all

i didnt force anything on you, youre forcing your weird xxl eyes fetish on me lmao "its made by 90% at least by girls" oh yes bc girls cant be perverts lol youre acting as if girls are all super pure creatures who would never have pervy thoughts lol pretty sexist
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Are you even trying to compare Hanako to Araragi? Seriously? Hanako simply flirts with Yashiro as any male teenager could do with the girl who he likes, and this is why she calls him "perv", but honestly he does nothing really pervert. It's not something absurd like Araragi who is a high school boy who wants to see the panties of an elementary school child. Hanako is a middle school guy who likes teasing a high school girl. I can't say if you are serious at this point.
I'm not defending myself for liking Hanako-kun manga, since I think it's a perfectly healthy series. I never read or watched anything shotacon/lolicon related because I find that stuff disgusting. I dropped the Monogatari series because a lot of content was disturbing.
You are trying to create your fake target for this series, when the obvious target is young females, not lolicons/shotacons. I'm female and I'm not "young", but I don't find the characters "sexually attractive" (wtf?). You are reading this series for the wrong reasons, but it's your own problem, not of other people, or of the series itself. The characters are not children, no matter how much you think they look children and you treat them like that. There's not even any explicit sexual content, except for the possible suggestion

but even if this was the case, the topic is treated seriously, like something tragic, not like some "normal gag".
Do you want to label this series like shotacon/lolicon stuff? You are free to do it, but don't force people to agree with your stupid logic, because this manga/anime isn't obviously that kind of stuff. Do you know the fanbase of this manga? I doubt it. It's made by 90% at least by girls. And by girls, I mean teenagers who have the same age of Hanako. So, if they find Hanako attractive, there's nothing wrong about it. He has been created to be liked by them. If some old man/woman find him attractive in a sexual way...that person has some problem.


oh you dont want hanako and araragi to be friends? then maybe you want them to be lovers? i guess thats alright too, i mean araragi seems to be into ghosts since hachikuji, the elementary school child you were talking about, is a ghost too!!

"You are reading this series for the wrong reasons" do i? whats my "reason"? lol

"The characters are not children" hanako died at 13... 13 is pretty much a child, maybe a young teen but nowhere near an adult? and did i ever say that theres explicit sexual content? no i didnt lmao there doesnt have to be explicit sexual content for a shotacon to like it, otherwise your fanbase wouldnt be full of shotacons but there are tons of shotacons in your fandom especially on twitter and its not surprising at all

i didnt force anything on you, youre forcing your weird xxl eyes fetish on me lmao "its made by 90% at least by girls" oh yes bc girls cant be perverts lol youre acting as if girls are all super pure creatures who would never have pervy thoughts lol pretty sexist


Hanako is 13/14 years old, he is a teen, and if some reader older than that likes him in a sexual way, he/she has some problems, IMHO. Are you one of these people? I don't want even to know it. Goodbye.
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oh you dont want hanako and araragi to be friends? then maybe you want them to be lovers? i guess thats alright too, i mean araragi seems to be into ghosts since hachikuji, the elementary school child you were talking about, is a ghost too!!

"You are reading this series for the wrong reasons" do i? whats my "reason"? lol

"The characters are not children" hanako died at 13... 13 is pretty much a child, maybe a young teen but nowhere near an adult? and did i ever say that theres explicit sexual content? no i didnt lmao there doesnt have to be explicit sexual content for a shotacon to like it, otherwise your fanbase wouldnt be full of shotacons but there are tons of shotacons in your fandom especially on twitter and its not surprising at all

i didnt force anything on you, youre forcing your weird xxl eyes fetish on me lmao "its made by 90% at least by girls" oh yes bc girls cant be perverts lol youre acting as if girls are all super pure creatures who would never have pervy thoughts lol pretty sexist


Hanako is 13/14 years old, he is a teen, and if some reader older than that likes him in a sexual way, he/she has some problems, IMHO. Are you one of these people? I don't want even to know it. Goodbye.


no im one of these people who dont like your sexist way of thinking that all girl are pure angels and all men are evil and pervert lmao maybe youre the one whos sexually attracted to hanako bc why else would you be so defensive, being super afraid that someone might call you a shotacon lol your weird fetish of characters with big eyes is also creepy
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Hanako is 13/14 years old, he is a teen, and if some reader older than that likes him in a sexual way, he/she has some problems, IMHO. Are you one of these people? I don't want even to know it. Goodbye.


no im one of these people who dont like your sexist way of thinking that all girl are pure angels and all men are evil and pervert lmao maybe youre the one whos sexually attracted to hanako bc why else would you be so defensive, being super afraid that someone might call you a shotacon lol your weird fetish of characters with big eyes is also creepy


You are simply trolling, I don't know why I am replying to you anymore. I am not defending myself, I defended this manga that doesn't deserve to be labeled as some kind of trash for shotacons, just because some of them could like the art style. I have not any particular "big eyes fetish", I just explained you that this characteristic doesn't mean that the characters are thought to be liked by shotacons/lolicons. Your average anime/manga character has huge eyes since the age of Osamu Tezuka, they are necessary to describe the feelings of the characters better, and they are used especially for this reason in sentimental anime/manga, rather than in action anime/manga. I don't mean to waste my time with someone obsessed by sex in cartoons like you anymore. Seriously.
Here, some present for you


I guess you could find them sexually attractive for some reason.
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I thought it was among one of the more popular this season, at least among the people I know. Guess not. I have been planning to read and watch this series soon, just because I think the art and character design looks really nice and it seems like a funny premise.
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I thought it was among one of the more popular this season, at least among the people I know. Guess not. I have been planning to read and watch this series soon, just because I think the art and character design looks really nice and it seems like a funny premise.


It's rather popular, not here though.
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no im one of these people who dont like your sexist way of thinking that all girl are pure angels and all men are evil and pervert lmao maybe youre the one whos sexually attracted to hanako bc why else would you be so defensive, being super afraid that someone might call you a shotacon lol your weird fetish of characters with big eyes is also creepy


You are simply trolling, I don't know why I am replying to you anymore. I am not defending myself, I defended this manga that doesn't deserve to be labeled as some kind of trash for shotacons, just because some of them could like the art style. I have not any particular "big eyes fetish", I just explained you that this characteristic doesn't mean that the characters are thought to be liked by shotacons/lolicons. Your average anime/manga character has huge eyes since the age of Osamu Tezuka, they are necessary to describe the feelings of the characters better, and they are used especially for this reason in sentimental anime/manga, rather than in action anime/manga. I don't mean to waste my time with someone obsessed by sex in cartoons like you anymore. Seriously.
Here, some present for you


I guess you could find them sexually attractive for some reason.


"I don't mean to waste my time with someone obsessed by sex in cartoons" you were talking way more about sex than i did lol arent you the one obsessed with sex

and lmao thanks for the pictures but my lover is

and i wouldnt cheat on him!

but since you seem to be attracted to that rabbit and the dwarf, you can have them!
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You are simply trolling, I don't know why I am replying to you anymore. I am not defending myself, I defended this manga that doesn't deserve to be labeled as some kind of trash for shotacons, just because some of them could like the art style. I have not any particular "big eyes fetish", I just explained you that this characteristic doesn't mean that the characters are thought to be liked by shotacons/lolicons. Your average anime/manga character has huge eyes since the age of Osamu Tezuka, they are necessary to describe the feelings of the characters better, and they are used especially for this reason in sentimental anime/manga, rather than in action anime/manga. I don't mean to waste my time with someone obsessed by sex in cartoons like you anymore. Seriously.
Here, some present for you


I guess you could find them sexually attractive for some reason.


"I don't mean to waste my time with someone obsessed by sex in cartoons" you were talking way more about sex than i did lol arent you the one obsessed with sex

and lmao thanks for the pictures but my lover is

and i wouldnt cheat on him!

but since you seem to be attracted to that rabbit and the dwarf, you can have them!


If you aren't obsessed with sex in cartoons, well stop to see sexual things where they aren't present. =__=
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"I don't mean to waste my time with someone obsessed by sex in cartoons" you were talking way more about sex than i did lol arent you the one obsessed with sex

and lmao thanks for the pictures but my lover is

and i wouldnt cheat on him!

but since you seem to be attracted to that rabbit and the dwarf, you can have them!


If you aren't obsessed with sex in cartoons, well stop to see sexual things where they aren't present. =__=


i just said that hanako-kun is shotacon bait, thats why there are tons of shotacons in the fandom. i didnt say that the manga itself has EXPLICIT sexual content, to be more precise : i said that a manga doesnt need to have explicit sexual content to be bait. you were the only one who constantly talked about sex and xxl eyes so whos obsessed here lmao
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If you aren't obsessed with sex in cartoons, well stop to see sexual things where they aren't present. =__=


i just said that hanako-kun is shotacon bait, thats why there are tons of shotacons in the fandom. i didnt say that the manga itself has EXPLICIT sexual content, to be more precise : i said that a manga doesnt need to have explicit sexual content to be bait. you were the only one who constantly talked about sex and xxl eyes so whos obsessed here lmao


If your eyes see Hanako-kun as a shotacon bait, it's just YOUR OWN problem, and of people like you.
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i just said that hanako-kun is shotacon bait, thats why there are tons of shotacons in the fandom. i didnt say that the manga itself has EXPLICIT sexual content, to be more precise : i said that a manga doesnt need to have explicit sexual content to be bait. you were the only one who constantly talked about sex and xxl eyes so whos obsessed here lmao


If your eyes see Hanako-kun as a shotacon bait, it's just YOUR OWN problem, and of people like you.


lmfao why is it MY problem? why should i care about hanako-kun being shotacon bait? if you like a series like hanako-kun you should expect shotacons to like it as well. i dont care if shotacons like the same stuff as i do lmao YOU are the one who seem to have a problem with it, not me.
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If your eyes see Hanako-kun as a shotacon bait, it's just YOUR OWN problem, and of people like you.


lmfao why is it MY problem? why should i care about hanako-kun being shotacon bait? if you like a series like hanako-kun you should expect shotacons to like it as well. i dont care if shotacons like the same stuff as i do lmao YOU are the one who seem to have a problem with it, not me.


What you don't understand is that shotacons are not the target of this series. ^___^"
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lmfao why is it MY problem? why should i care about hanako-kun being shotacon bait? if you like a series like hanako-kun you should expect shotacons to like it as well. i dont care if shotacons like the same stuff as i do lmao YOU are the one who seem to have a problem with it, not me.


What you don't understand is that shotacons are not the target of this series. ^___^"


what you dont understand is that it doesnt matter if the target audience are not shotacons, its still shotacon bait ^_^

if i draw a manga with animal characters and my target audience are young girls, its still furry bait bc of the animal characters even if my target audience arent furries
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Lerche just ruins this adaptation for me. Anime without animation ?? Well that doesnt work like that i think. Still they minimalize char movement, there are still off-model character. Pace?? nah

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What you don't understand is that shotacons are not the target of this series. ^___^"


what you dont understand is that it doesnt matter if the target audience are not shotacons, its still shotacon bait ^_^

if i draw a manga with animal characters and my target audience are young girls, its still furry bait bc of the animal characters even if my target audience arent furries


Wtf is this comparing about??
You want to tell that Haikyuu is same show with Yuri on Ice? or Blend S is same show with Somali or Barakamon??

There are bunch of dudes, so that show was just for fujoshi..
Because the main lead is young girl, so both was just for lolicon
??

Haikyuu has many BL fanfic. Yes. But that didnt mean it was fujobait. Same with this..

You have problem with the art style?? If you say this has fujobait (like kou and mitsuba thing) maybe i will be agree, but this is not shotacon bait.
What is wrong to have different art style? Her art style is unique than other artist. You can spot her art immediately when you see that. There are so many effort to make stylish art that you only person have that style. Panel art is so detail in manga and deep color. And it need long time to get that style. Even the studio and staff was making all effort just to match her style but so lacking in animation

If you say this is shotacon because of the art style. You just insult illustratorthat has stylish art. And AidaIro is one of best illustator in manga industry..

Just go back to your lolicon show that has copy paste character design
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Lerche just ruins this adaptation for me. Anime without animation ?? Well that doesnt work like that i think. Still they minimalize char movement, there are still off-model character. Pace?? nah

nabuka said:


what you dont understand is that it doesnt matter if the target audience are not shotacons, its still shotacon bait ^_^

if i draw a manga with animal characters and my target audience are young girls, its still furry bait bc of the animal characters even if my target audience arent furries


Wtf is this comparing about??
You want to tell that Haikyuu is same show with Yuri on Ice? or Blend S is same show with Somali or Barakamon??

There are bunch of dudes, so that show was just for fujoshi..
Because the main lead is young girl, so both was just for lolicon
??

Haikyuu has many BL fanfic. Yes. But that didnt mean it was fujobait. Same with this..

You have problem with the art style?? If you say this has fujobait (like kou and mitsuba thing) maybe i will be agree, but this is not shotacon bait.
What is wrong to have different art style? Her art style is unique than other artist. You can spot her art immediately when you see that. There are so many effort to make stylish art that you only person have that style. Panel art is so detail in manga and deep color. And it need long time to get that style. Even the studio and staff was making all effort just to match her style but so lacking in animation

If you say this is shotacon because of the art style. You just insult illustratorthat has stylish art. And AidaIro is one of best illustator in manga industry..

Just go back to your lolicon show that has copy paste character design


i have no fuckin idea what youre talking about but yes haikyuu and yuri on ice are both sports anime so they are bascially the same genre lmao

yuri on ice is fujobait imo but i wouldnt call haikyuu fujobait? the only thing they have in common is the sports genre so idk what youre talking about

i dont think barakamon was popular with lolicons? never heard of something like that, what are you talking about lmao

i didnt say the art style is bad?? ive said shotacons are into hanako-kuns art style and thats why the hanako-kun fandom is full of shotacons??? how is that an insult?? shouldnt you be happy that more people are buying aida iros manga?? youre honestly an *sshole if you want them to make less money just bc YOU dont want shotacons as fellow fans

copy paste character design? lolicon show? i dont even know what a lolicon show is lol if youre talking about shows with lolis.. well yashiro is a loli? wtf is wrong with you, hanako-kuns mc is literally a loli and youre watching it lmao just bc there are lolis in a show doesnt mean its automatically bad, otherwise hanako-kun would be bad

youre honestly super weird with your "EVERYTHING IS FUJOOOOOOO" lol
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Wtf is this comparing about??
You want to tell that Haikyuu is same show with Yuri on Ice? or Blend S is same show with Somali or Barakamon??

There are bunch of dudes, so that show was just for fujoshi..
Because the main lead is young girl, so both was just for lolicon
??

Haikyuu has many BL fanfic. Yes. But that didnt mean it was fujobait. Same with this..

You have problem with the art style?? If you say this has fujobait (like kou and mitsuba thing) maybe i will be agree, but this is not shotacon bait.
What is wrong to have different art style? Her art style is unique than other artist. You can spot her art immediately when you see that. There are so many effort to make stylish art that you only person have that style. Panel art is so detail in manga and deep color. And it need long time to get that style. Even the studio and staff was making all effort just to match her style but so lacking in animation

If you say this is shotacon because of the art style. You just insult illustratorthat has stylish art. And AidaIro is one of best illustator in manga industry..

Just go back to your lolicon show that has copy paste character design


I agree absolutely with you, he doesn't make any sense.
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I dropped it after one episode :/ Felt like a poor man's Noragami for shotacon/lolicon fans. Seriously, how am I supposed to believe Nene is a high schooler when she looks 5?


I think that's a universal problem with anime designs..
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