| I'd like to think most of us already know this, but MAL being MAL it's ocassionally hard to differentiate between the vocal minority and the majority. So, in case anybody doesn't know, Captain Obvious has come to the rescue. Reviews are generally limited in worth because of the conflict of interest in showing what audience an anime is for while also giving the reviewer's own opinion on the show, and often the former aspect is cut out entirely, at which point it's really just an opinion post and not a review at all. Opinion posts are almost always going to be divisive in some way and should always be in the context of discussion, yet youtube videos serve to put certain opinions on a pedestal and generally lead to toxicity. The good anime youtubers, then, are the ones who talk about aspects of the medium or specific anime while limiting their own taste's effect on the content on the videos. There are only a few anime youtubers who manage to do this consistently (i.e. without falling into the review nonsense for the most part), but they are out there and yet they're never talked about. Youtubers who put out videos that are actually interesting such as RCAnime, Pause and Select, Ninouh, (occasionally) The Capina Effect, or Mother's Basement (when he's actually doing opening analyses rather than ranting) should be what we talk about rather than all the crud put out by TAS, Digibro, and the rest of their sorts. |
| I think we all know how the pattern in TY reviews flow right m8? Don't get me wrong, salt flows there... Ehhh.. Either way I don't care about YT as a whole. Too much shit that needs to be filtered there. |
| Meh, reviews are reviews. I think they should make them if people want and that people can watch them if they want, but I really despise how many people play follow the leader and act like they're on a grand quest for intellectualism, when in reality it's all either just furthering some desired narrative or self-image projection rather than anything geniune. People seem so deadset on being objective and only speaking in facts and absolutes and that everything has to be done in the way that they decide. Qualities aren't perceived by an individual viewer based on their likes and dislikes, but rather some set of standards they came up with using logic™ to determine a factual set of qualities for everybody to use. That always seems to be the underlying theme with this type, be it on reviews or discussion boards like this; inability to accept the idea that people don't look for the same things they look for. When they can't argue something back, it's all just subjective and an opinion. When they're dominating an argument, it's logic and reason. It's all bullshit. |
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_Ako_ said: I think we all know how the pattern in TY reviews flow right m8? Don't get me wrong, salt flows there... Ehhh.. Either way I don't care about YT as a whole. Too much shit that needs to be filtered there. I don't underestimate the fandom's capacity for saltiness. A certain MAL review that came out within the past few months revealed it firsthand. Still though, youtube is a completely different website and there's no need for the saltiness to spill over here. There are so many people on MAL who dislike or do not care about these reviewers, and yet they're all anybody talks about as far as anime youtubers go. |
| the only anime youtuber i watch is a guy who talks about ecchi and fanservice sure, i do watch the anime man, but only a select few videos depending on what hes talking about and hes not a reviewer anyway as far as people who analyze, no i don't watch any of them, but then again, like i said, i only watch 2 people |
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Manaban said: Meh, reviews are reviews. I think they should make them if people want and that people can watch them if they want, but I really despise how many people play follow the leader and act like they're on a grand quest for intellectualism, when in reality it's all either just furthering some desired narrative or self-image projection rather than anything geniune. People seem so deadset on being objective and only speaking in facts and absolutes and that everything has to be done in the way that they decide. Qualities aren't perceived by an individual viewer based on their likes and dislikes, but rather some set of standards they came up with using logic™ to determine a factual set of qualities for everybody to use. That always seems to be the underlying theme with this type, be it on reviews or discussion boards like this; inability to accept the idea that people don't look for the same things they look for. When they can't argue something back, it's all just subjective and an opinion. When they're dominating an argument, it's logic and reason. It's all bullshit. Although I'm of the sort that differentiates their emotive response and values response to a degree, in the end it is indeed your values and taste that is coming into play. Any set of qualities is not factual in nature; multiple people can agree on them for ease of discussion, but there's no need. Originality, for example, wasn't always commonly considered a good thing in story. Accepting that people look for different things in shows is a good first step, but I'd still maintain there's generally little worth in elevating certain opinion posts over others. EcchiLordMamster said: the only anime youtuber i watch is a guy who talks about ecchi and fanservice sure, i do watch the anime man, but only a select few videos depending on what hes talking about and hes not a reviewer anyway as far as people who analyze, no i don't watch any of them, but then again, like i said, i only watch 2 people I think Ninouh has a fanservice video you might like. I don't remember if I liked it myself or not, though. |
| That's why I tend to look at multiple views before developing my opinion, just in case I might have missed key points or simply trying to get a better perspective of what the broad audience thinks. Granted, I am no reviewer and not somebody who tries to justify superiority in anime through logic (I think all anime tastes and reception of anime is subjective). I only follow Mother's Basement for his analysis on OP's, because analyzing a scene only takes logic (interpretations also are needed, and those can be subjective as well). Granted, everybody has various interpretations of OP scenes, but at the end of the day all differentiating analysis will always lead to a general answer. Besides, he is probably the only youtuber that I know of who analyzes OP's. Majority of other youtubers content is either rants or anime news, the latter being not so bad. I follow ForneverWorld, and AnimeBallsDeep for anime news and other stuff. |
| Thanks Captain Obvious, the hero we need but don't deserve. I'll be sure to check those Anime Youtubers out. It's hard to find Anime Youtubers that actually interest me. |
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| Nah, all Anime Youtubers are trash. Deal with it. |
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| Only person I can actually watch is Gigguk. People like Noble and LostPause I just refuse. |
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| I think the problem is that the ones you mentioned are more information oriented youtubers and theres no way to really discuss their content(I wont be discussing what some shots in the OP mean lol) since its all facts. Opinions(reviews/analysis) create discussion. |
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TripleSRank said: _Ako_ said: I think we all know how the pattern in TY reviews flow right m8? Don't get me wrong, salt flows there... Ehhh.. Either way I don't care about YT as a whole. Too much shit that needs to be filtered there. I don't underestimate the fandom's capacity for saltiness. A certain MAL review that came out within the past few months revealed it firsthand. Still though, youtube is a completely different website and there's no need for the saltiness to spill over here. There are so many people on MAL who dislike or do not care about these reviewers, and yet they're all anybody talks about as far as anime youtubers go. I think the reason why most people wouldn't care about YT reviewers are the fact that it flows with overwhelming spoilers. Even I was surprised when I first saw it. Well either way, people get used to something and becomes their norm as they go on. As far as reviewers/reviews, both "in person" or written, based upon what I feel, is just shit. I have my own ways of expressing my views on certain series that I hate and like, though both are just nonsensical since I just do random stuff, so I guess I'm contradicting myself to this point now. There are so many people on MAL who dislike or do not care about these reviewers, and yet they're all anybody talks about as far as anime youtubers go I don't quite understand what you mean... I think there is not a lot of people in who hate YTer or anything like that, far more from what I see to be honest, different users formulate how they feel towards different YTer, so I wouldn't really know. As an individual, I just hate it, means I don't care about it. Yes, me saying "I don't care about it" will be the right expression, the best way I can put it. I think the reason why they seem to talk to the YTer are because of their opinions on a certain series, the fact that they seem to over exaggerate themselves( I dunno, probably), I mean there's still, at least someone/somebody talking to SAO upto this day. HamburgerSpike said: I think the problem is that the ones you mentioned are more information oriented youtubers and theres no way to really discuss their content since its all facts. Opinions(reviews/analysis) create discussion. Ehhh... Can you at least give me a rough draft of when you mean "information oriented YTer", is that like the background of the studios/creator/music background/OP + ED or something along those lines? |
TripleSRank said: I think Ninouh has a fanservice video you might like. I don't remember if I liked it myself or not, though. heres the problem with most fanservice videos, they all say the same "its only good when its done this way" bullshit... theres a certain point where i believe at least some people are only saying that because they know thats what people are going to parrot im sorry but, "i only like fanservice when its done this way" is not a person liking fanservice, its liking context... its like saying "i only like sexy women when im at the beach" its bullshit and im tired of hearing it and the guy im talking about is pretty much the same as me: "fanservice can do no wrong, my dick, etc", hes honestly partially to blame for the way i act on here problem is his channel was constantly getting taken down, so he kind of stopped i wish there were more shameless horny fucks who didn't just bow down to the butthurts, and instead were entirely honest... so unless he talks about fanservice entirely positively, i probably won't like it |
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Darek said: Elegade said: Nah, all Anime Youtubers are trash. Deal with it. Says the guys with that twat forgot his name's character in the signature. What was his name? eh whatever, he is shit. Even Keemcunt is better than any weeb youtuber. |
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Darek said: That only proves you are shit at finding good ones or that you have shit taste and probably watch stuff like GradeAUnderA finally got that cunts name, really, anime youtubers can be good you are all just shit at finding them. Nah, I'm not that deprived yet to go out and look for weeb youtubers lol. |
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| Lol I look forward to Gigguk's response video, so he'll school this self absorbed loser. |
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Darek said: You are full of shit on this one, if I like SoL and I dislike some SoL and that doesn't mean I don't like SoL this is just retarded and has no ground to stand on. no... this is not the same thing saying that "i only like fanservice when its in context" is like saying "i will only get turned on by a woman in a bikini if im at the beach" tits don't stop being hot because im at work, just like they don't stop being hot just because the moment in an anime is tense... this is the issue im addressing yes, not all sexual fanservice gives me a boner, but that is not the issue, the issue is complaining about where the fanservice is placed, and again im saying, it doesn't stop being hot because of the placement see what im saying? how is saying i only like boobs in anime when the context makes sense any different from saying i only like when they pan the camera on a random object if the context of the object makes sense? that is NOT liking boobs in anime, thats is liking things that you think make sense in anime |
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Darek said: Well its going to be true sooooooooooo-Mahesvara said: Lol I look forward to Gigguk's response video, so he'll school this self absorbed loser. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good one mate, good one.... |
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Darek said: -Mahesvara said: Well its going to be true sooooooooooo The only thing gigguk can do is tell shitty jokes. The jokes are pretty good tho, he might do a funny video response :) |
| Oshii is probably the only director that loves dogs. He thinks he's a dog himself. That's right, its slime! It will dissolve your clothing slowly before my eyes! |
Darek said: Better than anything this nobody has made, sub count don't lie.-Mahesvara said: Well its going to be true sooooooooooo The only thing gigguk can do is tell hilarious jokes. |
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| He said he was going to bite on this bait on his twitter account, so we can expect a hilarious brilliant video in the next few days. |
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it really just depends on how hot the shot is, and the condition of the body i mean, i wouldn't fap because psychologically its too big a turn off to fap to someone dead, but that doesn't mean a character that died can't still look sexy while deceased |
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EcchiLordMamster said: it really just depends on how hot the shot is, and the condition of the body i mean, i wouldn't fap because psychologically its too big a turn off to fap to someone dead, but that doesn't mean a character that died can't still look sexy while deceased  Oh well... I mean... eh... I fap to lolis so I guess I will give you a pass for that. |
| But TAS vids, particularly the older ones, are actually interesting, and not many of them are reviews. Or maybe it's because i read their text on his blog, and not the youtube version. More of them should do text versions ,, |
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i don't fap to dead characters, im just acknowledging that fanservice of a dead girl can still be hot ok? you think i never do? is that supposed to be something unique about you? |
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| There are definitely plenty of anime Youtubers who aren't reviewers. https://www.youtube.com/user/ohohojousama I wouldn't call myself one of the best anime Youtubers but I am developing somewhat of a following and it definitely isn't from my cringy slapped together reviews (here is a text version of one to give you an idea of how awful they are). Most of the anime Youtubers I personally watch do review-type videos (analysis, reviews, "should you watch?", ect.), but I know there are a lot of other things people do with and about anime on youtube. |
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| >not having an undead waifu >i seriusly hope you guys dont do this rita a qt |
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| Youtube and its community just aren't good enough to have anime on it. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
im just saying that fapping to lolis isn't at all something strange, fapping to dead characters is wtf |
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Darek said: we all know Mamster probably fapped to Sankarea EcchiLordMamster said: it really just depends on how hot the shot is, and the condition of the body i mean, i wouldn't fap because psychologically its too big a turn off to fap to someone dead, but that doesn't mean a character that died can't still look sexy while deceased Oh well... I mean... eh... I fap to lolis so I guess I will give you a pass for that.  |
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Pyro said: Its strengthens the point that Digi is a nobody tho and he shouldn't be picking beefs with more successful channels, especially with just throwing nothing but insults filled with hypocrisy.-Mahesvara said: Better than anything this nobody has made, sub count don't lie. Gigguk ain't gonna school Digi. C'mon now. And bringing up sub count is weak af. |
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| "Good anime youtubers" I'm sorry, you lost me from the start. |
| I think YouTubers would receive less flack if they just replace "Review" with "Discussion" in their video titles. There is a dissonance between the thread's title "The Best Anime Youtubers Aren't Reviewers" and the OP's actual post. The word best, or an equivalent word, isn't even used elsewhere. I was a bit peeved since this reminded me of those clickbait YouTube titles you often see. This is my vague notion of what "Best Anime YouTubers" would be: the YouTuber who is best able to convey their anime-related idea to the viewer. Able indicates ability. Does the YouTuber have the best delivery? Delivery would include sound/video quality, graphical choices (webcam, or images and clips related to the subject), editing, pacing (taking an hour to make a point when five minutes is sufficient), method (speaking out loud in a clear voice or just typing out the idea), wording (using needlessly big words when simple alternatives are available), etc. Does the YouTuber have the best process (logical, rational, consistent, no irrelevant information, etc) to convey their idea? Does the YouTuber provide the best evidence or information for their idea?The list of abilities could go on and on. Another dissonance is that the OP considers reviews as "generally limited in worth." However, at the end, he recommends four (RCAnime, Pause and Select, The Canipa Effect, and Mother's Basement) of five channels that have video reviews. I think a better argument for these channels is their ability to do different, quality videos. Instead of being limited, these channels have a variety of anime-related videos, including: analysis, reviews, interviews, discussions and lists. |
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zombie_pegasus said: Do you do the subs yourself in the shows you upload?There are definitely plenty of anime Youtubers who aren't reviewers. https://www.youtube.com/user/ohohojousama I wouldn't call myself one of the best anime Youtubers but I am developing somewhat of a following and it definitely isn't from my cringy slapped together reviews (here is a text version of one to give you an idea of how awful they are). Most of the anime Youtubers I personally watch do review-type videos (analysis, reviews, "should you watch?", ect.), but I know there are a lot of other things people do with and about anime on youtube. I watched a few of your videos and noticed you look nervous. I think if you break that you could get a bigger following! |
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Kagami said: Honestly, at this point if I wasn't doing the subs I wouldn't even be making any content. Yes, I write and time all of the subs myself. I don't plan on making more IRL videos. The "nervous" thing is sort of who I am, kind of like how you talk about half the speed of what normal people speak (at least judging by your videos). It's an ongoing thing that I can't exactly break overnight.zombie_pegasus said: Do you do the subs yourself in the shows you upload?There are definitely plenty of anime Youtubers who aren't reviewers. https://www.youtube.com/user/ohohojousama I wouldn't call myself one of the best anime Youtubers but I am developing somewhat of a following and it definitely isn't from my cringy slapped together reviews (here is a text version of one to give you an idea of how awful they are). Most of the anime Youtubers I personally watch do review-type videos (analysis, reviews, "should you watch?", ect.), but I know there are a lot of other things people do with and about anime on youtube. I watched a few of your videos and noticed you look nervous. I think if you break that you could get a bigger following! |
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