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Jan 22, 2016 1:09 PM
#151
^I have yet to see a decent mecha with transforming mechs (I'm looking at you, Eureka 7), but I really need to watch Macross: Do You Remember Love? |
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Jan 22, 2016 1:10 PM
#152
Some don't like the settings and fictional politics can be hard to get into. The few mecha things I've seen haven't had as good of characters as I would've liked too. Not everyone likes science fiction either. |
Jan 22, 2016 1:14 PM
#153
Probably already said by someone else but the reason is simple: they don't even _know_ what mecha is. They don't know that real robot and super robot are two very different things. They don't want to watch mecha anime because most of them are SOOOOO old and SOOOOO ugly. They don't know that everything isn't always centered on big robots fighting and nothing else... that's where the "I hate mecha but like Code Geass" comes from: the show is rather recent, accessible, and became a big hit, so they should have less difficulties to get into it. Then they clearly see that mechas are merely a tool, that the world stage, the characters and so on are the true core of the series (well, that's cute but CG season 2 was pretty much about who has the bigger robot. Also shitty deus ex machinas). Then they have two paths in front of them: -They consider that _maybe_ it was stupid to frown upon the whole mecha genre because of misconceptions, they give it a shot and shortly realize that CG was a bad AU Gundam ripping off 0079 while adding magical eyes, pretentious metaphysical crap, edgy protags, unexplained technology (why mechas ? Where are the Minovsky Physics ?), bullshit strategies concluded by even more deus ex machinas, useless school life setting for that dear SELF-INSERTION and so on. -They consider that this one was good because it's SOOOOO different than the others and therefore mecha is still shit. Let me correct myself: it's not even that they don't know what mecha is, its worse. They don't WANT to know, and are being cuntnuggets about it. You can't say that you don't like mecha without having actually watched any. That's all. |
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Jan 22, 2016 1:15 PM
#154
I used to hate mecha too, then I watched Gurren Lagann. After that NGE, and now almost all I watch is 80s/70s mecha shows. Mecha is the same as moe is now, you either love it or you hate it. MAL tends to like moe shows more. Newer mecha shows imo look bad with their CGI mechs and I can't stand it, or try to copy past mecha shows (Aldnoah.Zero to Layzner). |
Jan 22, 2016 1:20 PM
#155
Clebardman said: ^I have yet to see a decent mecha with transforming mechs (I'm looking at you, Eureka 7), but I really need to watch Macross: Do You Remember Love? Yea those are pretty hard to come by. There's isn't really that many series where the mechs are mainly transformable type. Macross:DYRL is really great imo. The only real prob I had with was the fact that the romance(s) felt really condensed. Still that's pretty much to be expected from a movie that's basically an alternative version of a full series. |
Jan 22, 2016 1:23 PM
#156
I don't mind mecha as long as the anime doesn't revolve around them. But a great story and great characters can make up for that, though. |
Jan 22, 2016 1:28 PM
#157
I don't care about robots unless they're cute androids. |
Jan 22, 2016 1:33 PM
#158
mintkat said: I don't care about robots unless they're cute androids. (basically, a french-german live action Eve no Jikan) |
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Jan 22, 2016 1:44 PM
#159
mintkat said: I don't care about robots unless they're cute androids. and yes that's a full size super robot that for some reasons looks like a cute girl. The upraged version is more hot than cute though |
Jan 22, 2016 2:17 PM
#160
_Peksi said: mintkat said: I don't care about robots unless they're cute androids. and yes that's a full size super robot that for some reasons looks like a cute girl. The upraged version is more hot than cute though Maybe there is harmony between moe and mecha. |
Jan 22, 2016 2:19 PM
#161
Because the era of MEN OF VALOR is sadly over. |
Jan 22, 2016 2:31 PM
#162
Though I don't outright hate mecha, I'm just not interested in seeing robots fight each other. |
Jan 22, 2016 2:31 PM
#163
Well this already exist ZettaiRyouiki said: Because the era of MEN OF VALOR is sadly over. NEVER!!! Gundam Origin, Thunderbolt and Iron-Blood Orphans will save mecha! |
Jan 22, 2016 3:20 PM
#164
BadOpinion said: Fun game: For every time someone makes a giant uneducated generalization in this thread slap yourself in the face as hard as you can. I lost 21 teeth and 3 fingers. Fun game indeed. |
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Jan 22, 2016 3:26 PM
#165
Those people are probably robophobic. |
Jan 22, 2016 3:26 PM
#166
I have no clue why I dislike Mecha. Maybe it's just not appealing to me since it mainly focuses on robots fighting. But then again, I haven't seen any so I can't judge. |
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Jan 22, 2016 3:27 PM
#167
Guess its just out of season, I mean most of the popular ones are kind of old, and I dunno if code geass straight up counts. Loooved gurren lagann tho, one of the best anime ever imo |
Jan 22, 2016 3:30 PM
#168
mintkat said: I don't care about robots unless they're cute androids. |
Jan 22, 2016 3:31 PM
#169
HatsunesFriend said: I have no clue why I dislike Mecha. Maybe it's just not appealing to me since it mainly focuses on robots fighting. But then again, I haven't seen any so I can't judge. -says he/she dislikes mecha -says it focuses on robots fighting -says he/she has never seen a mecha Could you please open the window? I need to base jump without parachute right now. |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Jan 22, 2016 3:52 PM
#170
Jan 22, 2016 3:54 PM
#171
seouless said: i've just never given it a try. i plan to try out aldnoah.zero in the future though? i heard it was decent. I've heard quite the opposite but didn't check myself. I'd suggest not giving up on mecha if you don't like that one. |
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Jan 22, 2016 4:18 PM
#172
Clebardman said: BTW, Patlabor is probably one of the only real robot premise that makes sense to me. Obviosuly the first use of exoskeletons/mechas would be construction, and it makes sense to have a mecha unit to deal with these kind of troubles. Which other ones have you seen? Patlabor has robots with hands. With fingers. To hold a revolver. And a stun stick. If you're only talking about the utility, does police-use make more sense than military-use, which is generally how real robot shows are set up? You might be more interested in real robot shows with power armor/mid-size/autonomous mecha. |
QuattroVaginasJan 22, 2016 4:40 PM
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Jan 22, 2016 5:16 PM
#173
QuattroVaginas said: Clebardman said: BTW, Patlabor is probably one of the only real robot premise that makes sense to me. Obviosuly the first use of exoskeletons/mechas would be construction, and it makes sense to have a mecha unit to deal with these kind of troubles. Which other ones have you seen? Patlabor has robots with hands. With fingers. To hold a revolver. And a stun stick. If you're only talking about the utility, does police-use make more sense than military-use, which is generally how real robot shows are set up? You might be more interested in real robot shows with power armor/mid-size/autonomous mecha. Well, it makes sense for a real robot show. But honestly, mechs aren't going to happen. Exoskeletons? Yeah. Mechs? no. Stun baton and revolver aside, yeah, Patlabor makes more sense than any military mecha show for a simple reason: a tank >>>>>>> a mecha. On the other hand,it's quite logical to have a mecha unit dedicated to labor crimes (this supposes that labors are actually somewhat useful, I doubt they'd be compared to exoskeletons and traditional construction vehicles), since you're not exactly going to bring a tank and shoot your 120mm cannon in the middle of a town to maintain peace. (we could argue that there are more efficient way to deal with this, like remote killer switches, EMP, blablabla, but have you seen the computers and talkie-walkies in that show :p?) I really need to watch a real robot military show at some point, but unlike super robots, it's not exactly exclusive to japanese animation. I've always been a huge fan of mechs in any medium (C&C Tiberium Sun?), even if the concept is totally silly and unpractical. |
DeathkoJan 22, 2016 5:20 PM
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Jan 22, 2016 5:29 PM
#174
Holy shit the bias in this entire thread is insane |
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Jan 22, 2016 5:31 PM
#175
Clebardman said: QuattroVaginas said: Clebardman said: BTW, Patlabor is probably one of the only real robot premise that makes sense to me. Obviosuly the first use of exoskeletons/mechas would be construction, and it makes sense to have a mecha unit to deal with these kind of troubles. Which other ones have you seen? Patlabor has robots with hands. With fingers. To hold a revolver. And a stun stick. If you're only talking about the utility, does police-use make more sense than military-use, which is generally how real robot shows are set up? You might be more interested in real robot shows with power armor/mid-size/autonomous mecha. Well, it makes sense for a real robot show. But honestly, mechs aren't going to happen. Exoskeletons? Yeah. Mechs? no. Stun baton and revolver aside, yeah, Patlabor makes more sense than any military mecha show for a simple reason: a tank >>>>>>> a mecha. On the other hand,it's quite logical to have a mecha unit dedicated to labor crimes (this supposes that labors are actually somewhat useful, I doubt they'd be compared to exoskeletons and traditional construction vehicles), since you're not exactly going to bring a tank and shoot your 120mm cannon in the middle of a town to maintain peace. (we could argue that there are more efficient way to deal with this, like remote killer switches, EMP, blablabla, but have you seen the computers and talkie-walkies in that show :p?) Even in Patlabor, they have mecha in the military. I'm just saying it isn't really any more or less realistic than some other mecha shows, and you should definitely check out more real robot stuff. And judging by your reactions to some of the reasons here, you must be new to this topic. This shit comes up once every few weeks, and the replies are always the same. |
QuattroVaginasJan 22, 2016 5:35 PM
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Jan 22, 2016 5:37 PM
#176
QuattroVaginas said: Even in Patlabor, they have mecha in the military. I'm just saying it isn't really any more or less realistic than some other mecha shows, and you should definitely check out more real robot stuff. Well, I'm halfway through the show and military mechs isn't the most funky thing either *cough*dragon*cough* I still think that the concept of civilian and police labors makes (a little bit) more sense than most real robot shows premise. |
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Jan 22, 2016 5:38 PM
#177
IAmAHero said: Holy shit the bias in this entire thread is insane I know right? This is hilarious to see so many people go " I hate mecha but I love CG, TTGL, and Eva" smh |
Jan 22, 2016 5:54 PM
#178
BlueDestiny01 said: IAmAHero said: Holy shit the bias in this entire thread is insane I know right? This is hilarious to see so many people go " I hate mecha but I love CG, TTGL, and Eva" smh I was referring to the people who say "I hate mecha" or act like they know about mecha yet both have never seen a single one. |
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Jan 22, 2016 5:55 PM
#179
Well clearly it's because they lack taste. |
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Jan 22, 2016 6:02 PM
#180
IAmAHero said: BlueDestiny01 said: IAmAHero said: Holy shit the bias in this entire thread is insane I know right? This is hilarious to see so many people go " I hate mecha but I love CG, TTGL, and Eva" smh I was referring to the people who say "I hate mecha" or act like they know about mecha yet both have never seen a single one. Yeah that too. So many people in this thread just have opinions that aren't well thought out imo |
Jan 22, 2016 6:02 PM
#181
Mecha genre can be flexible. It can be a military fiction, it can be a "kid calls into cockpit and fights aliens or evil scientist" type of story, kids transforming a school into a base and use animal mechas, talking robots that become your friends, etc. I guess the genre is just overshadowed? I think we need something that rivals the Eldran and Yuusha series, spanning 4 cour. Also, there's CGI....bleh. |
Jan 22, 2016 6:17 PM
#182
Polychrome said: rebornnora said: okay let a baby in the full armor unicorn fight against char aznable in his zaku lets see who wins Better robot = who is a winner. when it comes to action, two robots, fighting 1v1 each other looks slow compare to a 1v1 man vs man, its faster and go watch some scenes of macross tell me what's so slow about the fights there disliking mecha can be for many reason dumb stereotypes from ignorant anime watchers such as the person above me or they simple dislike how nowadays it's most about action and nothing else its what the reason why don't watch mecha's. you are talking to a dude who is willing to watch any anime that contains oppai's regardless if its a shit anime. and yes, i like action and nothing else. and when i say fighting scene, i meant it has to be faster than you play osu on insane mode. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:22 PM
#183
The problem with mecha anime is that they have mecha. The series actual use gigantic robots as a plotpoint, but do not tend to reinforce the story. I like robots, but I don;t watch to watch an anime and say that it had cool robots, but it did not have enough development. Mecha shows seem to forsake development for a couple good mech fights, which is admirable, but not my personal tastes. Also, It reminds me way too much of power rangers for some reason. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:34 PM
#184
Clearly you all just need to watch Fafner. Especially "mechas are slow" guy. Watch Heaven and Earth or Exodus and tell me what about those was slow. |
This love for Hirasawa Yui consumes me, washing over my dirty weeaboo body with a cleansing warmth that allows me to reach greater heights. It inspires me to be a better man; not the man they deserve, but the man she deserves. Yui, I love you. With everything I have. You are my one, my only. Mai waifu. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:37 PM
#185
I use to hate Mecha until I saw the Gundam series and Code Geass. Good Mecha anime are made once in a blue moon so people usually judge the genre based on recent crappy ones like Valvrave, Daimialder(tf was that shit ) Captain Earth and the recent Aldnoah Zero. Aldnoah Zero had potential but it flopped in season 2. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:37 PM
#186
isthismahjong said: Also, It reminds me way too much of power rangers for some reason. Which wouldn't be surprising if you were thinking of (combing) super robot anime, as they tend to have the same basic formula (heroes in giant [combining] robots battling monsters-of-the-week.) The upside to super robot anime is that the newer shows tend to play around with that formula more and aren't restricted to Super Sentai's team/combine/monster formula. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:41 PM
#187
Holmes15 said: I use to hate Mecha until I saw the Gundam series and Code Geass. Good Mecha anime are made once in a blue moon so people usually judge the genre based on recent crappy ones like Valvrave, Daimialder(tf was that shit ) Captain Earth and the recent Aldnoah Zero. Aldnoah Zero had potential but it flopped in season 2. No, you go away. Captain Earth was fantastic. |
This love for Hirasawa Yui consumes me, washing over my dirty weeaboo body with a cleansing warmth that allows me to reach greater heights. It inspires me to be a better man; not the man they deserve, but the man she deserves. Yui, I love you. With everything I have. You are my one, my only. Mai waifu. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:49 PM
#188
Holmes15 said: Good Mecha anime are made once in a blue moon so people usually judge the genre based on recent crappy ones like Valvrave, Daimialder(tf was that shit ) Captain Earth and the recent Aldnoah Zero. Aldnoah Zero had potential but it flopped in season 2. If you're reaching all the way back to 2013, then I'd count Sidonia, Gargantia, Gundam Build Fighters, and Majestic Prince, amongst the solid positives. So far as I can tell, Gundam IBO has a warm reception too. |
Jan 22, 2016 7:58 PM
#189
XD Ckan said: If you're reaching all the way back to 2013, then I'd count Sidonia, Gargantia, Gundam Build Fighters, and Majestic Prince, amongst the solid positives. So far as I can tell, Gundam IBO has a warm reception too. I love the Gundam IBO currently airing it quite possibly might be the best mecha in recent years depending on how it ends.The build fighters lacked that life and death intense edgy feeling I look for in the Gundam series. The others you mentioned are also positives that I enjoyed. That Gundam Thunderbolt first episode is also looking good albeit it's short. |
Jan 22, 2016 9:00 PM
#190
Holmes15 said: I love the Gundam IBO currently airing it quite possibly might be the best mecha in recent years depending on how it ends. XD That would be Soukyuu no Fafner Exodus: Second Season. |
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Jan 22, 2016 11:17 PM
#191
Squirtroll said: Cause most mechas doesn't have a lot of fanservice, incest, loli, echii etc. so morons hate them. Any good mecha already has all of these. Except incest. Sometimes. |
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Jan 23, 2016 1:55 AM
#192
Squirtroll said: Cause most mechas doesn't have a lot of fanservice, incest, loli, echii etc. so morons hate them. Do you realize Infinite Strators is mecha genre show? |
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Jan 23, 2016 3:15 AM
#193
I like watching a simple face off between 2 characters who rely own skill rather than Robots doing the talking. |
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Jan 23, 2016 4:07 AM
#194
Anticlimatic said: I like watching a simple face off between 2 characters who rely own skill rather than Robots doing the talking. Yea 'cus the skill and experience is always a non-factor in mecha combat |
Jan 23, 2016 4:22 AM
#195
_Peksi said: Hmm your very right there. i guess i missed that detail, maybe am too used to enjoying fist fights and sword fights that leave me on the edge of my seat, well my bad. XDAnticlimatic said: I like watching a simple face off between 2 characters who rely own skill rather than Robots doing the talking. Yea 'cus the skill and experience is always a non-factor in mecha combat |
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Jan 23, 2016 4:27 AM
#196
Anticlimatic said: _Peksi said: Hmm your very right there. i guess i missed that detail, maybe am too used to enjoying fist fights and sword fights that leave me on the edge of my seat, well my bad. XDAnticlimatic said: I like watching a simple face off between 2 characters who rely own skill rather than Robots doing the talking. Yea 'cus the skill and experience is always a non-factor in mecha combat Yea everytime a veteran ace pilots beats a rookie who has a better mech, it's not 'cus of skill/experience. It's just the robots doing the talking. How about mechas that mimic the pilots movement? |
Jan 23, 2016 4:31 AM
#197
_Peksi said: Not exactly sure what sure what your talking about but recommend me some shows that YOU personally enjoyed.Anticlimatic said: _Peksi said: Anticlimatic said: I like watching a simple face off between 2 characters who rely own skill rather than Robots doing the talking. Yea 'cus the skill and experience is always a non-factor in mecha combat Yea everytime a veteran ace pilots beats a rookie who has a better mech, it's not 'cus of skill/experience. It's just the robots doing the talking. How about mechas that mimic the pilots movement? |
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Jan 23, 2016 5:09 AM
#198
Anticlimatic said: _Peksi said: Not exactly sure what sure what your talking about but recommend me some shows that YOU personally enjoyed.Anticlimatic said: _Peksi said: Hmm your very right there. i guess i missed that detail, maybe am too used to enjoying fist fights and sword fights that leave me on the edge of my seat, well my bad. XDAnticlimatic said: I like watching a simple face off between 2 characters who rely own skill rather than Robots doing the talking. Yea 'cus the skill and experience is always a non-factor in mecha combat Yea everytime a veteran ace pilots beats a rookie who has a better mech, it's not 'cus of skill/experience. It's just the robots doing the talking. How about mechas that mimic the pilots movement? Well you could try G Gundam, just don't try to take it too seriously. The whole premise is that the pilots are martial artist/fighters/assassins/marksmen etc. and the mechd mimic their moves. So it's pretty much all about how skilled the fighter/pilot is. and it's one of the most awesome/manliest anime ever. Gunbuster is another classic Super Robot series, that everyone should watch atleast once. Now if you want a more serious/"realistic" then you could try something like Gundam 08th MS team or Macross: Do You Remember Love. |
Jan 23, 2016 5:13 AM
#199
It's probably because most people don't have a weird mecha fetish. |
Jan 23, 2016 5:16 AM
#200
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