Visual Novel 'Fate/stay Night' to get New Anime Adaptation

Jul 12, 2013 7:25 PM

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Heaven's Feel finally!!

Jul 12, 2013 7:31 PM

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Shocked said:

Fai said:

Raven-san said:
Anyone has the PV for this?

EDIT: Is this it?

No that's HF opening for vita version of realta nua

the pv shown today comes out tomorrow.

Kami_no_Kage said:

Fai said:

insan3soldiern said:

Fai said:

insan3soldiern said:
Also, people that look through this thread and see all the rather passionate hatred for Heaven's Feel. In my experience with the VN community, both this route and UBW are about equally liked. However, both routes are very different from one another as to how they handle Shirou's ideal.

So, yeah, both routes are pretty divisive in opinion. Which is too bad, as I feel that the three routes of F/SN are meant to be taken as a whole. This is why I kind of wish that the entirety of the story would be adapted, especially UBW which was extremely neutered in it's adaptation.

Basically this.

Either adopt all routes or none at all.

Now, hold on. I sure as hell didn't say that. Yeah, I'd rather have an adaptation for all of the routes but, if it has to be, I'm fine with it just being HF.

But, well, let's see what they announce when the time comes.

Sorry, I am not fine with UBW route and its fanbase being majorly shafted in favor of HF.

I am not sure why HF fanbase wants it to be solely HF adaptation either considering HF alone would be impossible to comprehend.

Let me just say this: if there is just a HF adaptation made, and people who haven't played the game complain they can't understand it: abandon them.

This adaptation is for US! The VN is right there, they have their chance!

And also Beasts Lair, if they want to have a week long argument about whether prana transfer through lip contact is feasible and not poisonous.

That's still favoritism towards HF over UBW by both typemoon and ufotable and that is unacceptable. Why should HF get a full adaptation and UBW - not? I personally love UBW way more, with HF being second and fate - last, so the idea that HF gets a full on anime series adaptation, while all UBW has is freaking 1 hour "movie" made with flash that completely butchers the story material is pretty much a stab in the heart.

Not to mention it makes no sense business-wise at all - Rin and Saber are far, far, FAR more popular than Sakura. Any high quality tv show ALSO has to have hooks to get new audience - that's why F/0 sold and worked so well for ufotable. Also you have to ensure that the new audience UNDERSTANDS ON WHAT THE HELL is happening, so it simply does NOT make any sense to adapt just HF in terms of business appeal.

Either way one looks - it does not make sense to JUST adapt HF. Stuff has to sell and alienating half the fanbase while taking away the chance to attract NEW fanbase just makes no sense.

That's like if Type Moon suddenly remade FSN VN and decided "oh well, we will just do HF and fate routes this time oh and at the same time we will cut out every second line of dialogue from both~"

I don't think anyone is arguing against you that a full revamp and adaptation of Fate/Stay Night would be bad or unwanted. I'm assuming that anyone who's excited for Heaven's Feel would want -at least- Heaven's Feel to be animated, and a revamp of the first two routes would just be extra awesome. It's not "let's have an animated HF for only us HF fans and have everyone else piss off," it's "let's have an animated HF at least, and grab anything else that we can get our hands on."

Best case scenario, we get the whole thing. Worst case scenario, at least have an animated HF. Something like that.

Yeah, this pretty much how I see it. Of course I'd rather have it all, but I'll take what I can get.

About Rin, I've noticed some comments about how HF focuses on Sakura and not on the two more popular characters Rin and Saber. The thing is that Rin, at least, gets a lot of focus in Heaven's Feel and her characterization there is actually a large part of why she's my favorite Fate/ character.

"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Jul 12, 2013 7:33 PM

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insan3soldiern said:

Shocked said:

Fai said:

Raven-san said:
Anyone has the PV for this?

EDIT: Is this it?

No that's HF opening for vita version of realta nua

the pv shown today comes out tomorrow.

Kami_no_Kage said:

Fai said:

insan3soldiern said:

Fai said:

insan3soldiern said:
Also, people that look through this thread and see all the rather passionate hatred for Heaven's Feel. In my experience with the VN community, both this route and UBW are about equally liked. However, both routes are very different from one another as to how they handle Shirou's ideal.

So, yeah, both routes are pretty divisive in opinion. Which is too bad, as I feel that the three routes of F/SN are meant to be taken as a whole. This is why I kind of wish that the entirety of the story would be adapted, especially UBW which was extremely neutered in it's adaptation.

Basically this.

Either adopt all routes or none at all.

Now, hold on. I sure as hell didn't say that. Yeah, I'd rather have an adaptation for all of the routes but, if it has to be, I'm fine with it just being HF.

But, well, let's see what they announce when the time comes.

Sorry, I am not fine with UBW route and its fanbase being majorly shafted in favor of HF.

I am not sure why HF fanbase wants it to be solely HF adaptation either considering HF alone would be impossible to comprehend.

Let me just say this: if there is just a HF adaptation made, and people who haven't played the game complain they can't understand it: abandon them.

This adaptation is for US! The VN is right there, they have their chance!

And also Beasts Lair, if they want to have a week long argument about whether prana transfer through lip contact is feasible and not poisonous.

That's still favoritism towards HF over UBW by both typemoon and ufotable and that is unacceptable. Why should HF get a full adaptation and UBW - not? I personally love UBW way more, with HF being second and fate - last, so the idea that HF gets a full on anime series adaptation, while all UBW has is freaking 1 hour "movie" made with flash that completely butchers the story material is pretty much a stab in the heart.

Not to mention it makes no sense business-wise at all - Rin and Saber are far, far, FAR more popular than Sakura. Any high quality tv show ALSO has to have hooks to get new audience - that's why F/0 sold and worked so well for ufotable. Also you have to ensure that the new audience UNDERSTANDS ON WHAT THE HELL is happening, so it simply does NOT make any sense to adapt just HF in terms of business appeal.

Either way one looks - it does not make sense to JUST adapt HF. Stuff has to sell and alienating half the fanbase while taking away the chance to attract NEW fanbase just makes no sense.

That's like if Type Moon suddenly remade FSN VN and decided "oh well, we will just do HF and fate routes this time oh and at the same time we will cut out every second line of dialogue from both~"

I don't think anyone is arguing against you that a full revamp and adaptation of Fate/Stay Night would be bad or unwanted. I'm assuming that anyone who's excited for Heaven's Feel would want -at least- Heaven's Feel to be animated, and a revamp of the first two routes would just be extra awesome. It's not "let's have an animated HF for only us HF fans and have everyone else piss off," it's "let's have an animated HF at least, and grab anything else that we can get our hands on."

Best case scenario, we get the whole thing. Worst case scenario, at least have an animated HF. Something like that.

Yeah, this pretty much how I see it. Of course I'd rather have it all, but I'll take what I can get.

About Rin, I've noticed some comments about how HF focuses on Sakura and not on the two more popular characters Rin and Saber. The thing is that Rin, at least, gets a lot of focus in Heaven's Feel and her characterization there is actually a large part of why she's my favorite Fate/ character.

Saber role was different, but still big.

Jul 12, 2013 7:39 PM

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I've only watched Fate/Stay Night and haven't watched Fate/Zero...If I watch this new one before watching Fate/Zero, will I understand it or should I watch Fate/Zero first?

Jul 12, 2013 7:46 PM

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i can die peacefully now....

Jul 12, 2013 7:49 PM

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Tennouji_ said:
and the remake of Tsukihime anime.

How you remake what doesn't exist?

Jul 12, 2013 7:51 PM

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krisalice85 said:
I've only watched Fate/Stay Night and haven't watched Fate/Zero...If I watch this new one before watching Fate/Zero, will I understand it or should I watch Fate/Zero first?

Fate/zero is the prequel of FSN so you don't need to watch Fate/Zero to understand the new one. However, the art direction will be different since this new project will be done by Ufotable, which did Fate/Zero, instead of Studio Deen. So I guess there is value from watching Fate/Zero for FSN fans, besides that it is a great anime.

Jul 12, 2013 7:57 PM

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Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel
Please be Heaven's Feel

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Jul 12, 2013 7:57 PM

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SaberRitsu said:

Tennouji_ said:
and the remake of Tsukihime anime.

How you remake what doesn't exist?

Oh my bad. I regret using the word "remake".

Jul 12, 2013 7:59 PM

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Tennouji_ said:

SaberRitsu said:

Tennouji_ said:
and the remake of Tsukihime anime.

How you remake what doesn't exist?

Oh my bad. I regret using the word "remake".

lol. Tsukihime needs some justice done for the VN.

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Jul 12, 2013 8:00 PM

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Meruru_Arls said:

Tennouji_ said:

SaberRitsu said:

Tennouji_ said:
and the remake of Tsukihime anime.

How you remake what doesn't exist?

Oh my bad. I regret using the word "remake".

lol. Tsukihime needs some justice done for the VN.

I don't think a Tsukihime remake (yes, I fucking said it) will happen until the visual novel is remade.

"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Jul 12, 2013 8:44 PM

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are they going to animate the ture end in realtaa nua patch where saber and emiya meets in avalon?

i would die to see that

Jul 12, 2013 8:46 PM

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Jul 12, 2013 8:49 PM

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Shih said:
Heaven's Feel now?!

same here.

Jul 12, 2013 8:59 PM

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Holy shit! Yes! I really hope it's Heaven's Feel because it's my favorite route, but I wouldn't be mad if they decided to remake Fate or UBW.

If they do adapt HF though...I just hope they somehow condense those kitchen scenes so they can take less time. I mean for the love of god there are just SO MANY of them. Only real problem I had with the route was the pacing of the latter days where they do practically nothing before the climax, so I hope ufotable does something about that.

I'm actually cheering for them to improve upon the original source rather than do a straight up adaptation. I wouldn't complain if they somehow extended Gil's role in the story and implemented Sparks Liner High into the fight against

Jul 12, 2013 9:02 PM

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Well dat escalated quickly

Jul 12, 2013 9:10 PM

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A good choice by them. Fans have been demanding it so might as well make it now instead of using it as back up cash in the future.

Jul 12, 2013 9:11 PM

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012yArthur0 said:

insan3soldiern said:

Shocked said:

Fai said:

Raven-san said:
Anyone has the PV for this?

EDIT: Is this it?

No that's HF opening for vita version of realta nua

the pv shown today comes out tomorrow.

Kami_no_Kage said:

Fai said:

insan3soldiern said:

Fai said:

insan3soldiern said:
Also, people that look through this thread and see all the rather passionate hatred for Heaven's Feel. In my experience with the VN community, both this route and UBW are about equally liked. However, both routes are very different from one another as to how they handle Shirou's ideal.

So, yeah, both routes are pretty divisive in opinion. Which is too bad, as I feel that the three routes of F/SN are meant to be taken as a whole. This is why I kind of wish that the entirety of the story would be adapted, especially UBW which was extremely neutered in it's adaptation.

Basically this.

Either adopt all routes or none at all.

Now, hold on. I sure as hell didn't say that. Yeah, I'd rather have an adaptation for all of the routes but, if it has to be, I'm fine with it just being HF.

But, well, let's see what they announce when the time comes.

Sorry, I am not fine with UBW route and its fanbase being majorly shafted in favor of HF.

I am not sure why HF fanbase wants it to be solely HF adaptation either considering HF alone would be impossible to comprehend.

Let me just say this: if there is just a HF adaptation made, and people who haven't played the game complain they can't understand it: abandon them.

This adaptation is for US! The VN is right there, they have their chance!

And also Beasts Lair, if they want to have a week long argument about whether prana transfer through lip contact is feasible and not poisonous.

That's still favoritism towards HF over UBW by both typemoon and ufotable and that is unacceptable. Why should HF get a full adaptation and UBW - not? I personally love UBW way more, with HF being second and fate - last, so the idea that HF gets a full on anime series adaptation, while all UBW has is freaking 1 hour "movie" made with flash that completely butchers the story material is pretty much a stab in the heart.

Not to mention it makes no sense business-wise at all - Rin and Saber are far, far, FAR more popular than Sakura. Any high quality tv show ALSO has to have hooks to get new audience - that's why F/0 sold and worked so well for ufotable. Also you have to ensure that the new audience UNDERSTANDS ON WHAT THE HELL is happening, so it simply does NOT make any sense to adapt just HF in terms of business appeal.

Either way one looks - it does not make sense to JUST adapt HF. Stuff has to sell and alienating half the fanbase while taking away the chance to attract NEW fanbase just makes no sense.

That's like if Type Moon suddenly remade FSN VN and decided "oh well, we will just do HF and fate routes this time oh and at the same time we will cut out every second line of dialogue from both~"

I don't think anyone is arguing against you that a full revamp and adaptation of Fate/Stay Night would be bad or unwanted. I'm assuming that anyone who's excited for Heaven's Feel would want -at least- Heaven's Feel to be animated, and a revamp of the first two routes would just be extra awesome. It's not "let's have an animated HF for only us HF fans and have everyone else piss off," it's "let's have an animated HF at least, and grab anything else that we can get our hands on."

Best case scenario, we get the whole thing. Worst case scenario, at least have an animated HF. Something like that.

Yeah, this pretty much how I see it. Of course I'd rather have it all, but I'll take what I can get.

About Rin, I've noticed some comments about how HF focuses on Sakura and not on the two more popular characters Rin and Saber. The thing is that Rin, at least, gets a lot of focus in Heaven's Feel and her characterization there is actually a large part of why she's my favorite Fate/ character.

Saber role was different, but still big.

Also, Rin does have a huge part in HF. Especially her edgey relationship with Sakura.

But yeah Saber..

bobynJul 12, 2013 9:16 PM

Jul 12, 2013 9:19 PM

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Dreams DO come true!

Jul 12, 2013 9:35 PM

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Jul 12, 2013 9:39 PM

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Will watch. Never got around to watch the 1st one.

Jul 12, 2013 10:16 PM

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Another Fate animation :O

Can't wait :D

Jul 12, 2013 10:16 PM

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Does this means that again shirou will be the main character again.I would like that.Loved fate stay night more than fate zero.

Jul 12, 2013 10:20 PM

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Woooooo!

Jul 12, 2013 10:21 PM

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ijen said:
Does this means that again shirou will be the main character again.I would like that.Loved fate stay night more than fate zero.

Yeah, Shirou is the protagonist of all of Fate/stay night.

Hopefully Ufotable can handle his characterization in a better way, one of the things Deen kind of failed at was giving context to his actions.

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Jul 12, 2013 10:30 PM

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FSN + ufotable sounds amazing, but don't let it be a movie, please.
A 30+ episode Heaven's Feel Adaption and I can die a happy death.

Jul 12, 2013 10:34 PM

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*prays for a HF adaption*!!

Honestly though, I'm just excited for another Fate x ufotable collaboration...I don't cate if it's a remake or not...but, hey, making a Heaven's Feel adaption wouldn't be so bad at all... ;P

☆★☆

Jul 12, 2013 11:19 PM

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Saber <3

Jul 12, 2013 11:33 PM

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yeah finally
have been waiting for f/sn remake

Jul 12, 2013 11:35 PM

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Really looking forward to this, especially if Heavens Feel!

Jul 12, 2013 11:55 PM

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No thanks. Why not Fate/Prototype?!! WHY NOT SOMETHING NEW

Jul 13, 2013 12:22 AM

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Fate/Prototype or Fate/Hollow Ataraxia would be nice after the adaptation for Heaven's Feel.

Jul 13, 2013 1:04 AM

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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YESSSSSS! Wow I never actually thought I would see the day when this would happen, and with ufotable manning the helm I have high hopes that this is going to be fantastic.

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Jul 13, 2013 1:44 AM

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Beaver897 said:

Progeusz said:
I developed a habit of using Fateverse to avoid confusion, many Tsukihime fans like butting in to discussions which are clearly about Fate. Can't really blame them, Fate is definitely more popular and gets much more talk, it's only natural to remind people of other part of Nasuverse, especially since it's older one.
But yeah, no reason to not use Nasuverse here.

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Exactly.

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Jul 13, 2013 2:29 AM

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Any idea when we'll hear more news about this?

Jul 13, 2013 2:30 AM

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More saber is always a good news, at lesst i hope she appears

Jul 13, 2013 2:35 AM

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Pretty cool, wil watch for sure.

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Jul 13, 2013 2:50 AM

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So the dude who claimed its "heavens feel" on twitter took back his/her words and is saying that its not clear.

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Any idea when we'll hear more news about this?

PV on 13th, so within next 24 hours,

Jul 13, 2013 3:14 AM

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At this point, I'm hoping they're making something completely new, new "route".

Jul 13, 2013 3:24 AM

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Great. Leave it to ufotable to do a masterpiece adaption. Fuck DEEN.

Jul 13, 2013 3:27 AM

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i hope this wont be a crappy version like the first one

Jul 13, 2013 3:42 AM

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CurrentUsername said:
At this point, I'm hoping they're making something completely new, new "route".

It wouldn't be adaptation then...

I'd love to see Ilya route but it's unrealistic.

Jul 13, 2013 3:56 AM

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I'm curious. Did Studio Deen write the story of FSN? Were they responsible for the development of of the FSN characters? Were they instrumental in making the plot changes and truncations?

Or did they just make the animation?

So much Studio Deen hate is justified IF they wrote the story. Otherwise, it's lame to blame them for how FSN turned out (barring the 'quality' animation).

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Jul 13, 2013 3:59 AM

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Do not want.

Jul 13, 2013 4:06 AM

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TsukikageRan said:
I'm curious. Did Studio Deen write the story of FSN? Were they responsible for the development of of the FSN characters? Were they instrumental in making the plot changes and truncations?

Or did they just make the animation?

So much Studio Deen hate is justified IF they wrote the story. Otherwise, it's lame to blame them for how FSN turned out (barring the 'quality' animation).

They butchered the story.

Jul 13, 2013 4:09 AM

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They made a crappy anime. That's why.

Ilya route is unlikely, that's if people wants to see a lolicon Shirou *laughs* (though she is technically older or the same age as him.)

Jul 13, 2013 4:13 AM

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TsukikageRan said:
I'm curious. Did Studio Deen write the story of FSN? Were they responsible for the development of of the FSN characters? Were they instrumental in making the plot changes and truncations?

Or did they just make the animation?

So much Studio Deen hate is justified IF they wrote the story. Otherwise, it's lame to blame them for how FSN turned out (barring the 'quality' animation).

I understand how you feel but it's useless. People give Deen a hard time because they take on things that people really want to see and most studios don't even dare to take up. However the don't have the resources to fulfill the unrealistic expectations of the fanbase. The most complaints I hear about the Deen adaption is about the CG dragon, Shiros wrong characterization and merging the routes. The CG dragon complaint I find hilarious because it suggests that people thought that was more ridiclous that the actual event in the VN. Which can be surmised as "Saber, let me fill you with my mana!" On the whole I peg the anime adaption as decent. Even after reading the visual novel.

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Jul 13, 2013 4:15 AM

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I will watch, though I am a huge Rin fan and not really one of sakura.

Jul 13, 2013 4:29 AM

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Venneria said:
I will watch, though I am a huge Rin fan and not really one of sakura.

Its okay, the best girl still remains the lead in HF route, even. Sakura, even in her own route is nothing more than a plot device.

TsukikageRan said:
I'm curious. Did Studio Deen write the story of FSN? Were they responsible for the development of of the FSN characters? Were they instrumental in making the plot changes and truncations?

Or did they just make the animation?

So much Studio Deen hate is justified IF they wrote the story. Otherwise, it's lame to blame them for how FSN turned out (barring the 'quality' animation).

Considering they also butchered Umineko and Higurashi, i'd say its very safe to blame DEEN for it.

Jul 13, 2013 4:35 AM

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Fai said:

Considering they also butchered Umineko and Higurashi, i'd say its very safe to blame DEEN for it.

Higurashi wasn't butchered and Umineko was unadaptable from the get go. Anyone who read Umineko should have known that.

Also why all the hate on Sakura? Hell, shes the only one who's good in bed.

AidanAK47Jul 13, 2013 4:39 AM

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