AbovePsycho said: I never said Assad was the ideal ruler. Maybe you should read everything I wrote before making a comment. As if I don't know the things Assad has done to Syria in the past, and has been doing now. My grandfather worked with the regime during hafez al assad is time. So I have my close ties on what's happening in Syria, but again, go read what I previously wrote, I don't like repeating myself. :) Your the same as the people who say Saddam was a good leader. Bashar is trash and his shia dogs are pieces of shits. Fuck the shia and fuck Bashar. |
ibrahim2712 said: AbovePsycho said: I never said Assad was the ideal ruler. Maybe you should read everything I wrote before making a comment. As if I don't know the things Assad has done to Syria in the past, and has been doing now. My grandfather worked with the regime during hafez al assad is time. So I have my close ties on what's happening in Syria, but again, go read what I previously wrote, I don't like repeating myself. :) Your the same as the people who say Saddam was a good leader. Bashar is trash and his shia dogs are pieces of shits. Fuck the shia and fuck Bashar. And there we have the source of all of this. Genocide is wrong unless its my people doing the killing. Saddam was a Asshole, but at least morality rates and birth defects weren't hitting around 50% and the country didn't have a nice quite three faction civilwar going on. But like you said, Fuck the Shia. Have fun with the ethnic cleansing, just sell oil at a discount and pay lib service to NATO and it will all be smooth sailing. The Serbs...or rather the serbs that used to live in large sections of Bosnia learned that the hard way after the so called "peace". Also another part of why Bashar and the Main reason this is happening is his nation is the only one minus Lebabon not part of Nato's lovely little Meditarian Dialouge, and hosts the only Russian base in the area. If you think the wst gives a shit about the rights of the arabs. Rise up, win, then make deals that anger the west and see how long till "Democracy" returns in the form of a B-52 Bomber Wing. Mute point as the Syrian Army is now as I mentioned Earlier winning with the support of its allies. Only the north will be a ongoing problem. And thats as the Kurds want their own state. |
RedArmyShogunMay 19, 2013 9:28 AM
RedArmyShogun said: And there we have the source of all of this. Genocide is wrong unless its my people doing the killing. Saddam was a Asshole, but at least morality rates and birth defects weren't hitting around 50% and the country didn't have a nice quite three faction civilwar going on. But like you said, Fuck the Shia. Have fun with the ethnic cleansing, just sale oil at a discount and pay lib service to NATO and it will all be smooth sailing. The Serbs...or rather the serbs that used to live in large sections of Bosnia learned that the hard way after the so called "peace". Please don't speak about Saddam like you know all the facts. Saddam was a evil piece of shit. He killed so many of my family members including my brother. Fuck him and his army, and Bashar is the same. Fuck Bashar and his army. |
| Emotions make a poor choice of governance. But really can you honestly say Iraq is better off today than not? Power STILL has not reached some areas, the Kurds, Sunnis, and Shias all are trying to blow each other up, and the Shia's are in control at present. Infant Morality rates are at 30%, birth Defects at 50% Nearly 110-670k people have died depending on the source. And by chance did your family engage in rebelous actions? I mean if you play with fire, you will get burned. I'm not defending either leader I'm defending the concept of a FUNCTIONING STATE. Over a broken down anarchist shit hole. And the way lines were drawn in the sand by the European powers has left a number of people who hold onto grudges from the Middle Ages in the same state. Only brute force can keep the peace. Tyrants come and go and at best only last as long as a human can live. A Broken State can go hundreds of years before it even can recover, and some never do to a full extent. Also I find it funny you don't mention your own pro genocidal threats. You speak highly of your brother and family. The Rebels like the Syrian Government has killed civilians, the rebles have killed Prioners of War Repeatidly. These men had familys, lovers, children, and those they loved, yet those loses do not matter? Its pretty clear in this context who needs to get fucked if you can't see this. A Diplomatic sollution is needed to this mess, but say what you will, at least Bashar bothers to take POW's in accordance with International Law. |
| Oh shut the fuck up. Your so quick to talk like you know the solution to everything. And not everyone who died was part of the revolution motherfucker, "I mean if you play with fire, you get burned." Motherfucker, how the fuck are you going to say something so stupid, people fight in a uprising the protect their people, do not act like you know the situation you don't know shit about what happen in Iraq. Faggots like you need to shut your mouth your ALL TALK sitting on your ass trying to tell me what happen in my country. |
 As far as I'm concerned the whole region needs the same Solution as was done to Grozny.  |
RedArmyShogunMay 19, 2013 11:12 AM
| I'm about to destroy all your arguments with this video. |
ibrahim2712 said: I'm about to destroy all your arguments with this video. |
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| Not watching a hour long movie. |
| How about Links to non-Western news press that have been keeping track of the so called "Free Syrian Army" antics? Or like the above video is that too long and not fitting the narative you support? This is why I don't bother most of the time posting sources, all I say can be found if one wants to search, and if one doesn't want to believe a story but in one way, why waste my time? It is like the story of red ridinghood. Inthe Original she dies, and the hunter kills the wolf in retaliation. For example right now I am reading a News piece titled "Damascus has evidence that Syrian militants used chemical weapons, Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi said in an interview with Russian television on Sunday." Being its being told to the Russians, and by Syria's own political ministry it would be dismissed out of hand, even though there are third party sources that confirm the use of chemical artillery shells being used by the FSA. The Same shells were also used in IED production against US forces in Iraq. There is no one truth in one thing, for example the Free Syria army might be the western "face" of it, but the bulk of fighters have been flocking over to the banner of Jabhat al-Nusra . If the name is not a hint it is a Islamist extremist Group. Even Wikipedia has unkind things to say about the FSA, who in any case has now had one of its major supply lines smashed. I don't recall ever saying the Syrian Army and the Bashar Regime is innocent, but if you think these so called rebels won't carry out reprisales anymore than those in Libya (Who news reports no longer want to focus on the failure ofthe west) then you are a very well controlled puppet. I Just don't want to see one at best Musolini, replaced with 20 guys who likely will turn one of the most progressive states in the region into the next Lebanon. Also the Syrian Army has retaken a number of towns in its path. So far there have been no reprisals, no mass killings, and likely there will not be. Can the Same be said of Mr Heart Eater and those in his ranks? Even if they don't support it, they have done nothing to stop, or arrest him. You can say how you hate something, but when you don't lift a finger to stop it, it shows ones true colors and reach of power. Assad is a asshole yes, and he put down so called protestors. But did not the Yemans, Saudis, and Jordanians do the same? Where is the call for intervention there? |
| Here's where your bullshitting, I don't believe Bashar has captured a number of towns without mass killings. Every thing points towards the exact opposite of that. You can ramble all you want about how the FSA is terrible. Yes they do some bad things and some of them have bad intentions, but you fail to consider the majority of the rebels are Syrian youth. Here are some facts for you. Bashar's army has been known to force people to say "Bashar is God" before they kill them. That may not seem like a big deal to you but that's a huge ass insult. Bashar's army has slaughtered children and women, and there are videos to prove it. That's where the line is drawn. One of the many reason I think the Syrian army is scum because its alot like the case with Saddam. There were always those people saying "he's a good leader" and "he kept Iraq in check" but that's because they were not on the side getting killed, because if they were there entire thought process would've changed, and those motherfuckers are hypocrites. I'm not a hypocrite, so I'm not gonna sit here and say that Bashar is a good leader, he's scum and his army is dogs. |
| I can find news reports from multiple sources for my claims. Can you? |
| I can but every time I do you say its propaganda or bullshit. |
Missis said: ibrahim2712 said: One of the many reason I think the Syrian army is scum because its alot like the case with Saddam. There were always those people saying "he's a good leader" and "he kept Iraq in check" but that's because they were not on the side getting killed, because if they were there entire thought process would've changed, and those motherfuckers are hypocrites. I'm not a hypocrite, so I'm not gonna sit here and say that Bashar is a good leader, he's scum and his army is dogs. You are KURD! You are Kurds from IRAQ.. Please do not say you are from Kurdistan because there is no such country in the REAL world map and that explains why you hate Saddam and the Syrian people/army. It is because we have forbidden you to have your own country by trying to steal our country! Please do not talk more crap about Saddam because he was a good leader for the Iraqi people and who made sure that no one dare to do terrorist attack he even made sure that we Shia and Sunni stood side by side. But you Kurds!! You have ants inside your asses and can't not shutup, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN! No need to reply.... I already left this forum. I only had this to say to you! Good leader? wtf? That piece of shit gassed his own people, provoked two wars with the US, and committed mass genocide for his evil desires. I am glad Saddam got lynched, he deserved every second of suffering, hope he is in hell right now. |
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| I don't want to live forever. |
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| lol. Waiting for Karma to strike. |
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| Reminds me of skyrim lol... |
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| Regardless of which side you're on, this is a horrific atrocity. Way to go, Islamist rebels. |
| "The more inexperienced you are, the more you want to show off." - Oreki, Hyouka |
| Poor bastard, his imaginary friend didn't provide him with golden pastures and 72 virgins, and he had to eat his own friend to survive. |
| "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream!" - George W. Bush |
| The soldier was already dead. Who the fuck cares? If he was going to be buried anyways, at least let the man have some nutrition. |
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Zinedine said: The only available facts out now are the following: Both the FSA and Assad's forces have killed over 40,000 people on the opposite side. In fact it it might even be possible that Assad has lost more troops than the FSA so anyone claiming it is a one sided slaughter is sorely mistaken. Both are involved in major human rights violations. Btw, people are right about Saddam keeping Iraq in check. - After the US invasion sectarian violence was at it's worst. Prior to the invasion it was actually quite low. -Not to mention Iraq has one of the worst corruption index's right now. -The highest number of refugee's after the US invaded. -I'm sure your aware of the oil for food program and the uranium bombings leading to major birth defects. -A weakened state and highest number of terrorist attacks after Saddam removed. -Many safe gaurds removed and there are still major human rights violations. AKA Abu Ghraib prison and other scandals. -Oil exploitation and the collapse of the currency. Saddam sucked big time, but he was certainly better than what Iraq is now. Assad's crappy government is pretty much the only thing preventing Syria from breaking apart especially since Israel, Turkey, and groups like Mujahideen/Hezbollah are getting involved. That isn't even mentioning the various Syrian tribes that would likely vie for power if Assad is removed. Like Saddam, Assad sucks but he is the only thing holding the country together. The US/NATO should not involve themselves. If the rebels do win at least they can make the government the way they want it and if Assad wins at least the country is likely to continue to survive. May I ask what your opinion is on intervention? If Assad gets into power the dude will be slaughtering by the masses. That's a disaster i don't want to think about. The Hezbollah are just as stupid as the Al-Qaeda. The biggest problem in the middle east is extremist terrorist groups, they are cowards who target innocent people because they get a boner out of killing. If rebels win and they manage to set up a good form of government like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc. Then the people will find peace. I do get what u mean that it sucks that the only leaders capable of controlling the country are heartless motherfuckers who kill there own people. But a new leader should rise up. Terrorists are keeping Middle East from developing, and btw Bashar and Saddam = Terrorists. Al Qaeda = terrorist and Hezbollah = terrorists the only hope i have is for actual rebels to come out on top of this war. |
| I think that NATO/US should get involved in it. To bring some stability. Most Kurds liked the US invasion because of 1 thing, Saddam's capture. I still remember when he got hung it was like the happiest day of our lives lol. I understand why the extremist groups were created, but I cannot understand why they kill innocents. They are literally going against the Quran and every Muslim can prove just how much they are going against it. Your not allowed to kill even 1 person unjustly (only self defense) it is a big big sin yet they still do it and claim there Muslim. I'll tell you that majority of the 2 billion Muslims fucking hate Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. I'm also only 16 so i'm not that knowledgeable in politics Also, this is the only problem i have with U.S. getting involved |
Young_KurdJun 20, 2013 11:51 PM
Zinedine said: I actually kind of expected that Kurds supported the invasion. Especially with the whole Iran-Iraq war and gassing thing. Most Iraqi's I've spoken to and family members I've got in the Middle East hated the invasion in contrast. They claim that to be part of Islam to gain support or at least sympathy. The reason they kill is to try to control the region. Most members in their groups are more uneducated so it's easier to distort Islam to fit their political agenda. To be fair though, some can be argued to fight in self-defense like Hizbollah originally (though sometimes that isn't the case). I'm aware. I haven't spoken to a Muslim who likes Al-Qaeda. Hizbollah has gotten me mixed responses. Try talking to someone from Lebanon about them, it's either love-hate. I just wanted to get your opinion on this. I haven't spoken to many Kurds. Yea good talk no doubt |
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