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Apr 20, 2013 1:07 PM
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ninearts said:
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i see. plenty of time to catch up then i suppose. guess i'll have to put up with index for another 24 episodes but it'll be well worth it. but hey, how often do the railgun characters appear in the 2nd season anyways? or better yet, what about accelerator? he was prolly my favorite index character.

EDIT: Uiharu's appearance is almost on cameo level. (Somehow I was forgetting a relevant arc)

About Accelerator
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Ajunky said:


About Accelerator


In response to everyone else I didn't quote, Uiharu is a boos. She's the
which makes her a boss. Also, like we said,
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As to Accelerator, I think that he becomes a much much much much better character soon, not that he isn't already a great character. In fact in terms of Index characters I put Misaka, Touma #1 Accelerator and Shiage #2 , Crowley #3 and then other characters. Well... not exactly true, but I don't wanna to spoil any characters not in Railgun or Index anime yet.
CreationBreaker said:

Let's see. This episode covered only one chapter: Chapter 18.
And based on the preview, Episode 3 will cover Chapter 19 only. As such, it may be safe to say that they are covering a chapter per episode. Based on the fact that there 21 chapters in this arc and that the fight scene episodes may be cut down, I estimate that this arc may span over a good 16-17 episodes.


Based on the episode description and preview I actually think it could cover chapters 19 and 20. Maybe they were just starting slowly. They didn't want to throw in too much and stop at an awkward point. When the story picks up, it has its own fuel. Maybe they just wanted to add in the mention about the SS which is why it took longer than usual. It was also important to show
right?

But if so, I would like it if they do what you are saying because they will have good filler. I just hope they don't go crazy on filler and it affects the emotions of what the characters will be feeling.
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Pretty good episode.
Too bad this is only PG13
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That last part was thrilling
Apr 20, 2013 3:26 PM

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ehhh. shouldve made index 3.
need more misaka or touma.
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ahh i see. great news then. love accelerator, thats my dude.. definitely another reason to watch seasons 2 and 3. only down side now is that damn blue haired nun. well, who knows. maybe she's developed past the "touma i'm hungry!" phase so i'll give her another shot.

but that aside, it sure is genius that they have 2 ongoing franchises out at the same time from the same little universe. you'd think other studios would try the same thing.

but back to the railgun series: for the people who read the light novels? how far, time wise, novels ahead of the anime? is MIsaka in like highschool or someshit?
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I can't really understand people hating on Uiharu. I mean, well, she may not be a battle-type character who blows stuff up. Some might see her as rather unnecessary. But why all the hate?

Also, non-VN readers might not know but Uiharu is actually
Apr 20, 2013 4:10 PM

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ninearts said:


but back to the railgun series: for the people who read the light novels? how far, time wise, novels ahead of the anime? is MIsaka in like highschool or someshit?


The Index novels are in mid-November right now. Railgun S is in mid-August. Railgun's manga is in mid-September.

dniv said:

CreationBreaker said:

Let's see. This episode covered only one chapter: Chapter 18.
And based on the preview, Episode 3 will cover Chapter 19 only. As such, it may be safe to say that they are covering a chapter per episode. Based on the fact that there 21 chapters in this arc and that the fight scene episodes may be cut down, I estimate that this arc may span over a good 16-17 episodes.


Based on the episode description and preview I actually think it could cover chapters 19 and 20. Maybe they were just starting slowly. They didn't want to throw in too much and stop at an awkward point. When the story picks up, it has its own fuel. Maybe they just wanted to add in the mention about the SS which is why it took longer than usual. It was also important to show
right?

But if so, I would like it if they do what you are saying because they will have good filler. I just hope they don't go crazy on filler and it affects the emotions of what the characters will be feeling.


I looked through the preview and I saw no evidence that Chapter 20 would be covered in the next episode. All of the scenes in it were from Chapter 19 and the bear hugging scene was in neither, Most likely that bear hug with Kuroko is just going to be filler while Mikoto is infiltrating the facility.

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I can't really understand people hating on Uiharu. I mean, well, she may not be a battle-type character who blows stuff up. Some might see her as rather unnecessary. But why all the hate?

Also, non-VN readers might not know but Uiharu is actually


Ditto to that. She also

That was also. I really cannot understand why people actually hate her.
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Naoki-Saten said:
I can't really understand people hating on Uiharu. I mean, well, she may not be a battle-type character who blows stuff up. Some might see her as rather unnecessary. But why all the hate?

Also, non-VN readers might not know but Uiharu is actually
You're playing to many VN. It was LN not VN. And Uiharu is top 10 programer in Academy City.
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I love the ED, it really gets across the sweetness yet the foreboding at the same time of this arc. The characters seem to be being treated a lot more properly this season too. Aside gushing over how perfect Biribiri is (especially with the changes from season 1 to now in terms of how they are making her be and how Rina Satou is voicing her), the rest of the cast got a big upgrade too. I didn't really notice it so much in the previous episode, but looking at both Kuroko has really gotten a shit ton better about controlling herself. I like that instead of molesting Mikoto in her sleep she's just holding her sweetly.

I feel like they are doing a good job of adapting the content again like with season 1. I didn't notice anything cut out but I felt like there was a lot extra, and that's what I was hoping for, so I'm even happier with this season than I was last week.

I wrote my weekly Railgun post on my blog as well; *HERE*. (Sorry if it seems a little off this time, I ended up writing a lot about some spoilers from later on and realized it after almost finishing; I don't want to give spoilers so I cut them all out)

Naoki-Saten said:

Also, non-VN readers might not know but Uiharu is actually


They already hinted very heavily at this in season 1 - with her easily working with several monitors (in entertainment that means COMPUTER PRO) and also being able to very easily track people and control devices, she always has her little handheld computer too. She wouldn't be given access to such high level stuff (which she is several times) like in season 1 if she wasn't extremely talented.

Skimming the thread I see a lot of hate for Uiharu from one or two people, but I don't see why. She's cute and a very useful asset to the group - she's got information on both a higher and more local level and knows how to use it on par with federal authorities. Information is extremely important. Alongside that, it keeps the show from being just overpowered characters. Kuroko, while not being amazing, is very skilled in combat, Biribiri is one of the strongest in the entire world let alone Academy City - so Saten and Uiharu give the party a good balance.
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That 'critical' ability is pretty scary, but I still don't really understand how it works. Shinobu's pretty dangerous and cold either way. I wonder what her exact history with Misaka is and why she'd hide all those money cards.

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Onyxthegreat said:
That 'critical' ability is pretty scary, but I still don't really understand how it works. Shinobu's pretty dangerous and cold either way. I wonder what her exact history with Misaka is and why she'd hide all those money cards.

It wasn't a real ability. She just drugged them using the needle taped to her hand.
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Onyxthegreat said:
That 'critical' ability is pretty scary, but I still don't really understand how it works. Shinobu's pretty dangerous and cold either way. I wonder what her exact history with Misaka is and why she'd hide all those money cards.
It's not an ability. She just use psychological trick to shock them. And if you look at OP it seem like she was scientist.
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Onyxthegreat said:
That 'critical' ability is pretty scary, but I still don't really understand how it works. Shinobu's pretty dangerous and cold either way. I wonder what her exact history with Misaka is and why she'd hide all those money cards.


The scary part is she has no ability (that we know of). The entire Critical thing was an extremely well played bluff on Shinobu's part. Combining the anasthesia she had on her hand with some well done acting and fear tactics, she was able to knock out all of those guys.

Her history and the reason behind those money cards...you'll find out next week. Just be patient...or read the manga. Either works.
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TallonKarrde23 said:
I love the ED, it really gets across the sweetness yet the foreboding at the same time of this arc. The characters seem to be being treated a lot more properly this season too. Aside gushing over how perfect Biribiri is (especially with the changes from season 1 to now in terms of how they are making her be and how Rina Satou is voicing her), the rest of the cast got a big upgrade too. I didn't really notice it so much in the previous episode, but looking at both Kuroko has really gotten a shit ton better about controlling herself. I like that instead of molesting Mikoto in her sleep she's just holding her sweetly.

I feel like they are doing a good job of adapting the content again like with season 1. I didn't notice anything cut out but I felt like there was a lot extra, and that's what I was hoping for, so I'm even happier with this season than I was last week.

I wrote my weekly Railgun post on my blog as well; *HERE*. (I repeated some of the things from the first post by mistake, but more importantly it might seem a little shorter or just a little less too it because I had to cut out a lot - I wrote a lot that involved some spoilers and I didn't want the post to include any spoilers, so I edited that all out.)

Naoki-Saten said:

Also, non-VN readers might not know but Uiharu is actually


They already hinted very heavily at this in season 1 - with her easily working with several monitors (in entertainment that means COMPUTER PRO) and also being able to very easily track people and control devices, she always has her little handheld computer too. She wouldn't be given access to such high level stuff (which she is several times) like in season 1 if she wasn't extremely talented.

Skimming the thread I see a lot of hate for Uiharu from one or two people, but I don't see why. She's cute and a very useful asset to the group - she's got information on both a higher and more local level and knows how to use it on par with federal authorities. Information is extremely important. Alongside that, it keeps the show from being just overpowered characters. Kuroko, while not being amazing, is very skilled in combat, Biribiri is one of the strongest in the entire world let alone Academy City - so Saten and Uiharu give the party a good balance.
Pretty sure that only ninearts had a problem with her,for literally no reason at all.

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Naoki-Saten said:
I can't really understand people hating on Uiharu. I mean, well, she may not be a battle-type character who blows stuff up. Some might see her as rather unnecessary. But why all the hate?

Also, non-VN readers might not know but Uiharu is actually
You're playing to many VN. It was LN not VN. And Uiharu is top 10 programer in Academy City.
Isnt Uiharu #1?She even created a


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I wouldnt call it fighting but yeah.
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Kuroko FTW
Yes....The arc has finally started.....
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TallonKarrde23 said:


Skimming the thread I see a lot of hate for Uiharu from one or two people, but I don't see why. She's cute and a very useful asset to the group - she's got information on both a higher and more local level and knows how to use it on par with federal authorities. Information is extremely important. Alongside that, it keeps the show from being just overpowered characters. Kuroko, while not being amazing, is very skilled in combat, Biribiri is one of the strongest in the entire world let alone Academy City - so Saten and Uiharu give the party a good balance.


that right there is my problem though man. i mean, just look at her:



does that face not annoy you? i mean seriously, could she not be anymore obvious? look at that little smile. look at those damn flowers in her hair bro. like c'mon man, she's too obvious. she's just way too blatant.

like, the flowers are just so ridiculous man. top that off with her entire demeanor and her voice. the way she carries herself? the fact that she's "usefull". its just overkill man, its just way too much.

it's like yo...imagine you're on a date with someone you barely know right? she orders ice cream. then she has the fucking audacity to ask for some damn sugar. and not only does she pour half a cup of sugar on her freakin' ice cream but she then has the balls to drown it in chocolate syrup.

you feel what i'm saying?
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MAL needs a block button so i dont have to skim my eyes over such retarded crap. Could you not vomit your trash all over the internet please other people are here.
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MAL needs a block button so i dont have to skim my eyes over such retarded crap. Could you not vomit your trash all over the internet please other people are here.


I think there's a user made script to filter users. I remember seeing a thread months ago in passing about it.
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TallonKarrde23 said:


Skimming the thread I see a lot of hate for Uiharu from one or two people, but I don't see why. She's cute and a very useful asset to the group - she's got information on both a higher and more local level and knows how to use it on par with federal authorities. Information is extremely important. Alongside that, it keeps the show from being just overpowered characters. Kuroko, while not being amazing, is very skilled in combat, Biribiri is one of the strongest in the entire world let alone Academy City - so Saten and Uiharu give the party a good balance.

Let me just double check what I saw.

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Biribiri is one of the strongest in the entire world let alone Academy City


Okay. I saw that correctly. Biribiri is one of the strongest in Academy City, yes. However, one of the strongest in the world? I guess someone who only watched the Mikoto-related episodes of Index and dropped it afterwards wouldn't know. Biribiri pales in comparison to a large number of characters in the Raildex-verse. You've got characters like Fiamma of the Right, Othinus, Aiwass, and Aleister who could probably one-shot her. Then there are characters like Brunhild Eiktobel who fought her evenly but was obviously holding. Hell, even her magic-side counterpart Thor could kick her ass easily. There are too few characters in Academy City for which superlatives like "one of the strongest in the world" would fit and those are Touma (debatable), Accelerator, Kakine, Aiwass, Hyouka, and Aleister.

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Ok. Now, I am almost positive that this guy is trolling. Let's just leave him be.
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TallonKarrde23 said:
Biribiri is one of the strongest in the entire world let alone Academy City


Okay. I saw that correctly. Biribiri is one of the strongest in Academy City, yes. However, one of the strongest in the world? I guess someone who only watched the Mikoto-related episodes of Index and dropped it afterwards wouldn't know. Biribiri pales in comparison to a large number of characters in the Raildex-verse. You've got characters like Fiamma of the Right, Othinus, Aiwass, and Aleister who could probably one-shot her. Then there are characters like Brunhild Eiktobel who fought her evenly but was obviously holding. Hell, even her magic-side counterpart Thor could kick her ass easily. There are too few characters in Academy City for which superlatives like "one of the strongest in the world" would fit and those are Touma (debatable), Accelerator, Kakine, Aiwass, Hyouka, and Aleister.


I never said strongest esper. She's more powerful than at least 98~99% of the human population on the entire planet, including the military and law enforcement. And yes, this is what I was originally referring to, though even if you can list off 50 others stronger - she's still more powerful than millions and millions of others even if you count only espers, so she's still one of the strongest in the world - both in terms of normal population and esper population, I mean Academy City alone has

total population is about 2.3 million with 80% of them being students and 1/8 of those students living in the city dorms. Of the entire student population, about 60% of them have the ability to demonstrate only a slight amount of psychic ability


60% of 2.3 million people are espers in Academy City ALONE, and Mikoto Misaka is stronger than pretty much that entire 60% - even if you can toss around a few HUNDRED people stronger than her. So outside of there even she's still "one of the strongest in the world". Hell, she's even MORE "one of the strongest in the world" when you include anyone outside of Academy City because you're just raising the total count of people she's compared with - and even if there's thousands of stronger people you're comparing that to what, like 8 billion people total? Having a handful more powerful, or even a few thousand, still leaves her in the very top percentage in the entire human population of the planet. Having someone stronger =/= she is not one of the strongest in the world. I very clearly said 'one of', just reminding you of that.

This is basic numbers - even if I never watched Index OR Railgun I could say this, because the fact is she is one of the strongest human beings in the entire world in the Raildex verse - no matter how many you can name that are stronger because of pure population count. Hell, the fact you CAN name them is just proof enough there are not MILLIONS or BILLIONS of people stronger than her - while in her case she is factually stronger than BILLIONS of people - putting her, factually, into the category of 'one of the strongest people in the world'. This is just like having a billion dollars does not make you nearly "the richest person in the world" (who shits all over 1 billion with almost 80 billion, if I recall - and there are a lot of people with way more than 1b) but it very much makes you "one of the richest people in the world". I know you like to tell me I don't know things because I can't stand Index, and usually I'm open to that because it's true and I'm fine being incorrect and whatever, but this isn't an issue I'm wrong about.
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The scary part is she has no ability (that we know of)...

Sorry to nitpick on your choice of words but… “the scary part”? There's no scary part. Everything about it (and her) is scary.
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TallonKarrde23 said:


I never said strongest ESPer either. You said "one of the strongest" period. Again, she is one of the strongest in Academy City.
However, not in the world. Let's just do the math. She is the .00013 percentile in Academy City (ignoring Hyouka, Aleister, and Aiwass since they aren't part of that population count). By that same percentage, let's just apply that to the rest of the world. I will round down the population to 6 bil. That means that there are at least 7825 people stronger than her. Again, let's cut that down by a factor of 5 to go against my argument a bit. That means ~1500 people in the world. Even if the percentage of people stronger than her is low, there are still a large amount of people that are stronger than her. If you think having 1500 people stronger than you makes you one of the strongest, then you need to check your definitions again.

I know that logic is a bit flawed, but I think you see what I am trying to point out. (Whether you agree is another point entirely). At the same time, let's not forget the fact that about 40% of the named characters in the series could beat her in a straight fight and the fact that the differences between Mugino and Mikoto are infinitesmal.
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TallonKarrde23 said:


I never said strongest ESPer either. You said "one of the strongest" period. Again, she is one of the strongest in Academy City.
However, not in the world. Let's just do the math. She is the .00013 percentile in Academy City (ignoring Hyouka, Aleister, and Aiwass since they aren't part of that population count). By that same percentage, let's just apply that to the rest of the world. I will round down the population to 6 bil. That means that there are at least 7825 people stronger than her. Again, let's cut that down by a factor of 5 to go against my argument a bit. That means ~1500 people in the world. Even if the percentage of people stronger than her is low, there are still a large amount of people that are stronger than her. If you think having 1500 people stronger than you makes you one of the strongest, then you need to check your definitions again.

I know that logic is a bit flawed, but I think you see what I am trying to point out. (Whether you agree is another point entirely). At the same time, let's not forget the fact that about 40% of the named characters in the series could beat her in a straight fight and the fact that the differences between Mugino and Mikoto are infinitesmal.


But the definition of "one of the strongest" would simply be "someone within the top percentage".

You're arguing semantics and arguing them incorrectly. Being weaker than 1500 people out of 6 billion is definitely "one of the strongest" - or do you not consider people with a billion dollars - or hundreds of millions - to be some of the richest people in the world? After all, there are people with over 50 billion, one billion or anything less - even 900 million or so, is average to you? "Just kinda high"? No, these are 'some of the richest people on the planet' because in comparison to the BILLIONS below them they are high and above them.

You're right - the logic is flawed in your post - as in it's fucking WRONG.

It's like this:
(Everyone) 6,000,000,000 : 1500 (Biribiri is here)

1500 out of 6,000,000,000 is not exactly a big fucking number. There's no way you can claim that's not 'one of the strongest' - if you keep claiming so you're just playing dumb to avoid admitting I'm right. I usually hate when people say shit like that - but come the fuck on, you're acting really stupid about this.

6,000,000,000.
_______1,500.

You can't say that's not the very top. Even if there was ONE MILLION PEOPLE stronger than her she'd be one of the strongest people on the planet. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of simple numbers that even I can handle understanding and I fucking blow with numbers.
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I will just concede defeat to you then.

If we were arguing "one of the strongest characters in the series", then I would have a case. However, you stated "one of the strongest people" in the Raildex world. As such, you are right.
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Good episode, that Engrish girl was pretty creepy, and yet awesome in an unique way at the end of the episode! Bucozzu...

Saten as a dog sniffing human, how shocking! Had no idea.

Kuruok's voice recording was just genius act from her, love how she trick the dorm supervisor.

Also the ED1 for this show is really sweet, as expected for this show. <3
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I will just concede defeat to you then.

If we were arguing "one of the strongest characters in the series", then I would have a case. However, you stated "one of the strongest people" in the Raildex world. As such, you are right.
Well all of the above is like saying that Yamcha is one of the strongest people on Earth in DBZ which is of course true but he is WAY far below the top.It doesnt really mean anything or proves something about her.

And unless Touma got an upgrade in his power in NT5-6,there is no way to defeat her in a fight where Mikasa is actually trying(same for the other Lvl 5s too).
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It doesnt really mean anything or proves something about her.


You can bold that all you want, it won't make it actually relevant or correct to the context we were discussing her power in, given in that context it does actually mean something - quite a bit actually. And, just for good measure, it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe. That's quite a feat, even in the real world.
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TallonKarrde23 said:
ssjokg said:
It doesnt really mean anything or proves something about her.


You can bold that all you want, it won't make it actually relevant or correct to the context we were discussing her power in, given in that context it does actually mean something - quite a bit actually. And, just for good measure, it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe. That's quite a feat, even in the real world.

And that affects her character/personality how?

She and her power hardly even matters to the masterminds of Raidex anymore.Even the Level 6 Shift project was started because they thought


We can say what you are saying for ANY strong char in any show good,average or terrible and it still wouldnt change anything about them.
In fact if the char was from a terrible show the person claiming that would be a "blind fanboy".
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In all Raildex Universe Misaka is definitely in top 100, including other level 5s and all top magicians. The list of people (and other beings) who are really more powerful than Misaka is very short

This is something like Angel Class.
All others have comparable powers.
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Debut for Nunotaba Shinobu!!!

It's progressing quite smoothly as we enter the Sister's Arc. I'm presuming some possible fillers and perhaps maybe the Daihaseisai Arc towards the second part of the series. Looking forward to seeing the next episode as it starts to get interesting!!

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ssjokg said:
TallonKarrde23 said:
ssjokg said:
It doesnt really mean anything or proves something about her.


You can bold that all you want, it won't make it actually relevant or correct to the context we were discussing her power in, given in that context it does actually mean something - quite a bit actually. And, just for good measure, it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe. That's quite a feat, even in the real world.

And that affects her character/personality how?

She and her power hardly even matters to the masterminds of Raidex anymore.Even the Level 6 Shift project was started because they thought


We can say what you are saying for ANY strong char in any show good,average or terrible and it still wouldnt change anything about them.
In fact if the char was from a terrible show the person claiming that would be a "blind fanboy".


Because the context was the balance within the Railgun core group of Mikoto, Kuroko, Uiharu, and Saten. And - the only OTHER context with that, a subcontext that got a little larger, was about her power compared to humanity as a whole. This was THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION relating to that point - nothing else whatsoever. Hell, I originally said she's that powerful IN PASSING while simply explaining why Uiharu is a good character - it was taken out of context to begin with by someone else and I was simply defending it as correct, please stop taking it even further.

You're arguing something entirely irrelevant to what either me or him were talking about. If you want to talk to yourself go ahead. Nobody was talking about her personality or her character in general. Please, for fucks sake, start READING THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE REPLYING WITH STUPID SHIT. You keep not doing that and the SAME THING HAPPENS, you just ASSUME what was being talked about and say the most irrelevant tripe and act like you're now in some argument when people tell you "but that's got nothing to do with what we were discussing". Please just stop. Either don't post at all or READ EVERY WORD THAT WAS POSTED PRIOR, make sure you understand it - re-read it if you really have to - and THEN make a post. Not because I'm "telling you to" but for everyone, including yourself.
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TallonKarrde23 said:
ssjokg said:
TallonKarrde23 said:
ssjokg said:
It doesnt really mean anything or proves something about her.


You can bold that all you want, it won't make it actually relevant or correct to the context we were discussing her power in, given in that context it does actually mean something - quite a bit actually. And, just for good measure, it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe. That's quite a feat, even in the real world.

And that affects her character/personality how?

She and her power hardly even matters to the masterminds of Raidex anymore.Even the Level 6 Shift project was started because they thought


We can say what you are saying for ANY strong char in any show good,average or terrible and it still wouldnt change anything about them.
In fact if the char was from a terrible show the person claiming that would be a "blind fanboy".


Because the context was the balance within the Railgun core group of Mikoto, Kuroko, Uiharu, and Saten. And - the only OTHER context with that, a subcontext that got a little larger, was about her power compared to humanity as a whole. This was THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION relating to that point - nothing else whatsoever.

You're arguing something entirely irrelevant to what either me or him were talking about. If you want to talk to yourself go ahead. Nobody was talking about her personality or her character in general. Please, for fucks sake, start READING THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE REPLYING WITH STUPID SHIT. You keep not doing that and the SAME THING HAPPENS, you just ASSUME what was being talked about and say the most irrelevant tripe and act like you're now in some argument when people tell you "but that's got nothing to do with what we were discussing". Please just stop. Either don't post at all or READ EVERY WORD THAT WAS POSTED PRIOR, make sure you understand it - re-read it if you really have to - and THEN make a post.

"it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe"
And?
"That's quite a feat"
99% of the Raidex chars have some power or some skill that makes them impressive.So?

Okay Mr. anger management.
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"it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe"
And?
"That's quite a feat"
99% of the Raidex chars have some power or some skill that either makes them impressiv.So?

Okay Mr. anger management.


What do you mean so? You asked a question and I gave you the answer. If you actually, for once in your goddamn life, either learned to read properly or actually spent 5 minutes reading all the posts in this chain of discussion - you'd see I mentioned very much in passing while DEFENDING UIHARU of all things that Mikoto Misaka happens to be one of the strongest characters in the Raildex world (world - as in all billions of humans living on the fucking planet).

Somebody ELSE took that out of everything I said and said i was wrong - I was simply saying it's correct.

So your so? There isn't a "so" - I was simply having a discussion with someone about one line of one post I made and you, who as usual jumped in not knowing what the fuck was going on like some kind of lost little puppy, decided to bite on in thinking you had some knowledge to smack down on somebody - and yet, again, you didn't, because that 'knowledge' was entirely irrelevant and had no bearing on the discussion at hand.

All those posts about her power were simply me and one other going back and forth because THEY brought up the fact that I was 'wrong' about her not being 'one of the strongest people in the world' in raildex.

There is no "point" or "so" aside a discussion that, hilariously enough, ended awhile ago because our little tangent on that one sentence from my post had ended. So - my posts proved my point, that she is one of the strongest people in the world. What's the point of that? Ending the discussion about her power vs HUMANITY AS A WHOLE by giving it a conclusion - NO SHIT.

If you keep talking to yourself and replying to posts I never made (in terms of the context you're reading them in) I'll just ignore you in the future. Just so you're aware.
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TallonKarrde23 said:
ssjokg said:

"it does actually prove something about her; the fact she's one of the strongest human beings alive in the raildex universe"
And?
"That's quite a feat"
99% of the Raidex chars have some power or some skill that either makes them impressiv.So?

Okay Mr. anger management.


What do you mean so? You asked a question and I gave you the answer. If you actually, for once in your goddamn life, either learned to read properly or actually spent 5 minutes reading all the posts in this chain of discussion - you'd see I mentioned very much in passing while DEFENDING UIHARU of all things that Mikoto Misaka happens to be one of the strongest characters in the Raildex world.

Somebody ELSE took that out of everything I said and said i was wrong - I was simply saying it's correct.

So your so? There isn't a "so" - I was simply having a discussion with someone about one line of one post I made and you, who as usual jumped in not knowing what the fuck was going on like some kind of lost little puppy, decided to bite on in thinking you had some knowledge to smack down on somebody - and yet, again, you didn't, because that 'knowledge' was entirely irrelevant and had no bearing on the discussion at hand.

All those posts about her power were simply me and one other going back and forth because THEY brought up the fact that I was 'wrong' about her not being 'one of the strongest people in the world' in raildex.

There is no "point" or "so" aside a discussion that, hilariously enough, ended awhile ago because our little tangent on that one sentence from my post had ended. So - my posts proved my point, that she is one of the strongest people in the world. What's the point of that? Ending the discussion by giving it a conclusion - NO SHIT.

Why are you so angry?Seriously.
You said to ME not to the other one that it shows something about her when their powers,especially esper ones, dont really show anything.

Again why do you act like somebody talked shit about your fav char?
TallonKarrde23 said:

If you keep talking to yourself and replying to posts I never made (in terms of the context you're reading them in) I'll just ignore you in the future. Just so you're aware.

Yeah you do that.If I have to reply to people that apparently say things for the sake of saying them(Misaka is one of the strongest humans in the world and that quite a feat but I dont mean anything by that") then you better ignore me.
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Damn, I was ready with all my theories regarding Shinobu's power to see them squashed away by spoilers lolz.

Funny, I watched Railgun Anime but never check out Railgun LN. For me, Index parent story is a lot more interesting than its spin-off (hoping Index 3 will come after Railgun 2).

The Ending is really sobering, which is a strong contrast with the exciting Opening. I sense that they are prepping us for difficult moments to come
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NeoAnkara said:
You're playing to many VN. It was LN not VN.


My bad, what a blunder ^^
It's not that I'm playing too many VN, I just didn't get to discuss LN until now, unlike VN which is why I ended up making a little mistake ^^
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ThangLong said:
Funny, I watched Railgun Anime but never check out Railgun LN. For me, Index parent story is a lot more interesting than its spin-off (hoping Index 3 will come after Railgun 2).
Railgun is a manga.

And more people seem to prefer Railgun more than Index(going by the comments in forums and such). I don't share the same sentiment but to each his own I guess. Both works are fine in their ways and obviously should be viewed together rather than treating them separately as they're on the same timeline.

inb4 Railgun is better than Index because Touma etc, etc...
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ThangLong said:
Funny, I watched Railgun Anime but never check out Railgun LN. For me, Index parent story is a lot more interesting than its spin-off (hoping Index 3 will come after Railgun 2).
Railgun is a manga.

And more people seem to prefer Railgun more than Index(going by the comments in forums and such). I don't share the same sentiment but to each his own I guess. Both works are fine in their ways and obviously should be viewed together rather than treating them separately as they're on the same timeline.

inb4 Railgun is better than Index because Touma etc, etc...
Well some people cant help but be biased because Index focus on Index char and Touma too instead of focusing only on Misaka.
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ssjokg said:
belatkuro said:
ThangLong said:
Funny, I watched Railgun Anime but never check out Railgun LN. For me, Index parent story is a lot more interesting than its spin-off (hoping Index 3 will come after Railgun 2).
Railgun is a manga.

And more people seem to prefer Railgun more than Index(going by the comments in forums and such). I don't share the same sentiment but to each his own I guess. Both works are fine in their ways and obviously should be viewed together rather than treating them separately as they're on the same timeline.

inb4 Railgun is better than Index because Touma etc, etc...
Well some people cant help but be biased because Index focus on Index char and Touma too instead of focusing only on Misaka.


I actually wanted to quote all three of these comments...

Why must every long forum discussion related to Railgun S devolve into bickering over whether Index or Railgun is better and what Index or Railgun is actually about.

Can't we just all conclude that we all have our own personal opinions and talk about the issues at hand for each post. Stark700 wants us to talk about this episode, that's probably what we should do. I talked way too much on episode 1 about this and feel like we should get back to discussing this. When Index 3 comes out, people will watch it and they might like it after watching railgun 2 because there should be a pretty good segue. But no one has to like it. If someone is watching railgun 1 and 2 after watching Index no on has to like it either. I love both series but that is just my own personal opinion.

I really got mad at people before because as belatkuro said: they are the same series... But now that I have way too much homework to say more, I say let's do one of two things.

1. Stop arguing about this.
or
2. Belatkuro and ssjokg will explain why Railgun and Index are good and why Light Novels are good and why the series as a whole is good. They have also read everything so you should listen to them.

I'm not really being objective right now, but whatever...

I can't wait for episode 3. If they are doing one chapter per episode, and I think they will eventually be doing 2 or 3 chapters per episode... (well maybe 2 max) for some episodes: I can't wait for the more dramatic parts later. It's way too stressful waiting for the later parts because I'm hoping they do them correctly. From now on, I'm not sure I'm going to watch the stream, the episode was much much better with subtitles.

It's fun to be able to see what is coming out exactly when it first comes out, but I think that in reality, it's much better to know everything that comes out perfectly especially since I don't speak Japanese. Mind you all: I do want to learn Japanese.

I will be learning Japanese next year because anime inspired me too. Though there is obviously more to Japanese culture than anime.

In the end, I thought that this episode actually had some pretty good suspense, especially for people who hadn't read the manga. This is why I really liked what they did, especially with letting the other few main characters think about Misaka's problem. This made it even better done. If her friends are also thinking about the rumor, it makes the problem a little larger and more interesting. I might actually prefer this version to the manga version. Well... I guess we will see. I hope they really do next episode as well as it was done in the manga. If they do this, I really will be happy.

Anyway, the ending was much better with sub-titles. Once I understood the words, I actually thought it was very well done and that it definitely suits the arc.
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ssjokg said:
YEah except that some people are way too biased to actually have a discussion with.
Also not everything.NT5-6 and two or three SS are still waiting...


Being biased in a thread SPECIFICALLY about RAILGUN S and not Index, the full franchise, or anything other than Railgun itself is kind of a given. Even if you like Index more - the thread is not about "Raildex" it's about Railgun, if you want to gush over Index (the series OR the character) you go to an Index thread or make a thread in 'anime discussion' about both. Your current posts are all off topic, as they have literally nothing to do with Railgun S episode 2, which is against the rules.
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Great episode. I think the pacing this season is really good so far and I can't wait until we start getting into the darker stuff. The sister's arc in the Railgun manga was my favorite so I can't wait to see how it all plays out.
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my prob with the Index vs. Railgun “battle” is that it seems many people like Index but not Railgun, still they watch Railgun because it's Index-related, and then they complain it's “not Index enough” eg “needs more Touma” “needs Index cameo” “needs magic” “Saten sucks” “Uiharu sucks” — seriously people, nobody is forcing you to watch it.

And to be fair there's also the people who like Railgun and not Index (ahem guilty here) and then go do the same thing when there's an Index conversation (which I don't think I'm guilty of, except I believe I said publicly that I was disappointed we were getting an Index 2 instead of Railgun 2, back then).

People have different tastes, and it's a better world because of that, IDIC, and all that jazz. Let's respect it.
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Onyxthegreat said:
That 'critical' ability is pretty scary, but I still don't really understand how it works. Shinobu's pretty dangerous and cold either way. I wonder what her exact history with Misaka is and why she'd hide all those money cards.

It wasn't a real ability. She just drugged them using the needle taped to her hand.
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It's not an ability. She just use psychological trick to shock them. And if you look at OP it seem like she was scientist.
CreationBreaker said:
The scary part is she has no ability (that we know of). The entire Critical thing was an extremely well played bluff on Shinobu's part. Combining the anasthesia she had on her hand with some well done acting and fear tactics, she was able to knock out all of those guys.

Her history and the reason behind those money cards...you'll find out next week. Just be patient...or read the manga. Either works.

Well it looks like I derped. I checked again and they did indeed show the needle. No wonder it only works when she 'touches' them.

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Outfit change! Next episode should be good.


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Don't forget.
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So... yes this is a Railgun s thread... But I was talking about the railgun S Light novel earlier? That is... railgun related. In fact, the episode referenced it? Good point we should talk about railgun: but the point is that I was just trying to say that railgun characters are cool and have some important parts in Index so people should like both. Either way, Misaka and Touma are both my favorite characters from Index (because they each have a series) so I don't think we disagree about liking Misaka at least. In the end we have to see more episodes. I want to see the next episode very badly. Actually the funimation sub had some awkward phrasing, but I will say that it corrected some errors I saw in other subs that could have been a big problem (especially for people who haven't read the manga). But it is actually a problem because it has to do with the show itself.

People should maybe look into watching the funimation subs at some point for episode two. It was nice getting the full upgraded version. However (I say this like Nunotaba), episode 2 was a nice change of pace. I think episode 3 will be even more of a shocker, I'm guessing.

@tallonkarde23, I'm not trying to be off topic. I'm just excited. I'll try to post better, but I thought that I've been relatively tame for this episode thread... If you weren't talking to me then oops... Anyway, I can't wait to see Misaka in action next episode when she confronts Shinobu!
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